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The Greatest Story Never Told

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How bad is it /pol/?

I don't want to cry.
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Watch it you fucking idiot.
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>>139873899
Most of it's alright but sometimes it says a bunch of stuff without proof and resorted to "muh holodomor" at one point.
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>>139873899

>HItlerist propaganda

Hint: you don't have to defend the actions of Adolf Hitler to be conservative or to oppose immigration.
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Watch it now. It's good

>>139875853
Eternal leaf

>>139874843
It cites everything
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>>139873899
It's bretty gud. Not 100% accurate but the filmmaker does a good job of providing sources for everything. Prepare for feels
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It's full of shit. 8 hours of made up shit, omission of facts and nazi propaganda. Fuck off national (((socialists)))
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>>139876015
He's right Goyim, nothing to see here.
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>>139875944

Hitler brought his country to ruin, permanently lost all territories east of the Oder-Neisse line, and his actions caused Germany to be occupied for generations (it still is occupied by the American army) and to have German education replaced with an anti-German propaganda system that resulted in Germany having the lowest birthrate in the world and having perhaps the most pro-immigration leadership and population in the Western world.

Defend Hitler.
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Hellstorm would be a better watch.
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>>139875853
I used to think like that. Then I immersed myself in his world.

Now I think. Why even bother with anything else? Why can't we just build a fucking time machine and prevent ww2. Fuck any other solution.

I just hope like someone like him emerges in my lifetime.
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>>139876288
>Hitler dragged Germany out of ruin just to ruin it
FTFY
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>>139876694

Germany sure as hell couldn't survive another Hitler
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>>139876015
This. It was the most one-sided documentary I have ever seen
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>>139876288
Better to try and fail then not try at all.
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>>139877019

If you judge a leader by how the country was before compared to how it was after their rule, Hitler was an abject failure. It's not even authoritarian governments that are the problem, look at the Catholic-influenced fascist governments of Italy, Spain and Portugal, they were largely successful. The issue is that National Socialism is a revolutionary ideology a lot like communism, and this dooms it to failure.
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>>139875944
They didn't cite it when they said that the USSR planned to invade Germany.
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>>139876288
>Defend Hitler.
Fur mein Fuhrer!
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/pol/praganda
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>>139876927
It's not a documentary.
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>>139873899
im watching it now. about a 6th of the way through.
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It's pretty good. Reading through Mein Kampf and other works is the best thing you can do. Conservatives on here are asshurt that regardless of how much publicity or (((power))) they have in the US they still can't keep abortion clinics from opening, social decay running rampant in unis, etc. so they'll probably just trash talk it.

Just watch it and enjoy it.
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>>139876927
its literally what the germans would have made if they won. It's the opposite of the ww2 story we are taught today. Except after personal research into it, I think the greatest story never told is much closer to the actual truth.
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>>139876015

Yes goy all fake go back to watching your television
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>>139873899
Watch it having other sources around to cheek the facts. Just because they talk nice about Hitler and you like it doesn't mean it isn't liying to you
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>>139877395
Better to judge how the country managed prior to the war breaking out, or how it held together despite being at war with empires and industrialized nations with higher economic output and overall military strength.

Nah, screw that, just compare the ruined cities and rubble to the Weimar. That'll do it. :^)

>>139877487
Yeah, those millions of mobilized Red Army units against their 'Western neighbour' (Germany) a long with a million paratroopers, hundreds of newly built runways, thousands of tanks, artillery pieces, etc...

Nothing wrong there, goyim.
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If you're properly informed on the history you can easily spot inaccuracies and convenient omissions. It doesn't pretend to be impartial, and it's worthless for "converting" normies, but go ahead and watch if you have too much free time.
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>>139878704
mobilized Red Army units stationed near the border*
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>>139878704

Wars don't "break out," someone starts them. And being aggressive towards all your neighbours will definitely lead you to war. Declaring war on Poland was just the cherry on top
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>>139873899
eh, theres some lies and propaganda there but it shows the human side of hitler which is the opposite of lets say history channel documentary about WW2
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>>139878833

>Germany takes over Austria, Czechoslovakia, and Poland, leading to it sharing a border with the Soviet Union
>Hitler has aggressively anti-Soviet views
>Soviet troops were mobilized for "no reason"
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>>139878704
>>139878833
Give me proof of a plan to invade Germany and if they were all mobilized and ready for battle, how come they were destroyed at the start of Op. Barbarossa?
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It's fucking shit. There is much better media on the topic
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>>139873899
It's a mixed bag of fabrication, omission and anachronism in order to make Hitler look like he dindu nuffin. If you've never read any book on 20th century history, you might fall for the memes.
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>>139878952
No shit, and its not like the Poles behaved the same away towards the Czechs, Lithuanians, or Ukrainians...

Oh wait...
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>>139873899
i found it a bit dull
read/listen to an audiobook of mein kampf instead
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>>139879118
>what is operatsia groza
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>>139879302

I must have missed when Poland invaded Lithuania and Czechoslovakia (Ukraine wasn't even independent)
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Poorly made. Half of it is just a wall of text floating past your screen. They re-use the same song for a lot of scenes. It's also just a bunch of one sided Nazi propaganda, and a lot of the things in the documentary are outright false. If you're a retard who believes everything he sees you'll like it.
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>>139879291
Hitler is a saint. St.Adolf, forever in our hearts.
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>>139879114
>no reason
That was sarcasm, and yes, they were there for a surprise attack on Germany while Stalin waited for Hitler and Churchill to wear each other out.
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>>139873899
Been here for about 3 years. Its a bunch of bullshit. Most people are already right leaning so they buy into the garbage that's spewed here.
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>>139879573

What interest did the Soviets have in invading Germany? Stalin's form of communism wasn't expansionist, and he had Icepick Trotsky (the supporter of permanent revolution) killed

On the other hand, we know that Hitler wanted to expand into the USSR
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>>139879407
>(Ukraine wasn't even independent)
Doesn't stop it from being seen as aggressive.

As for the rest, Polish stole Zaolzie off the Czechs, and captured Vilnius from the Lithuanians.

Not like Western idiots give a shit about consistency on this.
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>>139879072
>which is the opposite of lets say history channel documentary about WW2
Wrong. I recommend Goebbels Diaries, a great documentary narrating only passages from Goebbels 20+ dusty tomes that survived the destructio of the bunker alongside footage of entire nazi era in a chronological order all the way to the last entry. Shows an interesting light on quite a few nazi leaders. Not that it changes what they did.
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>>139879118

>if they were all mobilized and ready for battle how come they were destroyed at the start of op. barbarossa

They were enveloped and destroyed precisely because of their being deployed so far forward in preparation for attack.

The Soviets of that era had no real defensive plans or tactics. All of their training was with the attack in mind.
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>>139879612
>no examples
>no arguments
>wonders why they constantly get their teeth kicked in intellectually

Why are you still here?
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>>139879980
Because you never leave.
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>>139879819

So Poland invaded just a part of the Soviet Union? Interesting.

>Polish stole Zaolzie off the Czechs
>The Zaolzie region was created in 1920, when Cieszyn Silesia was divided between Czechoslovakia and Poland. Zaolzie forms the eastern part of the Czech portion of Cieszyn Silesia. The division did not satisfy any side, and persisting conflict over the region led to its annexation by Poland in October 1938, following the Munich Agreement.

Uh oh, looks like Hitler did that
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>>139879114
The Soviet Union also invaded Poland, it's why they capitulated. The Soviets intended to take as much of Europe as they could get away with, but they understood enough that they had to get their house in order. They were in a consolidation phase prior to the purge and felt they had more time to prepare... And made a fatal miscalculation that Hitler wouldn't strike first. Stalin was absolutely shocked because he held put hopes that there could be friendship, or at least detente, between their regimes... Allowing for an amicable splitting of Europe in the short term. But war was inevitable one way or another.
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>>139876015
I'm pretty sure you don't know what do the triple parenthesis mean.
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>>139880266

Hitler made a pact to give part of Poland to the Soviets because he himself wanted to invade it, and the Soviets minimally participated in the Polish invasion. This was so he had more time to prepare his invasion of the USSR
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>>139880277
And? You don't need to be an ethnocuck to find weimar and ww2 interesting.
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>>139873899
I had a high school teacher play this in class in my senior year. I dont think he knew what is was about and I was shocked. I wanted to say something to him about it because I didnt want him to lose his job over it. The students didnt pick up on it though because they were all just talking and texting like retards.
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>>139879114
You're also ignoring the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact.
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>>139880249
>Uh oh, looks like Hitler did that
No, the region went to Poland prior to WWII breaking out. Your quoted green text even states the case for me.
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>>139880609

It's part of the pattern of German expansionism, and I mentioned it in reply to you already >>139880420
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>>139873899
Its pretty well cited and well done but only really presents one side. However it is already like 8 hours long so it would be hard to get all the information in. The biggest take away is to get the information to debunk the "He was just crazy" argument.
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>>139879317
Supplement it with The Rise and fall of the Third Reich.
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>>139880442
>muh 6 billion
please fuck off
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>>139880731

Do you even know what the Munich Agreement was? Holy shit
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>>139873899
Conspiracy theory garbage. Empire of Dust is better.
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>>139879954
>The Soviets of that era had no real defensive plans or tactics. All of their training was with the attack in mind.


Their doctrine was Deep Operations. It called for several offensives into enemy territory. It was suspected that if any units got cut off, they would simply have to wait for reinforcements by air. They didn't think a war of movement was going to be so swift, despite the western European propensity for it.

In Hoth's "Panzer Operations", he notes that in the central sector there was a large and suspiciously place motorized division that signaled to him that the Soviets were probably preparing for an offensive.

Taking over the world is literally communist doctrine. It's like cult of "liberation", which requires the forceful subservience of it's enslaved citizens and expansion to encompass all peoples.

The Soviets built up a war machine since Stalin took over. In the Holodomor, the chief reason it's considered an intentional famine is because the USSR had surplus food- and sold it to pay for raw materials and military technology.American inventor Chris Christie would even find himself working on tank suspension systems and armor packages.

The Soviets had the BT fast tank. It's primary feature is removable treads for on-road speed. The treads were meant for cross country. At the time, the USSR had no significant roadways and almost none paved. This was an offensive weapon. The USSR also had 100k airborne units, which even for it's size seems excessive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8raDPASvq0&t=346s

This has all you need to know about Hitler's personal opinion of the war. The Soviets must've "lived like animals" in those factory-city conditions.
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>>139879809
It was a strategic interest that still exists today. Stalin wanted, at the very least, a buffer between his Bolshevik state and western imperialism. Many of the motives also go back towards pan-slavic ideals.

If Stalin was benign, why seize eastern Poland and three Karelian isthmus? Stalin wasn't a good boy. He diddu sumthin.
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>>139876896

The white race as a whole couldn't survive another Hitler. Unless he won.

If he lost, the left would just leave the death camps open, but it'd be us getting tossed into the ovens.
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>>139880860
>muh reich dindu nuffin
top kek
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>>139879809
The Soviets had ambitions for global revolutions since taking power in Russia in 1917. The way in which this was carried out varied before and after Stalin took power.

I also do not buy your point, its an argument that has shown to not hold up in time, information on the secret plan 'Operatsia Groza' combined with the mobilization of a massive Red Army invasion force on the border with Germany in the midst of its air war with England states clearly enough what the Soviets had in mind, and it wasn't peaceful or defensive.

Killing Trotsky has zero relevance on this subject, why would you mention that? Maybe you're a blue pilled idiot or communist.
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>>139880442
>ethnocuck

I used to live in multiethnic post-Soviet country.

It was a fucking hell with terror attacks, poor economics and soviet-tier """""(((speech control)))""""" laws.

Now i am lived in 99.9% monoethnic society.

Thanks God for Poland.
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>>139876015
Communism is Jewish, socialism is Aryan.
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>>139880877
Your reading comprehension is shit, I'm not talking about the Munich agreement, which in no way justified Poland taking Zaolzie.

You appear to be ignorant of when Western allied countries engage in aggressive behavior in the Interwar period, which shows up the whole 'muh land stealing krauts' argument to be hypocritical.
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>>139881151

>since taking power in Russia in 1917

Idiot, Stalinism =/= Leninism/Trotskyism. Why do you think he had to purge all the "world revolution" faggots?
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>>139876927
flag pussy

Hitler was a great man.
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>>139881151
Basically this. They tried to invade the west, but the Poles sent them packing later on.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_westward_offensive_of_1918%E2%80%9319

Peace land and bread my ass.
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>>139880420
I don't see how this is a rebuttal of any of my claims... But you are also wrong. Germany invaded Poland on September 1st. The Soviet Union joined the action on September 17th... The war ended less than two weeks later.
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>>139881462
I should mention, on balance, that the Poles were definitely in the right when defending against Soviet aggression.

Its too bad how the rest of history panned out.
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Greatest story never told wasnt too bad

"hellstorm" fucked me up though
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>>139873899
It's only the most important film of all time.
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>>139879385
Anecdotal evidence isn't real evidence.
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>>139873899
>be me
>a few years ago
>be 'red pilled'
>as in understand Leftism and SJW and mass immigration are not good things
>also think NatSoc fags are nothing but edgy LARPers
>only knowledge of WW2 is secondary school and A Level history
>see TGSNT posted all the time
>decide to watch it in order to debunk it
>start watching it
>realise the hill of beans my knowledge of WW2 amounted too from formal education
>still want to try to debunk it
>12 hours later
>pic related

Not being a pussy but nearly burst into treats at the Rape of Berlin.
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>>139881908
Want to say that one more time for the cameras? I just need you to move in front of this really famous gate most Europeans have seen...
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>>139881737
>"hellstorm" fucked me up though
it fucked my oma up too man
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>>139881364

But the Germans WERE taking land.

>>139881475

I was saying that Hitler wanted to expand east. Everyone knows this. He made a pact with the Soviets as an intermediate step in this plan. The Soviets wouldn't have invaded Poland on their own because of how they got their shit kicked in just 20 years earlier.
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>>139881377

Stalin was a commie scum, but he did a good thing: for example, got rid of jewish control and killed Lev "make europeans like white niggers" Trotsky
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>>139881737

>I shall at all times be prepared to surrender my life for this oath

Why are Nazis so weird and cultlike? Don't you see how weird this seems to normal people?
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>>139882131

Yeah, and the point I'm making is that his form of communism was less of a threat to other countries than Trotskyism would have been
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>>139878952
>using baby tier EU4 geopolitical arguments
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>>139881908
>secret plans for a war with Germany
>mobilizing one of the largest invasion armies in history on their border
>anecdotal evidence
wew lad

>>139881377
>muh ideological hairsplits
Irrelevant.

Oh and some of those purges were deserved, one paranoid, power hungry Georgian taking out other pieces of shit.
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>>139882188
We get it. Serious commitment kills the normie.
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>>139873899

>basing your entire life ideology, values and vision on one biased documentary
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>>139882071
Don't argue hypothetical, stick to the facts you fucking leaf. What happened, did. What might have did not. The Soviets invaded, and of discussion. Whether they did or did not due to German intervention is something we can't argue because it would be just as valid to say that the communists who have an active goal of world domination may have decided to try practicing what they openly preach.
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>>139881377
>shifting the focus of the discussion
You're either a retard or a shill at this point. Maybe both.
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>>139882188
If the sacrifice of one made a better life for the rest of the group, is it not noble?
Would you not give your house to a Asian so that all Asians feel more comfortable with less Canadians?
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>>139882188
Because they keep telling me my people won't exist by 2040, and I'll die in a pile of uses brass before I let that happen.
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>>139882071
>But the Germans WERE taking land.
That wasn't my point, illiterate leaf.
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>>139882348
> toothpaste thinks it's biased because mommy filled his head with lies
Just go and smoke your puff while your sister pimps her ass out.
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I'm not the biggest fan of whataboutism
>Yes but what about Stalin's crimes
>Yes but what about Americans lynching black people
>Yes but what about Britain's colonial crimes
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>>139882252
>Yeah, and the point I'm making is that his form of communism was less of a threat to other countries than Trotskyism would have been

Explain this shit, because it looks like,on paper, that he starved millions of his own people and had them work like dogs so he could have the shiniest new tanks and weapons. I already told you, according to some German generals like Hoth, it looks like they were gearing up for something.

We didn't even mention the maps of central Europe the Soviets were issued-with phrases in German.
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>>139881151
Stalin was a champion of the 'socialism in one country' doctrine. Ironically enpugh that was the more moderate faction within the bolshevik party as opposed to Trotsky who was an advocate for an international perpetual revolution. What do you think the 1936-38 purge of the soviet military brass was for? Generals like Tukhachevsky were veteran officers from Trotsky's redguards and they got btfo despite being good tacticians. Also Stalin was keen to push through his 5year plans for mass industrialisation and the country was broke still broke from the 4year long civil war despite Lenin's NEP.

Stalin signed the ribbentrop-molotov pact because he knew the USSR wouldnt be ready for war by itself until the mid 1940s. Of course nobody is going to pretend Stalin believed longterm peace was possible, but he most certainly was not intending (or ecen capable) in 1941 or before that.
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>>139875853
And you don't have to be a Nazi to know that Hitler was right
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>>139882284

It's extremely relevant actually. Do you really think a non-aggressive Nazi Germany would have met as much opposition?

>>139882336

It's not serious commitment, it's weird. Why should I sacrifice myself for some loser who calls himself the Fuhrer?

>>139882388

I'm not sure what you're saying, but chinks can fuck off

>>139882427

They say the same about my people, but Nazism clearly failed and isn't the solution. As I said, you don't have to defend Adolf Hitler to want your country to be for your people.
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>>139881336
This. Germanic people have deep history of living in small tribal communities segregated by forrests. Socialism is germanic.
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>>139882284
>>139882252
>murders his own
>institutes a version of barracks communism
>starves people to prepare war machine
>said war machine uses purely offensive weapons and doctrine
>"my stalin was a good boy"

Yeah, right.
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>>139882538
>arming yourself is a hostile action worth responding to!
>unless you're willing to starve a bunch of Christians to do it!
Isn't it great when they remind you there's an entire dimension to these people that they entirely fail to grasp? No one so dumb is really even worth convincing, but it sure feels good highlighting their idiocy.
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>>139873899
I watched half of it
This is basically what it was
>Look! Hitler did some good things!
>And the allies did some bad things!

It wasn't some great revelation unless you went into it thinking Hitler was pure evil (I didn't). I stopped believing in good and evil long ago, there's only interests and people who protect them.
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>>139876927
As opposed to every other documentary on WWII ever made?
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>>139873899
>muh GSNT
If you're that easily persuaded by propaganda then you're a brainlet. Hitler was a megalomaniac who wanted to make all of Europe into his ideal image by force. If he had just stayed put in Germany maybe we wouldn't have had this problem today, but he fucked up massively by being a power-hungry warmongerer. All of WWII was basically just one big ego trip on Hitler's part.

The dude got more white people killed than any other person in history, and most were on his own hands. I have no clue why you fuckers worship him so much.
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>>139882538

I'm not defending communism, but if Hitler is invading countries left and right you'd be an idiot not to prepare for war.

>>139882577

Thank you

>>139882731

>"less of a threat to other countries"
>"stalin was a good boy"

Uh no, that's not at all the same thing
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>>139873899
It's one level above Michael Moore-tier Nazi propaganda in terms of truth and accuracy. The editing is terrible and the thing is cringeworthy.
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>>139882252

Trotskyism is like Cultural Marxism beta-testing: making Europe third-world shithole and destroying EVERYTHING.

Stalin also restored the Russian Orthodox Church, loved neoclassicism (google: Stalin ampir), and limitedly returned private business.

P.S

Google "Soviet Constructivism".

In the USSR, in the 1920s, (((they))) tried to destroy architecture.
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>>139881908
So there's no real evidence of gas chambers then?
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>>139882507
The only things related to what you are talking about touched on in the film are

>what about the Red Army's massacre of Poles that was blamed on Germans but was proved to be of the Red Army after the fall of theUSSR
>what about how Churchill began air bombing runs of civilian targets
>what about how it was written in law Nazi Germany can be the only power involved in the struggle capable of committing war crime

tbf the film is biased but is well sourced and after 70 years of insanely fairy taled an unsourced bias in the other direction, I would let them off with a kick in the opposite direction.
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>>139882577
This was a surprisingly good post. Good work gommie.

>Stalin signed the ribbentrop-molotov pact because he knew the USSR wouldnt be ready for war by itself until the mid 1940s. Of course nobody is going to pretend Stalin believed longterm peace was possible, but he most certainly was not intending (or ecen capable) in 1941 or before that.

Absolutely right. If he did it, it would've been 1945 at the earliest. The Red Air Force and the tanks had to be refitted, and the navy didn't have enough units.Hitler just realized that long term peace wasn't possible first.

>Also Stalin was keen to push through his 5year plans for mass industrialisation and the country was broke still broke from the 4year long civil war despite Lenin's NEP.

And this is the part that gets me. He spent everything he had on the military, to the point of starving his people, and then some, just to make sure he had the right equipment. Neglecting the fact there were better ways to do it(like capitalism), he spent two decades gearing up. He didn't do it for nothing.
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>>139874843
>Muh citations
>Everything is cited
>You only watched it to be critical instead of listening to the other side of the argument
>Literally confirmation bias
>Shill posting
>>139875853
>Only one side of a story matters, the side of the victor!
>Admitting you're a totalitarian barbarian
>This makes you the good guy
I don't like the Nazis either but you should at least listen to both sides of any argument before passing judgement. You're literally being closed minded.
>>139877487
>Commies invade immediately after the war to "help verify" the holocaust
>Commies build smokestacks to nowhere and claim all evidence was destroyed
>No evidence = surely they were guilty!
>Literally witch hunt tactics
>But none of this happened because the man in the video didn't properly tell you when it happened, despite it being well recorded in nearly every history book
This is why your people have "no-stab" knives and your police get bullied by street thugs.
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>>139881984
I got emotional when they were showing surviving members of the 6th army returning home in the 50s. So many people there were waiting for ghosts
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>>139882687
Yeah, we literally do. WWII was the foundation of a new world, a brand new creation myth detailing the extremes, the goals, and the methodology of how to be ideal.

We put people who want their home for themselves in the role of the world's most evil monsters, wholly irredeemable simply for flying the wrong flag, and the way the good guys fixed this was they bombed Europe to hell. Real fuckin positive story for the kids to hear. We want our goddamn home back, and so we will play host to the worst of the worst we can muster, simply because they're objectively superior, and they deserve the New world that was stolen from them. Fuck the traitors, every last one of you. When we take it back, you'll be made to beg and grovel for supporting the enemy who wants your home taken, your kids speaking another language, and your existence to be constant suffering.

You want to know why we take it so seriously? It's goddamned serious, that's why.
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>>139883082
I quite literally watched few parts of it couple hours ago, those things I said were mentioned in the film. It's whataboutism at its finest, which isn't an argument.
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>>139882577
As I said in a previous response, not all of the purges were bad, some were deserved. The points about 'Socialism in One Country' have no real bearing on the points raised, because it isn't as if switching from one to the other automatically means Stalin's intentions were purely defensive, or non-expansionist.

>Stalin signed the ribbentrop-molotov pact because he knew the USSR wouldnt be ready for war by itself until the mid 1940s.
He was not capable for a war in which the Red Army could easily steam roll the Wehrmacht by itself, but with Allied help and with setting up an enormous offensive army on the German border, if they struck first, they would have been in a far better position than when Barbarossa happened.
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>>139883194

I've heard both sides, and I think trying to defend Hitler is a pointless exercise
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>>139882985
>The dude got more white people killed than any other person in history,

>calls other brainlets
>ignores the total death toll in WW2 was less than that of the Bolsheviks

YGSIU
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>>139881462
No shit, Lenin tried to take advantage of WW1 to encourage a massive europe wide revolution. From his point of view, it was the first so many working class soldiers found themselves armed, and should instead turn on the capitalist order rather than fight amongst themselves. Either way it didnt work out like that and bretz-litovsk treaty was signed and the Russians were forced to waver a huge chunk of territories, which they quickly sought to recapture during the consequent russian civil war.
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>>139882789
Basically this. It would be:

>(((Allied))) propaganda says the Germans killed 500,000 POW's
>But look, the allies admit that 100 German POW's starved in allied camps and 50 Nazis were killed in reprisals!
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>>139882986
>government founded on the active downfall of the West
>less dangerous
Nah, even if the rat hasn't made it inside yet, you spray his house and let it die anyway. No chances for large threats, not even one.
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>>139882687
http://hitlerorchurchill.info
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>>139882687
>It's extremely relevant actually.
No, it isn't, switching to Socialism in One Country doesn't make Stalin's intentions innocent or non-expansionist/defensive, especially since Stalin was the most untrustworthy of all.

Its completely irrelevant.
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>>139883247

Well my point is that it's time to move on from WWII, and if you want to do this instead of being the eternally-marginalised Nazi, you need to create something new, something 21st-century.
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>>139873899
how about you check facts after watching it instead of asking around on autistic board full of people that don't know what political ideology they belive ?
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Not even going to quote anyone but everyone going "muh communism" needs to ask themselves if Communism is too perfect for a flawed humanity, why do you think you're so flawless to risk the lives of millions to try again? If those great leaders you adore were unable, what makes you better than them? If past Communist leaders were so admirable, why did they always form a Capitalist society instead of a Communist one? Seems like every time Communism is promised, Capitalism becomes truly corrupt and all powerful. Almost as if seizing the means only puts it into the hands of corrupt people? How odd.
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>>139882985
>If you're that easily persuaded by propaganda then you're a brainlet
Anon, I...
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>>139882772
I think you've gotten my position mixed up. Reread it.

>>139882789
>I stopped believing in good and evil long ago, there's only interests and people who protect them.

I should've saved my "now that's what I call edgy" pic for you.

>>139882986
>Uh no, that's not at all the same thing
Care to explain how exactly he wasn't a threat, because it looks like he was a murderous lunatic with no concept of the value of life about to take over the world.
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>>139883449

I bet you'd be the type of person who thinks it was a good idea to fight in Vietnam and fucking Guatemala because otherwise COMMUNISM WOULD SPREAD EVERYWHERE

Ridiculous
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>>139876288
At every turn he tried to end the war peacefully, but Churchill denied him every time.
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>>139883055
He only brought back christianity because of how desperate the situatiom against the nazis was. Anything to improve morale. He had no problem rounding up priests
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>>139883602

>he was a murderous lunatic with no concept of the value of life

Right, I agree on that

>about to take over the world

Wrong, there is no evidence for that
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>>139883496
And we will do so by rescuing our father, championing his ideals, and slaughtering every last one of your fucking plebeians who would tear us down along the way.

We have no desire to play "the game" as it stands noe because the whole fucking thing has been rigged since the end of WWII. Now we're going to play our game. Now YOU will play our game. We will rewrite the rulebook based on the objective truths society held dear before the cancer of post modernism, and anyone who doesn't get on board will be left behind.
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>>139882985
>If you're that easily persuaded by propaganda then you're a brainlet.
>Has the most basic, uninformed, mainstream opinion about one of the largest conflicts of mankind
Surely your two sentence world view is much more accurate than the 8 hour, cited documentary.
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>>139883247
Well said. It really has transcended history into myth
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>>139876927
If 3 is the truth, 1 is TGSNT and 10 is the mainstream narrative. Sure its somewhere in between but TGSNT doesn't have ridiculous narratives like muh 6 million and cartoonish depictions of the nazis with other made up motives and other nonstop bullshit.
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>>139875853
Riiight. Nevermind the financial drain or crime stats. Fucking shill. Rural people are shit on the most by illegals fuck your counter signaling empathy
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>>139883630
We should've glasses the island and there should be a Disney theme park sitting on top of Saigon right now. Get fucked you beta cunt, life has consequences and letting an enemy that wants you dead to spread leads to sticky situations like lighting a bunch of villages on fire because you wouldn't crush one rat 20 years ago
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>>139883201
Tragic af. You just tugged a heartstring.

>>139883378
What do you mean no shit? Lenin ran around guaranteeing:
>peace, which he caused a civil war over right in the middle of a world war, and then started a massive invasion of eastern Europe at the conclusion of the world war
>land, which is robbed from people under the guise of private property, stealing homes and land, any form of land "rent"
>bread, nuff said. Massive starvation in 1921, the next decade, and massive shortages to follow in the cold war that would have been multiple starvation if the USSR didn't import food from the US

>>139883594
the irony is palpable
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>>139883378
Wow it's almost like tribal bonds trump class bonds
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>>139873899
where i can find it with french sub ? or at least English sub
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>>139883247
Defending the Nazis on a tribal level is retarded. Hitler could've stopped in 1938 and had one of the most powerful nations on Earth, with prestige and plenty of living space for his people. Instead he went and worshipped a bastardized, romanticized version of racial science to justify his own thirst for conquest and led his people and the entire Western world to ruin.
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>>139883918
Lots of things have citations. A history textbook detailing the horrors of the Holocaust has citations too. Citations don't mean shit.

Look at every perspective on the scenario and then come to your own conclusions based on whatever evidence you gather. Don't let one fucking documentary dictate your entire worldview.
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>>139883707

Hitler basically kept breaking previous agreements and previous declarations that Germany wasn't expanding further though, they had no reason to trust him

>>139883897

>denounces post-modernism
>is a Nazi

You might want to think this through a bit more

>>139884067

I'm opposed to both legal and illegal immigration, in all forms. And I also oppose Nazism.
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>>139873899
You'll cry like a bitch
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>>139883324
>Listening to both sides of an argument is choosing sides
The only pointless exercise is trying to get people to consider that both sides were evil, once you've already decided on what you believe.

Everyone believes the US is evil. To believe such a thing, you need to take a step away from the patriotism that the US usually drowns itself in and maybe consider that what the US has done, isn't exactly the greatest. Maybe consider the US has fucked up a few times - maybe made a few decisions in its own self interest.

Doing so doesn't mean you hate America. It only gives you a less biased understanding of what America is. You can be aware of all the evil America has done and still love it. You can also argue "how can you still love America after knowing all you do??" but it always comes down to preferences.

Would you rather side with the evil nazis that killed millions? Or the evil commies that killed tens of millions? Do you think the nazis are less or more evil for how many people they killed or their choice of victims? Because believe it or not, "neither" is an option. You can instead decide not to fall for a fucking retarded "pick a side" meme and just be a centrist. I don't care what anyone says - refusing to pick a side isn't enabling anything. It's me saying "fuck you both".
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>>139883823
>Wrong, there is no evidence for that

Ok. Here's how this works: When someone adds evidence for something you either refute it after investigating, or accept it.

Start here:
>>139880993
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>>139884226
Again go to http://hitlerorchurchill.info and you'll see how clearly things really were. I guarantee you cant get anywhere near 100%
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>>139884067
He just said he opposed immigration, can you fucking read?

You don't have to be a Nazi to oppose immigration.

Fucking idiots. At least you neo-Nazi retards shift the overton window right.

But still, Bomber Harris did nothing wrong and I'm glad Dresden happened.
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>>139883630
The communist side the US fought in Vietnam was far worse, America should have won that war.

Anti-American propaganda helped to make sure that conflict became an even bigger bloodbath once the Americans abandoned South Vietnam and Cambodia to Le Duan and Pol Pot.
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>>139884085

And losing in Vietnam meant that Communism consumed the world? No. All of Asia? No. All of Southeast Asia? No. All of INDOCHINA, at least? Nope.
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>>139884192
This is my perspective on it. Hitler had the right idea but his execution was horrible and caused more longterm harm than good.
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>>139884192
Wouldn't have saved the Germans who were being butchered in Poland. Thing is, when the 4th American Reich rises, with 40% of the world's wealth behind us, there won't be enough countries left to gang up and stop us from doing what is right. His only crime was losing.
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>>139884192
That's a lot of buzzwords. What about his racial theory was bastardized?
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>>139884391
You're arguing on a failed supposition you dumb fuck. Your scenario that you're trying to strawman already happened by the existence of the communistic government that we had beat until those hippy fucks told us to pull out.
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>>139884277

I agree, in this thread I've been trying to make people see that they should move on from WWII

>>139884330

I already went over this

>Germany is expanding in all directions
>comes to share border with USSR

It's only logical for the USSR to station troops at the border in response to this, it doesn't mean an invasion is planned
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>>139884132
>what do you mean no shit
I mean it's not surprising Lenin wanted to recapture the lost territories lost after brest litovsk and made use that many soldiers who thought in ww1 were still not yet demobilised (meaning they still had guns n shiet).
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>>139873899
Watched it some time ago. While there are things that have increased my hatred for communism even more, I think it is pretty one-sided. They try too hard to make Hitler look like a hero and to make him look innocent.
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>>139884197
>Lots of things have jewish citations.

Libbre David 37

A Jew should and must make a false oath when the Goyim asks if our books contain anything against them.
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It's propaganda specifically designed to manipulate people who rely upon emotions instead of logic.
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>>139873899
No doubt the documentary is biased, but that's beside the point.
It shows history from a different perspective then the one we are taught and that one is no more truthful.
As with all things, the truth is somewhere in between, but the documentary does bring up some interesting talking points while also humanizing the Germans which is much needed.

I guess the 2 things you should take from this documentary is the post ww1 disaster state that Germany was forced into and the near miraculous recovery aided by lifting a nations spirit.
As well as Hitlers attempts to de escalate the war once he was done with Poland hoping that the west would see the true threat.

These things are the biggest pro arguments for the Nazis.
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>>139884171
That's one of the conclusions mussolini and later Hitler reached, yes.
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Bomber Harris did nothing wrong and I'm glad Dresden happened.
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>Bomber Harris did nothing wrong and I'm glad Dresden happened.

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>>139884356

The US would never have won the war though. You either had to support the Emperor of Vietnam or support the communists, not some cucked alternative that no Vietnamese cared about.

>>139884557

But I'm saying that, if communism would spread everywhere once it spread to Vietnam, and Vietnam stayed communist, how come communism didn't spread?
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>>139884597
>We should move on from WW2
I agree full heartedly. It was years ago and romanticizing the death of millions will only bring about a new tragedy in hopes of emulating it. Humanity today only wants to feel important, like our forefathers, and if that means a new world war or civil war, so be it - and that is truly the most pathetic attention whoring attempt I have ever had the misfortune of seeing.
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>>139882577
>>139883168
This still means that Stalin was preparing for war. Even if he was trying to avoid war during the early days of WW2, he still was mobilizing for an eventual war with Germany. Stalin wasn't a gud boi.
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>>139884597
>It's only logical for the USSR to station troops at the border in response to this, it doesn't mean an invasion is planned

Because
1)They designed a strategy that was purely offensive, Deep Operations.
2)They developed weapons they could NOT use in their own territory to full effect, like the BT tank designed for paved roads or the 100k paratroopers they trained. They starved their people for the silk that would be used in manufacturing the equipment, so yeah it looks like they were desperate to get their hands on it.
3)The motorized division that Hoth encountered was in a position for offense, not defense. He specifically notes that in his book.

This is just the sampler. We've not even started talking about intelligence reports.
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The greatest one sided argument never told is a better name. It does point out some interesting details but a lot of it is unfounded, exaggerated, and largely from very questionable sources.


Due to the creator being absolutely awful at conveying points you're left like a 20 part series or some shit, which could have easily been condensed into an hour or so with mostly text just scrolling. You're better off reading some random /pol/ retards mountain of links to random sites to read said information.


If you have a day to waste on what's literally just propaganda shit the equivalent of watching Pro-PRC videos then sure go ahead, but you're going to be left with more questions than answers at the idea.
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>>139873899
And lastly I'd add a couple things.

*Germans had it GREAT in pre war Hitler Germany. It was probably the healthiest nation that existed.

*Ethinc Germans were butchered by the millions pre WW2 and much much more post WW2. THAT was the biggest ethnic clensing in Europe to date.
Make NO mistake about this!
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>>139884197
>Don't let one fucking documentary dictate your entire worldview.
I'm not.
I wouldn't ever say that Hitler was a flawless dindu. There's a lot to criticise him on.
But that doesn't change that your Hitler ego trip story is wrong or at least misguided.
I don't want to go into a debate over Hitler's exact characteristics but simply comparing the situation from Weimar to that of NatSoc Germany shows that he genuinely improoved people's lives.
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Hitler did nothing wrong !!
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>>139884783
Bomber Harris really didn't do anything wrong though. He had a war to win-that's not his fault.

>>139884920
Exactly righm8
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>>139885101
>getting this mad at losing an argument that you have to hope the thread goes away
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>>139873899
Don't watch it, goyim. You don't want to be a Nazi, do you? Aren't you getting sleepy? I know I am tired, better go lay down for a bit.
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>>139885382
Krautcucks mad because Britannia did it better and with more grace than they did, didn't even have to start two world wars to take over the world

How will the autistic huns ever recover?
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>>139884831
Because Vietnamese are a bunch of fuckin gooks, and the West caught on to what (((communism))) really thought of it. It spreads from the source back in jew controlled russia, not the satellites, unless you need someone to sit you down and explain basic principles like market share dictating a culture.
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Thanks for all the replies.

Started watching, let's see how much of a emotional roller coaster it will be.

Did feel bad at the end of The Downfall, so I guess I'll sad again.
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>>139879291
Go suck Stalin's dick faggot Commie
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>>139885039

I've seen this picture be posted before, it really doesn't mean anything to give a well off persons POV as merit for why something is awesome. You have people who will speak of the USSR and other fallen regimes in the same light.

Also near the end basically playing the "yeah jews suffered but fuck em LUL" doesn't help his argument since it proves that he was more than likely what I said, well off and most plights of Nazi germany would have never effected him.
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>>139884831
>The US would never have won the war though. You either had to support the Emperor of Vietnam or support the communists, not some cucked alternative that no Vietnamese cared about.

By the early 1970s, before the US began dropping its funding of South Vietnam and was pulling out, they were militarily defeating the North Vietnamese and the Viet Cong, driving them out of the South. The 'Linebackers' helped to bomb the North back to the negotiating table, not that they should have used diplomacy, because the communists waited until the US had withdrawn almost completely before breaking all of their agreements and going for a surprise offensive on Saigon in 1974-1975.

I do think the US should have favored Bao Dai in the beginning, as for who they supported in the 60s and 70s, who cares? Look at the Korean War as a good example, Syngman Rhee was no saint.

You can't always fight communists with ideal regimes.
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>the leaf got blown the fuck out so hard he has to keep spamming his weak shitty bait because no one even gave enough of a shit to (you) it the first time

Remember this feeling, you little shit. Keep playing the Jewish game while the men leave you behind to scrabble around in the dust.
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>>139885039
>Hitler genuinely improoved people's lives.
>getting tens of millions of white Europeans killed in another pointless conflict
>improving their lives
kill yourself retard
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>>139885869
Bomber Harris did nothing wrong and I'm glad Dresden happened.
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>Bomber Harris did nothing wrong and I'm glad Dresden happened.

sage
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>>139883302
>but with Allied help
Which, believe it or not, sounded extremely unlikely in 1939. The UK-France-US axis were engaged in the planning of operation Pike (military campaign against the soviets) and at the munich agreement in 1938, stalin was not even invited to the table. At this point the western powers thought Hitler could still be pacified, whereas they always considered the USSR a serious threat. It wasnt until Hitler proved them wrong that the Allies famously willing to entertain what was then considered impossible.
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>>139885101
>Allied countries never broke a single treaty with anyone ever
>when the Germans do it, its evil, but not us
1/10 meme.
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>>139884511
Read any of Hitler's speeches or any Party-sympathetic literature and you find the same references to the mythical, spiritually-endowed, Indo-Aryan Nordic volk that even Nordicists like Grant would've laughed at. Esoteric cultural elements that the NSDAP idealized had already been divorced from the races of Europe for thousands of years before Christianity came. He was trying to force a completely alien spirit on the Germanic peoples.

Ironically the subhuman Poles possess the Aryan R1a haplogroup moreso than the master race.
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>>139886124
We don't have to concern ourselves with the opinions of lesser beings, but it sure is fun to like them with a stick
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It cherry picked some misconceptions about Hitler add Nazi Germany to white wash them while omitting other details about them since they're indefensible.
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>>139885648
I think scenes from Downfall are in TGSNT
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>>139886005
Yet they only declared war when Hitler invaded Poland, not the USSR
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>>139876015
>made up shit
Such as?

Sure I wouldn't recommend it to anyone who has never learned anything about WW2. But after a lifetime of propaganda from the winners, it's nice to see something that doesn't paint the Germans as 1 dimensional bad guys who want to conquer the world just because.
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>>139885753
My point was more about the fact that to some extend Hitler was motivated not entirely through megalomaniac causes, at least prior to the war, but by caring about his nation and people.
Of course there were certain groups that in the end suffered because of him but looking at the state of Germany prior to 1939 it was obvious that it would requiere some sort of sacrifice to uplift the country. You could of course argue that no matter how small such a sacrifice is and how many people would benifit from it, it would still be morally wrong and you're perfectly entitled to that opinion.
The only grievance I had was your initial, simplistic "Hitler = crazy, evil egoist" black and white depiction of a very complex situation.
Especially since you said that you shouldn't be "that easily persuaded by propaganda then you're a brainlet"
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>>139886213
That was Himmler that larped around Iran looking for Aryan aliens
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>>139884920
Nobody claims Stalin was a good boy. Also he wasn't really planning for war, he was more concerned with industrialising the country - which in turn could be more capable of mobilising itself if needs be. And it was.

Hitler seized austria, czechoslovakia, lithuania and poland all in the space of 12-18months as well as signing the anti-comintern act in 1936 and later the pact of steel with italy in 1939. No wonder hitler's neigbours started entertaining armament.
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>>139886787
Industrializing his country involved invading Finland and the Baltics?
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>>139886787
The argument was that TGSNT makes excuses about invading the USSR, and people claiming that the German excuse for invasion was weak, but if Stalin was obviously gearing for a war against Germany and was just trying to bide his time then that makes the German invasion excuses justified.
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>>139886654
Because it was Hitler breaking the munich agreement and not Stalin? Also the unexpected ribbentrop-molotov pact threw the allies strategy down the shitter, they did not want to force the USSR and nazis into an official military alliance, the non-aggression pact was already bad enough. Thankfully for the allies, Hitler did their job by going full tard with operation barbarossa, and then the autistic japs dragged the US into the war less than 6 months later. Both were terrible moves.
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>>139873899
it is fabulous. it was one of the main driving inspirations for me to write my book
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>>139887296
I smell matzo balls
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>>139887256
lolz, invading Russia was no mistake, it was the plan from the very beginning the USSR were the fucking kikes/NWO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzIRG525l6s
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>>139886005
>Which, believe it or not, sounded extremely unlikely in 1939.
I am not talking about 1939 here, but the events leading up to Barbarossa, which might explain why you are bringing up the next point.

>Operation Pike
Fell apart after the Fall of France.

>At this point the western powers thought Hitler could still be pacified, whereas they always considered the USSR a serious threat. It wasnt until Hitler proved them wrong that the Allies famously willing to entertain what was then considered impossible.
Not believable in the slightest, the Soviet Union was secretly bankrolled and financed into existence by the US and UK since its inception in 1917. This was the grand strategy from the beginning, as if the Anglos would allow the truth of that to get out had the Germans defeated the Soviets.
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>>139887750
Yeah, if the soviets were a threat then (((Jacob Schiff))) wouldn't be throwing money at them
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>>139873899
It's good but it's not without its flaws. The part where it got preachy about the British famines in India sort of had me rolling my eyes.

Still very good but amateurish and would benefit from a more professional rework.
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>>139886877
Like I said, Stalin was no good boy. The Ribentrop Molotov pact pretty much guaranteed Hitler and Stalin would carve eadtern europe among themselves. Naturally they were still distrusting of one another and rushed to get their agreed share (fun fact the pre devised borders were not exactly enforced as envisaged and almost caused the pact to come undone in 1940). Regarding Finland Stalin never approved of the taru pact and thought it was going to be easy to subjugate the finns. He was painfully wrong. But that's what you get for purging your military officers. Mobilisation-wise, the cost spent on the winter war was insignificant compared to the level of mobilisation the USSR saw after summer 1941.
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>>139885272
To be fair all those colonies weren't considered core territory, while Germany was upsetting the balance of power in Europe by aggressively claiming new lands as Germany.
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>>139881082
>>139876896
>It's Hitler's fault but not for what he did for what others did
Just gas yourself
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>>139887750
>the Soviet Union was secretly bankrolled and financed into existence by the US and UK since its inception in 1917
You wot? Churchill spent a small fortune arming the white russians while Woidrow would try not to get involved in Euro matters til late 1917. If anyone bqnkrolled the soviets, it was the germans with Lenin's secret train.
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>>139888513
He wasn't claiming any new lands he was freeing persecuted Germans in lands stolen from Germany after WWI and didn't "invade" any other countries, he was liberator bringing them under German protection from the Communist "threat" meaning death squads
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>>139888794
lol no question this is a kike
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>>139876288
Hitler saved his country from ruin. He alone was able to take back control of his country from (((them))). Oswald Mosley tried in the UK, François Coty tried in France, Vidkun Quisling tried in Norway. All great men, but none could do for their country what Hitler did for his (usually due to backstabbing and subversion from other factions within their governments).

Unfortunately, the fact that other western nations were still in thrall to globalist forces meant that Germany would be all but alone against their combined might. The fact that she got as far as she did against such odds borders on miraculous.
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>>139878002
True that conservatism is a movement doomed to fail, maybe we don't need to LARP as a 1930s German movement but the third position is the way
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>>139885920
stop being a Leaf

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>>139888794
Churchill funding the White movement was during his early life, back before he was bought off in the mid 1930s to rail against all things related to Germany. He was also not in power until war was already happening.

Woodrow Wilson flip-flopped on his involvement when he joined the Allied Intervention in Russia in 1918, and the US presence helped the Red Army more than it harmed, and I don't mean that from a perspective of galvanizing communist support from a perceived foreign enemy.

I posted much earlier here a picture of a book by a historian detailing how the Bolsheviks were supported by financial interests in Wall Street, and as for the claim of Germans supporting Lenin, that was only after it was clear the Tsars regime was falling apart when the February revolution occurred, and what is omitted from the same history is that the American, British, and Canadian governments all knew Trotsky was connected with the communist uprising in Russia, and all three gave him safe passage to travel there.
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>>139888996
Funny how Germany is blamed for starting WW2 with the invasion of Poland considering a vote was supposed to have happened before communist terrorists attacked the polls and burned down voter housing.
(((They))) probably got terrified that so many people were sympathetic to Germany and needed to instigate something big quick so that they could obscure the facts and reshape the narrative to portray Germany as evil.
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>>139884277
holy shit, all this
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>>139890759
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>>139890146
>wallstreet
So private individuals then, rather than the state. I'd have to look into it as I've not heard that allegation before but it's not untrue that socialists, like trotsky during his early exile, floated around intellectual circles full of idealistic richfags.

Whichever way, the conspiracy that the western powers sought to see the tsar overthrown is a bit of a stretch. Especially considering Russia was on the allies side, it was Germany which benefitted the most from destabilising the provisional kerensky-led duma government by unleashing Lenin back in Russia. Although I doubt Ludendorf and Hindenburg expected Lenin to actually succeed.
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>>139873899
It is a Nazi apologist film. If that is your kind of film, watch it.
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>willingly watching pure propaganda
wew
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>>139873899
>How bad is it /pol/?

It is virtually all lies and historical conspiracy theories that were disproven decades ago.

Its funny that people watch it and consider themselves redpilled even though all they really do is fall for lies pushed by the nazis.
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Its an interesting look into how the Nazi party percieved WW2. Its not some le ebig redpill but rather another side of the story. Soviet Storm provides a similar look from the Russian side using documents from the era showing how the USSR saw things.
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Complete meme documentary.

If you want to know "the other side" of Nazi Germany read Ian and Irving's books about all things Nazi Germany.
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watch hellstorm while you are at it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ck-TEamhLBk
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>>139873899
Its not 100% true
But it sure opens your eyes
Give it a try, take everything with a grain of salt
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>>139892569
I'm shocked this isn't banned from youtube yet.
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I had watery eyes toward the end when he talks of the warcrimes against the German people.
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>not one link to the topic subject ITT
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>>139875853
Fucking loser Torontonian
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>>139892887
they can't stop the bum rush bro lol
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>>139893376
The greatest meme ever told is not particularly hard to find desu
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>>139893376
damn lazy nig
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XExjrZxTdk
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>>139886787
>seized austria
After a 95% vote to be annexed, you're being disingenuous

Also http://hitlerorchurchill.info
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>>139879291
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>>139893376
it will make your blood boil, after watching it learn about satanic ritual abuse and pedophilia done by the same (((people))) then get laced up motherfukcer
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Churchill was objectively a better man than Hitler by every possible metric:

>Churchill died a revered hero of his country; Hitler committed suicide 50 feet underground after denouncing his countrymen, and is now universally hated except by a fringe internet fanclub.
>Churchill had a successful and varied career before becoming Prime Minister; Hitler barely rose to the rank of corporal, and then was a failed artist.
>Churchill was a talented writer, even going so far as to win the Nobel Prize in literature; Hitler's books are infamous for their turgidity.
>Churchill gained power legitimately, once by succession, the other by outright winning an election; Hitler gained power through thuggishness, intimidation and constitutional chicanery.
>Churchill was happily married and had five children; Hitler was sexually neurotic, had no children, and only married his waifu a few hours before committing suicide.
>Churchill could hold his drink; Hitler couldn't.
>Churchill had a sense of humour; Hitler didn't.
>Churchill could hold a room's attention with his mere avuncular presence; Hitler had to rely on shouting autistically.

Finally

>Churchill won the war and Hitler didn't.
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>>139893815
There was a Nazi Party offshoot in Austria funded by German Nazi members which violently and aggressively influenced the road to annexation. They were the ones pushing for it.
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>>139893815
Please read history, not just meme infographics made by fucking Stormfront.

Not even Irving agrees with you and he went to court defending Hitler..
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>>139894598
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>>139873899
It's unrionically terrible
>6 fucking hours long
>terrible production quality
>poor narrative with a ton of holes
>supremely biased
>basically zero sources
>"""epic""" music that is designed to manipulate your emotions

It's fucking terrible
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>>139893815
Get ready Juden
https://youtu.be/GfgqV9eEtkw
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>>139894501
>(you)
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>>139893815
>what is the asassination of dollfuss in 1934 and ultimatum given to Schuschnigg in 1938
Hitler had a fellow fascist leader killed and his followers gradually repressed because he did not want an independent (even if allied) austria. So sure, the anschluss was won through the ballot box...after political assassination and meddling in austrian politics.
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>>139895589
>after political assassination and meddling in austrian politics.

kikery 101 accused your enemy of doing what you do and crucify them for it. This doesn't sound like something a commie would do at all. We got some us grade A kikery going on here boys
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>>139888663
>A general that lost a war has no responsibility.

No wonder you like that loser.
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>>139894501
10/10 post

felt a tinge of anglo pride swell up
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>>139896116
yes thank you Churchill Queer Britain, homo Roosevelt and fuck face America, we did a great deed in the world gys leaf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51HbT-Ar_RM
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>>139884337
I just got 92%, I'm not the person you were responding to. I think both sides made mistakes, but in terms of provable policies Churchill was clearly the worse.
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>>139894501
Yes, because the Allied victory has helped the West so much!
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I cried at how fucking long it was.

Go watch Triumph of the Will instead.
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>>139875853
Why would you ever want to be a conservative? They compromise on everything and conserve nothing, they're eternal losers and cucks.
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>>139896636
You sound butthurt.

Dresden deserved it.
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>>139896516
t. 85-iq naziboo
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>>139895926
>Dollfuss was assassinated on 25 July 1934 by ten Austrian Nazis (Paul Hudl, Franz Holzweber, Otto Planetta and others)[11] of Regiment 89[12] who entered the Chancellery building and shot him in an attempted coup d'état, the July Putsch.[13] Mussolini had no hesitation in attributing the attack to the German dictator.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engelbert_Dollfuss#Assassination

Even mussolini condemned the attack in a famoustelevised speech only days later where he mocked the german people for being a race incapable of literacy at a time where the Italians were reading Virgil, lmao.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auCoZq13VL8

If you want stormfaggotry to be taken seriously, at least please study a little history to begin with.
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>>139873899
Nice change of pace but pretty entry level.
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Bolshevik jew niggers
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>>139896116
Mkay, Peng.
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>>139873899
Listen to Kom Susser Tod before watching it, then you have a general gist.
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>>139896819
That wasn't even his argument.
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>>139894501
>ywn hear churchill's voice lull you to sleep on the radio during a luftwaffe bombing raid
>ywn make him proud by fighting on the beaches
>ywn see him get his revenge on atlee
why even live 2bh
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>>139897630
What was his argument?
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>>139874843
fuck off dead beat Ill send your police after you.
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>>139877395

Hitler turned starving 1933 germany into richest country in the world 1938 germany by creating what was effectively butcoins to replace the money. Through public works, he created infrastructure and the people who came to work on them were paid in worker bonds. Like bitcoin, a set amount of currency was created and then left alone. No central planners and bankers required. It worked so well that the central bankers had no choice but to kill hitler.

They used all countries under their control. How else do you get america, land of the free, to ally with the ussr, the land of government owns literally everyone.
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>>139896636
this is how you do it bro
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>>139898395
Fuck off comparing bitcoin to your statist fiat currency nonsense you welfare kraut
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>>139879291

>(((history books)))

Truly communism is the worst religion
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>>139898626
>(((youtube videos)))
Relly maeks u tink
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>>139876288
fun fact: industrial production in germoney was greater after the war than it was before
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>>139898611

Not an argument
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>>139896743
lolz Germany could have crushed Britain into total defeat if they didn't stop at Dunkirk and got fucked for being the good guys, won;t happen again
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>>139898878
Netherlands isn't a country

Bitcoin isn't even remotely similar to whatever retarded nonsense you posted so please just kill yourself or post a real argument.
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>>139898784

Kikes make the worst zealots
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>>139898919
>the good guyz
>we wuz just tryna annex countries n shit, we didnu nuffin wrong
see the pic in >>139885101 you stupid wehraboo faggot, firebomb yourself
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>>139898953

Not an argument, only 16 million bitcoin will ever be made and that is why their value can't be stolen through rampant money creation

Money printing is theft
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>>139898784
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>>139898395
Actually the wages fell back and then stagnated for the entire duration of his tenure as reichskanzler, the large industrialists who backed Hitler's rearmament profited quite well though.
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>>139899158
>>139898395

actually no you are full of shit, you are a kike so this is redundant of course
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vfdZtpx_ug
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>>139899158

And here come the voodoo priest communists to spout their religious nonsense. Did all the technology and the wehrmacht just speing into existence at random?
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>>139899130
>WE WUZ BITCOINZ N SHIT
holy hell you're retarded

only reason nazi economy didn't collapse is that you fucking nigger-tier faggots literally stole from the countries you annexed

truly the thugs of europe, bomber harris should've done it to more cities desu
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>>139899130
the number is 21 million anyways you fucking retard, you don't even know the fundamentals about the nonsense you spout, please kys you welfare kraut nazi apologist
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>>139899482

Which countries did germa y annex between 1933 and 1938?
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>>139899482
>only reason nazi economy didn't collapse is that you fucking nigger-tier faggots literally stole from the countries you annexed
hahahaha kike spotted, another lie

nigger he didn't steal the kikes wealth much less anyone else's you faggot ever hear of the Havaraa agreement? Of course not because you are faggot
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>>139880443
Jesus did you talk to him after about it?
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>>139899829
>Nazis didn't plunder the countries they invaded
this is why nobody takes you wehraboo failures seriously
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>>139875853
It's a movie leaf, chill
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>>139899626

I don't take orders from minorities
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>>139899325
Nobody said anything about employment. The figure fell drastically because hitler went on a massive public sector hiring policy, and probably was only able to subsist it through freezing the wages, banning unions, seizing the assets of political opponents and undesired communities, and the one-sided bilateral trade deals he forced his newly acquired territories to sign like with Sudetenland, memel and later poland, etc, etc.
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>>139892243
Your Talmudist poison is being exposed daily. The rule is simple...Never trust a Jew. If it's making noises out of its face-hole it's lying. Critical mass is rapidly approaching.
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>>139899325

What the fuxk, youtube redirects me to https://m.youtube.com/watch?params=EAEYAdoBAggB&v=q43Gapqae-0&mode=NORMAL

Bitchute link?
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>>139900340
>He takes orders
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>>139882724
That's tribalism you mong. Socialism is communism lite.
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>>139900555
https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=8vfdZtpx_ug
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>>139885787
>>139885787
Rhee literally did nothing wrong
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>>139873899
Even the fucking Deadliest Warrior is more historically accurate
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The divide and conquer of the jews have won /pol/
If you keep attacking national socialsm it means that the shills have won your mind
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>>139901044
Nazis do not represent my people. Fuck off
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>>139873899
It's too fucking long. A classic example of an autist who can write but can't edit.
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>>139899444
No, they had the MeFo Bill scam going for that. Buy our bonds into our great metallurgy company and get your money back! Oops, sorry we didn't actually put the necessary funds to even get the project going but thanks for the money, goys! Wait, don't leave what about this amazing volkswagens beetle through our joy program? You can have one at a discount once you paid all your deposits first. Oh sorry, it's wartime now and we gotta keep your money, but thanks for playing!

Yeah no mate, where did all the money come from, especially when you froze the wages years beforehand and encouraged hundreds of germans to do it for free through (((job experience associations))) like the RAD? Really makes you T H I N K.
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>>139879980
Because people like you always reply.
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>>139879291
Now im considering watching it. Thanks commie faggot.
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>>139901185
You are gay and there's nothing wrong with being national socialist
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>>139901185
no wonder leafs are an entire nation of faggots. Not even this dank ass gear could make you look less queer
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>>139901481
Except that National Socialism killed more white people than any Zionist Jew could ever dream of

really makes u think huh
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is there a shorter version for the autistically impaired? i cant watch something for 5 hrs or whatever it is
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>>139896819
>Even mussolini condemned the attack in a famous televised speech only days later where he mocked the german people for being a race incapable of literacy at a time where the Italians were reading Virgil
this is literally a /pol/ meme. makes me wonder if ww2 was just like a giant /pol/ and /leftypol/ irl meetup that turned violent
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>>139901044
Hmm sorry honeybun, but /pol/ is a socialist board now. Nawlright, schmookums?
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>>139901638
>has pictures of homosexuals wearing hugo boss
>calls other people queer
ok then

what's it like being a closet case? Nazism is a closeted homosexual ideology, it's entirely predicated on the adulation of "tall fit aryan men."

100% gay. Hitler was an art school faggot who killed himself after getting bullycided by a slav and a cripple
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>>139901733
the communists killed 100 million people
????
you are a shill or really stupid
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>>139902013
>it's entirely predicated on the adulation of "tall fit aryan men."

That's me nigger, I wasn't gay when I banged ya momma, Traps aren't gay faggot
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>>139902054
>white people
I see reading isn't Naziboos' strong point
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>>139902143
>traps aren't gay
see? Nazis are closeted homosexuals
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>>139873899
it's alright, watch it and research the claims made and make up your mind yourself.
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>>139902147
Do you think that hitler wanted that war?
He didn't
If he have won now the world would be a better place
they lost

and this is the world now
Do you like it? If not, then stop complaining and stop attacking national socialism until you found a better ideology (luck with that)
They actually fighted and millions of german fighted for a better future
They did more for the white race than you ever will do
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>>139902777
>stop complaining and stop attacking national socialism
Nope, my grandfather fought to remove the Kraut menace from Europe for a good reason.

I'm glad he bombed you autistic fucks
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>>139899158
i might be reading the table wrong but I don't see what the issue here is. hitler came to power in 1933. real wages per hour went up by over 7% in the 6 years her held power before the war, and real weekly wages went up 19%
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>>139902777
>Do you think that hitler wanted that war?
We've already kinda covered that point mate >>139886787, you're gonna need some better memes than this.
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>>139903107
Your grandaddy fought so communism could proliferate and your people could be replaced by turd worlders.
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>>139903530
Better than having Hitler murder anglos for not being aryan enough
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>>139897730
Read it again.
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