What is /pol/'s opinion on euthanasia?

>>139876913
only for jews.

If it's just going to be years of pain and futile therapies give me the gun

>>139876913
Yup. If i want to kill myself i don't want to throw myself in front of a fucking train, upsetting my friends and family, instead of getting myself a letal injection with all my friends there. The government can provide this for me. That's what's freedom is like.

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>>139876913
>100% free
fuck off commie

>>139876913
NATURAL SELECTION. KILL all retards, people with brain fuck ups, drug addicts, people who can't figure out how to use a fucking lighter. GEEEAWD! People spend millions of dollars on saving the lives of retards, and why. I don't buy that shit like "oh hes my son though!" so the fuck what, he ain't normal, kill him, put him out his misery. He is only a waste of time and money, then people say "But he is worth the time, he is human too" no he isn't, if he was then he would swallow a bullet cause he would realize what a fucking waste and burden he was.

>>139877045
That's a given.
>>139877228
>>139877882
Exactly my thoughts.

>>139877228
>The government can provide this for me. That's what's freedom is like.
Literally the dumbest shit I've ever read here

"There’s no such thing as brain death; it’s an invention of transplant medicine." -Professor Franco Rest

What they aren’t telling you is that your organs must be alive when they take them out of you. Even a master surgeon won’t be able to bring dead organs back to life. If transplanted into a living body, they won’t start functioning again either. So your body is just as alive, just as functional, as it was before your brain stopped working. “That means organ removal is a form of murder!” you cry out, appalled. Yes. That’s exactly what it is.
And that’s what it was, until the day in 1968 when a commission at Harvard University decided that there is such a thing as ‘brain death’, a state from which the patient can never recover, finding themselves in an irreversible coma. The basis for this decision lay in the heart transplants first carried out by the South African Christiaan Barnard on December 3rd 1967. They naturally entailed taking a living, beating heart from an accident victim or someone in the final stages of illness, and therefore killing them.

The patient is normally tightly strapped down during all of this, because the living body rises up and tries to defend itself against the outrage being inflicted on it. An anaesthetist injects muscle relaxants into the body; in Switzerland they go so far as to administer a general anaesthetic. The German Organ Transplantation Foundation recommends the use of fentanyl, an artificial opiate, “to optimise the surgical procedure”. Fentanyl is around one hundred times stronger than morphine. Food for thought! A rise in blood pressure, pulse and adrenalin can all be measured in these supposedly dead bodies: during normal operations, these would all be seen as unambiguous signs of pain and distress.

Even the methods used to diagnose ‘brain death’ cause unnecessary, even inhuman pain to people who are not really dead, and therefore still sensitive to pain. These include pricking the inside of the nose, irritating the cornea using a blunt object, exerting firm pressure on the eyeball, pouring ice-cold water into the ear canals, and irritating the bronchi with a catheter. Sometimes, medical staff go so far as to conduct an angiography, 2 which in living donors can lead to anaphylactic shock resulting in death.

Last of all comes the respiratory failure (apnoea) test. The doctors switch off artificial ventilation and observe whether a breathing reflex sets in in the next four to ten minutes. If that doesn’t happen (in the meantime, oxygen is being fed directly into the trachea), the patient is declared to be ‘brain dead’.

But not really dead, as transplantation specialist Werner Hanne stresses in his writings. He explains: “When it comes to ‘organ production’, the apnoea test is the riskiest: the patient must not ‘really die’ during this test (circulatory collapse). If this happens, resuscitation will be attempted if necessary. If the apnoea test proves negative, i.e. there is no spontaneous respiration, then the two doctors present, by means of their signatures and a date and time, transform a patient who was alive up until that moment into a ‘corpse’ from whom organs can be removed.”

“If the patient still isn’t brain dead after all these tests (for example if respiration restarts), then it’s just their hard luck having had to go through this torture twice. The patient is then regarded as a ‘normal’ coma patient again. However, the tests will be repeated at a later date. And the time of death is perfectly flexible. If one weekend, for example, no one is available who is qualified to diagnose brain death, then the assessment of death will be correspondingly postponed. The paradox: the heart-lung machine saves the patient, two signatures kill them.”

All the more horrifying, then, that on many occasions, ‘brain dead’ patients have come back to life

This had been picked up on by public prosecutors in several countries, who made a case for wilful killing. Something had to be done otherwise legal constraints would put a stop to organ transplantation. So it came to be that – in hospital – a human being is no longer dead when their pulse and respiration have ceased once and for all, rigor mortis and livor mortis have set in, and spirit and soul have visibly left the body. Instead, it is when the brain ceases to function. According to the doctors, this is the point at which the warm, breathing, heart-still-beating body can be wheeled into the operating theatre – to be taken apart with scalpel, saw, hammer and chisel. Blood shoots out in high fountains, and to quieten the still-living organism, 15 litres of ice-cold water are poured as quickly as possible into the torso. The organs are then cut out one by one.

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/136725141/

>>139876913
d66 shill get the fuck out

The problem with euthanasia is that old people in hospitals get this option thrown at them, which causes them to believe they are unwanted and they might opt out of life on the wrong basis

we should instead incentivize people to take care of their elderly instead of having people put in homes

>>139878495
Implying that they aren't unwanted?

>>139879216
that's a terrible way to look at life

>>139876913
If someone wants to die, why would they go through years of therapy and torture when they can just drink bleach, cut jugular, etc

>>139879454
It's mostly their own fault though. They chose either not to have children or raise their children to be individualistic.

Also if you are weak enough to be coerced into suicide, you kinda deserve it desu.

>>139879874
you're a disgusting human being, and a clear example of what is wrong in dutch politics

>>139880082
You're the retard restricting my freedom to kill myself in peace

>>139876913
I don't care, people who want to kill themselves are either weak minded pussies or terminally ill. Terminally ill shouldn't have to suffer and the weak minded pussies shouldn't make the world suffer so both should be allowed to. In fact I think we should encourage euthanasia for the mentally ill and drug addicts honestly seeing as both are drains on everyone.

>>139880234
you can still kill yourself, retard

all you need is alcohol and sleeping pills

>>139880234
How can someone stop you from killing yourself?

>>139876913
But euthanasia violates the NAP

>>139880082
I think of the greater good. These people drag down our overall worth. Politicians should adhere this.

Let me guess you also want more refugees? You voted SP?

>>139880403
They're restricting me from dying in front of my friends and family. If i take a legal injection in front of my family they're going to jail.

>>139876913
Not sure about the details like free or not, but def pro. People who don't have to deal with chronic pain can fuck right off.

>>139880510
You can go blow your brains out in front of your family right now if you're really that greedy of a person. Nobody is stopping you.

>>139880447
"these people" are a part of our people
one day you will be a part of "these people"

and no i didn't vote for a commie party, where did that fucking come from

>>139880510
>wanting to traumatize your family like that

just take some fucking pills and die in your sleep, idiot

>>139880632
Why would i want to lay that burden on my family?

>>139880718
The moment i become weak enough and lonely enough that suicide is a viable option. By al means please end it. Anyone with an ounce of self respect should do the same.

>>139876913
At least half of the people who are against it because they think that's a conservative thing to do, will be begging for it when their time comes. That's all I have to say on this topic, gl.

>>139880772
I have no idea, maybe you're mentally ill. Should talk to a shrink m8, I'm just pointing out that you can kill yourself anytime you want and you can do it in front of your family if you're the much of a narcissist, force them to watch you die if that's really what you want.

>>139880908
do it yourself

>>139881145
That's why we need euthanasia completely legalized and easy to do.

>>139881046
Why would i want them to watch me blow my brains out? That's a trauma they'll never forget.

>>139881247
It's already easy to kill yourself you coward, why haven't you done it yet? Too scared to do it yourself? Imagine being that much of a failure at life kek

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>>139876913
You stop suffering and lay it on the shoulders of people who love you. I'm not a religious nut but I'm an anti-narcissist-nut. Do it yourself.

>>139881247
the law isn't preventing you from buying some sleeping pills and alcohol, you moron

there's a myriad of ways of killing yourself that the law can't stop. what you're advocating for is doctor's killing old patients after convincing them it's the right way to go and that's fucking disgusting

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>>139876913

>>139881046
He clearly means that dying in bed with people you love and making the choice with them is less traumatic for them than blowing your brains out in the attic.

How do you not get this?

>>139881315
Why would you want them to watch you die at all? So you can feel special watching them cry as you die?

If you want kill yourself do it yourself coward.

>>139876913
Yes please.

>>139881396
What if i'm not in the position to do these things?
Sleeping pills and alcohol also don't guarantee a clean safe painless death.

Plenty of people want to end it but their isn't a viable option to do it. The government should provide this.

>>139881497
I do get it and I think it's hilarious and pathetic. Imagine being so much of a pussy that you want to kill yourself but you won't do it alone because you're too special for that. I would be happy if you and the other pussy ate a bullet right now but you won't because you're cowards who need mama there to comfort you.

>>139881518
No, most people actually really prefer it to be with their relatives when they die instead of them jumping in front of a train?

>>139881786
That's pretty greedy wanting to force your relatives to watch you die. Just go kill yourself right now pussy.

>>139881757
That's a very selfish way to die. As an empathetic person i want to lessen the trauma they will endure as much as i can.

You are either completely autistic or a full blown psychopath if you don't understand this.

>>139876913
I think it should be banned if you are over 21 since you are too valuable to society at that point. You have a long work life but you just used up states resources in schooling.

>>139881145
You can't do it yourself.

>>139881905
Holy kill yourself you pathetic edgelord

No one wants their friend to jump in front of a train but rather be with them in their last moment

>>139881748
>What if i'm not in the position to do these things?
how the fuck would you not be in the position to take some alcohol and some pills, but you would be in a position to sign a euthanization form?

>Sleeping pills and alcohol also don't guarantee a clean safe painless death.
they do if you're old and weak

you're just coming up with very bad excuses to defend your position. you are either dishonest about your true intentions, or you are are indoctrinated

>Plenty of people want to end it but their isn't a viable option to do it. The government should provide this.
fuck off communist fuck

>>139882104
literally nothing is stopping you

>>139882210
Yeah, it's impossible for one man to kill himself without help.

>>139882157
TAKE THE FUCKING PILLS YOU IDIOT

DEATH DOESN'T HAVE TO BE VIOLENT

HOLY SHIT HOW MANY TIMES DO YOU NEED ME TO SAY THIS

>>139882056
Want to lessen the trauma, go in the woods and do it alone you attentionwhore. I'm not a psychopath, I'm just tired of you suicidal pussies. Kill yourself or stfu, you're worse attention whores than women.

>I can't kill myself unless it's legal and a doctor does it because the last thing I want to see before I die is my family mourning

Seriously, put up or shut up. People need to stop kissing your asses.

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>>139882291
What did he meme by this?

>>139882295
TAKING PILLS IN FRONT OF YOUR FRIENDS GET YOUR FRIENDS IN PRISON YOU RETARD

>>139882157
I would love for you to jump in front of a train. You won't though because you're a coward. I'm sorry I'm not feeding into your narcissism like everyone else does. Maybe if you're parents had treated you like a man we wouldn't be having this conversation.

>>139876913
Suicide should be stigmatized, not legitimized in laws. Same as abortion.

>>139882444
>wanting your friends to see you die

that's fucking disgusting, why would you want to traumatize your friends like that?

>>139882444
You're really good at making excuses. Go talk to a therapist faggot, you obviously don't want to die.

>>139882344
Too old to visit the store but not old enough to write. Like the average 85yo?
>>139882167
I'm not suicidal. I think euthanasia is an effective way to cull the "herd".

>>139882664
Because he's a narcissist.

>>139882688
>I think euthanasia is an effective way to cull the "herd"

I know, which is why I called you a disgusting human being

>>139882600
Abortion should be enforced. You want all these niggers to get more babies? What is wrong with you.

>>139882677
Lol i don't want to die you retard

Other people do want to die and do it in front of their friends to spare them from terrible sadness and tragedy

>>139882372
>can't move arms
>can't move legs
>can't even not breath due to ventilator
>somehow can kill himself

>>139882688
If you're 85 and can't figure out how to kill yourself you're a fucking idiot. 85 year olds have plenty of top class drugs to go out on. I'm glad America doesn't kill off it's elderly.

>>139882847
abortion is murder you psychopath

just deport all non european foreigners, don't kill their babies that's disgusting and cruel


>>139882870
so you can't sign a euthanasia consent form?
great way to kill your own argument, faggot

>>139882866
Those other people should realize nobody wants to watch them die unless they hate the person. Terminally ill are the only ones who should get assisted suicide. Coward should have to do it themselves alone.

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>>139877228
>The government can provide this for me.
>That's what's freedom is like.

>>139883032
No because euthanasia is ILLEGAL!

Way to lose an argument loser.

>>139882798
>>139883032
All unwanted people should be removed with most extreme force. I'm glad politicians are getting to see this.

You can namecall all you want but a good person looks after the well being of the group not the individual.

>>139883285
>kill people in your own group
>"guys i'm just looking after the group"

you're mentally retarded and a complete psychopath

>>139883072
Lol complete nonsense, everyone of the families of the (mostly) terminally ill people that eventually kills themself in those situations actually want to spend their last moments with their loved ones

>>139876913
Guess (((who)))'s pushing it?

>>139883393
Only the unwanted ones should be killed.
Can you give me 1 argument based on facts not feeling?

>>139883438
That's why I specifically said terminally ill people should be allowed assisted suicide.

>>139883574
the term "unwanted" is based on feelings and you tell me to give you an argument based on facts

you're not as clever as you think you are

>>139883574
>unwanted

Who decides who is unwanted and what makes someone unwanted?

Pretty slippery slope.

>>139876913

if they wanna die they can kill them selves right?
why burden some poor overworked doctor with becoming an angel of death.

fucking psychopath you are. worse than niggers.

>>139883769
You clearly know which term i'm referring to when i say "unwanted". You also didn't answer my question.

>>139883723
I'm ok with that, i don't think anybody should just be allowed to kill themselves because they feel depressed

>>139884016
Because thats impossible

>>139884053
>You clearly know
no i don't faggot, i can't place myself in the shoes of an actual psychopath

>euthanasia becomes legal
>half of lgbt and many illegals start paperwork with no intent of going through with it
>Huffpo: "BLUMPF MAKES EVERYONE WANT TO DIE OMG!"

That's exactly what would happen much more than people with terminal diseases choosing to go out on their own terms and you fucking know I'm right.

>>139884105
Yeah I was thinking we were in agreement

>>139884344
1 hint WW2 and a certain bright man with a funny moustache. You clearly didn't pay any attention during history class?

>>139883769
All this people are morons. I use to worry we would have a second civil war, and after reading this and Daily STORMER i'VE COME TO REALIZE ONE THING, YOU GUYS ARE A BUNCH OF FUCKING MORONS!

>>139884532
why are you so scared of just saying "jews"

>>139876913
>No doctor should be forced to practice it if he/she doesn't want to.
>No one should be suggesting it to you or trying to influence you in any way.
>You should be able to opt in for it if you decide so on your own terms.
It's that simple, idk what the fuss is about.

>>139884623
fuck off boomer

>>139884643
Do you truly believe we are anonymous here?

I think if you make euthanasia easy and legal in Europe, the white population would skydive even more

>>139884724
gas the jews
all niggers must hang

what the fuck are you scared of you dumb faggot

>>139876913
>What is /pol/'s opinion on euthanasia?
mandatory for jews, arabs and black people

>>139884724
You really going to let Jew rats control you that much?

>>139884724
The amount of stupidity in this place never stops growing, every new red pill fat turd living in his mothers basement, hating on white woman (the same females they require to maintain their dna in the game), the happier I am. You guys are creating your own destruction, and 4chan has a live record of it. I FUCKING LOVE IT, YOU GUYS ARE SO FUCKING STUPID YOU DON'T EVEN REALIZE IT.

>>139884724
You think tip toeing around the subject and saying it straight up have any difference?
If you're being monitored they'll know regardless of how you say it

>>139884951
Triggered roastie.

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>>139884963
But you are very fucking stupid, that you are!

>>139885112
No one here cares about alphabet agencies knowing who we are.

>>139885112
So you doubt the fact that they'll get what you're saying no matter how you say it?
These people must be bad at their spy job

My favorite part about the anonymity is that you guys believe your numbers are large, LOL. Fucking idiots how do you even fucking know. The same attitude in daily stormer, LOL, I know more people with troll accounts for daily stormer than anyone who even really reads of believes any of the shit you guys keep echoing. You know why nothing happens with your theories, cause they are all fabricated by a troll that loves to see retarded people like you morons run in fear.

It took 25 minutes to find a video of a random car accident near the president, to make you fucking idiots believe it was an assassination attempt.

You pussy bigots need Viagra! We are even tracking your IPs. Is not fucking rocket science.

>>139884845
>>139884950
>>139884963
I know a few people in my personal surroundings that have had visits from some "agencies" about their online "behavior".

If you think this doesn't happen you are extremely gullible.

>>139885688
I never said it doesn't happen, I'm saying you can't hide what you're trying to say by using different words or some shit

>>139885688
hahahahhaaha

nigger i've been shitposting for years, even publicly on facebook and fucking nothing has happened

this isn't germany or the UK where the thought police will get you for saying a bad thing

You guys think you are fabricating this large convoluted Social Engineering and manipulation schemes and you can't even recognize when it's happening to you. You can't get together for a rally without being driven out of town. You are no one!

>>139885901
The way you word things has significant impact in court.
>>139885980
You aren't from a big city.

>>139886119
>You aren't from a big city.
i've been living in amsterdam my whole life actually

>>139876913
Bullshit. Remember this?
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2017/02/03/doctor-forcibly-euthanized-resisting-patient-cleared-dutch-court/

Eventually doctors will be killing depressed kids.

You spoof the server ports, you keep an accurate log of all the ips trafficking the site, you scrape 4chan to match post and ips by time, you speculate about double post (which is done by building a profile of words utilize by all ips), there is 1,456 unique IPs on /pol right now!

>>139886461
stop shitposting you stupid faggot, nobody cares

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>>139876913
I like the youth in Asian.

>>139885688
hakankerwel

>>139886710
pedophile scum. kill yourself

Tor is a little more difficult but not impossible. You have to follow a similar path the FBI took when they took down Silk Road. You have to frequent the site yourself, while scanning and building a profile of its proxy network, this will deliver a list of several servers that may or may not host parts or the entirety of the site, from here you begin to spoof the traffic, if you are smart or the fbi, you become part of the path either by a man in the midle attack from one of the proxy servers, or by adding your own proxy dns server and ddosing servers on the path of the end location. Then you rinse and repeat. Spoof ports, gather ips, and math post!

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>>139886820
The legal age in Japan in 14.

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>>139886643
Awww is it hurting your feelings that we are tracking you? Awwwwwwwww, I though only liberals cry. What kinda of flag is that? Whom can I contact with your IP that would come and wash your potty mouth.

If we can track you, so can they!

>>139882344
>>139881757
Wow, you're a major-league retard. It's not about "can you kill yourself?" Obviously everyone can, buildings are tall. The question is, if you have to die for some reason or another (like opting out of a life of suffering), why shouldn't you have the option to do it somewhere and sometime that's "safe" and monitored by your friends and loved ones so that they aren't left with a lasting mental scar that you suddenly went missing and never came back.

Do you think your parents ever stop looking for you? No, they don't. So if you just walk off into the woods and drink yourself to death, you've caused more suffering to your family than the suffering you personally would've experienced by just staying alive and dealing with the pain.

It's not about "needing mama to comfort you," it's about trying not to destroy your families lives in the process, its literally the exact opposite as what you said. It's "comforting your mama before you die," and I can't imagine a single thing wrong with that.

Get your priorities straightened out.

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>>139878219
Bampin because of the extreme importance of what you're posting, good job brother

>>139886643
Wow thanks bigot, you just gave me a wonderful idea. I was having a bit of problem distinguishing among post made at the same time. As ID tags exist in memory and not statically, but the flag icons are there permanently. This should make things a lot easier.

>>139887119
legal age in japan is 13

>>139887550
>being this fucking brain dead

m8, going out "safe" is easy. just od on some sleeping pills and drink half a bottle of whiskey to make sure it kills

you won't go missing either, you'll be found eventually in your bed

>>139887748
you are really fucking stupid

>>139882496
The drivel you spew in this thread is awful.
>someone arguing to get a lethal injection and die
>pfff faggot, why won't you jump in front of a train and inconvinience everyone, not to mention traumatizing your family and everyone at the train station, you coward

It's like you don't have a family or anyone who cares about you. It's like you are 100% selfish in your ideals, but you've spent this thread calling other people selfish for wanting to ease the burden of their death on their relatives.

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>>139887794
oh yeah, got my numbers mixed up.

>>139887869
>not to mention traumatizing your family

you mean like forcing them to watch you die?

>>139887847
So your parents finding out via a phonecall from the hospital that you're suddenly dead is better than talking to them about your options and deciding together that it's what you want to do under a doctor's supervision?

>>139887978
Not forcing them, but if you have to die, why not have it be clean and having the option of family? Have you ever had to have your pet put down? All they want in their final moments is to be loved and pet by their owners. Wouldn't you want to be there for your pet? Your family and friends feel the same way if they really care about you.

>>139887847
Please continue posting here, the more you post the easier it is for my code to develop a profile. The ultimate goal is to store all this data, and in the future unleash a campaign of Social Engineering in which we fool you guys into using a ton of our apps, and websites in what you will consider a resurgence of white supremacist only to be met with your identity being reveal to everyone. We will be able to prove without a doubt, and match you to your facebook, email employer etc, uncover who you are to everyone. We know you feel safe in here and that time is coming to an end real soon. So please keep at it, you are only making our weekend!

The best part about this is that is already happening, and all of you completely dismiss me as some troll. You guys are fucking stupid!

>>139888171
both options are terrible, because losing someone is terrible
you're not going to feel any better because whoever it is that died told you about it beforehand, that makes no sense

plus, if you're so weak or terminally ill that you want to kill yourself, then your loved ones will already expect you to die anyway

>people are like pets
you're out of your fucking mind


>>139888439
what makes you think that i'm hiding irl?

>>139888607
Because you are hiding in the internet "anonymous"

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It should be available for everyone who wants it. If they want to die they are weak, which means that they have no scope in life and that they can go.
Also if I went paralyzed or severely deformed, I would choose to kill myself. Since I couldn't do it by myself, I should have the right to choose when to die.

>>139888607
>plus, if you're so weak or terminally ill that you want to kill yourself, then your loved ones will already expect you to die anyway

Obviously. This is why you should have the option of a painless doctor assisted suicide. Your family KNOWS you have to die. Why not have it be easy and painless?

If your argument is people should just jump in front of a bus or taking excessive pills because that's what "strong willed people do" when they want to die, then I simply disagree. If I have to die because of a medical condition that would result in endless agony for me, why shouldn't I be allowed to let it happen in the most comfortable way possible?

If you are really dying, all your family wants to do is make the remainder of your life as good as it can be. Do you think they'll have a clear concious if you just kys? No. They'll be thinking about what they could've done better or different for the rest of their lives, maybe even killing themselves over it.

If you think that is somehow better than talking to doctors, your family, your loved ones, etc, and coming to the decision as a group rather than just offing yourself one day, I simply can't agree with you, I'm sorry.

This is why you bigots are hilarious. You hate women, you want to die, and you accept no help. You are fucking cursed!

478 unique IPs currently on 4chan. What happened guys? Where did you bigots go?

>>139890152
Might want to re-calibrate your autism scanner amigo. This site gets millions in traffic every day.

>>139890233
LOL your perception of 4chan is hilarious. They do not, I am currently only counting IPs, as my code matches /pol users. Regardless, NO, 4chan is not what it use to be, shit /pol has dropped about 55 thousand users in the last 3 weeks. Another trend we see is the quick turn around. Only the real hardcore continues to come back, about 22% of the IPs we have gather in the past 7 months return, mind you we account for dynamic ips (the profiles are amazing I wish you could see them), the rest they never come back. Probably because you guys hate so much you hate each other and yourself, but thats just wisdom, nothing technical about your self destruction.

>>139890974
There's no doubt /pol/'s traffic has gone down in unique posters a bit, since the massive shilling and sliding only comes from a few select IPs and accounts for a large portion of the catalogue, but you're beyond mad if you think we have less than 500 active people on atm. You can look online, it's not some big secret; last month this site reached just over 2 million unique views over the course of the month- a number that has been steadily rising over the last year.

Also, what's my IP? :D

>>139891260
It is going to take hours to figure out who you are among the average 43 post per second. But I will know who you are. And yes, there is only 621 unique IPs currently using /pol. I know I am the crazy troll, please dismiss me, but keep posting :p

>>139891260
I like to aggregate that 4chan blows up their numbers. No reason for me to lie. This is due to the perception among the general public that 4chan is full of bigots and child molesters. I AM SURE YOU ARE PROUD OF THAT BIGOT!

>>139891625
>It is going to take hours to figure out who you
So your vague bullshit in this thread is worth nothing; you can't even back up your threat. People in this thread other than myself have and will continue to ignore you for being the "crazy troll" that you claim to be.

>>139891881
>bigot
You guys stand out so much, even without your stupid nametag.

>>139892198
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Yes, now run to the other 657 users and tell them about my stupidity and bring them here. DO IT BITCH I DARE YOU.

This is working out better than I though. I tell them I am running a Social Engineering scheme. Then I tell them how I am doing it. Then I remind them that I am going to fool them into doing something, and then they dismiss me and continue doing exactly what I want them to do, in exactly the same fashion I already told them I would do it.

>>139892332
Even if everything you were saying is completely true- everyone is being logged to be unmasked- do you think that's a threat? Do you think anyone really cares? Do you think you alone have the capability to do what you're doing? Do you think you're the first? The last?

You're pissing in an ocean of piss, welcome aboard. Now, your obnoxious replies are getting to be an eyesore (spamming "LOLOL" and all that) so I'm gonna add you to my filter, good luck with your psyop.

>>139876913
Sign me up

>>139877882
Nice pasta retard

>>139876913
We have it in Switzerland and there are many euthanasia tourists. I am not against it

They can see me typing to you on the chat, board, but they can't see your reply, that is due to the chrome extension that is helping on scrapping 4chan. We have 3 layers, and we are following the same moves as the FBI did to catch the pedo's. We do need to start an effort on Twitch I agree. Matching this bigots to their streams and exposing them specially when it is a big name, that's the goal. Hurt them in their wallets.

Notice I don't have a captcha o.O, this site is a fucking joke!

>>139889092
>If your argument is people should just jump in front of a bus or taking excessive pills because that's what "strong willed people do" when they want to die

that's not my argument

and taking pills is not uncomfortable at all

Nope, ban hammers do not apply, captchas do not apply, we do need admin control, nothing too crazy, silence would be cool, anything that frustrates!

You found a better thread, send me the link on IRC and I'll scan there.

>>139893599
What is your argument then?
If you're going to take pills, why not take the kind a doctor gives you with the explicit intent of killing you? I've seen a few people who have tried to kill themselves with pills and didn't do it properly, basically destroying their body and mind but not killing them- the worst part is they are regretful afterwards, talking to family and doctors in advance might have prevented it.

So if you're just going to OD on meds for an 'easy death' why not have the option of taking meds specifically designed for that purpose, under the supervision of medical staff and potentially family who ensure you go off into the night as peacefully as possible (for the sake of you and your family).

If you want to kill yourself just kill yourself

Pretty sure you can will yourself to death

>>139893930
>What is your argument then?
read the fucking thread before you post

You need to echo the ./stop-4ch.sh on the bot channel. Then restart the script > echo ./start-4c.sh and when you see the asterisk (*) copy and past the link. Don't leave the bot channel until you see a PID on the channel.

>>139894047
>Pretty sure you can will yourself to death
I don't know, the monks had to set themselves on fire and if anyone could will themselves to do anything I imagine it would be them.

>>139894136
Well it seems to be
"Just take pills bro"
but then you didn't rebuttal anything I said about taking pills either clinically or alone. If you could clarify, I'd like to continue this chat.

>>139876913
I like it. It should be mandatory for every white male with an IQ under 110, every female with an IQ under 90, and every nonwhite male.

We need the PID to log the output. That way we have the firebase database, and secondary more "raw" log. Don't want to risk loosing anything.

>>139876913
Stop the breeding, sterilize or implicitly sterilize (via non-breeder lifestyle) Jewish women specifically, men it doesn't matter as much mathematically.

>>139894743
such a faggot

>>139894148

you dont need to will it you can even lose will for life

>>139895366
Very true, I understand what you mean. It's just a very slow process!

>>139894225
read this >>139878495

you have the view that as long as the hospital and family is involved everything is going to be fine. you are assuming that everyone that will be euthanized, will truly want it

that's not how it goes in the real world. look at >>139886256
someone was murdered and the murderer is free because it's seen as "euthanization"

if someone wants to die, it is their own responsibility to end it. when you legalize institutions killing people, you end up with murder

>>139895823
Just because the system isn't great doesn't mean we should abolish it completely. As the guy from Switzerland said above, people are flocking to his country just because they want to die in peace.

Think about that, a person who is nearly a corpse has to fly across Europe just for a comfortable death- the kind of death they and their family have agreed they want.

I never said we shouldn't regulate the hell out of doctor assisted suicide- of course we should. It's legalized death, so it's going to need the most oversight of any medical procedure possible.

Why shouldn't people have access to drugs specifically designated to kill them rather than trying to OD on street drugs or cough medicine, especially if they've already made up their mind to die.

>>139896250
>Just because the system isn't great doesn't mean we should abolish it completely

the system isn't "great"???

that's like saying the death penalty should be reinstated even though innocent people die some times because "oh well, gotta crack a few eggs if you want to make an omelet, right lads?"

you're fucking insane, we're talking about people's lives here

>>139896250
>Why shouldn't people have access to drugs specifically designated to kill them rather than trying to OD on street drugs or cough medicine, especially if they've already made up their mind to die.

I would be completely ok with companies selling "suicide pills" as long as they advertise them as such and have a ton of labels on them to make sure people don't mistakenly buy it

I just don't want institutions involved, because there would be plenty of people in nursing homes etc trying to goad old people into suicide

>>139896902
It's a tragedy, no doubt there. It shouldn't have happened but-

>>139897128
Actually I totally agree with you here. I think someone should have the option to go peacefully (ala a suicide pill) and I understand your concerns about getting companies - and especially money involved.

>>139897391
and then my point would be: sleeping pills already exist. there is no pressing need for suicide pills

the problem isn't that there is no way to peacefully go at the end of your life, the problem is people are too stupid to figure out how to do it

>>139897565
See I completely disagree with you there. Look at the lethal injection, it's a 3 part medicine specifically designed to kill a person in the most humane way possible, and still it reacts badly to the occasional person's body and it results in a ton of pain. Suicide by sleeping pills is an even bigger risk at even worse pain, there's a reason they don't just give sleeping pills to death row convicts, even though it would be way cheaper.

>>139897868
death row convicts aren't terminally ill or extremely weak and old

don't compare the two

>>139898062
Why does that matter? They are both want to die in the most humane way possible. So it's cool if death row convicts get grade-A treatment, but the average normal person should just chug some Tylenol?

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>>139876913
A lot of them are a bunch of weak queers.

>>139898256
>the average normal person

the average normal person wouldn't be euthanized you fucknugget

terminally ill and weak and old people who feel like they're dying and want to go out without pain, aren't going to survive a sleeping pill OD

>>139898515
Why do you want to put them through that though? Just because they are fragile and near-death, that we shouldn't care how humane it is? We have the technology, the medicine is just sitting at the hospital right now. Yet people are traveling to Switzerland and other places, hundreds of thousands of miles from home,just to get that very same medicine.

Why shouldn't they be allowed to have it? Why OD on a drug that's designed to help you sleep, instead of taking the drug that's designed to do the thing you want- offer you a clean, easy, peaceful death?

I don't understand why you think taking random sleeping medication until you OD is preferable over a drug designed for this exact purpose.

>>139876913
Not a single person alive today could have asked to exist, and chances are they wouldn't ask to live anywhere on Earth if they existed in some form beforehand.

If we must be dragged kicking and screaming into this world, then it should be reasonable to allow us to leave when we see fit. The cost of the operation (which is marginal at best) should fall upon the society that provoked the birth to take place.

We might see a surprising number of 3rd worlders opting for the procedure, as their lives otherwise usually consist of being raped or contemplating rape.

>>139898872
>we shouldn't care how humane it is? We have the technology, the medicine is just sitting at the hospital right now

what? what's so inhumane about taking a bunch of sleeping pills and closing your eyes forever?

>>139899095
Have you ever seen anyone OD on sleeping pills? Or anything for that matter? It's not pleasant- not to mention vomiting up the pills and everything else. If you try to OD on sleeping pills, you're much more likely to die from choking on your own vomit in a sleep-paralysis state with no way to signal anyone that you're experiencing the most horrible and slow death possible.

Cutting out the potential hazards- this is why doctor assisted suicide should be legal. If someone is going to kill themselves,they should at least have a guaranteed way of doing it risk free.

>>139876913
Being able to kill yourself without government interference is the purest form of personal sovereignty.
>America claims to be free
>There are laws against suicide
>The government punishes you if you fail at killing yourself

>>139899608
>punishments for failed suicides
...what? Like forced psychotherapy? Or actual fines and stuff?

>>139876913
but its more money to provide pills for the sick instead of having them just kill themselves.

>>139883092
> at most a $1000 one-time expense
Really? It isn't as though they're going to keep coming back. This is the "selection" part of natural selection - let an individual's behavior select against their continuation. We'll be left only with those with an actual interest in living.

>>139888439
Go ahead. When everyone is revealed as a Nazi, then well, everyone is revealed as a Nazi...

>>139899728
Its treated somewhat like attempted murder of one-self, except the "victim" is institutionalized in a sanitarium instead of a prison.

>>139899519
that's complete fucking bullshit, sleeping pill od puts you to sleep and you die in your sleep

>>139900128
Yes, it's that simple. Why don't you give it a try?

>>139876913
It should only be accessible to people of color, just like abortion. To strip whites of their privilege, we must ban birth control, abortion and euthanasia for whites only.

>>139876913
Try it out and let us know what you think.

>>139900128
Depending on the medication, it can upset the liver. Death due to liver failure is extremely painful, and it is rare for a person to sleep through it. The most successful methods so far seem to be jumping off a tall structure or breathing helium (which is difficult to set up correctly).

>>139900804
Thanks for explaining, getting tired of trying to tell this guy that off-the-shelf sleeping pills aren't a comfortable way to die.

>>139877228
>a letal injection with all my friends there. The government can provide this for me. That's what's freedom is like.

HAHA 5/5