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Could you pull the trigger?

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Just out of wondering curiosity, How many of you are actually ready to pull the trigger that ends someone's life? Everyone fantasies about being the John McClain hero that kills all the bad guys and doesn't have to worry about the fallout at the end but real life is usually much more muddy and grey.

Are you truly ready and willing to take someone's life if they are robbing you? Sure it is your money and possession but those are just things. Things that can be replaced at a small sum given today's customer protection policies with banks and credit cards. If they mean to kill you simply to kill you obviously the answer is to do everything to prevent it but vast majority of muggings and robberies end without bloodshed. Who are you to decide it is acceptable to escalate the situation and kill a human being over a some small pittance in the grand scheme of life?

>they deserved it for attacking me first
Yes criminals are in the wrong and must be sought out to receive justice. Where they will hopefully one day emerge from prison reformed and ready to restart life. If you snuff it out before they had a chance to redeem themselves who is worse? The person that over reacted or the person that made a foolish mistake?
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>>139971476
>how dare you make me kill you
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>>139971476
Are you from Sweden or something?
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>>139971476
You got a number on the amount of people that get reformed?
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>>139971476
There is no room for hesitation in a self-defense situation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkWgp2abM2w&app=desktop
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My life > Their life
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>>139971482
That is the preached false fallacy isn't it? My life > their life. However very often your life is not on the line if you comply. Sure you lose your possession in the short term but they are recovered or reimbursed and law enforcement has time and information to make an arrest.

If the attack means to kills you without a doubt attack until they are not a threat however most of these situations can end without loss of human life if you would stop violently forcing them to an end at the end of a gun barrel. We have police, let them do their jobs and if they never find them. You at out $300. At least you don't live the rest of your life with the guilt of having killed another person. Someone's Son or Daughter.
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>he's white
Will fire once
>he's not white
Will magdump
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>>139971483

stop trying to justify theft under threat of violence you fucking subhuman filth
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>>139971483
yeah learn to write
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>>139971483
>or reimbursed
If it's your car, maybe. You think you're getting your wallet/watch/phone and cash back after Tyrone buys crack with it?
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>>139971483
>letting someone walk off with your shit
Play stupid games win multiple pieces of lead penetrating your body at high speeds
>but he was just misunderstood
>he needed to provide for his family
I can't count the number of times I found bitch work jobs in HS to get extra cash.
I washed dealership lots for a dollar an hour. Just because you don't want to work to survive doesn't mean you can take shit I've earned with no consequences.
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>>139971476
>How many of you are actually ready to pull the trigger that ends someone's life?

Considering that is what I was trained to do, what do you think?

Rat-a-tat-tat. You think I'd care about some 11 year old ghetto rat trying to jack my wallet so he can have cool shoes?

Fuck no, have five (or so) rounds, wee lad, and fuck off.

And fuck your "parents", and fuck your "culture". .
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>>139971483
My stuff > their life too.
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>>139971476

>caring about some scumfuck criminal faggot

yeah no, fuck off bleeding heart liberal pussy
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>>139971476
I'm autistic so yes
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Totally ready. Want to see what a full tube of #4 buck does to whoever is unfortunate enough to try to kick down my door.
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>>139971476
Everyone fantasies about being the John McClain hero
ah....no
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>>139971476
You're fucking retarded OP. If someone presents a threat to my existence, I'm going to present one of equal or greater force to theirs. You don't give people like this the benefit of the doubt that they don't really want to kill you.

If they have gotten the jump on me and are running away with my wallet, I'm probably not going to shoot them in the back, but I wouldn't ever criticize someone who did.

Be a bigger limp wrist faggot, please. Coddling violent criminals is exactly why they are allowed to thrive.
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>>139971476
tl:dr but I'm going to do everything I can to avoid shooting someone. I have guns because I enjoy tight groups but I do carry. If you back me into a corner I won't lose any sleep over putting you down.
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>>139971476
Reformation is bullshit. All it leads to his crap episodes with crap writing. Villains deserve to be destroyed before they become OOC recurring characters.
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>>139971496
Oh forgot, if you're robbing my house the only reason you might live is that I don't want to have to clean your blood out of my carpet while simultaneously seeing my property devalued. You absolutely "should" be shot for invading a home though.
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>>139971476
The answer is a strong resounding, yeeeessssssssss.
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It was nice of OP to furnish the appropriate reaction pic.

See the black dude on the far right for my answer you leftist faggot.
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>>139971498
sure kid
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>>139971480
Glad this happened 30 years ago

Had this happened in current day LA they'd put him under the jail and he'd be on every major news network
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>>139971476
It's called natural law. Touch a mans things and you're taking your life into your hands. The punishment is death, as it is deservedly so.
It's the foundation of civilization. It's why we don't have roving bands of marauders looting everyone "peacefully".
OP sounds like more liberal bullshit infecting every crevice of society/tradition right now. Fuck off.
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>>139971476
Seeing as I've shot an intruder in the past yes, yes I am. I regret the necessity of having to shoot the tweaker but I don't feel any guilt or loose any sleep about it.
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>>139971476
There is no inherent value to human life or feelings. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
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>>139971483
So you're a spineless moron then? Ok.
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>>139971476
I remember a story from Bongistan, where a man was held up. He did everything the authorities wanted him to do. He complied to the robber's demands and gave him what he asked for. The robber's walked away after getting the man's stuff, and then going by some nigger impulse in his DNA turned around and stabbed the man to death.

So pretty much, don't empathize with a criminal.
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>Where they will hopefully one day emerge from prison reformed and ready to restart life
>recidivism don't real
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>>139971480
Racist cunt...
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>>139971476

If the redguard who invaded my home isn't complying with my orders while I'm pointing my AR at him and is a threat to me or my family, I will shoot him until he is no longer a threat. If he dies in that process that's his problem.

>Hear crash bang boom
>Grab AR, rack da charging handle
>See future civil rights leader going through my shit
>"GET THE FUCK ON THE GROUND"
>bix nood mah fuggah
>"GET ON THE GROUND"
>SKRIM shim zip zip baboobah mah fug mah fug sheet dindu nuffin
>STOP MOVING
>man zig a zoozoo nigga fuk dindu nuffin
>BOOMBOOM BOOM
>EEEEEEEEEEE
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>>139971476
>"Now, some of you boys, I know, are wondering whether or not you'll chicken out under fire. Don't worry about it. I can assure you that you will all do your duty. The Nazis are the enemy. Wade into them. Spill their blood. Shoot them in the belly. When you put your hand into a bunch of goo that a moment before was your best friend's face, you'll know what to do."
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>>139971483
>If the attack means to kills you without a doubt
Someone who chose to gamble your life is not someone that is entitled to your benefit of the doubt.
He should get some mercy if he chooses to make the situation such that it is without a doubt that he will not kill someone. Otherwise, he should expect everyone else to try to maximize their own chances of survival without regard for his.
The gamble is his.
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>>139971476
Nobody here killed anyone. All boys insecure about themselves thinking they 'survival skills' and weapons will make them a hero in a shtf situation. Its just fantasy, nothing else.
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15 shots at 10 yards on the right.
Left is 25 yards
I just enjoy shooting.
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>>139971514
Newest gun
10 yards; 10 shots
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>>139971488
Buddy you must be fuckin stupid to work for a dollar an hour instead of just robbing someone
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>>139971476
Who's John mcclain?
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>>139971514
Edc gun at 10 yards
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>>139971476
I wouldn't live caring about the shame and guilty of killing a man, not that those things means nothing to me, but I'd completely accept 'em. I actually have the fear that I'll live my whole life without having the chance to legitimately kill a man, I mean, I wouldn't have the chance o try one of the most intense experiences a man can experience
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>>139971514
Shooting on an empty stomach
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>>139971476
You really need to kill yourself. Like, now.
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>>139971476
Did you read the book? John Mc Clain looses his daughter gets his body wrecked and lots of bystanders get killed and he's facing trial.

Hell man, even the guys at the OK Coral were tried for murder...they beat it because the guys they killed were gang members but there was still court shit to deal with
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>>139971517
Die Hard, dude. Classic late 80s action movie.
>HO HO HO, NOW I HAVE A MACHINE GUN
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>>139971476
Unfortunately, yes, you must have the will to kill if you draw a weapon to defend yourself from harm.

Warning shots will get you in jail and worse, get you injured or dead

I tried to show mercy to a home invader and hold him at gun point until cops arrived...he took out my eye with a hammer and then I proceeded to unload every round of buckhot I had into the tube into his thighs and knees.

He bled out fast...but had plenty of time to feel it as he went so perhaps for him it wasn't fast enough.

Now I've lived without having an eye for a decade and I will always regret not just shooting him on sight.
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>>139971510
If you had the time to tell them not to move or get on the ground, then your life was not in immediate damage. If someone has forcefully and unlawfully entered your home, you put them down with extreme prejudice.
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>>139971517
He was gonna be president but then he crashed an airplane into vietnam
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>>139971514
Seeing how accurate I could be with my cz's at 10 yards.
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>>139971526

Was getting caught part of his plan
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>>139971476

Criminals are for arrest whrn you are to late to kill them.
If you find them before police it's your moral obligation and family duty to end them.
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>>139971514
Here's this little gun at 7 yards, trigger is terrible.
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>>139971530
God I hate the LCP platform. It's just too small for my hands to effectively hold.
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>>139971531

>Platform
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>>139971531
My only issue was the trigger. Traded it in on >>139971518.

Both are easier to hold that the Glock 43.
>pic is Glock 19 and buddies smoothbore shield at unknown distance.
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>>139971476
What if they are planning on killing you after they rob you ?

Just let them ?
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>>139971476
Pretty sure I killed a dude(on accident) with a cricket bat a while ago so I don't think I'd care too much honestly shooting some asshole intent on harming me.
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>>139971476

But the idea that "I can just replace my things" isn't universally true, unless they're insured your stuck with jack shit if they never find the guy, the way I rationalize it is that if a person is attempting to rob you or is breaking into your house they have shown that they are incapable of functioning in a normal society and violence is likely to be the only form of authority that they respond to, plus I'd be willing to bet that if 50% of people that attempted to rob or mug someone just got shot you would see the number of attempted robberies go down, it's all a risk vs reward game make the risk too great and they stop playing.
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>>139971525
Doesn't matter if you have castle doctrine
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>>139971483
>However very often your life is not on the line if you comply.

You don't know that at all, I'm not willing to bet my life on the word of someone robbing me
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>>139971535
We've all "accidentally" killed someone. It's hardly the same.
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>>139971524
>this happened
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>>139971476
I can honestly say I couldn't.
I could never end a human life. That crosses a line desu
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>>139971476
I have chased a person with axe, intent of killing him, he was faster.

I also have stabbed a guy in the thigh, i was trying to cut his arterie to kill.

>inb finnish stereotypes

They were child molesters as in candymen.

With gun it would have been easier, so yes, i certainly would pull trigger.
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>>139971476
The question you should be asking yourself OP is "am I willing to take the risk that this motherfucker is going to shoot me when I try to rob him." Nigger.
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>>139971476
I beat a guy into a three week coma with a club, might as well have killed him and nothing changed in my life.
The brain knows how to protect itself, you make something up were he deserved it all and more, then the thing is OK with you.
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>>139971483
>just let him rob you of your shit like what do you need it for lmao
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>>139971513
Yep tell the sandniggers that I was just larping and didnt really put them 6 feet under.
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>>139971525
>two niggers break into your house
>only one of you
>take your eyes off one nigger
>never relax
>better to just shoot them both and let god sort it out
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>nigger
>human

Pick only one
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Killing is easy, what is your confusion with it. It's called compartmentalization. I'm sure some faggot American will disagree though.

Pffffft fags.
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Taking a life changes you forever. One needed to decide, as I did when I got my CCP, can you live with that. When you take someone's life it is like they crawl into your soul and won't leave. Yes I have done it. I know. But I will not allow anyone to take my life or one of my loved ones. I got plenty of room in my would for bad people who needed it.
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>>139971476
>Are you truly ready and willing to take someone's life if they are robbing you?
In a heartbeat.
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>>139971676
Well you have simply decided you would rather be "prey". You do recognize that your survival is dependent on having enough of us that refuse to be prey around you that you can randomly squeak through life, right?
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>>139971476
Self preservation and the continuation of your lineage is the driving force for all living things. So yes.. If someone or something threatens that I am prepared to kill in self defense or the defence of my family. To be unwilling to do so welcomes and deserves extinction.
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>>139971476
>John McCain hero
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>>139973603
Neat, smooth execution. He knew what was coming and handled it right.
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>>139973603
holy shit
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>>139973603
That guy's reactions are beautiful. No hesitation. He was fucking ready.
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>>139971476
The problem with the "it's just things" argument is that you don't actually know what the invader wants. They could just want things or they could want to rape and murder your daughter.
Disabling the invader is the only absolute way of maintaining your safety.
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I could because I have done. Not in a self defense context, either.

If you cannot kill someone, you're hardly a man.
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>>139973603
He beat a drawn gun. Everyone and I mean everyone says you can not beat a drawn gun. That was awesome.
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>>139971476
You watch too much tv. Anyone can and will kill under the right circumstances.
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>>139974057
John McClain is the name of an action movie hero.
Not John McCain
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>>139974925
This. Premeditated murder is one thing, but forced into a life or death situation when the analytical portions of the brain shut down in favor of the primal survival aspects is a whole different deal.
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>>139971476
i know for a fact that i could kill someone
it would keep me up sometimes maybe but ive always been told it gets easier after the first
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>>139974925
Which history has proven.
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>>139971476
There's nothing in my moral conscious that keeps me from pulling the trigger myself. Its really only the consequences of said actions. I would be a fantastic mercenary.
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I'm a physician.,,I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Life may be precious but it's super cheap...I wouldn't hesitate killing someone else..,maybe I have before? Dunno...
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>>139971483
You're trusting the motives of a stranger and a robber to let you live after he's taken your things. All it takes for a coward to kill someone is a brief moment of anger and the upper hand.
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>>139973603
>take several shots to the front
>run away
>jump down a few stairs
>another shot or two to the back
>time to fake a slip and hit the wall
>make sure to stop first so you don't actually hit the wall at full speed
>no blood anywhere

At least the girl didn't cover her ears. Might have made someone think they were at least using proper blanks.
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>>139975859
>take several shots to the front
>run away
>>no blood anywhere
Stop watching anime
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>>139971476
if i have a gun on hand and a robber in front, you sure as hell im shooting first and figuring out if they have a weapon later, im not getting shot because I had second thoughts

otoh i wouldnt grab a gun and walk in front of a robber, if i could
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>>139971476
>How many of you are actually ready to pull the trigger that ends someone's life?

Depends on the life.

>Are you truly ready and willing to take someone's life if they are robbing you?

Gladly, even if I have nothing they could take. It's a service to humanity as far as I'm concerned. Spare me your inevitable "boohoo criminals are people too" bullshit btw, criminal lives don't matter.
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>>139971476

Killing is nothing to aspire towards as civilized men, but to take death off the table is to invite tyranny. There is no difference in killing a man vs that of a pig. Only the pitch of the screams unto silence.

If you are going to kill, make sure it is for the right reason.

Also, if you are considering suicide , please take a few politicians with you / jews / hood rats. Thank you.
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>>139976202
Imagine being so retarded that you think breaking the law in Brazil is a good idea
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>>139971483
Im sure the worthless little sewer rat understood the risks when they decided to take other people's rightful possessions. I have a limited amount of time on this Earth, and I spent some of it gaining the possessions that person is trying to take. So as far as I'm concerned, him robbing me is the same as him trying to take away a part of my life. Thus, I have no problem taking his in return.
You could either kill him and walk away right then and there, or get your shit taken and opt to deal with the nightmare that is the government and have them try getting your shit back, and even then there's no guarantee. If you haven't already figured out, this option would waste even more of your time.
Fuck robbers. They deserve to die.
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Break the NAP, take a dirt nap.
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>>139971476
why aren't taking out muslims with your waifu /pol/?
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>>139971517
The inventor of google.
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>>139971483
>"just let yourself get cucked and robbed senpai, no need to protect whats yours"
look at this swede
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The idea that someone who is killed in a robbery lost their life over the "things" they're stealing is delusional. Defensive shooters are responding to the threat of deadly force that a robber is utilizing to gain compliance with their robbery.
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>>139971527
G O O D T A S T E
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>>139976202
Damn, they don't play around. 9.9/10
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>>139974925
look at the unabomber or charles whitman
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>>139975859
>Finn doesn't understand how guns work
What did he mean by this?
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>>139971510
It's hard to kill someone up close and personal like that, but you would definitely pull the trigger because you'd be scared and holding a trigger to the rear is an almost natural defensive instinct for those of us comfortable with firearms. So while I don't think the scenario would play out exactly as you portrayed it, it would definitely end with a dead nog in your house.

I've done two Afghanistan deployments, one as a machine gunner and one as a sniper. As a machine gunner you usually can't tell if you killed somebody because you're usually pretty far away or they're trying to hide in some kind of vegetation. It was pretty easy to kill someone this way, didn't feel a lot of regret and you roll up on their body for a BDA and you're just like oh look another dead hajji bob. No big deal right.

But as a sniper you're getting really up close and personal with the guys you're killing. Especially as a spotter with a 40x optic you can see guys facial expressions and watch them go down as your shooter puts him down. Or watching the same people go in and out of a building every day, seeing their every move, watching them smile, blink, etc. and then dropping a 500 lb bomb on their house and wiping them off the face of the earth. That stuff fucked with me for a while, but not as much as some of my buddies who had to kill 15 year old kids.

So I think it depends on the situation but my point is most people with experience in firearms are gonna be able to take another mans life to defend their own.
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>>139971476
Pic related is what is needed to get rid of cucks like OP.
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>>139971483
>Let us play russian roulette with this random criminal
Notice how it's always some dumb ass upper middle class white guilt hipster living in a gated community surrounded by private police with a low crime rate preaching tolerance for criminals.

I bet you're one of the spawn of the idiots who wanted to release that violent psychopath the birdman because he was really good with birds.
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