What happen to the US space program?

>>139802393
It's funding keeps on getting cucked.

>>139802393
niggers need the gibs

>>139802521
it's because we know everything is too fucking far so science is turning back to looking into super small stuff like particles and shit to decrypt the fabric of the world

Oy vey, we can't keep spending money to go to space, goy. We need to use all your money to pay for shaneequa's children!

>>139802393
Couldn't get past Van Allen belts. Been faking it for 50 years. Where's our money going is better question.

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>>139802393
Niggers.

>>139802393
All the money went to isreal

>>139802393
cryptojews brainwashing communists to give the NASA budget to niggers; we don't need to go to space, we need to give everyone free shit

Are we pretending the US doesn't have the biggest and best space program ITT?

Congress and diversity.

>>139802393
Shitty low earth orbiter schoolbus. Not exactly a loss.

Being anti science and anti education became popular thanks to places like /pol/, so the public is much less interested in space, and as a result it gets less funding. Conservatives don't like the fact that space exists. It bothers them that once we find aliens in outer space, their entire world views will be challenged, and humanity will finally evolve to the next level.

There are no votes in space

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>>139802393
It went onto the black budget.
Proof positive of secret space agency:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_National_Reconnaissance_Office_space_telescope_donation_to_NASA

>yfw the f-35 is so expensive because 90% of the funds go to secret shuttle missions to repair secret satellites

>>139803128
>best
>literally can't put people in space

We have to use the Russian Soyuz, designed in the fucking 60's, to put people in space. I wish we had the best, but we don't.

>>139803295
You take that back. Sure, it might've been super inefficient and costly, but it was FUCKING AMAZING!

WHY? BECAUSE WE FUCKING CAN MOTHER FUCKER!

They pissed away a lot of time and money on the useless PR Shuttle

>>139802393
Obama happened.

>>139803295
People do feels over facts when it comes to the space shuttle.

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>>139803388
Double doubles, toil and troubles
>Double doubles, toil and troubles
Double doubles, toil and troubles
>Double doubles, toil and troubles
Double doubles, toil and troubles
>Double doubles, toil and troubles
Double doubles, toil and troubles
>Double doubles, toil and troubles
Double doubles, toil and troubles
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>>139803388
You're pretending like our glorious capitalist companies aren't developing better, more cost effective vehicles.

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Russian technology

>>139803432
Exactly!

>>139802393
I've been making r. And d. Rocket part's for a 2 years. Next year will be a sight to see. See blue origin be4 and arrowjetrocketdine kerosene rockets.

>>139802393

They stopped once every idiot bought into the Earth being spherical.

Flat Earth is real, get red-pilled.

This isn't the best thing ever but it has some good parts eventually;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cT_k6aPoq4w

>>139803619
Private companies are not NASA my friend. As much as I wish they were.

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>>139802393
The US won the dick waving contest against the Soviet when they faked the moon landing and won the space race.

>>139802393
NASA is now focused food systems and packaging.
Resource management, anon.

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>>139802393
Its been appropriated by other interests.

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>>139802393
moon city monies diverted to gibs

>>139802393
Affirmative action killed it. Have you seen a NASA group photo lately? 70% women.

>>139802393
its been pretty unnecessary for the last 20 years. however, with the advancement of technology making a mars landing a possibility its going to have a decent resurgence soon

>>139803327
Conservatives funded all space exploration research. Hitler's scientists invented rocketry. Liberals have all of our science money to niggers and single-mothers. You're a moron.

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>>139802393
>What happen to the US space program?
growing welfare state, social politics and fighting perpetual, endless wars for Israel has pretty much destroyed any notion of funding a national space program. that's why private companies do it now.

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We already have a space fleet funded by everyone not just US which is why we have so many trillions in debt and that's why we cannot audit our own money and find out where the hell all of it is. And that's why we cannot audit our gold reserves and.

Also breadcrumbs of proof spilled when that guy gary mckinnonwhen hacked NASA and mentioned this years back.

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>>139802791
This

>>139802393
Diversity tolerance welfare

There never was a space program. The whole thing was always a fake. No one went to the moon. I don't think anything has ever left the atmosphere. The ISS is a fake. You can see bubbles escaping whenever there is a "space walk".

Fucking expensive tho

>>139804487

Sure. And I thank them for this. But you can't deny the fact that todays conservatives are fully anti science. And it's becoming worse and worse with places like /pol/. If we discover aliens, it WILL change humanity forever. And I'm sure right wingers won't like the direction that change will put us in.

>>139802393
>What happen to the US space program?

Vietnam and gibs

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>>139803619
>developing better, more cost effective vehicles
Actualy they are not. Only photo-op quality retrograde tin cans that are no more than updated Apollo program technology and somehow still need subsidy.

The Soyuz derivatives are proven reliable technology but still nothing compares to what we used to have and was killed for no good reason without a defined succesor program.

>>139802393
Affirmative action.

Nazi Rocket Scientists.

>>139802847
What's her arm routine?

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>>139802393
>What happen to the US space program?

It's been doing outstanding scientific research for the last 58years.

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>>139802393

It's evolving and expanding. In a recent interview the the current director of Johnson Space Center he stated that next year we will be doing more missions to space than in all other years combined. Considering that SpaceX alone has LANDED more rockets this year than Russia has launched, next year is shaping up to be an amazing year in space. Currently, SpaceX has been lifting a payload every 2 or 3 weeks and Elon recently posted a pic of our soon to be new spacesuits.

>>139802393
Funding sucks but it is still going strong the shuttle program sucked anyways them shits had way to many disasters for it to continue as long as it did. We need some big ass rockets again.

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>>139804487
>Hitler's scientists invented rocketry
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_H._Goddard

>>139805451
A bucket of fried chicken.

>>139802393
People suck at being in space.

Robots are the way to go. What are people going to do up there robots can't?

>>139802393
Humanity learning to properly travel space is the worst thing that can happen to the jew. You cant milk goyim if they leave in all directions.

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>>139802393

>>139803327
Why do you assume that space aliens are liberal? What if when they arrive they are Jesus Himself and an army of angels who are really really pissed off at all the fuckery that the Left has been doing.

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>>139802393
DUDE
welfare and proxy wars
LMAO

>>139803352
This

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>>139802393
Elon actually hired the guy that designed the costumes for the movie Tron to design America's new space suits. This is the final form they are shooting for.

>>139805451
25x5 cookie curls

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>>139805780

>>139802847
Bitching about hunger isn't that effective when you're fucking fat.

>>139802577
/thread

>>139805238
>space shuttle more reliable and cost effective than the saturn-Vs or soyuz
it was cool and had many great scientific achievements but to say that it was more reliable or cost effective than, say the falcon-9, soyuz or even the saturn-5 is just retarded

>>139805780
They'll just demand an appointed Jew travel with them to keep them in check

>>139806169
Say what you want
It worked.

>>139806026
Is this real? It can't be

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>>139806026
>this

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>>139803388
>Implying that we're talking about NASA when we're talking about the United States space program
NASA is amateur tier compared to the big boys.

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>>139804127
>you will never watch a space shuttle launch IRL

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>>139805780
>implying that's not the very reason we seek it

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>>139806456
correct

>>139802393
No more Soviets to compete with.

Our space program was only ever about being the public-facing side of the militarization of space. Until we get a proper enemy that can match us technologically in space, NASA will remain in it's post-'89 slump.

>>139802791

This, trying to escape earth in a rocket is like releasing a helium balloon indoors and expecting it to go through the ceiling. NASA figured out that the energy requirements are astronomically high and completely unattainable. The US never landed on the moon, Kubrick filmed the footage in a studio. The reason this was kept secret was for 2 reasons in my mind, one Kennedy lobbied on an 8 year promise to get a man on the moon and 2, the horror of knowing we're not going anywhere soon. It even promotes the idea that God is real and the world is less than.

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>>139802393
Jews. We had to accept subpar shit aka niggers women and mystery meat because it would be mean not to let them not participate where they do not belong. Other than women, even the ayyy's will abduct cows over subhumans. as far as the budget goes, NASA is a joke. I mean, why waste money researching the meaning of existence when the higher moral calling is to ensure Jaiquandiniasha gets dey babies pampers and gibs and Maria and Pedro should eat forever with their 18 squatlings. I mean priorities right?

Right wing death squads. I am calling in all favors not to come back to this mud prison.

We spent twenty trillion on fighting poverty instead.

We didn't have anyone to replace the German scientists after they retired.

We have no cold war impetus to get us there.

We stopped being a Western Nation.

Under Nixon NASA predicted a manned mission to Mars by 1985.

>>139806347
>to say that it was more reliable or cost effective than, say the falcon-9, soyuz or even the saturn-5 is just retarded

Don't know if you are worth a reply since your statement comes from your own imagination.

Norhing compares to what we had. You could fit one of each of all space vehicles available today inside the shuttle's cargo bay and still had space available for mission specific equipment. I even included a pic to illustrate it. Soyuz and its competitors are cost effective for missions within their reach but the shuttle was in its own league eventho the full system was never funded.

My opinions are not retarded are informend, I am a fucking engineer.

>>139807000

your trips have me conflicted

>>139803716
And it was great technology by the way.

Pretty shameful to see these great technological achievements rotting out in hangars in the middle of nowhere with sub-par security. Are we living in Idiocracy?

>>139806683
>Our space program was only ever about being the public-facing side of the militarization of space

That phase concluded with the moon landing. The whole point of the moon race was to prove we can deploy missiles in the moon first.

After that, besides the intelligence gathering program, the purpose was to exploit space commercially in a monopoly but someone somehow allowed others in and the purpose slowly faced away. Our space program has not purposed righ now and thats the problem.

>>139807972
>Our space program has not purposed righ now and thats the problem.
WTF?
Our space program has no purpose righ now and thats the problem.

>>139807843
>Are we living in Idiocracy?
That question is its own anser.

>>139807558

And why would that be?

>>139808384

I was memeing that I disagree what you said but you getting trips validates the post.

>>139805617
This. But why is Elon scared of kerosene?

>>139802393

Globalism happened to it anon.

>>139802393
>Petrodollar defense
>Democrat vote-leasing

>>139808806
America got lazy depending on the rd180. Now we're pushing it slightly...obammer weed idition, Era is gone.

>>139807843
They were running out of cash. Food>space ships

>>139807843
Plutocracy is what comes to mind.

>>139802393
it was all smoke and mirrors . most of the money went into slush funds for cocaine and hookers

they had only been using a small portion of the money given for anything space related and when the government called them on it and cut the budget they cried and refused to work

Liquid propellant cost way too much. We are talkin about billions of dollars here. Also this highly depends on new kinds of propulsion technology, which the government is not going to spend on. I think the golden age of space is over... now that I think about it, unless Elon will do something else.

>>139809432
Still that something you see a lot in the USSR space program : develop some good technology fly it maybe once or twice and then cancel it for a completely different program.

Anyway now NASA and Congress have invented the best thing possible with SLS a money black-hole that is in perpetual development that will never fly (and therefore never fail, these guys are smart).

space shuttle was shitty on purpose
believe it or not, but the powers that be don't want people up there for some reason

i'm thinking "breakaway civilization" and some kind of classified real space program

>>139808611

I believe it to be the truth, I guess we will never truly know and I believe that this is the exact point. There is a theory that runs among conspiracy theorists that in order to avoid Gods wrath or perhaps just simple causality, The Powers That Be, likely ancient in their position, know that they must tell the truth, at least eventually. People call it predictive programming. Too get away with acts of evil (and avoid the reaction from the masses these acts would produce) they use alternative narratives, it works kind of like a sort of double think.

For example most all of us believe that Kennedy was killed by "them". (his wife in particular using what may have been a tubular pen like single bullet firing device at point blank range https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iU83R7rpXQY HINT - look at HER right hands position and the way it appears she throws an object in her possession before she scrambles also the direction of the cranial discharge) The patsy narrative that Oswald provided gives us the choice to continue as normal, accepting the blue pill and going back to 'Disneyland' as it were. By choosing Oswald we bypass the need to enact justice on the power structure, we simply choose to believe that which makes us sleep most comfortably at night. Just food for thought.

The following link is from this years season of Fargo. To me it appeared a lot like TPTB figuratively rubbing one out onto our brains, its a lot like when pedophiles post on sites like these detailing their crimes to piss people off because it gets them hard, or perhaps the murderers that get away with it that confess on their deathbed and laugh their asses off as a final act of satisfaction...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSKBx2NQ61s

>>139810877
>space shuttle was shitty on purpose
That part you got right. It used 1950's computer technology (not kidding), half of the original program was defunded and what actuall flew was an improvised solution. Still the dissaters were brought by incompetent people. What kind of engineer does not understand momentum of supersonic foam and what kind of idiot ignores engineers that warn about leaks from frozen booster gaskets?

>>139811174

Alright. The amount of energy needed to get into orbit is no secret, and any physics student can take a given rocket's engines' thrust to weight, total fuel, total mass, etc and determine if that rocket can actually get into orbit

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>>139802393

If we take the total shuttle program funding for development and operation (around $150 billion), and divide by the number of flights (about 117), we get $1.28 billion per flight.

Saturn 5 launch cost twice as much but it could lift 5 times more mass to LEO. It would have been cheaper to use expendable launch vehicles than space shuttle. ISS weights around 400 tons which could have been lifted with three Saturn 5 launches instead of tens of shuttle flights.

Space shuttle was really failure because it didn't really achieve anything. We could have gotten massive space station and mars flights if US would have kept building Saturn 5's instead of shuttles. 2 out of 5 shuttles were destroyed so I wouldn't call it "reliable" specially when there's no crew escape option on launch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pJoM9P-Zqk

That video sums up pretty much why shuttle sucked.

>>139803716
It's aged better than the Challenger.

>>139812975

someone on /pol/ told me they ate the cost because it was worth their super secret military shuttle missions

>>139802393
They're too fucking scared of making mistakes, so they don't take any risks (in lives and money both) because a single one would get their funding gutted even more.

>>139807000
FAKE TRIPS, YOU CAN SEE THE LANDER ON THE MOON WITH A TELESCOPE.

>>139812199

You're placing faith in a mathematical formula that you cannot prove yourself, one that is handed down by the very same people that I propose to be lying.

>>139814134

They don't even state such horseshit http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/about-us/45-our-solar-system/the-moon/the-moon-landings/122-are-there-telescopes-that-can-see-the-flag-and-lunar-rover-on-the-moon-beginner

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>>139802393
They're busy building a new rocket atm

>>139802393
The Cold War ended.

>>139814499
>a mathematical formula that you cannot prove yourself

David, I love you and your taste in shell suits, but you're making us look bad here.

>>139815288

>David

Swing and a miss buddy, my full name doesn't even contain a d, also too young for shell suits. The maths NASA provided is alternate reality tier, completely excludes the resistances that physicists were utterly unaware of back when Kennedy promised a man on the moon, that they discovered trying to get there. I've even heard that they went so far as to detonate nukes in the atmosphere to create holes to lessen the energy requirements but it still wasn't enough.

We're all prisoners in this hell and gravity is the chains of our bondage.

>>139816081
>Swing and a miss buddy, my full name doesn't even contain a d
No, but your mouth does.
I take it back, you're not in fact David Icke, you're just a fucking retard.

>>139802791
>van allen belts
But we can now goy just look up the magical space vest the isrealeies made
musk made one and it doesnt need it but fuck that guy
the cancer the shoulda shoahed the first to past through it made them live longer

I no longer believe in the Van Allen radiation belt.

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>>139804856
>Also breadcrumbs of proof spilled when that guy gary mckinnonwhen hacked NASA and mentioned this years back.
Stargate SG-1 did a soft disclosure on this with the Earth build USAF battlecruisers.

>>139816503

Ah I see, the old and true discredit the person that threatens the narrative rather than present an actual counter argument. Call him a wacko, that's oh so more credible...

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>>139802791
Spacecraft travel in ellipses, not straight lines. Apollo simply went around all but the outer layers of the van allen belts by using an inclined trajectory.
The outer layers that it did pass through are weaker, and it passed through them quickly enough that they didn't pose a threat.

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>>139816503
>no but your mouth does

>>139813193
No.

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>>139802393

The space program is as fake as the Cold War. Wargames pretty much admits it, if you read between the lines.

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>>139818800

Anyone who seriously thinks this is fucking retarded and should probably unironically kill themselves as soon as possible

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>>139802393
Well the Cold War ended
that's what happened to the US space program.
It is a lot harder to justify the spending when there isn't another superpower to compete with.

A lot of the novelty is lost as well.

>>139802847
>>Next few presidential cycles
>>Republican President steps up campaigning on first mars landing.
>>Sheboon on camera in the inevitable protest against him?
>> WHY yall' spending all dat muney on space? Ther nothing out ther? meanwhile traypac my son is going bed hungry, who gon feed him?

>>President replies to her specifically, well your going to feed him ofcourse?

>> I caynt afford that! That's raycist

>>CNN: The president is racist for suggesting the blacks have to work to provide for their young.

>>139805765
Robots can't match human dexterity and on the spot problem solving, yet. Those Hubble repair and maintenance missions would not have been possible with robots, to give you one example.

>>139812975

Adjust for inflation Saturn 5 becomes a lot more expensive than numbers imply. It is true that NASA would have been better off with expendable launch systems. Apollo capsule sucked at earth orbital operations, it had been designed for lunar missions and everything else were irrelevant.

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>>139810877
>classified real space program
NRO

>>139805591
Jesus, that thing kicks the ass of the Lego rocket set I had growing up

>>139802393
The Space Shuttle program was a disaster and should have been scrapped earlier

Obama cancelled Constellation but that was a blessing in disguise

The current model with SpaceX and the SLS is fine

NASA's most prominent contributions are in observation of space not exploration of space because the technology needs time to catch up

The moon is hollow and full of reptoids and Trump should send in the Ghouls

>>139805711
this. the Nazis piggybacked off Goddard's work, much to his displeasure.

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>>139802521
>It's funding keeps on getting cucked.
No, it does not.

NASA has been put in a perma-state of "how much pork spending can my state get" in Congress. NASA's budget attached, Russia and China have a manned space program and ESA is actually doing quite a lot in unmanned astrophycis experiments and telescopes. NASA's budget is more than everyone else combined and is, due to poor leadership, fucked up.

>>139802393
nasa is part of the miltary budget. remember 30% of the space shuttle missions are classified. the part of NASAs budget that isn't working on something that could also be used militarily is TINY. one of the big wonk secerts that sounds silly till you look into it.
expect to see the space budget and NASA budget to go up again when the cold war woth CHina heats up. I mean china has shot down a satulite. They also had a satellite grab another satellite, so
we know china is bery interested in this.

>>139807843
Russia shuttle ditched one of ots most expensive omponent, main engines after each flight.

Et least merican shuttle could reuse its engines.

>>139820459

Yeah, getting older but never truly growing up has made me slightly jealous of how much better kids are going to have it in the future. My lego "set" was a buckets worth of all sorts with the occasional duplo block thrown in for good measure a few pieces of maccano. Come to think of it Lego sets existed when I was a kid but I was born into a poorer family and my parents couldn't afford them. I imagine this would make things worse for poor kids growing up, now the stuff they cannot have is even better than what it used too be, and worse still the pieces are far more tailored toward the kits that they belong too unlike older Lego which was easier to mix and match.

>>139820907
To NASA's credit, their unmanned programs are second to none, they've got more ongoing probe/rover/satellite missions than every other space-capable country in the world put together. It's the manned program that's stalled, and as you pointed out it is largely due to pork spending. The shuttle replacement has been in perpetual limbo since the VSE was approved in 2004, as Ares and Orion have bumped from one contractor to another depending on what state wants aerospace bucks that year, and the ridiculous cost-plus contracting model has made that process obscenely wasteful.

We desperately need a new management format for NASA - cut them a check, meet for periodic status updates and mission goals, but otherwise just cut them a check and let them work out all their contracting and mission priorities via an internal, independent panel.

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>>139802791
>>139802393
> Space thread.
> Christian board.
> No mention of the firmament.
WHY?
H
Y
?

>>139821346
>To NASA's credit, their unmanned programs are second to none
On Mars, yes. On other scientific matters, no - not in the last 10-15yrs or in the next 10-15yrs based on current programs.

That can be easily seen by how much NASA spends on unmanned exploration and space astrophysics, it actually isn't that much more than e.g. ESA. ESA's budget has no pork barrel spending but Ariane 6 development. As a result, 80% of ESA's budget of 5 billion goes straight to unmanned missions and science.

Human spaceflight is still 40% of NASA's budget, its admin costs are still over 10%... both of which aren't yielding any results.

>>139821492
I made a slight allusion to it here,
>>139807000
Honestly not sure what to believe on the firmament because that's old testament so it leaves plenty of room for Christianity being a sham.

We've never been told about the real space program

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>>139821629
Esa

They found what they were looking for.

>>139821629
> Mars, yes. On other scientific matters, no - not in the last 10-15yrs or in the next 10-15yrs based on current programs.
How many missions has the ESA sent to Jupiter in the last 10-15 years? Saturn? Mercury? The Asteroid Belt? Kuiper Belt? How many solar observatories are you running? You might be less wasteful when it comes to unmanned programs, but let's not pretend they're doing better than they are.

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>>139821767

That's a metal wire like the ones those shitty Russian circus performers use isn't it....

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Zero g air plane

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>>139821849
Don't badmouth ESA. There is quite some shit that ESA is doing.

I thought euro education was good, why doesn't norway understand what microgravity is?

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(((gravity)))

>>139822064
>How many missions has the ESA sent to Jupiter in the last 10-15 years? Saturn? Mercury? The Asteroid Belt? Kuiper Belt?

Look up their projects here >>139822215

Has NASA done more? Sure thing. Is it "unrivalved"? No fucking way.

Things that ESA has done or is doing which is cutting edge on unmanned spaceflight:
- Venus Express was awesome
- Planch and Herschel were quite good and Gaia as a follow on is a massive contribution to astrophysics
- the JWST is a joint ESA/NASA program
- Solar Orbiter is quite the thing
- BepiColombo is amazing, NASA isn't doing this stuff at all
- the JIME will be amazing
- LISA Pathfinder showed tremendous tech improvements
- the Sentinel missions are really interesting

etc.

>>139802393
They have fusion powered EM drive crafts and got to retire their public relations campaign and hand off all traditional rocketry to private industry while they just zip from ground to atmosphere without a single atom of exhaust.

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>>139822424
This is what being indoctrinated looks like.

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>>139822565
>This is what being indoctrinated looks like.
What's your problem?

Even looking outside of ESA, there is stuff Europe is doing which is quite amazing when it comes to space. The new ESO Chile based telescope will be quite something for extrasolar planet research and other astrophysics. that is just an example.

And what problems do you have with the programs I listed? They have contributed to scientific advancements quite well.

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A lot of ignorant cucks in here.
>>139802521
this is literally the only reason we're getting nowhere. We've given it to the private sector now, but they're stuck with too much red tame and bureaucracy and international limitations. Muricans don't believe space is a viable option to "waste" money on. Instead we'd rather spend it blowing up arab faggots, giving to niggers, spics, white trash, subsiding the private sector, and paying for gooberment listening devices implanted in our phones and computers. A truly great country we live in.
>mfw born too soon to explore space
>born just in time for a nuclear winter

>>139821849
>>139822137
>>139822349
>>139822565

Not entirely sure what it is that is so damning with these ones....

>>139802393
>>solar warden solar wardenxsolar warden solar warden

>>139802393
btw these two only look similar.

>>139823552
the contraction of the Russian space program is really a damn shame, because it caused the US to scale back our space program too.

had the N1 rockets worked, I'm sure there would have been more public pressure to keep Apollo going and plan even more ambitious manned missions.

>>139822137
it seems like sttion fired its engines to boost orbit.

it needs to do it from to time, otherwise it woudl burn up in atmosphere.

>>139807843

>great technology

space shuttles are a damn clown compromise clusterfuck that tries to do everything and ends up doing nothing well. One of the reason they like to explode all over the fucking place

>>139802393
The US space program fell victim to pork barrel spending. Instead of putting money into more efficient ways of doing things, literally every new space vehicle has to use some derivative of space shuttle trash.

The space shuttle itself was the most blatant example of the cancer that is pork barrel. For the cost of that atrocity, we could have just kept the Saturn V, and probably been on Mars already.

TLDR: Jew Oligarchs need their taxpayer dollars, and they get it by poisoning our space program with useless trash.

>>139802791
"I'm a retard" the post. Probably fell for the "Muh Fukushima radiations" meme too. Radiation is not some magical force, despite hollywood portraying it as such. Increased risk of cancer != astronauts instantly disintegrated by radiation.

>>139803388
You're just baiting right? Because the space shuttle (and every other space plane design) is hyper trash. More complexity, more cost, for less payload. Saturn V is literally the apex of our space program, it's been downhill from there, and nothing but a glorified welfare program for aerospace contractors.

>>139802393
Obongo kennian kweena

>>139803327
Being skeptical of scientific dogma is not being anti-science. Global warming is a gigantic circle jerk where each scientist p-hacks their data until it matches past values. I've never seen them make any meaningful predictions, at least none that didn't turn out to be hilariously wrong.

I'm also "anti-education" in the sense that I think wasting money on educating sub-humans is a waste of resources. Sending Tyquanda to get a 'degree' in basket weaving just lowers the value of diplomas in general. I'm also extremely skeptical of teachers in general, since a large portion of them are in it for a cushy pension, not to actually teach anything.

That's before even touching the topic of what these idiots are teaching. Our 'higher education' system has become a glorified progressive bootcamp, and it's seeped downward to the point that they're pushing mental illness onto children (LBQTGSZXCTY tolerance being taught to pre-schoolers, well before sexuality should even be touched on)

>>139802393
diversity

>>139824902
To be fair, the most infamous failure wasn't the technology itself, but pork barrel spending /demanding/ that the boosters be made in fucking Iowa, and then shipped piece by piece to the launch center, where they were put together. That required O-rings, which ended up failing. If they'd just made the damn things AT THE PAD, it could have been created as a single piece without the need for O-rings.

Congressmen of both parties are absolute scum when it comes to bleeding the treasury dry for pet projects.

>>139824902
I'm not a fan of shuttle designs either, that doesn't mean it wasn't a technological prowess.

Unless there is some huge technological breakthrough, classical rocket design with staging will be the best (for most application).

>>139825504
I'd argue that the Saturn V was way more impressive. They made do with way shittier technology, and accomplished infinitely more than the shuttle ever did.

A single saturn V launch put more than 4x the payload into orbit. Inflation adjusted cost for a Saturn V launch was a little over double a shuttle launch. I'm pretty sure costs would have gone down if the Saturn V had enjoyed as long a run of support as the shuttle seemed to. Better technology would have likely improved it as well.

Just saying, we got bamboozled by whatever faggot thought a space plane was a good idea.

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Space gives bad habits. Kill all spacenoids.

>>139805108

Not true. Sessions is a huge NASA booster because he wants government gibs to Alabama to build the SLS. I forget the name of the guy, but there is a ?Texas? ?Congressman? that is a huge NASA booster - he is pushing hard to put a lander on Europa to bore through the ice and see if there is life in the ocean there.

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>>139802393
Lack of funding literally blew it up. Now America is driving in the rear seat of Russia. And paying Russia for the privilege to do so. Just like small eastern European pupped regimes during the cold war.

>>139807381

no shit - we cut NASA funding, shortening the moon program to pay for Vietnam, and that was not enough so Nixon pulled us off the gold standard so the govt could print $.

Skylab, our first space station, was built from leftovers from the moon program.

Basically we pay for the welfare state and wars instead of getting off this planet.

>>139815190

IIRC a huge amount of NASA's budget right now is going into finishing the James Webb telescope. If that puppy works correctly it is going to be more revolutionary than the Hubble.

>>139828263
Can't wait to see the first pictures that bad boy can dish out.

>>139820573

Wernher von Braun could not believe that such an amazing visionary / engineer and experimentalist as Goddard got so little traction in the US.

Von Braun knew Goddard was a badass, and said as much.

>>139828486
Because the scientific community were fucking elitists who thought his work was trash. 90's science was pretty trash when it came to trying to convince others something that worked actually worked. They had to pretty much spell it out in crayon for anyone to actually follow through with anyone's research because it was just considered below them.

>>139828883
1900's*

>>139802393
Niggers.
Since NASA began affirmative action they haven't been able to do shit. Plus niggers bitch that the space program takes up their welfare money.
Fucking niggers.

>>139828883
> A Correction. On Jan. 13, 1920, "Topics of the Times," and editorial-page feature of the The New York Times, dismissed the notion that a rocket could function in vacuum and commented on the ideas of Robert H. Goddard, the rocket pioneer, as follows:

>"That Professor Goddard, with his 'chair' in Clark College and the countenancing of the Smithsonian Institution, does not know the relation of action to reaction, and of the need to have something better than a vacuum against which to react - to say that would be absurd. Of course he only seems to lack the knowledge ladled out daily in high schools."

>Further investigation and experimentation have confirmed the findings of Isaac Newton in the 17th Century and it is now definitely established that a rocket can function in a vacuum as well as in an atmosphere. The Times regrets the error.

published 17 July 1969

>>139828263
I'm gonna be nervous on launch day.