Catholics, isn't it time you consider conversion to Orthodoxy?

>>139830488
Seventh day adventism is the way to go m8.

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Orthodoxy is a meme. You have been warned.

>>139830488
What type of Orthodox church is best, OP?

>>139830655
>prots

>>139830835
None
OP is an immigrant himself
Yugoslav most probably

>>139830835

Choose the jurisdiction which is most convenient to your particular situation.

>Implying orthodox patriarchs aren't cucks too.
Matt Heimbach got excommunicated for racism.
The church has always gone through periods of crisis and this is no different. We will recover.

FUCKING RELIGIOUS NORMIES

GET OFF MY BOARD

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>>139830488
No. No cuck Pope is going to make me abandon the Faith of my forefathers. The Church has been through worse.

>>139830951

The heresy of Phylitism pertains to denying persons sacraments on the basis of ethnicity. Organising in the national interests of your own people is not Phylitism. Heimbach was pointed to some Greek Old Calendarists and he is comfortable there. If Heimbach were a Catholic the persecution would have been ten times worse.

>>139831084

The faith of your forefathers is Orthodoxy. The Catholic Church destroyed your own liturgical traditions and promoted heresy.

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>>139831147
The 2nd Vatican Council did, yet you can easily still find churches celebrating traditional tridentine mass and orthodox (in the no schimatic sense) priests. The Church will survive this, like it always has.

>>139830488
>What will it take for you to realise that the gates of hell have prevailed against the Vatican? T

What do you think the word prevailed means?

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>>139831630

The Catholic Church destroyed the cultural patrimony of Spanish and Celtic Europeans by replacing their own liturgical traditions with the Latin Roman rite. The reason the Novus Ordo sucks so much is because it builds on the destruction Rome already did to the liturgical traditions of native European worshippers.

Embracing Orthodoxy means a return to the organically developed traditions of your forefathers. The Gallican Rite, the Gregorian Rite, the Mozarabic Rite, etc.

The problem is so much deeper than Vatican II. The problem is the heretical assertion of the see of Rome as some kind of global superbishop and the destruction this office has caused. We need to not only undo Vatican II to return to Orthodoxy, but also Vatican I, the Council of Trent and the Gregorian Reforms.

>>139830488
You don't have Latin Rite orthodoxy so, NO. The point of the church is to be UNIVERSAL under on leader hence APOSTOLIC. Orthodoxy has become heretical since the Byzantine Empire collapsed. The theological differences between the two are trivial but the only reason the Catholic church wins by default is because there is one institution with one leader. The leader doesn't have to be the Pope but since there was/is no Roman Emperors left nor a leader of a universal state like the Roman Empire, there is little choice. Catholicism is fucked, I agree, but there is no choice, it wins by default because you retards redefined Apostolic Succession.

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>>139830488
Daily reminder that orthodox bishops say and do ecumenism as well and take it too far.

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The gates of hell have prevailed against the Greek Orthodox

>>139832015
And now you're one hard knock in the head away from the right-wing neopagan LARPers and/or embracing protestant heresy.

>converting because of one shitty pope
nigger how do you think we survived the renaissance

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>>139832218

>>139830488
>>139830835
>>139831147
Active recruitment between orthodox and catholics is forbidden, since faith is the same.

>>139830488
we don't want to go to hell
Orthodoxy is oriental Christianity, it doesn't represent catholics culturally
Foreign religions are cancer, they must GTFO out of Western Europe, Europe is Catholic, Protestant and Anglicanism
Don't try to change our identity, you fucking Jew.
Muslim looking Christians? TOP KEK

This is just another catholic hate thread. These guys are using the Protestant argument that since many bishops and priests nowadays use liturgical abuses during the mass that we should convert to "orthodoxy" since it is "unharmed".

Also here's the sex scandal in the gay ring of the Orthodox Church
http://www.eurekaencyclopedia.com/index.php/Category:Greek_Orthodox_Abuse

>>139830488
>Not being a Swedenborgian

>>139832134

This is a very superficial but very common argument Catholics give. They don't believe that the Orthodox Church is universal and unified because it does not have a single visible bureaucracy and head. We don't need a bureaucracy to be one in faith and worship. The head of our Church is Jesus Christ.

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>>139832327

The faiths are not the same. The Catholics teach the heresies of filioque, Immaculate Conception, Papal Supremacy and Papal Infallibility. They have also destroyed the liturgical traditions of their own European members.

The filioque is *not* a storm in a tea cup fought over mere semantics. It is a heresy which damages our understanding of the Trinity. It leads to the Catholic heresy of Created Grace.

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>>139832658

I am sounding like a broken record, but here I go:

the Catholic Church suppressed the local traditions of European Christians. Look at this celebration of the Liturgy of St Gregory by a Western Orthodox Church under the jurisdiction of the Orthodox Church of Antioch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trMWaBgOGQg

The Novus Ordo rite did not come into existence in one stroke in 1970 because everyone suddenly lost their mind. It was the culmination of centuries of cultural destruction that the Vatican visited upon local European churches.

The idolatry of bureaucracy is a hallmark of Catholicism.

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>be raised protestant
>have personal experience a while ago where I can't bring myself to deny the existence of God
>be deeply spiritually dissatisfied and unsatisfied with Protestant churches after trying to go again
>be spiritually lost for a while, looking for other possible guides (zen buddhism, taoism)
>biblical scholar sister tells me orthodox church is truest to the original traditions of the Church set by Christ and his Apostles after asking her about it out of curiosity
>this piques me interest
>do research on orthodoxy, the more I learn the more I like
>go to local Greek Orthodox church service
>love it, the small congregation, the walls covered in icons, icons painted on the walls, the ceremony, the incense, everything
>being in the orthodox church is deeply comforting and soothing to the soul, not like protestant churches
>orthodox sunday school resumes after labor day and going to go
>going to eventually ask priest about becoming a catechumen
>plan to not miss church except for special events if absolutely necessary
>feel like I've been immersed in the cool waters of an oasis after walking parched through a spiritually desert for my entire life
>saw qt white girl my age at church this recent sunday after praying to God for a girl to make my wife

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>>139834163

Thank you for sharing. I'll keep you in my prayers, brother.

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I respect our apostolic brothers but no.

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(((Orthodoxy))).

>>139830923
Based Albonymous.

>>139833247
The head of your church is whomever the Turks wish it to be. You've been cucked since the fall of Constantinople.

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>>139837844

It was better for Orthodoxy to be under the occupation of the Muslims than the Catholic Latins. The Latins would have forced Orthodox to accept heresies. The Muslims don't care what you put in your creed as long as you pay your taxes and obey their laws.

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>>139838019
Go on about how it is better to live under a caliphate than the vicar of Christ.

>>139838277

If your 'vicar of Christ' can't be trusted to run a children's catechism class, yeah maybe it is.

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>>139832243
This.

Protestants are basically white niggers in the US,....living in rural areas, collecting welfare, and attending tacky mega-churches.

I don't think they can even be considered "white" at this point

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Every single Orthodoxy thread descends into a couple of Catholics dancing around in this triumphalism of the crusades.

You need to remember this: Orthodoxy has survived its captivity by Muslims and Communist Atheists intact. We have holy priests and reverent liturgies.

The Catholic Church OTOH has been infiltrated by Freemasons, Communists and Modernists and has not survived. The Catholic Church has a thin varnish of orthodoxy, which is propped up by weasely lawyer's arguments based on cheap semantic tricks like calling things by different names.

Pope Benedict XVI admitted that the papacy in its current state did not exist in the 1st millenium AD. He also has admitted that up to 40 percent of Catholic priests are homosexual men.

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>>139830488

Of all the good and wicked works that John Paul II did in his lifetime, the most disgusting, abhorrent, unforgivable thing he ever did was "express sorrow" on the behalf of all Catholics for the 4th Crusade.
Legitimizing in the minds of the Eastern Churches the idea that it was an unwarranted and unprovoked attack.

On a black day in the year 1182, the citizens of Constantinople, turned mad by hatred for the True Church, swarmed into the Latin quarter of the city and indiscriminately murdered any Catholic they saw.
Not even the elderly, women and children were spared. The Orthodox didn't care. The infirm were dragged from their hospital beds and killed in the streets. Priests were beaten to death and their bodies desecrated. The citizens of this wicked city, not content with the suffering and humiliation they caused, sold thousands into slavery to their Turkish allies.

Pray for innocents killed on that horrid day. Pray for the glorious, brave warriors of the Fourth Crusade who, like God's wrath in the days of Abraham, decended upon this new Sodom. And especially pray for the endangered souls of the modern day Roman Catholic clergy who would insult the memory of the latin martyrs of Constantinople by shedding their disengenuous tears and kowtowing to the wicked Orthodox Church.

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>>139839305

So your think the sacking of Constantinople was justified?

What do you think about the Spanish Inquisition?

PS, are you in full communion with Rome? What do you think about Popes John XXIII, Paul VI, JPI, JPII, Benedict XVI and Francis I? Are they all legitimate Popes?

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>>139832327
bergoglio is a faggot and a pedophile

>>139839597

We Orthodox do not pray with heretics. I'm sure the Vatican tells you to do the exact opposite, but we still have our principles.

>>139839597
plus if the infallible pope says those involved in organized crime are not christians, and the vatican is a cesspit of predators, what does that say about the church?

>>139839206
It hasnt survived it was taken over by Mehmet II. It was the lack of virility that led to that loss and failure. Mehmet being the originator of Orthodoxy.

Catholic Church is infiltrated because it is the Church that matters.

I just don't get how you can say that the Islam invasion changed nothing. Should not the priests have been martyrs.

The cucking is real. And so is the vertigo.

Orthodoxy is a blip on the radar and would get trampled (even more) if the Holy See fell.

>>139839682
Have principles but bend the knee to your sultan.

>>139830488
>There was recently a sodomite drug fuelled orgy in the Vatican
Imagine larping this hard

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I recommend you read Harold Berman's history of the Gregorian Reforms, "Law and Revolution, vol. I".

Berman shows that the Gregorian Reforms were a total rupture with the first millennium of Christian practice. This was how the moden papacy was created. It's a must read if you want to understand European history.

>>139830488
A bunch of brainwashed child rapist protectors.

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>>139839900

Wrong, the Orthodox Church experienced martyrdom by the worst forces Satan could muster, Communism and Mohammedism, and it survived. It was attacked in such a vicious way by the forces of anti-christ because Orthodoxy is the real deal, Orthodoxy is where the action is at.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OQGZvcfEIg

>>139830835
dont listen to crapfaces here, all Orthodox Church R great and basically the same just find one where they do the liturgy and sermon in english

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>>139830951
so, he is excommunicated on condition to drop his ideas, Church can't say Hitler yes, even if it is Nationalist.

>>139831084
I love that pic, just shows catholics are a bunch of lewd fat fallen scum, look at their faces and compare to Orthodoxy here, that's what a healthy priest looks like , not your indecent catholic filth.

>>139832134
More nonsenseby a clueless imbecile, please stop inventing stuff up. Orthodoxy stayed unchanged , you literally make lies up, such is the heritage of catholcucky, fuck you scumbags all of you .

>>139832218
the Great Apostacy is the destination of the CATHOLICS, the revelation of this was a CATHOLIC MIRACLE, more lies , you are a discusting lying mindset

>>139832658
Orthodoxy is total Christianity , catholicism is a italian Church that destroyed 1000ds of souls and taught the believer fucking nothing.

>>139832734
theres no gay ring in the Orthodox Church because priests fuck their wives unlike your kiddie fiddlers and cocaine fuelled faggot orgies in the Vatican.

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>>139833918
finally some light by anon , feels we got a TON of redpilling to do in here

>>139838277
the vicar of Christ is ecclesiastical and universal poison while the caliphate a governing oppressor

>>139839305
more lies, FORGETTING to mention the Latins started 2 civil wars inside Constantinople, thank you for allowingme to show again what the mindset of a catholic is, the mind of a hypocrite and purposeful liar, you're literally BTFO for being crooks.

>>139839900
more nonsense , and lies , but thanks for corroborating the reason of our deep and permanent disconnect, cotholic fallacies.

>>139839949
never happened , next

>Fuck catholcuck, they're lost forever , do everything you can lads to save people with Orthodoxy, God bloess and help us all.

>>139830488
It really is. The new pope is like a demon.

>>139842090

The photo I attached to my OP is Pope JPII greeting a voodoo African priest. JPII is held up as a conservative hero by many Catholics. He prayed with voodoo witches, buddhists and protestants as if nothing was wrong - all religions are equal paths to God. You can tell a Catholic has really drunk the Koolaid when they begin saying JPII helped end the Cold War.

>>139830488

>gates of hell prevailed against catholicism but not orthodoxy
>what is 60 years of communism

>>139830488
All Christians are fucking cucks. I've never met a Christian who hasn't made me think 'what a fucking soft cock'. Bunch of do gooder muppets.

>>139830488
>letting your things get cucked and not fixing them
what about making catholicism great again?

>>139845588

It will be great again when it is Orthodox again. Orthodox means 'right teaching' and 'right glory'.

>>139843367
better soft cocks than worship the phallus of satan, heathen demonist

>>139846092
we know only Orthodoxy will be left standing , the others are simply late to join

>>139842812
Orthodox christians would have loved to stop communism if they hadn't an inconvenient bullet in the brain or were locked in a gulag

In any case most catholic christians (including LARPers) are those who only swear by the church before vatican 2 happened

I've been thinking about this for a long time. There's a really nice Egyptian Coptic one not too far, should I go in for a service?

>>139846591

Absolutely.

>>139830488
My nation has been staunchly Catholic since its inception, Orthodoxy feels alien.

>>139846092
i know,i actually like orthodox Christianity a lot,but i will not leave my religion until it will be lost forever,it is an integral part of my culture.
at the moment catholicism can be fixed.

>orthodoxy
No thank you, the only respectable people with culture and history inside orthodoxy are the Greeks
Rest are some drunken Slavic niggers and Middle Eastern non-European ethnicities
I will stay with Catholicism

>>139832015
>The problem is the heretical assertion of the see of Rome as some kind of global superbishop
When that assertion was made, he virtually was a superbishop of the entirety of western Europe in the HRE. Orthodoxy was not so. The difference may be in the tides of history and political division. I would expect an Apostolic clergy to maintain the original order of Christ's apostles though a millenia of human history has changed that sadly. Christendom IMO has never been divided even if its people have

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>>139830779
it's always this and some other pic i see posted as refutations, and both are pictures of seedy slavs. stop shitting up orthodox you cunts

>>139842047
You believe Orthodoxy hasn't changed even tho a sultan picked your leader.

Not ecumenical just a Muslim cuck with a superiority complex.

if your church wasn't around when christ was alive then you are a larp

>orthodox is the only one

>>139848522
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Canon III.
The Bishop of Constantinople, however, shall have the prerogative of honour after the Bishop of Rome; because Constantinople is New Rome.


"Philip the presbyter and legate of the Apostolic See said: "There is no doubt, and in fact it has been known in all ages, that the holy and most blessed Peter, prince and head of the Apostles, pillar of the faith, and foundation of the Catholic Church, received the keys of the kingdom from our Lord Jesus Christ, the Savior and Redeemer of the human race, and that to him was given the power of loosing and binding sins: who down even to to-day and forever both lives and judges in his successors. The holy and most blessed pope Clestine, according to due order, is his successor and holds his place, and us he sent to supply his place in this holy synod, which the most humane and Christian Emperors have commanded to assemble, bearing in mind and continually watching over the Catholic faith. For they both have kept and are now keeping intact the apostolic doctrine handed down to them from their most pious and humane grandfathers and fathers of holy memory down to the present time."

But please be hell bent on your superiority complex and the patriarchs that's Mehmet picked out for you (that were purposefully anti Latin to keep from crusading requests).

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>>139847339

catholicism feels alien to Christ, your church was Orthodox too before it changed , berhaps it will reject falsehoods and return to the path

>>139847018
it can, theoretically

>>139848802
our leaders are the monks, not the figurehead, you should listen, the Patriarch is decorative and no more lies desu the roach made a false turkish Orthodox Church , noone ever went to the true Church of Orthodoxy is still here 2000 years later, unadulterated and strong

Garbage, I can get you a whole lot of Church fathers who condemn the papacy for its crazy new manmade dogmas, why do you not reference them ?

because you're like most catholic shills, a liar and a fraud, who wants to dupe those who don't know best to fall for the trap

as much as there can be reconciliation there wont be because you've mutated to something essentially different

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>>139849165
see
>>139849098

you can't refute this. but you keep worshiping your catholic popes i guess.

even though they're all pretty much just joseph smith's

>>139830779
t.town rapist