Commies

>>139802444
Kill him

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>>139802444
communism doesn't work for the right reason.
capitalism works for the wrong reason.
natsoc works for the right reason

>>139802444
Gulag

>>139802692
fpbp

>>139802444
just say that neither work yet one was run into the ground whilst capitalism is still thriving

Listen to him

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>>139802733
I came here to say this.

>>139802444
tell him to kys to preserve resources for others he might do it

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A good pejezombie is a dead pejezombie. Help us to not get into this madness!!!!!
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>>139802444
Your friend is retarded, yet even a broken clock shows the right time twice per day. Capitalism sucks.

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Here you go bud this might help

>>139803021
This is like instant gg

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>>139802444
>>139802444
Nice trips. Long story short you're going to need to take a hardline approach towards your friend and his material possessions.

Let him know that you are part of the Collective and you require him to give you a portion of his goods so that you may repurpose them for the Collective ideals.

When he refuses, beat his ass into the ground and enforce an even heavier penalty, demand more of his products for the Collective.

Rinse and repeat until he gives in or is no longer your friend. Once he is no longer your friend, continue pushing for your share of the Collectives property so that it may be repurposed for the greater good.

When he threatens to phone the police, you must then tell him that you are the police. Proceed by shooting him in the skull somewhere between the nasal and ocular cavities.

Once his brain is no longer operative or functional, take all of his things.

That should make him see the light.
Thank you, have a wonderful day, Tovarisch.

Kill him. The only good commie is a dead commie

>>139803021
commies btfo

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>>139802444
Both do not work, communism is oppression capitalism is exploitation answer is market rights protected socialism.

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>>139802444
Ask him how many cosmonauts have walked on the moon. Ask him how many robots has Russia landed on Mars. Ask him how many nuclear powered aircraft carriers does Russia have patrolling the world's oceans. Ask him how many fucks does he think you give about what he thinks. The answer to all those questions is FUCKING ZERO. Capitalism works. Deal with it.

>>139804090
you're confusing capitalism with corporatism.
capitalism is king.

>>139804308
No, capitalism refers to the ability of a few to monopolize the labor and service of the many, protecticesocialism protects the rights of the manys trade.

Capitalism works - extremely well - but it only seeks to further itself and has no consideration for the lower classes.

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>>139802444

>>139804308
Protective Socialism organizes the labor of the many for public works to the increase of the trades by building roads, farms, factories, schools, hospitals, residential areas etc..

Read Hayek. Get more knowledgeable on economics than him.

>>139804523
monopolies don't form under capitalism without the assistance of government. It would literally be impossible for one to form under a stateless society.

the problem isn't capitalism, it's government.

>>139804612
>works
The only thing thats working is the monopolization of control of the people, there is nothing gained by this monopolization other than the concentration of wealth to a few and barring the many from trade.

>>139804788
I like where this ancap anon is coming from.

Imagine, if government had never given WalMarts and McDonalds zoning permits for their thousands upon thousands of locations...

>>139804689
Go socialism, yay to natsoc

>>139804788
How is it imppsdible for someone to form an organization with the majority of the owners of a trade and monopolize it concentrating all wealth of a trade to them excluding the many from the trade?

There is absolutely nothing good about a stateless society.

>>139805042
I don't mean to sound like an asshole, but could you rephrase that?

>>139805042
I fsil to see a single benefit to the people from a stateless society other than a people the beneficiaries such as resource owners.

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I see where this is going.

Time to hit the old Dusty Trail.

>>139802444
We have never practiced true capitalism so there's no possible way you can shit on it, it's never been tried.

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> pic is your pathetic commie friend

just shoot him and get it over with

>>139802444

Trick him into buying a one-way plane ticket to Venezuela in order to prove you wrong about how Communism is superior to Capitalism.

>>139805158
10 people unite their trades to form a business that floods the trade of the community denying the many from trading, how is this good for the many without protective measures to secure the communities trades are respected?

>>139805042
the people wouldn't want a monopoly to form. all they would have to do is stop buying goods from that particular company.
>'but what if it's the only company selling that particular product'
this would never happen, there will always be another company willing to create the same product.
>'but what if these smaller companies are all bought by the huge company before they have chance to grow'
they can keep doing that. sooner or later though, they'll run out of money since they're spending so much on trying to buy out these smaller companies and aren't getting the support from the people that they need.

>>139805565
I honestly cannot.

Thank you for your time, "Black Nationalist" anon.

>>139805557
Communism can not be tried and capitalism is what venezuela has, how is venezuela not successful if hugo chavez daughter is a billionaire?

>>139805729
See, I'm just going to point out this obvious troll right here.

It's been fun guys, but this thread shit the bed, and OP isn't even replying anymore.

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>>139805729
>capitalism is what venezula has
okay now i know you're fucking b8ing

>>139802444
Be more selective when picking friends. wasn't the commie quiff a big red flag? -no pun intended.

>>139805853
Oof

I've just been watching this whole thing play out. I didn't know what to do since I don't know too much in politics(hence the reason I am here)

>>139806006
From what I remember, I don't think he used to be a commie until high school when we learned about world history

>>139806154
>i can't think for myself so the internet will decide my opinion

You are a pathetic little shit

>>139806432
Pretty much sums me up

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>>139806432
Nice one.

>>139806343
There's something strange in their families, like fond memories about working without any economic reward; he had any hippie/libshit relative? Or maybe a coal burner aunt?

>>139806698
He was raised by a single mother

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>>139806343
Ok well, unless your friend is planning on starting or joining a revolutionary force which may or may not have aims of overthrowing local/state/federal governments, I'd say, let him shittalk.

You of course can shit talk him back, and if this strains your friendship, I'd dare say you were not truly friends to begin with.

What the fuck do I know though. Please don't take my opinion as advice.

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>>139806533
thats fine.
just make sure that you don't take everything here as fact. if you find a particular ideology/topic interesting, do your own research on it, research opposing ideologies,figure out why you oppose them, form your own opinions etc.

>>139805042
>>139805042
It is the nature of the free market to fill literally any niche where there is money to be made, given everybody acts in their own self interest. A company outside of what you're describing will come to be
>But they own all the means of production
It would take one company buying their resources for more than they make from outside the coalition to stop that. And a company would do that, because consumers would then flock to them for having prices that aren't (as) artificially high. And the coalition would do that, because more money > less money.
>But they would buy any company that is potential competition
Eventually that would stop working, as as each company in the coalition gets a smaller % of the money (ass the coalition gets bigger) it would tend towards not joining the coalition being more profitable.

>>139807016
I find these discussions interesting by seeing other points of view which is basically research... right?

>>139807209
The key flaw in your logic is that people are irrational beings and will always be irrational.

>>139807369
And capitalism is a meritocratic system for weeding out the people who act the most irrational the most frequently, while government is the opposite and arguably encourages complacency with one's own irrationality.

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>>139807230
i guess

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>>139807209
For more see this that I made.

>>139802444
burn him with fire quick and use his dust as fertilizer

>>139807784
I'll also probably add the explanation I just posted to it, given that I've been asked it before and it's generally seen as an argument-ending hole in ancap logic. If you want to see that updated version go to the /lrg/ discord or general tomorrow afternoon or something, I don't know.

>>139807557
And people who don't fit in won't just disappear, they are going to try to fuck the system as hard as they can so it suits them

Not just lowlife crime types, people high up who fuck up would rather take the system down or corrupt the system rather than participate in a fair society

And guess what, there are a whole ton of fuckers who can't fit in

>>139808260
That happens in literally every system unless you're a meritocratic fascist who wants to murder irrational people or something. What I'm saying is that capitalism is the best for dealing with them and letting them screw over other people as least as possible.

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>>139802444

>>139803802
this is the only correct answer

>>139802692

fippo bippo. All communist should be executed.

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>>139802444
Learn about the living hells produced by socialist/communist nations. Learn him the atrocities and failure produced by Marxism.

alternatively find new friend

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>>139809689
>Learn about the living hells produced by socialist/communist nations
^this

>>139808448
The question is, who decides who is screwing another over and how is the situation rectified?

Communists think government is the answer.

>>139802444
>implying any system works forever

>>139806834
There you go. If the family is broken, specifically if the father figure is absent the subject will develop an insane need of recognition, and appreciation; that's why this pre-commies like to speak of rights and duties and anything related with being correct. Eventually, that need will unfolding into believing in a bigdaddy state that will take care of everything, and at the same time, acknowledge themselves as meaningfull and essentials for the society.
So you know now, when picking friends ask first for back home, if they come from a broken home, is better to stay alone.