Cern particle accelerator is there a connection to NSA?

>>139979871
Everything is connected to the NSA Sven Al badgadi, one way or another.

>>139980032
Any evidence?

>>139979871
>to NSA
are you retarded?

>>139980310
How the fuck are you supposed to give evidence that it's NOT connected to NSA?
You're supposed to give evidence that it IS.

Yes, the Atoms are clearly a treat to the national security

>>139979871
What makes you think there is?

>>139979871

Physicist checking in, partly also working on a CERN project. While I don't really need to visit the facility myself, I can't see how they are connected to the NSA. There is literally one area of expertise relevant that is developed at CERN which might be of interest for the NSA: high speed data acquisition and online/offline processing.

When the LHC is turned on and the detectors are detecting particle hits and particle showers, they produce around the same amount of data as the rest of the world combined at the same time. In order to store the relevant information, this data is first put through online data filters cutting out more than 90% of the irrelevant information. In the end you only have to write a few Terrabyte a second which is put through an offline filter and further reduce storage needed. The systems applied are close to the limit of what we can currently produce on the planet and if the NSA needs the best in that regard, CERN are the guys to ask.

Other than that, I can't see the NSA benefiting from what CERN is researching.

NSA and Cern are both run by the Illuminati. I feel like they are on very different missions though.

I suspect there are defectors from the Illuminati within the NSA as well.

>>139980870
Why is there so much data?
I don't understand.

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>>139979871
There certainly is Russian connection

>>139981073
>magnets

>>139980361
Are you a Jew troll?

>>139981098
>http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/drunk-employee-arrested-at-cern-after-causing-3-2-magnitude-earthquake/

m8 worldnewsdailyreport is a completely fake news website

>>139980870
>>When the LHC is turned on and the detectors are detecting particle hits and particle showers, they produce around the same amount of data as the rest of the world combined at the same time. In order to store the relevant information, this data is first put through online data filters cutting out more than 90% of the irrelevant information. In the end you only have to write a few Terrabyte a second which is put through an offline filter and further reduce storage needed. The systems applied are close to the limit of what we can currently produce on the planet and if the NSA needs the best in that regard, CERN are the guys to ask
I hadn't thought about that.
You bring up a really good point.
Data sorting must be REALLY important factor in domestic espionage

>>139981073
Try calculating the number of particles there are in that volume of space BEFORE vacuum. It'll give you a sense of scale.

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>>139981413
>>139981413
>fake news website
What? NO! You are fake news!

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>>139981073

When particles hit each other, or Protons/anti-Protons in terms of the LHC, then depending of the energy given to the protons by prior acceleration close to the speed of light, many many other particles are created as a result and the protons destroyed. Hence you can create matter out of energy in that way basically. And there are a fuckton of particles colliding at nearly the same time creating an even bigger fuckton of particles.

These particles fly in every direction and have to be detected in some way or another. These are the big detector system standing in designated areas around the collider, each being like 20 meters high, 30 meters long (just guessing here, don't know the exact size) consisting of way more than 100.000 detector channels to be read out at the same time.

These detectors track the trajectory of every particle created and to find out the point of origin. They also measure the energy of the created particle and its momentum. All the electronics for this is custom build of course which is partly also done in my institute but not by me. From this date, when looking for a specific particle (some expectations what to look for is known from theory), all the irrelevant data is cut out by the online filter because there does not exist a system on earth that can store this amount of data in such a short period of time, i.e. a fraction of a second. And such a system probably won't exist even in 10 or 20 years.

You basically have to do "track reconstruction" to find the particle you are looking for. The result is pic related.

>>139981521
I assumed they were just looking at a very small volume of space (where the particles actually collide)

>>139981773
http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/disclaimer_/

Under disclaimer:

>WNDR assumes however all responsibility for the satirical nature of its articles and for the fictional nature of their content. All characters appearing in the articles in this website – even those based on real people – are entirely fictional and any resemblance between them and any persons, living, dead, or undead is purely a miracle.

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>>139981828
GOOD POST

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>>139979871
NSA uses the Cern particle accelerator to channel the full resonance of the Schumann frequency in order to amplify their ability to monitor the humanity's latent subconscious.
They are doing this as an expansion of MKultra and the work of John C. Lilly.They have to monitor the subconscious to prevent anyone on Earth from contacting the Earth Coincidence Control Office (E.C.C.O.).
(E.C.C.O.) is a certain hierarchical group of cosmic entities with powerful influence in the universe. However, there are forces ((())) which want to prevent the advancement of human consciousness to control the population.
All of this was foretold in the Dead Sea Scrolls

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>>139981965
REEEEEEEEE

>>139981464
>Data sorting must be REALLY important factor in domestic espionage

Yes, they certainly use online filters to remove >90% of the information gathered because they can't store literally everything. But I also don't know the budget the NSA has for this. Yet even if they store everything, they won't have the manpower to go through all of this... they would need to have like 100k data analysts alone.

I can see online filters being extremely relevant for the NSA due to technological limitations in terms of storage.

>>139979871
sure. they use it at night to accelerate your autism

>>139979871
el psy kongroo

They figure out with particles they need to make this hurrikangz

>>139981828
thanks got it

you also said "you have to write a few Terrabyte a second" here >>139980870
but the measuring happens in much much less than a second right?

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No, its just a scam for corporations to milk money off tax payers.

>>139982222
nice quads famm

>>139981852
I'm no expert but I'm pretty sure they can't accurately predict where the streams of particles actually collide, so they're collecting in the entire tunnel the whole time and let data analytics sort it all out.

>>139979871
>some fishy organization
Only the forces of evil. Relax.

>>139982185

I already called to them about a half decade ago.

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>>139981828
>fuckton
I thought for a second that's a name of some sort of particle.
Other than that, I have no fucking clue what are you talking about.

>>139981828
>can create matter out of energy
We're not ready for this shit.
>>139982185
> foretold in the Dead Sea Scrolls
Please elaborate.

>>139981828

Think of it as a matter transmutation device; it's basic alchemy, expanded upon.

>>139982358
>but the measuring happens in much much less than a second right?

Yes, the measuring happens in a fraction of a second. To imagine it in a simple way, which might not reflect reality but you will get what I mean.

The huge ass detector has like 100k channels to be read out and every channel is read out by it's own computer (to be more precise, one computer should easily be able to handle 20 channels but you'll still need a fuckton of processing power). The data is then immediately "stored" on something similar to RAM and process by each channel/computer individually. I don't know the exact time scales here, but the whole online filter system needs to pass the relevant info in most likely under a second. This will get put together by another system in a sensible way and written to hard discs.

If I remember correctly, the end result is that after roughly one second you have 2 terrabyte of relevant data stored somewhere and THEN the next bunch of particles collide (you can time particle collisions how you see fit in terms of time scale) and the whole process repeats. The most important part is though that you literally lose no data in this process and the online filter has to take up all of the information, which can easily be over 100 terrabyte in a few milliseconds.

>>139979871
No, but it's deeply related to the underground sects of the CIA. NSA is technological, CIA esoteric intelligence.

Be very aware of KEK. The other PA

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>>139982185
it sounds like you have schizophrenia m8.

how the fuck does energizing a natural resonance of the earth help with mind monitoring?
> implying brainwave monitoring allows thought monitoring
> implying it's possible to remotely monitor a brain's electric currents without probes on the scalp
> implying it's possible to monitor millions of people at once without some sort of viterbi-algorithm EMF-wave-shaping phased-array radar monstrosity
> impying ECCO is a thing
> implying the dead sea scrolls have anything do you with your schizophrenia

The motherload of all conspiracies is yet to happen. Entropy reversal is the ultimate goal for CERN and once this comes to fruition the data will be used in conjunction with the NSA's data acquisition processes. Beware.

>>139983171
Yea sorta like advanced Alchemy, or better known as Hermetics.

If you read the Kybalion it would be abundantly clear.

>>139982185
That's the CIA brah. NSA only deals in American affairs. CIA is the central intelligence of the whole occult underground

>>139983171
>matter transmutation device

Not quite. Because that would mean (thinking about full metal alchemist here a bit) that the resting mass/energy of the particles is used and converted into other particles/matter. Yet, by accelerating the protons, you add more and more energy to the system and the more you have, more/different particles will be created. The excess energy, not matter, is used to create additional particles. Yet you need matter as an energy carrier in the first place.

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>>139982584
nah bro they time it to collide at the place in the tunnel where they built the big-ass detector

most of the beamline is about the size of a room. (a long tube plus magnets plus maintenance access)

the detector is the size of a large house (thousands of cameras for every kind of particle all aimed at a single point in the beam, plus a fuckton of computers)

>>139979871
yes. its called Dwave quantum computers. they're all entangled and communicate extra-dimensionally. plus they're gathering all available data on all humans and recreating the world in the 'Sentient World Simulation' to assist in pattern recognition, behavior prediction models, and even gangstalking.

>>139979871
sure yes
because they both work for the illuminatis

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>>139983377
>>139983055
>>139982620
>>139983668

Quick rundown here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOVlx4PRxZE

Also:
Vannevar Bush worked at MIT and was colleagues with John Trump. The same John Trump that had access to Tesla's research and equipment, including potential time travel equipment.

>>139983493
>Entropy reversal

Entropy reversal is something that is used "everywhere" in physics already and it's nothing new. You can create cooling mechanisms by forcing entropy reduction in paramagnetic materials by applying an external magnetic field.

Right know, companies developing fridges bring out "magnetic fridges" (google it) using such a principle to create silent and power efficient fridges. Entropy can always be reduces by applying external forces/fields.

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>>139983055
checked -- when observed data for research is so granular, it eventually becomes tangible, which is a tipping point.

for example -- http://www.iflscience.com/technology/scientists-create-holograms-you-can-touch/ (http://archive.is/6A5uL)

pic related

>>139983951
>Brain expansion project called MEMEX


I want off this ride

>>139980870
is CERN fucking with our weather?

>>139980870
where you at bru?

t. UA9

>>139984444

No, HAARP does though.

Ionosphere cavity resonance.

>>139982222
OY FUCKING VEY

>>139979871
There's a connection to the Internet. You fucking imbecile.

https://home.cern/topics/birth-web

>>139984444

YES, BECAUSE DIGITS WILL IT. Ok no not really, they are in a completely different part of science.

>>139984516
"External" group in Heidelberg, Germany. I won't go further into detail but I think you can easily pinpoint the exact location if you work at Cern.

>>139984041
Hey Hans I took thermodynamics too but I meant entropy as the unquantifiable explanation of the direction of time

>>139984041
> Entropy can always be reduces by applying external forces/fields.
*Local Entropy

it's safe to presume whatever they research there have a nefarious purpose. Earth truly is flat.

>>139984444
Time displacement and matter mutation as well as interdimensuonal portals are contributing to the increase in severe weather, and it's being targeted and directed by haarp, and intensified using tesla technology.

Fact

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>>139984444

>>139979871
Can't say a *direct* connection.
But it deals with physics, especially matter.
Their discoveries may be useful to some fishy organizations.
Anyway, if you want to check their real "connections", check their fundings.

>>139985411
i have seen a few webms of that type of thing. spoopy as fugg
>>139984747
thanks for the answer

>>139985411
>>139985781
It's a Russian rocket that's all fucked up.

>>139985855
yeah right

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>>139985855

I can't believe people actually bought that.

>>139985939
>>139986023
If you play Kerbal Spaceprogram, you can recreate it pretty easily

>>139985939
>rocket spins
>exaust makes spiral

EZ Solution

>>139986066

You can create an expanding vortex in the atmosphere with a beam trail from a rocket?

>>139979871
No.
I wish you ignorant fucking shitskins were banned from using keyboards. All you are accomplishing is proving that you don't belong in white-built societies.
You are ruining it for all shitskins everywhere by posting. And all 4B of them will know it was YOU who cost them the opportunity and privilege of being allowed to immigrate to a white-built country.
You are the epitome of a stupid nigger and you're not even black. How disgusting and shameful, Sage.

>>139986189
I don't buy it

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>>139986205
Yeah?
You're seeing rocket exhaust caught by the sun that's below the horizon.

Look at this one. The bright bit at the bottom? Same effect. Now spiral that shit due to a malfunction and it looks the same

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>>139986537

Makes no sense, it's a directed beam that's showing a spotlight on the atmosphere itself.

Pic related: is this just wifi to you?

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no NSA has Desertron

dont trust CERN

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>>139985855
Came from EISCAT Tromso.
I saw it come up from behind the mountain.

>>139985411
0:40 the outline of the mountain Tromsdalstinden can be seen on the right. Filmed from Tromso. Look at google maps to verify.

>>139981828

How might one go about looking for jobs relating to building those tools that serve the purpose of data visualization and analysis?

Background in developing games, rendering many objects in 3D space, whilst being able to interact with and analyze values of each thing, is really fun.

Tools programming is by far the most enjoyable thing about programming on teams; building the software that is adopted to increase productivity.

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>>139986683
>directed beam
What?

The rocket is spirally away from the point of view of the person taking the video.
Imagine a large cone with the rocket at the tip and the viewer at the base looking up.

Here's more rocket exhaust in the high atmosphere glowing eerily.
The issue is that the Norway rocket was spiralling

666

>>139987617
KEK

>>139987204
>looking for jobs relating to building those tools

Well you certainly need Uni education, either Physics or Computer Engineering.

>Background in developing games

I must say I won't bother imo. Very often the programming is done by physicist "on the fly" because it doesn't seem to be that complicated ( I don't programm myself, fucking hate it). If you are a "software only" guy than it's unlikely you'll find a job there. But if you really want to, the most logical steps are:

>have master degree
>look for Unis in Europe part of CERN projects
>apply for a phd student position and pray they'll take you
>have shitty pay for 3-4 years
>have phd, worked for CERN

>the large hadron collider goes under some people's fucking houses

Cool af

>>139987777

>>139987330

The corona of the spotlight is static, anon.

If it was being cast by the rocket it would not be static.

>>139987797
The bigger one in Texas did too.
Or would have

>>139987999
The "spotlight" is the sun
The rocket exhaust is really high up and still in the sun's light while the ground is not

>>139988140

>The "spotlight" is the sun

lmao

>>139988364
Look up noctilucent clouds.
It happens
Particularly at northern latitudes, which unsurprisingly is where this happened

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>>139986537
holy fuck you're dense. that's done by a rocket? kek

go do your homework

>>139988639

If it was sunset I'd be more apt to believe you.

>>139984444
Four fours

Fucking KEK

>>139988140
It didn't look very high up when I witnessed it.

>>139985411 the mountain you see from start is around 500 meters height, more or less.

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>>139979871
Yes, the NSA has a dossier on every particle ever created there and everything that particle did.

>>139984605
This

>>139985411
Is that a pedophile vortex I see?

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>>139988907
What you see in the video

>>139988660

His wife's son died in project bluebeam tbqh.

>>139988813
It happened near dawn
>>139988907
>It didn't look very high up when I witnessed it.

Things don't need to be near the zenith to be high altitude.
It was low on the horizon but far away.

>>139989572

Careful, don't deal in locs.

That's how you get got. Humor them.

>>139979871
CERN is trying to creat a time machine.
>t.watched Stein;Gate

>>139989654
It was a Russian rocket. Case closed.

>>139989770
That's not the only thing they are researching in secret.

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>>139989280
my wife's son died in an F5 tornado, please have some respect

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>>139989770
It still hurts.

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>>139986683
>>139986537
>>139987330
>>139988660
it was a gamma ray burst weapons test, i pasted this on GLP a few years ago
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2541523/pg1
>spiral happened near EISCAT, relatively near CERN and also near old russian nuke testing area
>Gamma rays would not penetrate Earth's atmosphere to impact the surface directly, but they would chemically damage the stratosphere
>gamma ray bursts do not always travel in a perfectly straight line and can spiral
http://www.astronomie.nl/?_escaped_fragment_=/index/_detail/gli/gamma-ray-burst-challenges-particle-acceleration-t/#!/index/_detail/gli/gamma-ray-burst-challenges-particle-acceleration-t/
>For the first time circular polarisation has been observed in the afterglow of a Gamma-ray burst (GRB) The light from the afterglow is 10,000 times more strongly circularly polarised than expected. The current theoretical models that describe particle acceleration in a GRB are unable to explain this surprising observation. it turns out that the light is not only linearly polarised - it propagates in one plane - but also circularly polarised - it propagates around an axis and follows a path like a corkscrew. "This finding is a huge surprise to us.
>Another reason this is now a possibility is the length of time it was visible, prior to 2009 or so the longest gamma ray burst was about 100 seconds. Since then there was been a few recorded instances of GRB lasting much-much longer, up to 7 hours in one case.
>up to 7 hours in one case
>up to 7 hours in one case
>up to 7 hours in one case
>over 10,000 seconds instead of the usual 100 seconds

>>139990644
also, why was no debris ever recovered? did Russia sneak into Norway to recover it? No footage of it falling? why was no government of norway confirmed radar imaging of rocket launch? Why hasn't russia proven it was rocket as they claim by releasing radar imagery or launch footage or any evidence at all? why was no rocket seen coming down?
Why was the spiral SO perfect? i've watched a shitton of military miss-launch videos looking for a spiral that was as perfect since that is common explanation, i can not find one anywhere near as perfectly symmetrically spiraled.

>>139982657
Imagine a digital camera. Its sensor is just a standard array of many light sensitive dots. Look at how big the uncompressed pictures are that even a bad camera can take: 10MPs at 32bit is 32*10000000 bits or 32MBits (~4MBytes) Look at the size of the chip, usually only a square centimeter.
Now imagine instead of 10MP/cm you have 100MP beause those particles are so freaking tiny.
Now imagine many behind each other to get a 3D resolution. (1GP per cubic centimeter --> 32GBit per picture or 4GByte).
Now imagine enough chips to surround a huge tube like the Atlas detector,about the size of a huge house. (simplification: Cylinder with d=20m and l=50m. With those detectors stacked only 10cm deep. Gives you pi*100 million of those detector cubes.)
Now imagine them taking Billions of pictures a second. (lets say 2 Billions. So 2 billions*314 Millions * 4GByte per second)
Now imagine more and different detectors to not just get the path of particles but also measure their energy, interaction with matter and fields...

This is where those huge data rates come from.

>>139987182
what is the purpose of this kind of test?

>>139992127
Not a test
It fucked up

>>139987182

Thanks for this buddy, maybe now I can figure out what they were trying to do.

Seems beyond simple projection

>>139992591
The direction of the beam gives it away.

>>139992269
very unlikely a rocket fuck up.

>>139985330
>Earth truly is flat.
What?

It's all based on Jack Parsons' (the founder of NASA they decided to erase from their history because he's more of a PR liability than the fuckins Nasis) research. Rituals he perfomed in the desert a year after the nuclear testing, and then a yeard after that UFOs start zipping over over White Sands. They didn't "fly" from anywhere, he simply tuned the frequency so that they can come THROUGH. They are reading Gnosticism wrong and trying to make Universe B bleed over into our reality more, so that finally GOD has to re-enter and fix everything, and theoretically put us back into Heaven/Golden Age.

>>139994118

>and theoretically put us back into Heaven/Golden Age.

The assumption that another would intervene at all is hilariously self-destructive.

>>139994228

Yeah well, they're fucking insane that's the point.

Check out pictures from their beam dumps, all you see is demon faces and shit.

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>>139987711
>>139987204
they do search for "pure" engineers too. But you have to go directly through CERN (their jobs are advertised on unjobs.org IIRC) and its hyper-competitive. What scientists produce as software usually works technically but can be vastly improved when given to a real software engineer.

>>139979871
that would be awesome, then they would not have to worry so much about money every single year and finally stop the downsizing.

>>139980870
>>139984516
nice, I worked at the CAST experiment for a short while in 2004. It was looking for Axions, a type of Dark Matter using an unbent LHC 10T magnet to convert the virtual photons of axion interaction into real ones using the primakov effect. Last time I checked they did not find anything but were able to exclode large swaths of the possible energy ranges for Axions.

>>139982185
please, stfu. Also dead sea scrolls just confirm that the bible was unchanged in 2000 years. They are not mystic prophecies at all.

>>139984444
>200m underground particle experiments
>fucking with the weather.
Yeah, no.
There are occasionally human sacrifices going on but I can assure you that those are perfectly normal human sacrifices with all required forms and applications filled out. Also they are completely unconnected to the NSA, CIA, Freemason or the Illuminati. Those are just baseless accusations from crackpots.

>>139994118
nonsense

>>139995173
will you please stop the slander. You are being an idiot right now, this has absolutely 200% no basis in reality.

In unrelated news: can anyone tell me how to convert a mp4 video to webm so that I can upload it? I tried 10 different parameters and every single time 4chan gives an erro. "only VP8 allowed" and "error: contains audio stream" being the most frequent ones

>>139997504

Good goy.

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I work at CERN ask me anything

>>139998795
do you think the plot of Doom 2016 is an accurate representation of your work environment?

>>139998795

do they give you free coffee? and is it kurig

>>139998795
what is the creepiest thing about working at CERN?

>>139998795
Is the Earth flat?
Are there other worlds?
is Space real?

>>139999085
No

>>139999266
Yes

>>139999295
Nothing is creepy at all

>>139999537
No
Yes
Yes

>>139999745
>No
Sounds like something a demon would say

>>139999905
That's it I'm not answering any more question

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>>139999905
>implying that CERN employee isn't a Cyberdemon shitposting online

>>139980870
>Physicist checking in, partly also working on a CERN project
fuck off, larper

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>>139983377
nice digits;
however
electronics are able to pick up on a lot and we know mass data collection is real. while they're storing everyone's texts and call history why couldn't they also collect the frequencies of your body??

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Hopefully that dumb webm will work now.

>>139998289
nonsense

>>139999085
No, but half-life is a bit closer. No aliens but tons of tunnels. Comfy when you need to go to/from the cafeteria and its raining

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>>140001516
yeahaa, finally!
I hate ffmpeg and I hate those stupid rules about webms here.

>>140001236
its more likely than you think. 9000 people, plus 5x as many that in the past worked. Then consider that they all tend to be rather tech-savy so most will have at least heard of 4chan.
>>139998795 for example looks genuine, also note the lack of any outlandish claims.

>>140000567
baseless conspiracies

>>139998795
At what position?

>>140002718
cryogenics

>>140001516
>>140001731
The fuck is this?

>>140002892
How long have you worked there? What do you know about the place besides your assignments?
What do you know about the sponsors and your superiors?

>>140003801
Supposedly some dark ritual conducted at night at CERN
The location is for sure CERN or it's a very elaborate fake

>>140001731
>baseless conspiracies, says an increasingly nervous Baron of Hell

>>140001731
https://github.com/MasterOfWebM/WebM-Converter

put exe in ffmpeg bin

set size limit 3, easy peasy

>>139979871
yeah the NSA is spying on our subatomic particles

>>139999999

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>>140003801
nuthin!

Posted the version with audio on /gif/ btw:
>>>/gif/11208904

>>140004113
it is the CERN, you can verify that with the photos and google maps.

>>140004230
>exe
Im not on WIndows. But finally I managed to get it to work.
I just wish that Handbrake had a built-in webm converter, would simplify everything a lot

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I also work at CERN, AMA.

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>>140004939
Fake, all the janitors at CERN are black.

>>139980870
hunter?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zW5gklIKcDg

>>139979871
Sven please, at least play some Half-Life to obtain knowledge what particle accelerator means

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>>140005505
Maximum cringe

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Also for those that asked about working there:
https://unjobs.org/non-un-organizations/cern