Redpill me

I 2nd this...redpill us both. Why, (or why not), is a fascist economy better?

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>>139750573
>>139752246

that's not the question. at all.

that's putting the cart before the horse.

you have to have a stable society with high moral values, and universal virtue, and everything else just falls into place on its own without too much effort.

a 'successful government and economy' can not be created top-down, it has to be created bottom up, from the individual, to the family, to the town, to the city, to the nation.

all attempts to do it otherwise than this will result in failure.

>>139750573
As far as the economy goes isn't everything done for the state. I.e. to better it?
Personally I think you fucks are on the same authoritarian level as your brothers in antifa. It's just done by advancing the state and not the minorities. You both use force that destroys liberty.

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>>139753868
This guy gets it. Like spoken by the Führer himself.

>>139750573
I'm not sure you understand what fascism is? Are you refering to national socialism? Fascism is the control of a so-called "autoritarian" state by a single force, such as a dictator; characterised by nationalistic ideals. National socialism, like the other anon said, is, among other things, based upon the fundamental truth that a nation does not equal it's economy.

Mein Kampf:
>Now, the truth is that the State in itself ha
s nothing whatsoever to do with any definite
economic concept or a definite economic development. It does not arise from a compact
made between contracting parties, within a certain delimited territory, for the purpose
of serving economic ends. The State is a
community of living beings who have kindred
physical and spiritual natures, organized for the purpose of assuring the conservation
of their own kind and to help towards fulfilling those ends which Providence has
assigned to that particular race or racial branch. Therein, and therein alone, lie the
purpose and meaning of a State. Economic activity is one of the many auxiliary means
which are necessary for the attainment of th
ose aims. But economic activity is never the
origin or purpose of a State, except where a State has been originally founded on a false
and unnatural basis.

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>>139756032

>>139753868
That makes sense, actually.

Types of Government(therea probably more):
Republic
Democracy
Monarchy
Fascist

Types of Economy(I dont think there's more):
(((Capitalism)))
((((Marxism))))***

***unlike Capitalism, Marxism has DLC called the Christian or Muslim. Under which, Nations flourish. Under a Soviet-style form of Marxism, the excess funds "for society" are simply stolen by the Jews in charge.

And if you try to start Christian Socialism like venezuela, you will get SHUT DOWN. Jews have a harder time with Arabs, because their holy book allows them to decapitate kikes.

>>139756851
Also: Republic and Democracy are closely relates. Obviously you know the difference is elected vote casters vs votes.

Monarchy and Fascist are closely related. The Supreme Chancellor acts as a King, but is chosen and does not pass by blood.

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>>139757173

the one resource which a successful Nazi society requires is sincerity. i mean nothing lasts forever except the eternal empire, but, that being said, without sincerity the nazi-state things don't even last for like, very long at all.

>>139753868
Nice mysticism, you avoided the real question by saying "if you're good so is your economic system" you could have easily explained fascist corporatism but you went on about some hippy dippy spiritual bullshit.

You and the commies have to be put down. Your trash and a fucking fake.

>>139750573
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatism#Fascist_corporatism

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>>139757643
Sounds right to me . Honestly(and I know a good number of "Nazis" on /pol/ disagree with me), this movement has nothing to do with race. That is one talking point that audiences have clung to and used for critcism or dogma alike.

Niggers are a problem. So is white trash. So is worthless gooks. Abhorrent Pakis. Disgusting sand niggers.

A saves, Christ-believing Christian of any race is none of those titles. And if they are, it's only during their mistakes. The rest of the time they try.

I don't know if we have a massive influx of Jews among us trying to make everyone hate us or if there really are people who believe "race studies" (always written by a Goldstein) and legitimately are racist, or if it's a toxic mix of both. But it is not what this is. At best it distracts us from Enemy Number 1, and at worst it will kill this resurgent movement for real

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>>139758275

i see some real problems here.

>"if you're good so is your economic system"

that's literally all there is to it. if you follow this principle of simply doing and being your best moment by moment, at each stage and every level, you will create something beautiful. the devil is in the details.

knowing things about 'fascist corporatism' is literally of no use to you. we have limited capacity for learning, so you should strive to learn everything you need to know, but nothing that you don't. and furthermore, you can see a problem from a mile but a solution from a meter. this relates back to you putting the cart before the horse.

what's alarming to me is your immediate decision to 'put someone down' (kill them) in response to them slightly disagreeing with you, and then insulting them as trash and "fake".

did you not have a mother to teach you manners?

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>>139758874

I agree totally. You can't be a racist and a Nazi at the same time, because racism is just egotism. Now, a Nazi is an inquirer into nature - so he see's race, and KNOWS there is actual diversity, unlike the shrieking leftist sorts.

Aryanism basically means that your (Imagination/Second Sight) controls your (Emotions/spirit) controls your (Primal Reptilian Urges). there are people in this world who attempt to invert that order, and the results are horrifying.

I don't see it as left vs right, or as semite vs european even. I see Naziism as good versus evil - plain and simple. An eternal war for an Eternal Empire.

>>139759689
Sieg bro

>>139758926
Again, you're just saying "if you do what's best it just works" without detailing what is best and why. Your rhetoric is mystical, there's nothing of substance to what you're saying.

Obviously the best works best, I don't have to uphold your standard of "manners" and pat you on the back for spewing mystical nonsense. Why don't you show your true intentions rather? My guess is that you know everyone thinks you're system is totalitarian and would never approve without religious fanaticism and mysticism.

>>139758926
>>139759689
Indeed, "racism" as defined by the modern world has no place among us. National Socialism is only "racist" in that we recognise that we seek a homogeneous nation, because a homogeneous nation is a stable nation.
Hitler's observations in Vienna proved to him that it would be very hard for a nation to find a strong enough unifying force to overcome the ethnic barrier between the Germans and the Slavs in Austria at the time.

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In Sweden, we used to have pretty much a "fascist economy" under Folkhemmet, although "fascist economies" can come in many different forms.

It was sold to the people as a "socialism of functions", or "funktionssocialism" in Swedish.

Meant less focus on who owned the means of production, and a lot more focus on making sure what was produced, benefited the nation. The state could simply tell a company "no" in most cases, if they overstepped their boundaries. Or they could command a company to create more of some product that was required. Conflicts between workers' unions and capital always included the state as a third interest party. They had their say in such disputes as well. Companies which grew too large or came into conflict with the state could be broken up, or have their ownership transfered to the government.

Command economy of sorts. Doesn't really fit into the capitalist/marxist polarity.

Pic always related.

>>139760696
Even by this definition I struggle a bit. There are far too many mixed races. They would be the largest stateleas people on earth. The only way to dissolve and ethnic barrier is to shatter a cultural barrier.

Can you name one cultural trait that is unique and coincides with Christian values? Being Christian is a cultural identity that trumps ethnicity as far as I can tell.

I'm still a fledgling in developing my feelings around this, but honestly I'm not sure anyone else is too far ahead of me.

>>139759689
The more of your posts I read the more I like you. Hail Victory.

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>>139761715

Hail victory, bro.

i had an interesting idea. what if nazis openly marched in perfect formation bearing swastika banners, but didn't even resist antifa - they just took blows, got beat up, but didn't resist, just stared straight ahead, as if there was some star in the distance only they could see...

that's how ghandi did it. i know we'd all love to lubricate the MG42's, but, this is a new kind of war we're fighting. or is it the oldest war? dunno. just a thought i had.

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>>139761647
Christianity is no longer what it used to be. I believe it's been subverted. I believe it is now harmful.

>>139760997
I believe, from my limited knowledge on Sweden, that you are a (((Capitalist))) country with strong, institutionalized Social programs. Post-WW2 your country did not have to spend time, effort and funds on reconstruction, and quite oppositely, made a fortune working and lending to your neighbors. This allowed you to amass the extremely cushiony Social Welfare programs, and you still have a Free Market. What you mentioned, with the State being able to say "No", is just Business Law upheld at a Federal level.

>>139761998
It would not be a good idea. The police would let us get killed. Yeah it would make the other side look bad. But I don't think we should sacrifice the few brave people we have. We should be increasing numbers.

>>139762121
Pastor/Dr. Kent Hovind covers this really well. This subject is a seperate thread altogether.

(((Evolution Theory))), specifically the "Geologic Column Theory", eroded faith by planting a seed of doubt on Genesis. It was a house of cards after that. And it was literally Jews at every turn pushing every button. Absolute shame.

Kent Hovind CSE 101 is a YouTube college course that turned my life around. Seriously.

>>139750573
Wasn't the Roman Republic the first fascist state? I think fascism is more of a self-esteem boosting philosophy for the people of a nation rather than politics.

-fitness
-healthy mind
-strive for greatness always

>>139759689
You sound like the biggest fag rn

>>139761998
We shouldn't let it come to that. We should all focus on getting behind our keyboards and writing down the issue and showing it to anyone who will look.

Even I had a whole different view of a "Nazi" just a year ago. I still believe the BEST weapon we have is refuting the Holocaust, because it is (((their))) BEST weapon/lie against us. It's actually what slapped me in the face with a red pill.

>>139762937
Shoo Shlomo.

>>139750573
Look up your own info and don't ask /pol/ to spoonfeed you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Nazi_Germany

>>139763056
I think mein kampf would be a more accurate source since leftists like to change things around constantly.

Always read source material when it comes to far right and third position politics.

>>139761647
Christianity as a philosophy has changed up quite a bit, both egalitarianism and natural order hierarchy are in Christian scripture.

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>>139762341

Our strength is not in numbers.

Four million soldiers of the Third Reich died to make this possible for us, and you're not willing to see, what, a hundred more soldiers die as holy martyrs? The biography and Autobiography of ghandi are extremely valuable sources of information on the nature of a psychological war for freedom - and isn't that what us Nazis want? and whats the alternative? we can't challenger all of them. and they're not going to listen until you make them. are you willing to wind up in the hospital or worse for a cause you truly believe in?

I like to think that when i die, i sleep. and when i sleep, i dream, and that i will dream of the world that i spent my life creating. you're not truly alive unless you're ready to sign out at any moment.

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>>139762964

But perhaps in time you will see my point. you seem fairly sincere.

does anybody have that screencap explaining a fuck ton of the fascist economic principles? like protecting the eco system and stuff like that

When a large share of Mefo’s five-year promissory notes fell due in 1938, the National Socialist government employed “highly dubious methods” where “banks were forced to buy government bonds, and the government took money from savings accounts and insurance companies,” due mainly to a serious government cash shortage.[8] By 1938 unemployment was practically extinct.[9]

YOU MEAN, HITLER TOOK FROM THE RICH AND GAVE TO THE POOR? WHAT A HERO

>>139763741
I see your point. The sixteen we lost at the Feldherrnhalle were definitely a catalyst the first time.

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>>139763896

i'd like to see that too

>>139764870
Bro....


Turks are horrible people. I fought alongside the PKK/YPG against ISIS. My leisure time was spent reading, from objective sources, the kinds of atrocities Turkish soldiers and police have committed in the past 100 years.

Not like "American atrocities in Iraq" which are completely overblown, made-up or legit but extremely rare. Turks are fucking horrible bro.

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>>139763896

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>>139765439

I once knew a turk that i'd have fought for down to the last bullet with.

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>>139765567

thanks man

>>139765739
Yeah, I mean me too. But they were in the YPG/PKK. Talking shit about the country.

Basically, The Young Turks regime was overwhelmingly CryptoJew(Jews pretending to be Muslim). This is a FACT. What is up for debate is whether Ataturk himself was a CryptoJew.

They left roads lined with crucified women. Armenian Christian WOMEN crucified by the thousands. Like a sick joke.

That's ISIS level shit man. Even the fake Holocaust stories are more humane(if they actually happened, which they didnt).

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>>139765567
>taking any info from aryanism

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>>139766351

yeah it's a fucked up virulent place. that's how dracula happened, i think.

As i see it this behavior is just pretty normal for uncivilized barbarians and animals, who have yet to be ordered by the strength and the light of space age Nazi Crusaders. they say 'symmetry is tyranny'...

>>139765567
This is utter trash. Anyone who has taken even a beginner macroeconomics course could see through this.

>>139750573
Fascism is everyone working for government approved companies

>>139750573
>Socialism is pretty much everyone working for the government.
?

The simple answer is that there is no such thing as "fascist economics". That is because fascism is not a cohesive ideology based on a thought-out philosophical foundation. There are no fascists thinkers. There is no fascist methodology. Fascism is, at its core, a form of political kitsch. It's a rhetorical theme, heavily laced with vacuous populism and cheap appeals to emotions, used to kindle movements but not any kind of intellectual debate.
For this one simple reason, no "universal fascism" exists - every individual fascist movement is hand-tailored to suit the romantic fantasies of the society it occupies. So to place fascism in the same category as Marxist Socialism or Liberal Capitalism would be an insult to the latter two - say what you will about them, they are both rooted in more-or-less well-defined and universally-applicable principals. The only solid principal found across all fascist movements is totalitarianism - hardly a unique fascist particularity.

Insofar historical examples of fascist governments are concerned, they seemed to operate most as extreme corporatocracies, albeit with the barons of industry cooperating & coordinating with government officials much more openly and officially than in most liberal western republics.
The everyday implications of this are simple: You work for a private company, but that 'private' company is headed by the same folks who head most governmental economic committees, so the line between 'private' and 'public' is very blurred. You might call it "State Capitalism", but that term has Socialist connotations, and it implies a certain direction of influence that was actually reversed in fascist regimes; "Capital Statism" might be a better descriptor.

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>>139768974

now you're immortally a jewish loser, a jewser.

>>139750573
>Fascism is...
gulags or other kinds of forced labor, exactly what fascist deserve. In fact, it is literally what they asked for. You want your country to be governed by force? Then your country will be governed by force.
>So far I only know that fascism is a mix of capitalism and socialism.
you're a low-iq faggot and you know nothing at all, retard.

>>139750573
Hitler's capitalism is the fascist way.

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>>139750573

Time to make our own media.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smfpg42vwx0

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>>139771427

give me 5,000 dollars