Why do we not control human breeding like we do animal breeding?

you know chicken only grow that size with hormons and shit they feed then right?

it has nothing to do with breeding

nazis ruined it (not saying we shouldn't bring it back)

>>139815957
.....because people arent livestock and freedom is important you fucking autist

We will eventually do this but. However, the goal will be to become radiation resistant Greys, not ubermensch.

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>>139815957
>Are you telling me humans couldn't achieve the same result?

Are you telling me you haven't seen American women?

>>139815957
I think we should breed people that are smart, or can fly, or survive in space..

>>139815957
Eugenics has been tried in humans, it doesn't go well.

The idea gave us modern dog breeds though, so that's nice.

Humans have much longer generation times than chickens. It could be done but would take a lot longer.

>>139815957
We did this with niggers to make them better farm equipment but it kind of backfired when we gave them rights.

>>139815957

obviously we should develop multiple strains of humanity for multiple roles in society

>philosopher kings
>warrior class
>worker class

or something like that

>>139815957
I agree OP.

Now where do the rest of you sign up to have the chance to raise my offspring?

>why do we not (thing that is unethical)
That's a difficult question to answer OP.

>>139815957
if you go on pol youre probably not gonna be part of human breeding anyway so dont sweat it lmao

>>139815957
>guide evolution
>GH and antibiotics

You know this is not eugenics for chicken right? It's just drugs. In the same way they use pest control on vegetables they use antibiotics on chickens. Also lots and lots of GH.
Very retarded and stupid production model, probably what gives us so much cancer, for real. I raise chickens in my house, and they are very fat for natural grown chickunz. I just give them any shit to eat, and thats all they do all day.

>>139816056
>this is what vegans actually believe
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_breeding
educate yourself

>>139816108
In most circumstances I would agree but the benefits here are simply to great.

>>139816373
jew
black
mexican

>>139816245
Yeah. My neighbor has one of those "modern breeds". Poor fucker already had 3 hip operations because they are bred to look nice, not to be healthy.

>>139816068
>nazis ruined it
No, the victors ruined it.
The winner decides the path the world takes. We took plenty of ideas from the nazis.

>>139816056
You're mostly correct. But with proper breeding the hormones and special feed wouldn't be necessary. I think it would be more expensive though.

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>>139816486
vegans dont exist, i eat meat

>>139816373
White people already fill all roles.

>>139815957
How long is a chicken generation?

>>139816068
>(((enemies of the Nazis))) ruined it
FTFY

>>139816373
Too much babylon 5

>>139815957
In theory, eugenics would improve the species.

In practice, humans have a biological imperative to survive and breed. Good luck convincing/controlling the masses to give up the ability to breed for the theoretical benefit of the species.

>>139815957
Because it's "mean." We tried to do this with starving Africans and libshits got their panties in a knot, even though sterilizing them would've meant LESS DEATH than feeding them and allowing them to go make five kids who now also need our food. This is why Africa's population went from 200 million to 1 billion in 50 years.

>>139816721
You don't need to convince the masses though.
You just need to allow those who believe in it.
Their offspring will convince the masses.

>>139816056
It's actually a little bit of both. Having raised chickens, those who are of a breed meant to be slaughtered for meat will reach a larger size than other chickens. That's pure genetics at work.
On the other hand, chickens have the ability to overeat (just like any other animal) and also can be affected by the kinds of food they eat. So they may become fat from overeating, or from eating specific foods designed to gain mass.
Basically, its a little of both.

>>139815957
We do.

People it's taller and dicks and breasts are bigger than in the former century.

>>139816245
I'm not talking about trying to fix the current gene pool via sterilisation I'm talking about creating a whole new gene pool from which all future generations will descend

>>139817019
>People it's taller and dicks
not true
>breasts are bigger
that's because they're fat

Because it would not be aesthetically pleasing.

>>139816610
To answer this question. Chickens can live 10+ years provided they are kept free of sickness and protected from natural predators. An egg takes is laid every 25 hours, and takes 21 days to incubate. A chicken begins laying around 4-8 months depending on the breed.
Just some info, compare that to a human who needs 9 months to "incubate", and around 14 years to begin laying....

>>139815957
because just like todays media (((they))) have the keys. why put fluoride in the water when your populace is composed of specially bred genetically retarded consumers

>>139815957
Congratz, you realized the wonders of eugenics. Now join the rest of us in the sadness of knowing that mankind holds itself back immensely based on concepts like "freedom" and "liberty".

Animals are most useful controlled by humans, thus why it makes sense to modify them.

Humans are meant to act freely, and are considered optimized when they do so.

tl;dr Editing humans makes them inferior, because they become a controlled specimen, regardless of the increase in capabilities.

Read Brave New World.

>>139816444
that is some feminist level ethics you got there

>>139816482
>in my house
do they have their own room in your house?

>>139815957
>niggers eat chicken
>make chikens fat over the years
>niggers become obese and ready for the slaughter

Wtf i love monsatan now

>>139816482
I know for a fact that chicken growth has been in part due to artificial selection but if you won't accept that there are plenty of other scenarios which show the dramatic transformation that can take place within a few generations. How about foxes for example? Experiments have recorded their domestication within the space of only a few generations:

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/mans-new-best-friend-a-forgotten-russian-experiment-in-fox-domestication/

There are also any number of breed of dog which have had facial and bodily features pushed beyond the limit via guided breeding

>>139815957
>Much like farmers select out the cream of the crop chickens to fertilise the hens why do we not only select the cream of the crop men (>140 IQ, ~2m high, mesomorph body type, excellent facial aesthetics, high testosterone, no genetic illnesses, >7 inch penis, high fast twitch:slow twitch muscle ratio) to provide their seed to all of society?

This is the talk of a badly repressed homosexual.

Apply all that energy you waste imagining ways to socially engineer more of the men you lust after instead to repenting for your sodomy.

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>>139817019
People are taller because of food.

Human length dropped with the invention of agriculture because of nutrition deficiencies, and it wasn't before the 20th century that humans reached the same length as their pre-agriculture hunter-gatherer ancestors.

>>139816610
You can speed up the rate of a human generation. Just make it socially conventional again to be a pregnant housewife at 18 and everything else will follow suit.

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>>139815957
>Why do we not control human breeding like we do animal breeding?
>implying we don't

Reminder that welfare and socialist policy in general is inherently dysgenic, and that democracy reinforces dysgenicism as well by allowing people to persevere via numbers instead of prowess.

It doesn't matter anyway because China just kicked the ball for transhumanism. We'll be modifying ourselves to hell within a century.

>>139815957
I've seen something like this before...

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>>139817978
>>139815957
pic didn't upload?

>>139815957
How big are chickens in 2017 now?

>>139815957
>image
And people wonder why Americans are fat as shit.

>>139818038
>7'6
>780 lbs

What the fuck are the bones made of? Iron?

>>139818060
they're just pairs of breasts and wings grown in vats at this point

>>139818330
Well, the breasts need to grow quicker and larger.

Chicken breasts are way too expensive.

>>139815957
Breeding is inefficient, eugenics of the future will just be gene editing.

Although you're right, if we actually did it, we could easily shift the median height/IQ/whatever far to the right in only a few generations.

But in the near future we will have mapped out all of the SNPs that correlate with intelligence, and we could easily produce humans with all the positive variants. Humans with IQs dozens of standard deviations above the norm.

Sadly this will probably be banned in the West, so the Chinese will be the ones to do it and they will pretty much be our overlords within a century.

>>139817500
I keep them on my backyard. 4 chikunz. Lots of delicious eggs with no drugz.

>>139817605
Not the case, they just fill them up with GH.
Look it up those super ripped bulls, thats artificial selection by reproduction, and totally another story.

>>139816068

this, fucking nazis autism

>>139818038
>Human ultra advanced genetic engineering
>Super spartan soldiers
>Zero improvement to the brain

What did they mean by this?

I don't like this kind of stuff because it means that people with shitty genetics get saved from their own cursed blood. I don't like it one bit desu

>>139818852
>>139818199

I smell heresy.

>>139815957
Because 'we' don't want our breeding controlled while demanding the breeding of others.

>>139819022
Saved? Their line ends

it would require /pol/ to admit that blacks are superior than whites in certain aspects...

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>>139815957
>Are you telling me humans couldn't achieve the same result?

But they already did it!

>>139818038
space marines arent eugenics, they're implanted with 19+ magic organs

>>139816502
German shepherd working line, best dog.
Show line, oh shit nigger, you fuck it up.

>>139816056
There's chickens out there the size of baby donkeys. It's just called breeding. My cousins have big chickens and they don't feed them chemicals and shit

>>139819727
1957 please

What I wanna know is why we can't guide wolves and cats to evolve into cute irl wolf and cat furry girls. Explain this to me.

Or at least why we can't breed animals to evolve speech. That'd be pretty cool.

>>139819727
Top Russia.

>>139815957
its not to do with iq as long as your not a nigger. A man could spend his entire life researching one subject only and be on par with a gifted person but ya it will take longer then just being born with it

>>139816486
>educate yourself
>posts wikipedia link

>>139820311
You need to select breed them to bipedal, and it is not easy at all.

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>>139818199
Think steel, or titanium or something.

>>139815957
Feefees would never allow it.

>>139815957
Actually, it would be accepted but the other way around. Husband's sperm + Scandinavian woman's egg + wife's uterus. Pefect solution, especially when made mandatory on shitskins. Women are cucks and will raise a baby esp. if they birthed it.

>>139815957
Large penises are a liability in space flight.

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>>139815957

But we do. I strongly suspect some Masons are engaged in genetic engineering with their kids. Lots more man-faced pushy females about.

why not incentivize sterilization for the handicapped?

I wonder how fast they die of enlarged hearts, leaving humanity that far behind and all.

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>>139818038

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That's a badass fucking chicken. How big is he in 2017?.

>>139816056
Not the chicken at A&W

>>139816486
Educate yourself

>>139815957
Holy shit do chickens really take +60 years to just grow a little bit?

>>139815957
that is one thicc chicken

>>139817303
Yeah because fuck people we should submit to the supreme leader and cuck ourselves, right?/

Natural selection already exists you retard.

>>139816108
What does freedom have to do with anything? You could implement eugenics with no human rights issues whatsoever. Just offer $10k in cash to anyone with a sub-100 IQ who gets voluntarily sterilized. Sure, liberals and Jews would call it racist, but who gives a shit? Nobody's being harmed and it saves money in the long run.

>>139816486
Educate yourself faggot.

>>139815957
Selective breeding is not evolution.
Also, when western societies actually had standards, there was gentle form of eugenics at work.

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>>139820249
I have read somewhere that there are chickens taller than horses too.

probably fake news tho desu

>>139815957
Being honest, this is probably not a good idea. When you select heavily for certain characteristics, you end up losing pretty much EVERYTHING else that's non-essential and you often bring along unintended traits that might be negative.

This is fine for chickens, since they only serve one purpose: food production. We can't quite as simply summarize the purpose of a human though. For that one reason, it might be wiser maintain a little genetic variability in the population, just in case you need it later.

>inb4 nationalism for all peoples
obvi

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>>139817333
This is what you got from that book? That only applies when it's the government forcing this over the population. There is literally nothing wrong with eugenics if they're voluntary because people will look after things that benefit them personally, not becoming a little worker bee zombie like government would like you have to be.

>>139822520
>Natural selection already exists you retard.
There's no environmental pressure selecting for fit individuals in civilization, anon. Smart people, the thing required to maintain it, barely breed.

>>139815957
>1957 chicken: virgin
>2005 chicken: chad

>>139815957
>letting some nebulous third party control the biological direction of human evolution

At this point it would take less time for genetic engineering to be perfected and do in two or three generations what you're proposing to do over... what, ten? twenty generations? Plus, the genetic bottleneck approach you're proposing leaves our species way open to some rando disease.

>>139820311
I'm 100% for this. Also for chimera experimentation. I'll sign up.