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Bahamas is 80% black and black lead for decades. GDP per capital $23,000 (US$). Seems like blacks can run a country. Your response race realists?
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>>139978995
Only if they suck american dick.
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It is a terrible place to live for most people
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>>139978995

Because white people still pay for it through tourism
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>>139978995
>GDP per capital
>per capital
>capital
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>>139979173
How so? I've never been.

>>139979181
Of course they do, black people don't tourist. And their second industry is tricky global finance. But the point is they are doing well. Plenty of other Caribbean islands, not run by blacks, are doing much worse.

>>139979561
Autocorrect.
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>>139980692
Most areas off the tourist areas are pretty bad. Kind of depends on the island. Don't know about the Bahamas specifically but I can say that with confidence about Trinidad and Jamaica, both majority black.
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>>139978995
Bahamas are run by Brits and Jews, retard.
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>>139978995
White tourists you ball sack.
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>>139980891
Bahamas are not Jamaica. Certainly most black countries have serious problems.

>>139980938
Proof? All the politicians look pretty black.

>>139981172
White tourists go to lots of Caribbean islands. Most of them are very poor with GDP/capita in the few thousands. My balls don't have eyes but they can still see through your argument.
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>>139978995

>surviving off white people's money

No matter where you go, it's always the same.
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>>139978995
>have priceless natural resource in the form of beautiful island
>6 gorillion tourists a year spending insane amounts of money
>still basically a shit hole
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>>139978995
Sounds like all American niggers should move to the Bahamas.
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>>139978995
>Your response race realists?
How about you tell me about their tourist economy where all they have to do is rent space, and people will pay for it.

Please relate this to how other blacks can emulate this exact process to make money. Explain how blacks in Chicago can rent space and make bank. It should be a totally interchangeable formula.
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>>139981903
not OP but how is it a shithole? the people live pretty good there by my knowledge
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>>139978995
Have you been to the bahamas? It's fucking nothing. Literally most of the land has nothing on it. It's shit.
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>>139980692
You would have to be a colossal moron to fuck up a tropical destination off the coast of the United States. It's about as minority run as one of those government consulting firms which has ownership and a board of directors who are a bunch of native americans. These injuns were just pow-wowing around on their shitty reservations when the white man came up and said: "Hey guys, we need to use your special minority status to give us a competitive advantage on winning government contracts. It will cost you $0.00, we need you to sign legal paperwork, you will own the majority of the company but will not work here but rather control the board of directors. You will do nothing, we will run it, win contracts, conduct business, etc. and we'll pay you 20% of our earnings annually.

Then the injuns sign the paperwork and suddenly their reservation is a lot more prosperous. If you think the Bahamas niggers are responsible for the resorts, infrastructure/administration, and off-shores accounting you're deluding yourself. It's all controlled by outside interests and the niggers there are smart enough, to their credit, to take their gibs and not interfere. They are not an example of blacks succeeding in building a successful society by themselves.
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>>139981970
You can make tourism anywhere if you're savy enough.
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>>139978995
Tourist destination, like Hawaii. Free money constantly coming to the island. All you have to do is provide a clean sandy beach.
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>>139982070
i'd buy land there desu
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>>139978995
https://www.offshore-protection.com/bahamas-tax-havens

"The government of The Bahamas (The Bahamas being the official name of the country) is highly proactive in its attempts to attract offshore business, which accounts for over 30% of the country's economy with tourism accounting for approximately 60%."

Tourism and tax haven.

The government might be black lead, the economy isn't.
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>>139978995
It's literally a tax haven for politicians and corrupt banks. Other wise it would be like Haiti
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I thought the Bahamas got flash froze and moved to Antarctica or some shit?
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>>139982195
and the niggers will destroy it

it's like crete dumbass
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>>139978995
Same with Nigeria, Chad and Brazil.

Racists have problems dealing with simple facts.
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>>139978995
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

Murder rate per 100,000:

Bahamas: 29.81
USA: 4.88
UK: 0.92
Japan: 0.31
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>>139981970
My point is not that it can be recreated to save all blacks. But just to point out a fairly successful black run country exists. Something /pol/ often denies can exist.

>>139982086
>>139982126
But why is it doing so much better than the other black islands in the Caribbean? Are not some also tax havens? How is it even stable enough for that kind of economy?

>>139982587
Those countries are not very good examples of successful middle income economies, which is why I didn't use them.
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>>139983391
oh look what a surprise, just the same murder rate as any majority black city.
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>>139983391
>>139983672
Black violence is separate issue from whether they can run a government. I'm not suggesting you move there. More like, why is it safe to do your banking there?
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>>139978995
>>139980692
>How so? I've never been.

/pol/ in a nutshell
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>>139978995
Tuvalu is better argument for race realism
>blacks
>super low crime
>and religious
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>Tourism is big business in The Bahamas and a mainstay of the economy, contributing nearly 40% to the country's total gross domestic product.
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fucking lmao bruh
sure its all black but the money that comes in changes hands and gets washed is all nice and white. good place to do business and what with quite alot of finacial institutions in the caribbean a math and or business degree goes a long way
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>>139978995
A tax haven doing well? What a surprise. I'm sure all that money is well distributed to the whole population.
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>>139984672
The pacific island? The one that is 96% Polynesian?

>>139984622
Not an argument.
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>>139978995
Bahamas survives off white tourists going there. Also, Bahamas should be nuked for braiding white girls hair so we all have to see that retarded shit when they come back from vacation.
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>>139978995
There is some black kid in my college from the Bahamas. He claims that he owns a Starbucks franchise and dresses like a consumerist faggot. Pic is what he carries his shit around in.
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>>139985498
There is a very thin line between nigger culture and fag culture I've noticed.
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>>139978995
>>139984463
>"Seems like blacks can run a country."
>Basic necessities like assuring the safety of your person aren't even met

The Bahamas is a tiny country, smaller than ours. If we had their murder rate, we'd basically have a murder virtually every day instead of every three months. Since everyone knows everyone else, almost certainly somebody you know personally would be murdered every year. That's what the Bahamas is, it's a war zone.

I bet it has all the other hallmarks of a black country too, like high crime rate in general, high traffic fatality rate, generally shitty people and antisocial behavior, government corruption and incompetence, etc.

They make money on tourism and tax evasion, literally easymode tier economies. By your logic the Arab countries are successful too because they're rich. Even though don't they don't even fucking extract the oil themselves.
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one tiny island that thrives from white tourism vs dozens of third world shit holes. Yea niggers are subhuman
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>>139985063
Rare Kimbo knows what it's all about
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>>139985607
Yes. They love to wear feminine designer brands, real or not.
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>>139985498
I just realized this kid's dad is probably using the franchise to launder money.
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>>139978995
The Bahamas have less than 200,000 adults, they were a British colony, and are a US protectorate.
They are also a prime tourist destination.
Running the country is easy.
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>>139984900
>>139985416
Yes yes, there are no other tourist destinations in the Caribbean.

>>139985063
>>139985188
More likely, but you have any more data than /pol/ spitballing? If the city of New Orleans seceded from the US and started a bank would you trust them with your money?

>>139985638
Sheesh, finally. Thanks, this is a little better. I used New Orelans above because it is similar by murder rate and probably many of those measures. However it is still quite livable.

I guess a comparison of countries that are both tourist and tax havens is the next step.
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>>139978995
>Cherry picking fallacy threads
These have increased in frequency as of late, so in the interest of producing a better informed ebil nazi huwhite supremracist, here are some facts about it.

Cherry picking, suppressing evidence, or the fallacy of incomplete evidence is the act of pointing to individual cases or data that seem to confirm a particular position, while ignoring a significant portion of related cases or data that may contradict that position. It is a kind of fallacy of selective attention, the most common example of which is the confirmation bias.

Cherry picking may be committed intentionally or unintentionally. This fallacy is a major problem in public debate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherry_picking
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>>139985498
Starbucks doesn't franchise
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>>139986250
I've always wondered why, I'm guessing they associate the brand's with status do wearing faggy clothing is cool as long as it's brand name to push the illusion of success. Blacks in my area look borderline trannys to the point that out of state blacks make fun of them. It's weird.
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>>139987776
I thought so when I heard him say it. My school is not cheap, and he does not come off as very bright, so idk how he can afford it.
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>>139986964
Those other tourist destinations survive off of tourist money too. What's your point?
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>>139982040
your knowledge is lacking
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>>139988032
his parents. wtf else?
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>>139988410
Yeah, but why lie about owning a franchise? He openly said in class introductions last week that he "owns" (parents bought him) a Starbucks franchise. My school has a significant number of old money kids, so he isn't exactly impressing anyone.
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>>139986954
>>139988061
This is not a unique situation in the Caribbean. Yet Bahamas is doing so much better, by like $10,000/capita, why? (It is still a British protectorate not US)

>>139987112
Everyone has seen it. Go find a redpill thread.

>>139987758
>all are like this
>why some different?
>no, be quiet. All.
Sorry, but sometimes you do need to explain the exceptions.
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>>139988676
cause he's a fucking liar. he's a faggot anyway, by the looks of that bag.
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>>139982587
somebody used some of my original content!

Brazil is 47.73% white so I don't think you can count it, even if Brazil "whites" are more likely to be huehuehues.

I also don't know why people list nigeria as a successful country, they are currently undergoing a large insurgency, though this probably has more to do with muslims than it does to do with blacks

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boko_Haram_insurgency
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>>139989066
>hes' a fucking liar
I figured that out
>he's a faggot anyway, by the looks of that bag.
Possibly. Most niggers dress like that though after they sold a kilo of coke.
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>>139978995
You realize a can of beans cost like 7 bucks there right?
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>>139981743
Do you really think politicians run countries?
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>>139978995
Yea, Laundering Drug money is apparently fool proof
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>>139978995
>Your response race realists?
Have you seen a bell curve? They have edges, no sane race realist would deny that "no smart black people exists" or that "all black people are criminals".
Also note that the Bahamas has an average IQ of 84, which puts it somewhere in the top 25, among other atleast somewhat developed states, such as the United Arab Emirates.

Notice that the statement "Black countries often have a low GDP" does not imply that "all black countries have a low GDP", this is an obvious reply.
It would not be unreasonable to assume, even by hardcore race realists, that a black country with a high GDP exists.
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>>139991519
Don't the lizardpeople run every country? Bahamas is run by politicians as much as any other country. Unless you know who the secret controllers are, there is nothing we can say about it.

Right now can anyone answer, where the money is going, about corruption, conditions for the median citizen? And why it is different. Those are some of the interesting points brought up so far.
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>>139992311
The black countries that have money are tourist destinations, and are often tax havens. This is the case with the Bahamas. I
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>>139992453
Politicians are figure heads. Money talks. The Bahamas has money because of tourism and
various financial havens (Laundering, tax, shell companies, etc)
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>>139992555
Exactly.
That is the entire point, the claim of race realists is always about generality. Special cases can always exist.
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LOL ITT NIGGER.
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>>139988676
Nope. Starbucks doesn't franchise, so complete bullshit.
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>>139978995
Other 20% runs the place
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>>139992746
Also, there is a huge wealth gap in the Bahamas. Only a few thousand Bahamians actually live a upper class lifestyle.
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Bahamian/American here. Was a (very young) political advisor to the FNM for their election victory last may. I can take any questions about Grand Bahama in particular, that was the island i was living and working in during the campaign. Ill post some pictures too, yes it is a very nice country.
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>>139980692
>not run by blacks
Not run by Jews puppetting blacks.
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>>139994352
Still a British colony in all but name
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>>139992311
>>139992746
I suspect you of being new. "often" would be the safer argument, but it is not the one I've seen.
We are talking about a population, not individuals. To say Bahamas is an exception is to say the whole population has a curve shifted up the IQ scores. Maybe that is the case, but also very interesting.
Besides explaining the exceptions is interesting and important work.

>>139993462
Sure, but how many upper class should you expect out of a couple hundred thousand? Maybe it has a large middle class. (Probably not) I'll ask this guy.

>>139994165
What are the conditions for the middle class? How big is it? Has Bahamas been getting better or worse since the British stepped back? Who really runs the country?
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>>139994603
>I suspect you of being new.
To /pol/? definitely not.

>To say Bahamas is an exception
It is certainly an exception when you look at its tourism, I doubt that many other mainly black countries get so much tourism.
Which at least needs to be part of the explanation why it has such an high GDP.

I was only arguing that the existence of exceptions does not disprove the general theory.
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>>139994603
>Sure, but how many upper class should you expect out of a couple hundred thousand? Maybe it has a large middle class. (Probably not) I'll ask this guy.
Just because ~2,000-4,000 Bahamians are rich (first world lifestyle), it does not mean the country is rich. They do not have a large middle class, which is what signifies a first world country imo. Bahamas' economy is based off tourism and finance. Most Bahamians work in the tourism industry.
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>>139994603
There is a very small middle class. That is usually where the British decendants (and i) are oriented, and many blacks. These are people whomare civil servants, shop owners, and teachers. The british had planned to build alot of the island up, so they cleared and paved roads everywhere. Many of these roads lead nowhere and have no buildings on them at all. But the houses that are out there, are owned by the middle class people, who can afford to build barbed wire fences around their homes. I live in freeport, which is the largest city, i have a condo in a touristy area because its nicer (pic related) Bahamas was hit hard by hurricane Matthew and alot of funds had been held up until after the election but the ball is rolling now to reopen some of the resorts that were damaged, because the economy is very tourist driven
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>>139995154
Also if you are white, you are a king, and the people would not DARE lay a hand on you. To the government, you are their number 1 priority, because if you are white and in the Bahamas, you are serving a very important purpose or
Job, or are a tourist spending LOTS of money.
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>>139978995

You mean the place American whites and everyone else visits all the time and throws money at?
I wonder what would happen if the tourism industry was gone and all the white people vanished.
I'm sure I'll get no response to this.
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>>139995496
Do you know anything about the financial institutions there?
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>>139995567
Its irrelevant, thats what their economy is based around, the people are living MUCH better than they would be in jamaica or africa. The same could be said about how the united states would be, had it not been for tobacco, cotton or oil.
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>>139978995
yea because being in 98th place in the global economy is a thing right... right... oh its not? anything below 30th place is considered a 3rd world country?!?!?!

damn black people maybe you should try harder
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lousiana is like 50% black but america is still functioning. whats your point?
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>>139978995
First of all it's 90%+ black. At least get your facts straight before making a fucking thread.

Second of all, pic related. Should help clear things up
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>>139995567
People throws money at because it's a great place to spend your money and have a good time.
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>>139995591
Tourism makes up about half of the economy, the rest is fish and fruit export, oil refining and shipping. The Bahamian dollar is equal to the US dollar and its more common to be handling US currency than Bahamian currency. And of course, corruption is rampant everywhere. They have a VERY established two party system. Commonwealth bank is the mist common bank in the Bahamas.
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>>139996389
Yes. But I have heard there is something like 250 banks/ financial institutions that operate there.
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>>139996225
>The queen can't even wipe her own ass anymore.
>Somehow she cleans the streets, works the hotels and cooks the food.
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>>139982209
>offshore business, which accounts for over 30%
sounds like money laundering
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>>139996630
Im actual not sure, i was never involved with the economic politics of the campaign. But i know that the Bahamas is a tax haven for foreign investors. I know there are no more than 10 commercial banks operating in the Bahamas right now.
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>>139996389

Palm Beach fag here, couple of questions

1) what are you gun laws like, for whites obviously

2) what do people eat there? like whats a normal dish people eat
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Tourism but yes it works, the average IQ for them is 93 a few points under an Africans born in the UK.
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>>139981172

And so? Good for Blacks, their Island is so well managed that tourist are more attracted to it.
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>>139978995

Tourism, they all work for companies owned by whites. Without US tourists they'd be another shithole, but thankfully they have really nice beaches.
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>>139984672

What the fuck are you talking about, Tuvalu is full of pacific islanders.
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>>139997357
Gun laws in the Bahamas are what you would expect in the states. No automatic arms and you are subject to background check before obtaining a license to purchase. I have never seen a gun store here in my life. You can only obtain a gun license if you are a citizen.

We eat FISH FISH FISH, everyone here eats fish. Groceries here are very expensive, about two times you would pay at the store.
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>>139997337
I was wondering because >>139985063 said a business/math degree goes a long way. The Bahamas is close af to Florida and I was wondering what the pay would be for a white businessman
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>>139978995
idk.....watev i guess also what a random pic to choose
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>>139978995
They're so corrupt that they had to have new elections to keep from ever fucking up again.
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>>139997357
People love eating conch too. Conch salad, conch fritter. Its all good stuff. The best conch you can get on the island is NOT at a restaurant but at a stand on the side of the road somewhere.
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>>139978995
Only place I've been to outside of the US. I hate sand so it wasn't the most enjoyable stay. But the cruise was awesome and had a 24/7 authentic Italian pizza buffet
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>>139998245
any particular style? grilled, fried, etc? rice and beans, plantains, bammy etc. as sides?
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>>139997923
>they all work for companies owned by whites.

You think they are controlled by a minority?

What do you think this it's, jewish america?
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>>139978995
>80% black
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>>139998288
Most of the whites i know here are teachers. If you like living a modest life with beautiful beaches than the bahamas is the place for you. Your degree would be much more valuable in the states though, more room for upward movement.
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>>139983519
It's doing better because it's the fucking bahamas you retard, do you have any idea how many cruise ships and tourists swing through those islands?
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>>139998713
Grilled is the most common, they grill fish with everything, mosty sage. These people also like to beer batter anything they can get their hands on. Ive eaten enough fish for my entire life here.

Also, wanna see weed in the bahamas? This is it.
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>>139999449
That doesn't even look like weed. Are you white?
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>>140000293
Yes. Graduated WVU class of 2016 and immediately got a job working with the FNP campaign through a friend of mine.
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>>140000924
How are the Bahamian people? I haven't visited the Caribbean since I was younger, but blacks there seem much calmer than the ones in the states
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>>139980891
>Don't know about the Bahamas specifically but I can say that with confidence about Trinidad and Jamaica, both majority black
That's Jamaica. The Bahamas are fine. Nassau is a city, and comes with the crime that most cities do, but otherwise the Bahamas are perfectly safe to walk around in. Jamaica is a dump though.

Also, Trinidad is alright in the Indian areas.
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>>140001810
The Jamaicans in tourist towns treat you like a king though.
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>>139978995
>A country built around catering to and servicing rich white people on their vacations
>Singing and dancing for the amusement of their white masters
>Fetching wild boar so that their patrons can enjoy an exotic feast
Sounds like the kind of place blacks can really excel
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>>139985188
>I'm sure all that money is well distributed to the whole population.
>t. USA

oh the ironing
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>>140001570
Like i said before, if you are white, you are treated like a king. Much kinder and better behaved than American blacks and VERY dark. All of their women are fat. Very kind people, always smiling or laughing and they ALL know each other. You could walk out id the store and here "Heyyyyyy Bobbbyyyy" and youll see the friendliest encounter ever. Only downside of having lived there is sometimes its hard to communicate.
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>>140001902
Only inside the resorts. No way in hell I'd go outside of them. Also, the Jamaicans that move to Florida are quite shit, about on par with Haitians. Bahamian ex-pats are alright though.
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>>139996939
Yeah no shit, it's the Bahamas.
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>>139978995
what is tourism faggot
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>>140002624
Even still, other tourist areas in the Caribbean don't have per capita GDPs that high. The Bahamas is #3 in North America, and America and Canada
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>>140002624
>>140003608
*after America and Canada
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>>139978995
Kek look up fyre festival and see how great the bahamas are.
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45% of the Bahamas GDP comes from tourism.
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ive only ever seen fried fish there... theres a reason their women are 400 lbs
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