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Why Should A Proletariat Support Society Rather than Welfare?

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Born and raised a proletariat. Tell me why I should support society instead of go on welfare. I mean society clearly benefits the rich and wealthy, since i have no hope of joining the establishment or elites why the fuck not go on welfare? Why do we work to sustain a society with these assholes on top who consider anyone not as wealthy as them as scum unworthy of dignity?
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^Exhibit A for abolishing welfare
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>>139812915
Please, just hear me out.
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Social parasites should be eviscerated and incinerated to be honest family
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>>139813038
I didn't think ancaps hated the wealthy that much.
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>>139812825
the most important thing to note here is that we reject your false societal categories. your false ideology of marxism seeks to demonise people simply for their wealth because they are oppressors... this notion is a violation of natural law.

your beliefs turn you into hateful ignoramuses - see: your pic. i suggest accepting that everything you think about society is false, and throw out your marxist brainwashing...
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>>139812825
In hipster speak proletariat is code word for middle class Starbucks employee
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>>139813295
Do you deny that the wealthy view themselves superior? Do you deny they secretly laugh about our struggles, do you deny the wealthy do not give a flying fuck about us, do you deny the wealthy actually don't care about the world? Do you deny the fact that someone born into the proletariat class has no opportunity to succeed compared to the wealthy?
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>>139812825
Brilliant. Now, think about an entire nation having that same ideology. Where does the welfare come from?
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>>139813404
>middle class
Bro, the middle class is the modern day peasant class. The middle class works works works while all their resources are owned by big corporations whose shareholders are wealthy assholes.
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>>139813497
The corporations. Noam Chomsky said "corporations have more wealth than they know what to do with".
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>>139813435
I am superior to you. I came from a shit neighborhood and dirt poor parents and made something of myself while you whine and waste your life complaining.

I am stronger than you.
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>>139813435
They do better than you because they are smarter and harder working. Or do they cheat their way into high-stress positions that take extraordinary amounts of intelligence and work to succeed in?
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>>139813435
Your sin is sloth and envy. Have some dignity.
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>>139812825
You are a prole and wants to go on wellfare, while you at the same time doesn't support those who provide you that wellfare through taxes. Why are those who help you assholes? They might consider you scum because you leech and doesn't contribute when able.
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>>139813525
modern corporations are part of the socialist construct known as democracy. Corporations as they exist now do not follow natural order.
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>>139813603
You are a whiner bro, you are a whiner. You whine that people like me found a better way to live than working your ass off for a boss

>>139813644
My dads a state senator, do you know how fucking hard he had to work for that? Go to an Ivy League school, convince an entire state to put him in power, and then what? A salary just enough to pay basic nessasties plus a little surplus for being good goys. That's it

Meanwhile you have these royal landlords who own BILLIONS worth of wealth who were born that way. Or guys in the academic establishment like Madison Grant who did jack shit but are recognized as geniuses because their daddys were rich.

See what I mean? It's about respect, not just money itself, the wealthy dynasty families don't do anything yet they stay in respect, prestige and power.
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>>139813941
That argument I don't like. Even in Fascist Germany corporations existed, or in the U.S
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>>139813926
If i got a job would they still consider me a scum? Yes!

>"replace you? We've already replaced your kind long ago, besides we don't need you, dregs of society behind the counter at Wendys, we are industrious people"
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>>139813435
>Do you deny that the wealthy view themselves superior?
depends on the person i guess. i view myself as superior to everyone, but it has nothing to do with my wealth, but my accomplishments. you're very stupid to think you can infer the mental state of people based on how much money they have. very stupid.

>Do you deny they secretly laugh about our struggles, do you deny the wealthy do not give a flying fuck about us, do you deny the wealthy actually don't care about the world?
what?? of course i deny that! maybe the jews do that, but the average wealthy person (note, you still didn't give a threshold for what that is!?) is more focused on caring for their loved ones than disdaining poor people.

> Do you deny the fact that someone born into the proletariat class has no opportunity to succeed compared to the wealthy?
I told you: "proletariat" is a meaningless term. it means nothing. it was invented to bond you to a false oppressive jewish class structure. what is "proletariat"? it makes no sense.

Karl Marx was a scum fuck worthless kike like the rest of them... I don't poison my mind with the false teachings of jews, i suggest you do the same.
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>>139813996
Your father made that choice. If he went to an Ivy League school like you claim then he probably had more lucrative opportunities.

Oh and you're a real proletariat, the son of some Ivy League politician. Go fuck yourself champagne socialist
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>>139814152
No, they wouldn't. But lazy people will never get respect. You've got to work to earn respect. What else do you propose would be the optimal alternative?
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>>139812825
we dont care faggot, you literally run these threads to gain insight on the methods we use to un-cuck people.

DO NOT RESPOND TO THESE THREADS AND SAGE WITH EXTREME PREJUDICE!

>>SAGE

pic related, it's OP
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>>139813996
You're literally a parasite. You produce nothing and have to beg for your sustenance from others.

How can you call yourself a man? You cannot even provide for yourself. You're lower than the rats and the roaches, and all of the slithering, dirty creatures on the ground.

Even they serve a purpose in this world. You merely exist.
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>>139814238
My dad has tried many times to become a Congressmen but failed, all that work just to become a state senator

>Oh and you're a real proletariat, the son of some Ivy League politician. Go fuck yourself champagne socialist
My dad works for a salaried position meaning he's proletariat by definition. If my dad was part of the deep state, yes he'd be bourgoise, but no being a politician makes you PROLE since you are the one being exploited in society not the one doing the exploiting
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>>139813558
So you think that in that situation, corporations would decide that they would rather stick around and give their money away to people who are unwilling to work, rather than pick up and move to somewhere else where they get to keep their money? That's one of the most naive things I've ever heard.
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>>139814364
So how could I get respect?

>>139814203
>depends on the person i guess. i view myself as superior to everyone, but it has nothing to do with my wealth, but my accomplishments. you're very stupid to think you can infer the mental state of people based on how much money they have. very stupid.
So you think you're superior to every other person? Psychopath

>what?? of course i deny that! maybe the jews do that, but the average wealthy person (note, you still didn't give a threshold for what that is!?) is more focused on caring for their loved ones than disdaining poor people.
Obviously but they do think to themselves "haha stupid poor people i don't care about you don't look at me filth!" By wealthy i mean like the establishment dynasty families.

>I told you: "proletariat" is a meaningless term. it means nothing. it was invented to bond you to a false oppressive jewish class structure. what is "proletariat"? it makes no sense.
Proletariet is someone who works for a salaried position.
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>>139814414
>The social/political elite like me and my dad are being oppressed, help
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>>139814514
Just don't let the corporations bring their wealth out of the country. They can't hall trillions of dollars of infastructure and machinary out of a country
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>>139814414
>>139814564
Your ideology is outdated by at least a hundred years. Look around, do you see any factories still? No, today everybody got the opportunity to do well, as long as they aren't lazy. Get an education, it is even paid for by the socialist systems.
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>>139814614
We're not elite. He's a STATE senator you're thinking of Congressmen. State senators only make 120K a year and have basically zero political power. The DEEP STATE is the oppressor local politicians are fellow proles
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>>139814564
The president earns a salary, and is therefore proletariat by your definition

>Here comes the excuses
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>>139814622
Those corporations will pay off your dad to look the other way while they take their money offshore
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>>139814673
>get an education
I can't since you can't just do that today. Maybe in the 1850s or the 1950s everyone had a chance to do well and get an education, but today you gotta be a dynasty family member. Today you can't even get an education past high-school unless you're one of them.
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>>139812825
>Born and raised a proletariat.
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>>139814701
>State senators only make 120K a year
>only make 120k a year
>only
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>>139814708
True but he's funded and propped up by the bourgoise. So for example OBama has SOOOO much wealth given to him by Goldman Sachs and all that he's basically bourgoise. Same with the Clintons, Trumps, Bushes. Bernie Sanders and Mike Pence are examples of proletariets. Their combined net worth is not even 1 million

>>139814749
That's why you need good people in government, like Bernie Sanders.
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>>139814789
Now I'm starting to think this is bait.
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>>139814414
my dad
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>>139813941
>>139814056
Corporations are public trusts. "public" is not something that can exist in a free society. Not in that form anyone. Real Corporations would actually involve share holders being liable.

>>139813996
Yes, true. Modern nobility are propped up by communistic democracies. However, dynasty wealth exists for a reason. Not all men are equal. Egalitarianism is a farce. You can't stop inheritance.

I was dirt poor growing up. My parents were both drug addicts and I was kicked out of the house when I was 18 and I joined the Army. I saved my money invested in the stock market early. I currently own 2 duplexes that I collect rental income from.
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The proletarians voted for Trump.
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>>139814564
I can actually prove I'm smarter than everyone else. that's why I'm going to be placed in charge of the planet. it's just plain old science.

k well if you're anti "dynasty" families, you're anti Jew. it makes no sense that you'd follow the words of a jew's book designed to enslave your mind (Engels + Marx?? dafuq)

ok so having a salary makes you um.... oppressed? dont you think that's a wee bit reductionist?
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>>139814789
Ah, now i see. You are jealous. You despise the "bourgouise" because you will never become one. Your problem is natural selection, you are too stupid to progress.
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>>139812825
It's time comrade
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>>139814857
Yeah but do you see any 120K a year get you here? 120K a year is good if you want to go on vacation a bit, but you see guys like that going here? You see those guys getting into the political establishment? You think the DEEP STATE would consider 120K a year a lot? You think the banks the corporations see that as anything other than a fucking penny?
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>>139814944
Of course this is bait, i'm just refining my skills on talking to leftists.
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You should support a society that you have a real ownership stake in

Where the fuck do you think welfare comes from, magic?
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>>139814789
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>>139814996
Mah nigga. Did the same thing. Joined the Army, saved my deployment money and bought rental property.
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>>139812915
fpbp
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>>139814622
So stealing, then.
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>>139814944
I think you're a troll

>>139814996
Share holders have no steak in the matter though, for the most part.

>Yes, true. Modern nobility are propped up by communistic democracies. However, dynasty wealth exists for a reason. Not all men are equal. Egalitarianism is a farce. You can't stop inheritance.
Let me ask you this. Imagine Madison Grant, Henry Cabot Lodge Jr, Trump, George Bush Jr. These guys all came from Dynasties, did they do any work to deserve it? NO! They were born that way. Yes some people are smarter than others but that doesn't mean their children and children's children and children's children's children should be establishment DEEP STATE rulers

>>139815002
Because Clinton was worse

>>139815031
I'm anti-GLOBALIST ESTABLISMENT Jews. I'm pro-proletariet Jews. And no having a salary is oppression since you are working and what you produce goes to the person giving you the salary. Slavery in modern sense

>>139815036
It's not stupidity, it's sociology. We don't have wealth mobility, nothing I can do to get me up with the elites, it's not fair since im very smart but I can't move up since i don't have the resources to invest.
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>>139813644
>cheat their way
Is it cheating if they were handed it based on who they knew instead of just skils? Of course not, that's just (((networking))).
>positions that take extraordinary amounts of intelligence and work to succeed in
Oy vey, leaving my 2 million dollars in that diversified stock portfolio left me exhausted. I need another bailout.
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>>139812825
because there are better things to do than become a loser

pic related is for your daily reminder
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>>139815213
Welfare comes from taxes which should come from corporations

>>139815224
Well here's the thing. I don't want equality, i want equality of opportunity. Dynasties prove that's BULLSHIT since it's just who your dad was.
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>>139812825
I'm tired of people talking about cuckunism like it's good thing in any sense. I'm sorry we can't all be as mentally retarded as you, but some of us have a firm grasp on reality. Please join us, we don't like watching others suffer in their ignorance.
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>>139815342
>Share holders have no steak

Yup, definitely bait. Gorilla warfare incoming.
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>>139815338
It's not stolen if the laws change to make it government property

>>139815372
Fucking this. My cousin is a fucking retard yet he met some ((people)) in a university now he's working on wallstreet doing nothing but making so much money. This society is unbelievably fucked

>>139815393
And you think being a proletariet isn't a loser?
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>>139815342
I'm 23 years old. I'd saved up around 10k from working when i was 19. Today i got around 50k in savings. I've invested, i've been on vacations in India paid with my own money, i've bought a car with my own money.
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>>139813996
>My dads a state senator, do you know how fucking hard he had to work for that?
>im proletariat
Yall niggers posting in a troll bread
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>>139815519
>shareholders are responsible for a company rather than managment
Yep you're a troll

>>139815459
>Libaratiran
>not mentally retarded

Besides why would i want to join you guys if you want me dead? I don't like people who want to kill me.
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>>139813996
someone else called you a champagne socialist. it's true and thats why blue collar will never get behind your movement. people wanting to work and make a life for themselves hear some son of a senator telling them how they should "rise up against their masters"... what the fuck do you know kid? pull your head out of your ass and put down the marx books
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>>139815637
But here's the thing, do you have influence in society? Do you have respect, do you have prestige? This is what democracy promised us, do you have those things? If you meet a wealthy person you will understand, they see you as dirt

>>139815673
State senators only make 120K a year in my state. To be 1% you need to make 500K a year and to be rich you have to be part of the establishment you need to be part of the 0.001%. I know you're trolling but for anyone reading this is his debunk
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>>139813996
>My dads a state senator
Which state? I'm interested.
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>>139815613
ok. define for me who is part of your nation and perhaps we can get around to fixing these things the way you want them to be

inb4 muh melting pot
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>>139815694
You can't even spell Libertarian with auto-correct, though I realize you are rapidly responding. And I'm not one, I just like using the flag because of my love of freedom.
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>>139815731
And then what? My life is so fucking shit. I have nothing else to do but read Marx and see how good life could be. Life is boring in our capitalist world, and what do you mean son of Senator?

Public impressions of senators is bullshit, this isn't house of cards. Maybe congressmen are privileged but STATE senators deal with useless bullshit like too much potholes in the road and stuff like that. The deep state is who has influence.
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>>139815855
Yes, i do actually. I am a member of a political party. My friend is the advisor of the oil and energy minister, while i myself have talked to the financial and prime minister several times. They are actually interested in hearing what we young think.
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>>139815869
I'm worried if i say I will be doxxed somehow.

>>139815911
Anyone who is in America now.

>>139815912
Ok but my point is you want my kind dead, so why would i join a movemnet that wants me dead?

>>139815996
Wait are you series? I sorry i insulted you before I serously want to hear what the powerful people think. Do these people dislike the proletariet? And how did you even get in that position? I mean are you ultra-rich?
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Never met a commie who wasn't a college drop out or without a number of mental illnesses; odds are I never will
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>>139812825
You have been fed a flase story. Why would you ever identify with your slave name/class. Youre exhibiting stockholm syndrome.

What do you want? More bathrooms in your house? Learn a way of taking care of yourself that is independent of walmart before you whine about being stuck with the dregs of society
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>>139815113
>120K
You're father deserve to be taxed a 100% and have all his property seized.
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>>139815978
>Life is boring in our capitalist world
Stop right there, you have multiple lifetimes worth of things to do in your shitty 70 year lifespan. Go take some antidepressants stop trying to be sincere while shitposting.
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>>139816188
WTF? Why? I was thinking he should have lower taxes. Tax the fucking banks, tax the fucking corporations. Tax the fucking rich royalty.

>>139816181
No. I want to be the establismhnet, be the ELITES, be respected by them at least. Be like Madison Grant where he's part of the academic establishment, stop whining your ass off.
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>>139816240
Oh really, like what?
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>>139816293
Your dad is filthy rich and you dare complain being poor. That's why.
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>>139815978
yea life would be a ball under communism. go talk to anyone who has lived under communism and see how they liked it. i was just talking to someone a few days ago from venesuela. he has to mail his family food and fucking toilet paper cause they dont have fucking toilet paper.

your dad makes 120k/year and here you are complaining. did you ever think its not the system thats broken, but that you haven't figured out how to have a meaningful life? maybe you should figure that out before you try to impose a horrible system on everyone else that NO ONE here wants.
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>>139812825
Why you ask?

Look at what welfare did to nigger communities and spic countries.

You wanna live a life no better than a nigger?
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>>139815978
>nothing else to do but read marx
you can at least get out of your kosher approved echo chamber. try some Heideger, Evola, and Nietzsche
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>>139815855
>State senators only make 120K a year in my state. To be 1% you need to make 500K a year and to be rich you have to be part of the establishment you need to be part of the 0.001%. I know you're trolling but for anyone reading this is his debunk
Ya know what fuck it i'll bite both your class and mentality are bourgeoisie. you're the defintion of middle class in this country i would be classed as the proletariat because i only make 20k a year. Just because you're not in the top 1% of billionaires doesnt make you working class.
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>>139816138
I don't care what you think, I care how you act. I get pissed when someone try's to take away individual freedom. Behave yourself and you shouldn't have any problems.
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>>139816138
Yes, i am serious. It's easier to get in contact when the country only has 5 million people i acknowledge. I'm not ultra-rich, maybe middle class+. You just need to take office in different positions in youth parties and work your way up. Networking is also very vital if you want to succeed. We kind of dislike those who doesn't work as we are conservatives, but we are still for supporting them and helping them out of poverty.
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>>139816375
My dad is not filthy rich, are you fucking joking? Net worth 1.5 million dollars. Not even in the 10% bracket. When we vacation we stay at these places, I get jealous as fuck because other teenagers (im 18 now so don't scream underage) tell me about how their dads are buying them boats, cars, and other luxuries and im just like "uhhh i got a videogame for my birthday"
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>>139816409
It's not the wealth that counts, it's the respect. Jordan Peterson said no matter how much wealth you have if you are at the bottom of the social heiarchy you feel like SHIT!. Yes its good having warm water and food on your plate but knowing you have no power over society, knowing you have no influence, no respect, no anything, it's torture.

>>139816433
I did read some right-wing literature. My point is there is nothing to do but read poltics and talk on the internet. Every day this is all i do is go on /pol/ and make threads and it gets really boring.
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>>139816596
ok, confirmed troll. good one kid
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>>139816479
>Today we call the working class the "middle class" to keep them satisfied - Noam chomsky

I know you're trolling but still.
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>>139812825
Welfare is Society senpai.
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>>139816596
>tell me about how their dads are buying them boats, cars, and other luxuries
Who fucking cares? As long as you get to eat, have a house over your head, and can become the man you want to be, it's all you need in life. If you want to swallow in your misery on an imageboard, because of some degenerate have it easier than you, fine.

Here's your last (you) from me.
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>>139816138
>anyone who is in America now
So is Janet Yellen part of your nation? if so you have to go back

>Want to live on welfare. can't define my nation. Didn't know America is a multi-ethnic neoliberal empire
here is your bowl of rice to share with Jerome. Remember your privilege
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>>139816491
Believe my i haven't done shit in my life but read and talk on the internet

>>139816501
Well i have autism and can barely have a conversation so networking sounds pretty hard for me. Thing is I don't know where to begin? I mean Im 18 i just finished high-school, it's like now what? Where do i go network to meet Gorden Geko and join the establishment?

>>139816762
You're a terrible troll

>>139816924
I can't be the man i want to be.
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>>139816739
You have answered your own question.
Now ask yourself... why did you ask the question?
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Because your marxist theology is just a bullshit excuse you use to justify your own self pity and laziness.
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>>139816959
You can't define a nation. One thing i believe in is Free speech. I disagree with Janet Yellen but yes she can stay.
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>>139817058
My question is why i shouldn't go on welfare when working is just as humilating in our classist society. Never answered
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>>139817166
Why do you think working is Humiliating?
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>>139816739
incase you aren't trolling... you are 18 you said? you aren't supposed to have any influence or power on society yet. you wont even realize how stupid you are right now till you're 30. right now you are supposed to be a sponge that sucks up good ideas and skills so you can have those things later. i was 18 at one point (dabbled in anarcho communism, crimethinc ect) i should know.

heres another thing, when i go back and re-read that stuff that i was into when i was 18 i cringe so fucking hard it hurts.
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>>139817022
Honestly, the train has already left the station. You have no chance unless you attend Eton school outside of London and get top grades. You could try to join the order of the solar temple and perform some sex magic.
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>>139814701
>State senators only make 120K a year and have basically zero political power.

10/10 bait

best I've seen in months gg OP
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>>139817076
>can't define a nation
>I believe in free speech
pick one based on Greco-Roman values (white people)
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>>139817240
I think working is honourable. But when i did have a job I kept imagining the sons of the Rothschilds playing golf saying "haha imagine if we weren't rothschilds, we'd be working like sweaty freaks. HAHA".
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>>139814701
Alright you can give it p.
The highest paid state senators, Californian ones, make 110k$/year.
The lowest make less than 1k$/year.
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>>139817166
it's more humiliating to be useless. and if you are sufficiently good at working you can be the boss and mentor and all that good stuff, but you gotta pay up front in terms of working shitty jobs.

you're never going to get signed to a major record label on your first gig, you're never going to get signed to the UFC after your first mma class. it takes hard work and humility.
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>>139817257
Then what can i do to be in a position of establishmentism when im older?
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>>139812825
Because you are fucking over your fellow working class men and women. They are the ones who are going to be working hard everyday just to get their checked slash to pay for your worthless existence. You think the elites are hurt by you living off welfare? Fuck no, you know how much millions walmart makes from people using foodstamps to buy shit in their stores? The upper class gets richer and the parasite class lives happy while the working class gets fucked by both sides.
Look man, if you are raising a family, working full time and going to community college at night then I have nothing against you going to welfare and getting some extra food for your family, because I know once you graduate from college and have enough work experience you can go up the social ladder you would join the middle class. And if you need an extra push or assistance from the government to get there, I have nothing against it. I dont care what any of these ((ancap)) faggots have to say about it. But if you just decide to say fuck this and check out and decide to live off the back of your fellow working class and help the elites further exploit them then you are class traitor and a piece of shit.
FYI Marx was an upper middle class rich kid, please stop trying to bring an upper middle class solution to a working class problem Fuck Marx
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>>139817166
Class is natural in our society. The biggest indicator of future earnings is IQ. And the smartest people almost always end up at the top. Cuckunism wouldn't even work if everyone was equally stupid, and smart people don't advocate for Cuckunism.
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>>139814152
>>>139813926
>If i got a job would they still consider me a scum? Yes!
Maybe the consider you scum because you are a yoke around their necks. They have to work hard for the money they make and you just suck off their labor. No one likes a parasite son.
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>>139817478
Why do you compare yourself to people like Rothchilds?
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>>139817076
> can't define a nation
> Believes the purpose of life is to produce material objects vs. what the qualifications of life are to exist
nihilism is easy to start but impossible to finish
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>>139817584
Wealth tends to stay in dynasties. That's not IQ that's being born to rich privileged parents.
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>>139813525
Only a middle class faggot would say this. You are not proletariat you petite bourgeois
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>>139817665
Becasue they have power, influence, all that. It's like the cool kids of the adult world.
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>>139817478
Also:

Are you not happy being honorable? Is that not enough in your life?
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>>139817597
>rich people
>labour
>pay taxes
Pick one

>>139817670
That's you who just wants materialism

>>139817715
Noam Chomsky says the middle class are the most oppressed people. He said the middle class is newspeak for working class.
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>>139812825
Because SSI pays shit and is barely enough to live okay in Baja California.
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>>139817727
Why do you want Power and Influence?
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>>139817689
The majority of one's IQ is hereditary, and over half of American billionaires are self made in some manner.
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>>139817771
Honourable to me, but i mean be seen honourable by the establishment. For example

>be me 2 years ago
>in high-school
>think playing minecraft is cool
>get made fun of by cool kids
>no longer think it's cool, even though no one will ever know i play if i play it by myself, i still feel it lame after that
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>>139812825
The Proletariat are the working class. You aren't working so you would be the Lumpenproletariat. The useless to the revolutionary struggle and thus must be eliminated. Don't you communist schmucks even read Marx?
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>>139817799
>Noam Chomsky says the middle class are the most oppressed people. He said the middle class is newspeak for working class.
who gives a shit what some rich jew has to say, you are not working class and neither is he. I suggest you shut the fuck up and stop trying to act like you are a member of blue collar America
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>>139812825
Because deep down you will feel like a worthless piece of shit. You won't be producing anything of value. Your life will be meaningless.
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>>139817899
Well it is lame.

And you are wasting your social status, you could have joined the cool kids club a long time, I guess a senator can sit in the cool kids table if he really wants to.
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>>139817832
I don't know. Jordan Peterson said it's the natural drive in humans to want that. I guess it's a good feeling knowing that the people around you, the society you live in, benefits you, rather than reaps from you. Examples.

If i was rich and saw a policemen I'd think
>he's there to protect our freedom, wealth, and keep us safe

But since im proletariet i see a policeman and think
>scum defending the bourgoise and establishment

If i was rich and saw a court i'd think
>it's there to keep justice, and rule of law

But since im a prole i see a court and think
>system designed to oppress my people

If i was rich I'd see society as much more positive since im benefiting from it, but because im the one getting reaped i see it all as negative.
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>>139812825
That's exactly why welfare shouldn't exist. People like you.
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>>139817799
> Hey guys. Which path to materialism should I take
> That's you who just wants materialism
pick one

I will assume you have no children or have even contemplated this stage of maturity
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>>139817534
idk, the particulars depend on the field that you wanna go into, but generally speaking, find something that you have some interest in or find meaningful, that is also useful to others (no "i wanna be a professional bucket drummer" shit) learn as much as you can about that thing, get as close to that thing as you can. work for free if you must. this is the point where you have to work hard and make yourself necessary. that is to say, no one wants to can you cause they need you and they like being around you. theres more to it than that, but thats the general strategy. it's not rocket science, and it will work. you're 18 and thank god for that. it means you have a lot of room to fuck up too. so maybe you get a little down one path and find that it sucks, you can totally switch paths. no problemo
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>>139812915
/thread

also, niggers
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>>139817958
If you read the rest of his comments you will see he is actually a petite bourgeois, mad at the elites because he has to work in order to make a living instead of writing poetry and drinking coffee with his hipster friends like he would in a communist utopia
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>>139817979
Blue collar aren't working class. The white collar is the working class because they sustain corporate America while blue collars work for small businesses

>>139818011
If i get a job yes, if i go on weflare, then no

>>139818022
I tried to join them but they cornered me at the bus stop and said "you better stay away freak" and then they'd punch my arm.
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>>139817689
Not to mention that there hasn't been anything even akin to a dynasty in the western world for centuries. And people aren't just given a place because of "privilege". You are where you are because of one's own effort and ability, or that of your predecessors. And there biological ability is passed down via reproduction. In short, if you have something, you tend to deserve it.
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>>139818106
I don't want materialism. I just want to have control and influence and power over people while they respect me.
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>>139812825
>i'm an edgey adult that never grew out of being a teenager
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>>139817899
OK
You want to be seen by those who you see as cool or simply because you admire them. Or maybe you look up to them and want to be noticed.

does that sound right?
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>>139818193
>us upper middle class hipsters in gated communities are the true oppressed working class
kek you are trolling bruh, you gots to me
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>>139818130
Well I kind of already screwed up my life in grade 11. Got 80% average which isn't enough to get anywhere in an ivy league school. Problem is im really good at math and English and really wanted to do finance since i like the idea of being part of wallstreet. Had an interest in wallstreet since 2008 recession. But I learned it's all nepotism, and who your father was, and if you're Jewish or not. Not even joking Jews are treated much better there. It's also being automated like crazy and unless you have an ivy league degree you aren't moving up there.
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>>139818070
What would need to change in order for you to break out of that Mind set?

Why not replace the word 'Rich' with 'Honorable' and see how you feel about it,
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>>139814920
"vote for the good guy and the bad guys will stop cheating!!!!"
This nativity is why the far left is used as a tool to manipulate by higher powers, the idea that you can vote billionaires into justice is fiction, because they aren't interested in "playing fair"
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>>139818193
You are not only an idiot, but you sound like a faggy little bitch. That flag choice fits you perfectly.
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>>139818252
learn to control yourself first. otherwise you will be a tyrant and people will hate you and you will secretly hate yourself
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>>139818193
That sounds like you had a chance and you blew but it by being a sissy.

Despise that, a guy with your contacts can easily get a job, and don't do the lame "rich kids don't work shit", they got buttfucked more often than not and I'm not sure they like it cause otherwise they wouldn't be so petty.
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>>139818491
Thanks for the image, saved, will use in the future.
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>>139818181
That comment actually made me laugh but very inaccurate. I'd be happy working if i actually worked for a society that benefitted me

>>139818305
>us people who own our own production are the working class! Not you in pic reltaed
Nice trolling
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>>139818414
Screw Ivy league. Go learn a trade, or an apprenticeship instead. Become a swordsmith or something instead.
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>>139812915
Pretty much this.
>>139812825
>Why do we work to sustain a society with these assholes on top who consider anyone not as wealthy as them as scum unworthy of dignity?
You have some bizarre misconceptions.
I suspect someone is manipulating you with lies
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>>139818252
>I just want to have control and influence and power over people while they respect me.
Start collecting dirt on every jew and traitor you know then come back here and post it
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>>139818070
You are honorable in this.
Strike out the old Socialist/Communist description of yourself.

If i was Honorable and saw a policemen I'd think
>he's there to protect our freedom, wealth, and keep us safe
If i was Honorable and saw a court i'd think
>it's there to keep justice, and rule of law
If i was Honorable I'd see society as much more positive since im benefiting from it,
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>>139818414
So your actual ability can't keep up with your ego, therefore you will take what you are incapable of earning for yourself. You have communism down by gummy!
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>>139814996
>>139815274
Both you literally voluntarily enslaved yourselves to the American Empire to further crush the poor of the world into the ground on behalf of the elite.

You did not "pull yourselves up", you leeched from the government like pathetic worthless rodents for years, and now you are given some middle class status while (((they))) reap the benefits at four times the rate that you benefit.

Meanwhile, half of the brothers you fought alongside with are suffering at the hands of PTSD, or living on the streets with mental disorders, etc. You were lucky to come out of it the way you did.

For some minor personal gain, you are both perpetuating the abuse that (((they))) are inflicting on the world and your kin. You are selfish and blind to the damage that you have caused.

Kill yourselves now.
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>>139816293
You sound jealous and bitter. Its unbecoming of an elite gentleman
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>>139818584
I don't care if they hate me. I just want people to look at me as "wow that guy has power, influence, all that". For example even being a cop would be good but A. I'm weak as shit and B. cops are seen as worthless brutes by the establishment.

>>139818586
You're a sissy. There was 4 of them and im one person. How could i have done anything? And i have NO contracts. I used to have a job, a pretty good one but i quit because i realized everything i produced went to the corporation.
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>>139818806
Doing something against a punch in the arm?

How fucking sheltered you are?
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>>139818414
college is kinda a scam anyway. trade school is good, but whatever man. choose a different thing. you have all the time in the world. here's another funny thing, i bet warren buffet would trade all of his assets just to be 18 again. time is money, in that sense you're pretty wealthy. don't blow it being a fucking commie.
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>>139818674
Then the elites will see me as a proletariet forever!

>>139818762
But im afraid that's not true. I see police as there to defend the establishment, and courts to ensure the wealthy keep their riches.

>>139818802
Elites don't need to be bitter since they are already elites!
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>>139818181
Really aren't all communists bourgeois wanna be's despite not having the ability to become one without stealing from others?
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>>139818414
>Problem is im really good at math and English and really wanted to do finance since i like the idea of being part of wallstreet.
>But I learned it's all nepotism, and who your father was, and if you're Jewish or not.
>>139818806
>"wow that guy has power, influence, all that"
So get a PhD in finance and become an academic.
Great thinkers have far more influence than cocaine addicts who buy and sell numbers all day.
And if that doesn't sound good to you, hell, start your own brokerage firm if the others won't have you
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>>139818961
>Then the elites will see me as a proletariet forever!
But you'll be an useful and respected asset to your community when the system collapse and the elite sit on a useless mountain of fiat money.
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>>139817478
If you aren't a troll (you are). Your lack of success and feelings of inadequacy are because you are the sub 100 IQ son of a mildly gifted outlier. I can tell from your writing and naiveté that you are stupid, add mild autism to that, and you are faced with the reality that you will never even approach the accomplishments of your Ivy League, state senator father. This will leave you both with a sense of entitlement, and profound inadequacy, leading to an obsession with class, due to your innate inability to remain within the social class of your ancestry. Que your obsession with Marxist theory.


TLDR you're a perfect candidate for antifa
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>>139818912
What could I have done. I will tell you

>Option 1. Take it and pretend it didn't hurt
What I did, I just went "huh, and brushed it off pretending like i didn't even feel it

>Option 2. telling the teacher
Will never be accepted by them

>Option 3. Fight back
Get suspended, not be friends with them, have my dad get mad at me, never get into university

>>139818925
How is university a scam? And i know trade is good but will never make you establishment.
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>>139819088
Punch him back, equally amount of force if possible, fuck I know you have autism but that's minimal male interaction.
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>>139819041
>So get a PhD in finance and become an academic.
That's a good idea, problem is I will not get accepted to Ivy League, at BEST i will get accepted into Cornell which I don't think wallstreet will take a Cornell student seriously

>start your own firm
I heard you can't really do that. In wolf of wallstreet they said "that's nearly impossible" and it was if it weren't for him breaking the law and going to jail doing it.

>>139819074
Elites are the ones causing this shit, they know to invest in something worthwhile long before then.

>>139819086
Nice bait.
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>>139818806
what good is all this "influence" if you got no good wisdom? how would you influence anyone when you got nothing to say other than some shit you read in a book? what would you do with all this power with out any humility? your lack of humility is what is making you unhappy btw. your desires are outpacing your abilities
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>>139819280
Yeah but then you get suspended. Plus they were way bigger than me. I was 5'11 and this guy was like 6'4 they'd just laugh as i punch and go "HAHAHAHA he punches like a bitch".
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>>139818806
>>>139818584
>I don't care if they hate me. I just want people to look at me as "wow that guy has power, influence, all that". For example even being a cop would be good but A. I'm weak as shit and B. cops are seen as worthless brutes by the establishment.
Why would anyone give you power or influence? You literally do nothing worth anything to anyone. My cat does more to befit society by making them laugh with a funny video. All you are is a bummer and buzz kill. You wouldn't even make a good speed bump for more than one or two cars.
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>>139819310
Honestly nothing. I don't want power as in power to change. I mean power as in respect. Like being the cool kid at high-school. You dont have real power but you have respect and everyone listens to you,
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>>139819088
>Option 3. Fight back
there is only one reason they fight you anyway
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>>139819088
college is a scam depending on the field of study. molyneux talks about it a lot. i saw it with my friends. degrees are becoming less valuable and tuition more expensive.
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>>139818961
Try to challenge those beliefs as often as you can.
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>>139819280
>Nice bait.
You know absolutely everything in that post was true. It's okay, the sooner you come to terms with it, the less painful it'll be.
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>>139812825
Without society to pay for welfare there is no welfare.

In the coming purge I hope you're one of the first to be lined up and shot.
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>>139819433
>I don't want power as in power to change. I mean power as in respect.
there is only strength in unity. where are your fucking friends at? didn't you say your dad is a politician?
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>>139819670
Yeah but I have no friends I get bullied
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>>139819618
I actually feel it was except you called me a troll I'm not even trolling everything I'm saying is honest. I was suprised you knew I do have mild autism which is exactly what I was diagnosed with
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>>139813435
The majority of wealthy are self made, not born into wealth. There is a massive upward flow, you can go from homeless to millionaire in a lifetime.

>>139813996
Nigga you don't live off the wealthy, your welfare is paid by the rest of us. Of course you are seen as scum.

>>139813996
>state senator
>just enough to survive
Thats why your economics are fucked up. You dont have a sober grasp of what 'basic neccesities' look like.

>>139814920
Expecting economic improvement from someone whose been making 400k per year for 40 years and only has a house and a sports car to show for it.
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>>139819370
Dude if the son of the senator punches like a bitch you just roll with it, they aren't going to beat you up, mostly because bullies are brutes, but not retards.
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>>139819538
I do but I don't see it considering all the rich criminals not getting charged
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>>139812825
So your children can have a good life and your nation can compete.

t.not a filthy nihilist
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>>139819767
time to lift and stop being a bitch
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>>139819523
But without a degree you will never join the elites
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>>139819463
And what is that?
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>>139819294
In academia you will be judged primarily on your work, not what school you went to.
How good your ideas are is more important about where you were educated.
But whatever.

If making a stock brokerage company is illegal or too hard then do make a crypto brokerage firm instead.
It's basically the same as stock trading except bitcoin is used instead of USD and it's more volatile.
If you can handle the stress and are willing to put in the effort, crypto trading isn't that hard and can be very profitable
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>>139819846
I don't have a problem with you making money. The problem is these dynasties who not only have memes wealth but memes respect and power for doing nothing
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>>139819433
lots of ways to accomplish this. gain a high level of competency in something like mma or guitar or surfing or whatever. again this takes a lot of work, but people respect people who are good at a thing and you'll get friends from that too. idk, getting sleepy now. but you'll be ok. just drop the fuckin commie shit (its a waste of time), work hard at something and you'll be alright.
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>>139819851
Dude. Being a senator son means jack shit. They still threw food at me in the cafe and would punch me in the halls which was bad enough. Not the pain, but the psychological aspect of being dominated by someone else and not being able to do anyting
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Yeah, why do you? Fags
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>>139819908
I am an exomorph with a weak chin. Lif ting won't help
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>>139812825
Society benefits the competent.
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>>139820153
Is your father very well known?
You might be able to make a career by riding his shadow and forming a political dynasty.
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>>139819994
That's actually a good idea. But won't bitcoin be out of fashion by then?
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>>139820050
Ok I'll try that. But by respect I meant like respect frm the important people not just regular masses
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>>139819930
you have the mindset of an individual and someone who doesn't stand up him themselves

>oh well i'll just check out and go on welfare
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>>139820237
I can't say for sure, but personally I think bitcoin isn't going to go anywhere except up.
Bitcoin, or something like it, is the future.
Even if it doesn't hit the mainstream it'll probably take over the illegal black market scene to the point that our kids will think it's absurd we had to go out and talk to people to buy drugs.
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>>139820229
No he's a no name jack fuck all piece of shit who sits in a fucking chair all day doing jack shit. I'm sorry but im actually getting mad in this thread I came looking for answers on why society is actually fair and good and not what I thought but it's only confirming my beliefs
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>>139820197
Body phenotypes are a meme.
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>>139820434
Well I'm just really lanky. Like slender man. And small neck, chin, hands,and all that. Lifting can't change tht
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>>139820153
Look here you see this flag?

I went to school in the middle of the desert, my father was a political dissenter in a period in my country when it wasn't very safe to be one, my school instead of sewers had a big hole in the backyard.

You weren't bullied, you simply couldn't deal with the other kids being normal kids.
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>>139820549
Yes it can. Eat food and lift. No point moaning about it.
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>>139819910
If you actually want real advice on how to live a happy life, here it is.

Find a nice girl and start a family.

This is the source of happiness and fulfillment for 99.999% of humanity throughout history. Fuck the "establishment" rat race, fuck the nihilistic hedonism pervasive in modern culture. Once you have kids, you will know exactly why you shouldn't be a worthless welfare leech, and you won't even have to think about it.
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>>139820677
This.
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>>139812825
When the money runs out, do you want to be starving?
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>>139820549
so you have a long reach but you can't fight or lift?
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>>139820677
this. but no woman wants a skinny soy boy. go lift
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>>139820562
>my father was a political dissenter in a period in my country when it wasn't very safe to be one


Did Augusto have to throw your dad out of a helicopter for being a commie piece of shit?
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>>139820562
They were being very abnormal. They punched me in the arm. In my state they are passing laws labelling kids who bully and harass for no reason mentally ill. I hate to use movie references but if you ever saw back to the future. Remember biff? He was a bully and the whole town hated him. That's how we see bullies
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>>139820594
What about the weak chin? And I have a small head so lifting would just be weird. I actually look very much like ReviewBraw
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>>139820549
also, lifting and exercise will make you think and feel better like you are actually capable of accomplishing things
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>>139820677
First off I'm antI materialistic. I just want power even if it means having no wealth. Second I need to get respect via establishment elites to get a wife since I have autism
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>>139812825
If you work and earn more money, you get a bigger room to clean.
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>>139820916
Just some old fashion beatings and electricity.

>>139821005
Yes but those are just high school bullies, just mean kids doing mean things, you punch them back and that's it, now they declared war on you or something you could had at least more social interaction from school, instead you played minecraft, and that's lame.
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>>139821092
That's probably true. But won't that be a false sense of delusion?
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>>139821197
The kids were wayyy bigger than me. And if my dad found out I punched someone I would get in shit
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>>139821055
> muh chin
you always tuck your chin. watch any boxer

don't wait for someone to beat you up before you decide to defend yourself
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>>139812825
>society clearly benefits the rich and wealthy
richness and wealth is the reward, you moron. Society rewards those who contribute to it, and relative to the degree which you contribute. There's a reason you faggots can't get a good job with a genders studies degree, because it contributes absolutely zero to society materially. If you want to be rich and wealthy, become a mechanical, electrical, or mechanical engineer, save your 6 figure income, start a business, or just invent and patent something with your scientific knowledge. The fact you faggots don't understand that wealth comes from applying your effort to nature to create something that improves others lives, is exactly why you believe what you believe and suffer like you suffer. Antifa are DARWINIAN EXCESS and even giving them the bullet is a waste of resources. Just let them starve, like communists are so good at doing.
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>>139821262
Yes.

Things, problems punches and shit, maybe then you will gather some courage to touch a boob and get a job.
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>>139821323
I mean you need a chin to be a chad. That's why the chad memed always have a well pronounced chin
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>>139813404
Sensible kek
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>>139821363
Mechanical or electrics engineers will never be rich. Ever. Most only make 6 figure income
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>>139821203
truth is a consensus not an absolute reality. Truth is what can be agreed upon (mathematics). Enough with the nihilism. your boy pussy is a false sense of delusion
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>>139821262
>muh dad
If your dada told you to sit down when you pee are you going to do it.
>here son, where this dress to school
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It's bad for your credit.
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>>139821495
Holy fuck if you want to be rich so much just make it into politics and be corrupt, fuck it's not rocket science, republicans do it.
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>>139821501
Stfu with your boy pussy. 1984 doublethink isn't real. Truth is objective

>>139821617
Funny you say that my mom did make me wear women's clothes sometimes. I'm not even joking. But Its just if I fought back the school would have called my dad and my mom and dad would yell at me
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>>139821691
My dad is in politics and is proletariet as shit. And politics is very hard. Rocket science is fucking simple comparrison
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>>139821798
>Funny you say that my mom did make me wear women's clothes sometimes

We may be reaching the source of your problems friend.
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>>139821852
It's not hard at all fucker, you go there do what you have to do and hope for the best, my dad got electrocuted and he still doesn't thinks it's hard.
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>>139821953
That's got nothing to do with it. I hated my mom's pasicifst ideology since kids at school would best me up and throw stuff at me and my mom always defended them saying they weren't raised right so she would try to help them out. My dad was always at the capital so I raised myself on the internet. I learned about ayn rand noam chomsky alex jones Molyneux Peter josepf and all these guys when I was 12 and spent lots of time on imageboards and stuff. I really wanted to be an ubermensch but I couldn't I never had the courage to apply what I learned. How could I be like John Galt when I couldn't even pay attention in class how can I be an uber mensch when I'm so weak I cant even fight back (mentally weak)
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>>139813029
There's principle and practicality to balance, it might well be perfectly fine to relax on benefits in today's west.
I was studying Buddhism when my master told me it was perfectly fine to live off welfare in this society. I can't Zen you up in a /pol thread so in brief...
1) If you are improving and/or improving society its fine to live on welfare.
2) If it is not doing any harm to live on welfare it's fine to do so.
So you need to ask if their are any consequences. You must take in mind the economic system we suffer within, will it be harmful to not take part in this?
It's complex, too complex for off the cuff remarks and each person has different karma and so may reach a different decision.
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>>139821798
>Funny you say that my mom did make me wear women's clothes sometimes. I'm not even joking. But Its just if I fought back the school would have called my dad and my mom and dad would yell at me
this is child abuse. Time to DEFOO Molyneaux style
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>>139821969
You are right. I honestly fell into nihilism from this thread I don't even care anymore. Screw what my parents think they are idiots anyway
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>>139822294
Devils advocate. Wouldn't it be harming the tax payers since you are taking their money by force?
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>>139822340
That's the spirit.

I'll see you here tomorrow cause you go from here to endemic depression again.

t. certified therapist
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>>139822295
Did molyneux dissociate with his family?
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>>139812825
You wanna be a prole for the rest of your life? And for your children? And your children's children? All sucking on welfare teat, never learning to survive on anything other than government handouts or aspiring to be something more than livestock?
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>>139822506
Idk it's just I forget a lot when I sLee so I may forget what I learned in the thread
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>>139813435
>Do you deny that the wealthy view themselves superior? Do you deny they secretly laugh about our struggles, do you deny the wealthy do not give a flying fuck about us, do you deny the wealthy actually don't care about the world?
People aren't required to be humanitarian

>Do you deny the fact that someone born into the proletariat class has no opportunity to succeed compared to the wealthy?
Chomsky is wrong about class mobility
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>>139822693
That's bullshit but I believe you, sleep well anon.
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>>139822406
>taking tax payers money by force
Emotive semantics, you should slow down.
Literally the opposite is true of course, you would be receiving money you are entitled to through passiveness.
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>>139822795
How do you know I'm a noam chomsky fan

>>139822809
You too.
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>>139822615
Any healthy male child will disassociate from his mother and identify with a more masculine environment
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Thread theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec0XKhAHR5I
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>>139822949
>How do you know I'm a noam chomsky fan
??

I replied before reading the thread but since then I can see you've mentioned him 5 or 6 times.

I imagined what you said had to do with Chomsky because I watched that RFTAD documentary he was in and he said something very similar regarding class mobility, it's not true though.

I hold some anarchist beliefs as far as I believe all authority to be illegitimate but have since come to the conclusion that although illegitimate and 'immoral' it is absolutely required for a functioning society.
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>>139812825
Because if everyone were as weak and prideless as you we'd be living in a third world hellhole where everyone is lazy and prefers handouts to something earned. The change starts with you, setting an example starts with you. Let's hope others don't follow your shitty example, you shitty person.
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If you love welfare, you should fear communism. You don't get welfare under communism, you get a job. If you cannot work, you die.

I'm not joking, I fled the ussr because of these horrors. Western capitalism is to thank for your welfare, under communism you would not enjoy it.
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>>139823039
What do you mean by that? Like I cant like my mom or I just identfy as something else?
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>>139813029
This pity (You) was given to you by pure voluntary charity
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>>139823336
I disagree. I think wealth mobility is non existance
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>>139823475
I am not communist

>>139823600
Please leave
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>>139823432
The change doesn't start with him though. His parents and grandparents and grand parents grandparents worked hard for a living and have nothing left to show for it. He's got a good point. Republicans like to fool average schmucks into buying into the American dream which is all bullshit. You'll never get rich unless you get lucky. You can work at a great job forever and you'll never become the CEO of that company. You won't be able to start a huge business either unless someone invests in you and why would they? All the rich people who got rich by luck all admit the first million was by far the hardest. Once you got that it's easy to turn it into dozens more.
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>>139820432
Life isn't fair. Why would society be fair?
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>>139824157
Thats why we need marxism
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>>139824266
No. That's a terrible idea, you already know it will only bring suffering to everyone involved. You're the man with a headache banging his head against the wall. That's how you got the headache in the first place but you think it'll cure it too.
The cure for unfairness isn't universal unfairness.
('Fait'/'unfair' is a 4 year olds view of life BTW)
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>>139812825
why should society support proletariat? you go to gulag
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>>139824632
You have a four year olds view

>>139824706
Because we are innoccent and create everything
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>>139823785
Most millionaires in the US start out with a small business. They didn't inherit it, they earned it. Want to be a millionaire in the US? Start a small business, re-invest in the business. When you start to earn profit, invest for the long term. It ain't easy, but it is very do able.
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>>139824776
if you create everything, why do you need society to pay for you?
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>>139812825
Humanitarianism is pro-human, and anti-Nature. It isn't you vs. other humans, it is whether you deserve to exist.
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>>139824776
You know that if you don't work under communism you're treated way worse than under capitalism, right?
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>>139824776
>>>139824706
>Because we are innoccent and create everything

Again who is this 'we' you aren't working, you are not the proletariat. You wouldn't survive in a communist system because you have no value to the system. Try actually reading Marx.
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>>139812825
No reason to support society. It hasn't created anything of value. Whites are the oppressors. We ned to eradicate them from existence
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>>139824839
Because the bourgoise take everything


>>139824962
I am anti communist
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>>139824804
I'm not just talking millionaire. I'm talking establishment. Like clintons
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>>139825035
My class I mean. And yeah I don't work since I woke up
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>>139812825

You're not a "proletariat", you're a ((((corporate)))) bootlicker that lets his morals be shaped by Goldman Sachs' muh diversity propaganda.
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>>139823604
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/state-of-the-nation-report-on-social-mobility-in-great-britain

"today only 1 in 8 children from low-income backgrounds is likely to become a high-income earner as an adult"

It's bad, not non existent. I agree that crisis era capitalism is to blame, but have come to the slow realisation that stricter limitations on capitalism would be favourable to any marxist or socialist solution. The devastation that would be caused by a social/economic revolution would leave a country in tatters, honestly, most proles are too fucking thick to embrace change anyway, it's a lost cause.
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>>139812825
thats the album cover of a Croatian rap group in the OP
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>>139818252
this post yells i just become 18 years old
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>>139825433
You say that yet support gOldman sach and zionists and support mass immigration
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>>139825632
High income is still proletariet. I mean no proletariet will ever become establishment
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>>139825798
I became 18 two month ago
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>>139825433
You can say antifa has a pro-islamic agenda because antifa is not an ideology but a self proclaimed group that can be judged by the actions and intentions of the majority, but to say the same of Anarchists is an immense show if ignorance to anarchism.

Actual anarchists, not LARPers who don't know the meaning of the word, are opposed to any form of hierarchy, most absolutely hate islam as it is an incredibly oppressive religion. The anarchist motto is 'No Gods, No Masters'.
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https://youtu.be/zbg2uoAs4vw

just passing with original source of pic
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>>139812825
>Why should a slave risk uncertainty in freedom instead of living in the safety of servitude?
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>>139818252
>I just want to have control and influence and power over people while they respect me.

Oh wow, I'm really wasting my time talking to you, you're not an anarchist you're a fucking child.

I realise now you're new to 4chan or /pol/ specifically and you hadn't worked out poster IDs which is why you asked how I knew you were a Chomsky fan.

Hint: It's the bit next to 'Anonymous' that says ID:
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>>139826008
Anarcissistic are pro islam
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>>139825898
kek, then stop complaining like a little bitch. If you want to be respected just work hard as shit in STEAM related shit. Even the social science (political class included) pseudo intellectuals shut their fuckin mouths when STEM phds talk
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>>139826208
You want control and power too. It's obvious you are just a child because everyone just wants power.
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>>139826351
Yeah but you can't just study stem
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>>139812825
You are the quintessential example of why communism never could or would work. As soon as you get your panties in a twist about someone else you refuse to work. And you wonder why people think kids like you are fucking idiots?
>waaaahhh I can't win this game because I'm not smart/strong/educated enough to play by the rules so I refuse to play until everyone else changes the rules to suit my handicap
You realize in a communist society they would just take you out back and put a bullet in your head they wouldn't give 1 fuck what you thought about the rules right?
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>>139826414
dude is there a world outside ivy league collegues in jewmerica, fuck even me in tacoland got a shit ton of opportunities to go to collegues that easily can eclipse a ivy league science program.
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>>139826747
Don't even say that. Ivy League is objectivily better. Besides I cant I don't have the marks to get into science?
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>>139826672
>wahhhhhhhh commies are mean wahhhhh
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>>139826298
>Anarcissistic are pro islam
You can't spell 'anarchists'?

>>139826357
>You want control and power too. It's obvious you are just a child because everyone just wants power.
You are a liberal female or sexually confused liberal male from the USA, your age is between 17-19 (I would find it troubling to learn that you were any older than that), you found r/anarchism on tumblr or perhaps from a genderqueer classmate some time after J20, this is your first time posting on 4chan.

OR you are a 17-19 year old stormfag false flagging, either way you're a maggot with no idea about anarchism and a severely stunted insight on the world/politics.
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>>139826815
>Don't even say that. Ivy League is objectivily better
Do you even see where the latest and groundbreaking shit has come out? I'm not even talking about schools
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>>139826953
Mexico pls, let's slide this one now.
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>>139826850
I didn't say commies are mean. If anything you're just a walking joke and will eventually grow out of your rebellious phase like everyone else when you eventually graduate college. You can avoid it all you want but you know that last post was the truth.
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>>139827005
ok but fuck with this fag and his burgerland centrism
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>>139812825
>anybody with more money than me is innately patronising and evil

I guess if I only saw the world in abstractions and platitudes, I too would be a communist
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>>139812825
You should fight for a white America and European Europe.
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>>139812825
You realize that it's other members of the 'proletariat,' that pay for your welfare, yes?
You're scum.
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>>139813996
>entitled whiny antifa faggot calls others whiners
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