Why haven't you converted yet anon?

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>>139760654
Because religion was created to force laws and morals and to make sense of an incredibly cruel and confusing world.

Nothing is wrong and nothing is right, that is for you to decide.

>>139760891
Miracles don`t happen because of laws and morals.

>>139760891
>Because religion was created to force laws and morals and to make sense of an incredibly cruel and confusing world.
Absolutely this.
>Nothing is wrong and nothing is right, that is for you to decide.
Not this though.

>>139762652
atheist much?

>>139760654
I haven't converted because:
-I studied so much Bible in college, learning textual analysis and about the original writers that I no longer believe it's the Word of God, but the Word of Man about God.
-more of a Unitarian when it comes to the nature of God (not Univsrsalist; I hope Certain UUs suffer)
-finds most Protestants cucked, hate current RCC pope because he seems less like a Catholic and more like a Soutj American Commie hiding behind liberation theology, and no cultural/community connections to Orthdox
-more interested in Christian mysticism than mainline Christianity

>>139764335
>-I studied so much Bible in college, learning textual analysis and about the original writers that I no longer believe it's the Word of God, but the Word of Man about God.
Please explain Daniel's 70 weeks and how he predicted the rise and fall of multiple world empires accurately. Is all fulfilled Biblical prophecy just coincidence and man fitting pieces into place? Is it all just vague guesses that happened to find future correlations? I'm genuinely curious what you think.

>>139764335
Orthodox :DDD

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>>139760654
because kek is real

>>139764335
Mysticism is the one thing Jesus did not intend for us to study. Sure you may be curious about it but not actually believe in that stuff. The kabbalah and the alchemy have mysticism associated with. They do present new concepts and ideas but that doesn`t mean they are good, in fact they are bad because they present certain things way different than they were intended. For example: the idea that God is both man and woman is a idea derived from new age mysticism (which originates in the kabbalah). This idea is truly false. Nowhere in the Bible does it state whether God is a man or a woman. Mysticism disguises itself as a very smart thing but in fact is demonic. Make some research before you engage in this type of literature.

>>139761136
Do you really want a miracle? Have you ever seen one? Have you ever looked at a church and thought, "The god who is truly great could give me any sign and every sign, and make it utterly clear where my spiritual fate lies."
Or did you just take it on the word of a book written many centuries ago that miracles occurred?
Do you expect much of God, or has your conduct indicated that you expect little of God? Wrestle, people! If you want miracles, demand them! If miracles are your proof, stop being slothful adherents of whatever religion first colonized your brain unless it showed you miracles.

>>139760654
I have! Allah shows me the way to white scandinavian pussy. Bismillah.

>>139760654
I converted to Islam xDDDDDDDD

>>139760891
>moral relativism
How does being a communist feel

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>>139760654
Because every Christian priest or preacher cries and moans about pride.

Lack of pride is why there are white children getting gang raped in rooms full of Muslims in Sweden.

Lack of pride is why daughters hate their fathers and date gorillas.

Lack of pride is why boys watch anime and transition into girls until they gracelessly kill themselves.

So I have to listen to another faggot sermon where white guilt is institutionalized while we do nothing about the civil forfeiture of our very bodies?

You fucking christcucks can either get a new fucking paradigm or fuck right off.

>>139766875
So is the battle of Waterloo or the battle of Stalingrad. Neither of us have seen it yet there is lots of proofs that those events actually happened. Going by your idea of "I don`t see it i don`t believe it" it would be correct to say the earth is flat. What have you been to the moon?

My point is that i am not a blind follower. I did my research within HISTORY. Limiting yourself just to the Biblical text is not wrong but not satisfying enough. There are a lot of documentaries and proof you can search to validate that the Biblical events happened.

>>139760654
Been an Orthodox Christian since birth friend.

>>139760891
this is what happens when you replace religion folks PAY ATTENTION!!!!!

the state becomes your god.

>>139760654
Because I'm not a bronze age goatherder.

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>>139764963
Ordodox :DDD

>>139766476
No interest in (((Kabbalah))). More like Thomas Merton, St. Teresa of Avila, Hildegard von Bingen, Meister Eckhart, and Christian monasticism like the desert Fathers. Also some interest in Celtic Christianity, but still learning.

>>139767815
>So I have to listen to another faggot sermon where white guilt is institutionalized while we do nothing about the civil forfeiture of our very bodies?

You are going to the wrong sermon then. If you feel the need just be a Christian lone wolf. Even the silent prayer is heard. Seek Jesus and His message after all, Matthew 10:34

34.Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
35. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

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>>139767815
And forgot to mention your missions where you feed and clothe the future rapist and terrorist of Europe.

Not even trying to teach them how to farm. You just feed all these wild monkeys and piss away your congregations resources to the literal fucking congo where it will get pissed away on wild monkey warlords.

Back here in reality you don't do fuck for your community and make the world a shittier place. So go find a wild monkey shithole to turn the other cheek in and never come back.

>>139768880
will look into them, thanks for the names

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>>139760654
Christianity is fundamentally foreign to my people in origin. Sure it's easily the best of the three Abrahamic religions because of white people's purifying influence, but still foreign nonetheless. Hell, part of the old testament is just the torah.
Nothing with that much Jewish influence can be a suitable religion for white people in my opinion. We need something that comes from a deeper place in our heritage. Race, culture, and religion are all respective products of each other after all, and work best when they all come from the same place.

I don't look down on, or disapprove of white Christians. As I said, I think there are good things about it. I just believe they are a result of our people shaping it into something better than what it was rather than the other way around.

Ultimately, I just think a religion all our own would be far better in the long run than a universalist one originating from a different culture and race.

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>>139760654
Fuck off, I already jacked off to you in spite once. I ain't doing that shit again, you understand.

>>139769159
How will you deal with critics saying your religion is man made and therefore false? You just create a set of rules other than the laws of the state.

>>139769577
I would say that we should look to old European religions. Celtic polytheism, Germanic paganism, etc. As LARPy as pagans today can be, I believe they're onto something. They just don't present it well, and may sometimes be mislead like neo-nazis who simply deify the false narrative instead of learning about National Socialism. If you can say those are man-made, you can just as easily say the same of Abrahamic religions.

I would never propose simply creating an entirely new religion, because I think any religion worth its salt has to appeal to the history and traditions of its people.

>>139770751
Bringing back human sacrifice is not an option. The way hitler did it was more of a fairy tale. True paganism was pretty barbaric. It`s all fun and games till some "god" needs a sacrifice in order to be pleased.

>>139771745
You don't think Christianity has any barbarism in its past?
This is true of pretty much all religions, obviously the parts which are incompatible with modern society don't need to be emphasized.

Why are Episcopalians so cucked?

>>139760654
Because I don't want to convert to a fucking Semite religion

>>139772016
Tell me more of the barbaric teachings of Christ.

>>139772526
What are you implying?

>>139772215
Because we all know how Jesus deceives us in doing good and getting rid of degeneracy.

>>139772587
Well as a Christian i follow most of the time the teachings of Jesus Christ. The old testament is very important but then again Jesus said that He is the new law. The let`s say barbaric rules from the old testament like eye for an eye or animal sacrifices are no longer needed. He is the new law and is He who we must follow. Are there any barbaric laws to be followed now that we must follow Christ?

>>139773171
Okay granted. So why do you believe the same can't be applied to supposedly barbaric pagan religions to make them compatible with the modern day?

>>139760654
Because I'm not an autistic LARPer

>>139773345
1.Reason above. Human sacrifice
2.Praying to a sex god? Doesn`t that seem a little like what is happening today with miley cyrus. Dress with balloon tits, huge strapon. You would probably call her degenerate but wouldn`t call a statue with a 20 inch dick degenerate?
3. History. I may not be much into celtic religion but i know for sure there are not many written documents. From what i understood most of it is based on intuition and on paintings.

>>139760891
Time for you to learn.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-wWBGo6a2w

>>139760654
Mainly because my ancestry is European and i don't want to LARP as ancient Israeli.

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>>139760654
Waste of time that could be spend shitposting here

>>139774315
Could you clarify what exactly you're referring to with these criticisms?
Either way, I see no reason the bad parts can't be extracted. I don't assume that modern Christians feed infant genitals to a vengeful volcano god any more than I would assume a modern pagan sacrifices slaves to bury his decommissioned river boat.

I don't think many core values of white people would change with such a religious shift if it were to happen. I just believe it would create a healthier society for posterity.

>>139760654
I used to be pretty religious, didn't feel fulfilled, less stressed out, happier, or anything. Religion didn't seem particularly logical to me and I felt like I had no reason to be religious since I was gaining nothing from it in any way shape or form whether psychological, emotion, or spiritual. So I stopped going to church and used that time for more productive things like riding a bike through the empty dorms I lived in while my RA and most of my floor was at church.

>>139767901
t. top cuck

>>139760891
Wrong. Go found a country of 'nuffin's wrong or right yo' and watch it burn to the ground.
We must seek to align the sails of our fleet with the wind or watch the fleet collide and splinter.

>>139760654

I did convert, in 2007. But in the last year I've gotten fed up with the shit God has let me go through, despite his power to change things. So for now I'm going my own way. I can't justify the pain anymore.

>>139781671
>Wrong. Go found a country of 'nuffin's wrong or right yo' and watch it burn to the ground.
I mean Estonia's like 70% atheist and it seems to be doing fine. More racially pure than 95% of Europe.

>>139781877
>Estonia
???
wiki says they are 51% eastern orthodox, and that the country was founded on this religion.
We have the same thing in Australia, the Atheists are following Christian morality, but straying further and further from them as they forget.

>>139781726
I'm on my 33rd day of a 40 day fast right now and I feel completely messed up. All the physical difficulty aside, I'm experiencing spiritual temptations and perversion that I never even imagined I would.

It's really hard to stay in this world finding out more how perverse and disgusting it is, but it's a good thing that God is longsuffering and patient, not just for your sake but for the people who make it hard to be alive.

I don't know what you went through but God hasn't left you.

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>>139780183
I don't believe the supernatural aspects of any religions are real, but I do believe that they are manifestations of something deeper and more difficult to understand in the human consciousness. This is why I never counter-signal religious people or steer conversations regarding religion toward the atheist-theist debate. Ultimately, I don't think that debate matters. Religion is something that most people need in their life. Like political, social, and economic ideologies, it is a means to an end. That end is the well-being of its people. When the ones in power lose sight of that end, or start seeing the means as ends in themselves, the people suffer.
That is what i see in the universalist mindset of the majority of Christians. It is a religion that belongs to the world, not to a people, and it makes adherents susceptible to notions of putting fellow believers above one's own race or even family.

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>>139760654
Because I don't believe in him.Do call me when the next reich comes around though.

>>139760654
King James Bible is missing books. Catholic is the true way.