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aren't you fags the biggest leftist cucks in europe?

>>139890962
they are Spain, not Sweden,

>>139891142
He actually might be right. But that's something that can start changing as we become a country =)

>>139889849
Looks like a decent route for deporting migrants

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>>139891716
>catalans
>deporting migrants

>>139889849
come home iberian man

>>139891349

The only thing that will start is the purge of all you traitors.

>>139889849
You'll be a caliphate before you ever become independent

>>139892608
Shut up we've more right than you to be a country

>>139892942
Just stay with Spain and gas all your commies

>>139893496
Absolutely not, staying would imply the end of catalan culture at long term. It's not just about muh moneyz as some say

Even if you vote yes (which looks unlikely) the central government is just gonna crush you

>>139894575
Yep, if that happens we can only hope that Spain, as a supposed first world democracy (which isn't), is pressured by other countries/international organizations to accept people's will

>>139889849
Quick rundown?

>>139889849
time to sack greece again??

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I can't let that do that, David Rodriguez.

>>139889849
Why wouldn't people support independence movements in general? This helps preserve local cultures and resolves political strife when people can operate independent and autonomously. I don't know enough about this situation to comment on the particulars, but I'd say its a good idea more or less, good luck amigos.

>>139898105
There's an independence referendum on 1 october

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>>139890962
The first post

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>>139898932
Fuck off fingolian

>>139898673
Catalans are majors SJWs. They want to import every nigger imaginable into Europe. If they secede from Spain I hope they alteast block their EU membership.

>>139899568
Kek, saved!

>>139890962
They had a protest yesterday where they were literally saying: " Refugees IN, spaniards OUT!"

That's what 20+ years of autonomic nationalistic education&tv will do to your compatriots.

I'm ok with them leaving... they think they will fullfil utopia or jerk off over their Aragonese mighty past only to become a banana republic ruled by the biggest leftist scum you can find on europe. As of today, if they leave I want to build a WALL to contain them... and ANDORRA WILL PAY FOR IT

>>139899568
u and c are the same man

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>>139900075
>They had a protest yesterday where they were literally saying: " Refugees IN, spaniards OUT!"
>That's what 20+ years of autonomic nationalistic education&tv will do to your compatriots.

Both untrue. I agree with you that having education increases separatism rates though

>>139900495
https://twitter.com/marubimo/status/903683439609643008

Take a look, amigo. A ver si es que no escucho bien.

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>That's what 20+ years of autonomic nationalistic education&tv will do to your compatriots.

Both untrue. I agree with you that having education increases separatism rates though
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I don't understand this greentext. It looks like you are saying exactly the same thing afterwards?!

>>139900826
Ok, your proof is that video of a rally of radical antifas shouting "spaniards no refugees yes" as an insult to a rally of fascists that's just in front of them. Untrue then as I said.

And I'm saying that having education increases separatism rates as it's the logical thing to do, there's very few reasons to be against it and most of them are emotional ones

>>139901474
>a rally of fascists that's just in front of them

I doubt it. Even so, you can keep all that scum for yourselves.

As for the other thing, why did you say then "both untrue"? As far as I know, I think we are in agreement over the role of state education.

>>139901985
I don't understand your doubt, you're saying the catalan education is nationalistic and I'm saying that is a lie, the same answer you'll get from every catalan that's not affiliated to certain political parties.

Also the video is as I say, they cutted that part as propaganda. The other rally was obviously shouting "refugees no, spaniards yes".

>>139902583
Where is the heat coming from them? Spontaneous combustion? Or are you going to arge that there was no change in catalan-spanish relations in the last 20-30 years?

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>>139889849
Weren't the almogávares a bunch of mercenaries with a little contribution on the long fallen of Constantinople?
Thanks for nothing.

>>139898932
surprisingly accurate

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>>139889849


HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, YOU FUCKED A QATARI IN THE ASS. THE BALLS ON THIS TREACHEROUS CATALAN PIG.

> CALL IN THE EARL OF LEICESTER WE HAVE SOME ALBIGENSIANS TO CRUSADE

>>139898932
>Guerra de carreras
My sides...

>>139889849
Catalonia will be a Caliphate within a month if allowed independence.

>>139903516
There's a bunch of reasons, almost all of them from the last 10 years. Nationalism doesn't and has never existed in Catalonia, both spanish and catalan nationalism has always been very minor.

Make no mistake, if people wants to become a new country is not for muh feelings, it's because they feel things will be better that way.

>>139898673

Because the established order may not have agents in place able to subvert a newly formed government and bring it to heel.

Better to undermine all independence movements, even the ones whose ideologies might be in line with the establishment's agenda, rather than risk an uncontrolled state entering the playing field.