This was a better Poland What once was..

That was actual Poland, not this post communist hybrid nowadays

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>>139749060
>yes, I'll take the literal wasteland to the east over the mines and more ports anyday

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>>139749060

>>139750167
lmao

>>139749060
Give back German land

>>139749060

The best Poland was in the Russian empire.

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>>139750167

>>139749060
Fuck off, we did nothing wrong in Volyn.

>>139749060
>Losing almost all your coastline.

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>>139750167

>>139750784
>the chad-reich conquest
>the polan annexation

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>>139749060
We must think bigger

>>139749060
>Full of ethnic minorities and conflicts between them
>Poland was so goooud!
>Extremely poor and divided

Oh you little shits, you better go learn some history. Even though I'd like WW2 not to happen, I'm completely comfortable with a mono-ethnic and almost mono-religious country

>>139749060
I agree, this Poland had the best borders. This Germany too.

>>139751948
you don't want kraut blood in your country

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>>139749060
The shape we have right now is a perfect shape. More or less what we had 1000 years ago.

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>>139752297
>Extremely poor

Well at least that's changed!

>>139749060
Vilnius is ours.

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>>139749060
Fuck no, it had no costline and had strategically insignificant territories without buffer zone. Also society was diluted as fuck. Current Polska is much better and has much stronger economy as well as geopollitics, more elegant heart-like borders is a bonus.

>>139754050
they're slavs in denial

>>139756190
Then start subverting them right now szczepan.

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>>139751948
>We must think bigger

I agree, we MUST get rid of Eastern Germany. We've pumped €2 trillion (yes, trillion) into that shithole with nothing to show for it.

>>139750167
To be honest I kek'd a little, dear Czech

>>139756342
>>139755941
Oh you're so mighty. Especially with all the fucking Marshall plan money you got at the end of WWII.

>>139756865
The Marshall Plan allocated $13 billion in 1948 dollars to the whole of Europe. West Germany got about 11% of that. Adjusted for inflation, you are talking about German receiving 13-14 Billion to rebuild an economy that was completely demolished by a war.

Compare that to the €15 billion that you receive from the EU per year. Then compare our countries.

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>>139749060
>poland at 20's
>better

>>139751948
No, mate. Taking Eastern Germany (I know, that this lands were slavic once) can do a lot of damage here.
A lot of Germans and migrants would be allowed to vote and I think they would push some proeurolgbtmuslimjewhinduharekrishnakickapoo to government and make us weaker.
>inb4 we are weak
Same with Ukraine. A lot of proeuro guys and Bandera lovers.
And what about Kaliningrad/Królewiec i think that mix of Polish/German/Russian are toxic and we shouldn't take them. The best option will be make Kaliningrad independent.

>>139756342
Sehr gut! Cede your lands to us Hans! I am sure that will be great, especially when all those immigrants in Berlin learn that there is no welfare in Poland and swarm over your other cities.

fuck you, tell your chechens to stop coming to germany fucking morons

>>139757642 >>139749060
>not knowing about Holy Polish Kingdom of Christ Our Lord 65 hundreds of years ago when Christ was cast into the future and all traces of our kingdom destroyed to prevent us from saving the world from the Eternal Jew

>>139750784
Sadly we had retarded government that didn't sign the treaty with Germany against commies.

>>139758514
>Sehr gut! Cede your lands to us Hans!

I would love to. As I said, we've pumped €2 trillion into that shithole, and it still looks like Poland.

Therefore, it is rightful Polish clay.

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>>139749060
A good chunk of it was not Polish.

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>>139749060
No, this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH8FNChzwxc

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>>139750167
>not posting proper original

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>>139750167
Hahaha... desu, as a Pole, I kekked outwardly. And now I'm sad. >>139759611
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-I_bi1J11Y

>>139758973
Poland was multicultural before it was cool! Didn't work out.

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>>139755804
>The shape we have right now is a perfect shape.
No, pic rel should be the worst case scenario post 1945.

>>139758973
That's somewhat misleading, because the huge reason for low Polish numbers was the enormous jewish minority we had at the time.

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>>139754642
They had that for a few decades 1000 years ago. That doesn't make it polish clay. Most of it hasn't been Polish for over 800 years, the majority of the population were german and almost everything there was built by germans.
The people currently living there would stil be in what's now Ukraine and Belarus if Stalin wasn't such a land stealing cunt. I wonder how germans feel about losing all of this land

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>>139750167
>He didn't post Kresy Wschodnie

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>>139756092
>Current Polska is much better
It isn't, but pic rel is. >>139760272

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>>139749060
"Poland is a greedy hyena of Europe"
Churchill

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>>139757253
>to the whole of Europe.
Except Poland.
>>139757253
>Compare that to the €15 billion that you receive from the EU per year.
That's noting to the trillions of $ you owe Poland for WW2. Around $1 is just for infrastructural losses. >>139760443

>>139760035
>>139760308

You guys should get Vilnius and Lviv back. Also gj on leaving Catholicism behind in southwest Ukraine after you left.

>>139760503
>Kresy Wschodnie
>this map
Wschodnie Kresy konczayutsya tam gde konczayetsya Wschod? Lul

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>>139758681
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxamYw_e7W4

>>139761069
>Except Poland.

Poland has no geopolitical significance. Which is why no one takes their claims seriously.

Sad, but true. Also, hilarious.

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>>139760674
"I suck fat and smelly dicks" Churchill

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>>139761210
>Also gj on leaving Catholicism behind in southwest Ukraine after you left.

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>>139760445
This map shows ethnic composition of Silesia around the mid-17th century (in mid-1600s). Black line shows the later border of Prussian-controlled Silesia as of 1905. Red - areas with ethnic Polish majority. Blue - areas with ethnic German majority. Yellow - areas with ethnic Sorbian majority. Green - areas with ethnic Czech majority. Ethnic boundaries are more detailed / reliable within the black borders than outside:

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>>139761823

By comparison approximate area with ethnic German majority in Silesia ca. year 1333 (so ~300 years earlier than situation shown above):

Can Poland just take over all of Europe and kick out the shitskins please

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>>139761875
German settlers coming to Silesia since the second half of the 13th century, called the native Slavic population of this land "Wasserpolen", and in further centuries this name was also extended into slavic speech of inhabitants of Silesia: "Wasserpolnisch Michsprache". A German geographical description of Silesia from year 1689 notes - for example - that between Oława and Kąty Wrocławskie "sehr polnisch redet". In Kąty Wrocławskie (Kanth) in year 1641 almost half of all artisans / craftsmen belonged to a separate, "Polish artisan guild". One of first decrees of Frederick the Great from year 1764 was directed against the Polish language - by this decree German language was introduced as official language and by the same decree from 1764 it was forbidden to employ in schools teachers who did not use German language. Restrictions for Polish language in schools and offices were introduced.

Initially, Germanization affected the area of Lower Silesia - especially all large cities located in that area. The city of Wroclaw (Breslau) thanks to German settlement became a bilingual city. Gradually Polish language was being replaced by German language in Wroclaw, but nevertheless for a very long time the right bank side of Wroclaw, located on the eastern side of the Oder River, was being called by Germans "Polnische seite". Even a document from as late as 1789 says that population living in the suburbs of Wroclaw was still using Polish language.

In the 19th century Jerzy Samuel Bandtkie wrote:

>"The capital city of Silesia has many Polish-speaking inhabitants, because already 1,5 miles from Wroclaw there are entire Polish-speaking villages, and just 2 or 3 miles from Wroclaw there are entire parishes with majority of Polish-speaking populations, located at the Oder River."

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>>139762001
In a brochure from 1791, an ethnic German pastor from Breslau - J. W. Pohleg - wrote:

(Source: J. W. Pohleg, "Der Oberschlesier verteidigt gegen seine Widersacher", published in 1791):


>"(...) What is the native language here in Silesia? Because rather not German? Basing on the names of cities and villages in a particular land, we can establish without any doubts, what was the most common language in this land when those cities and villages were built. What do words such as Glogau, Bunzlau, Wohlau, Jauer, Breslau, Brieg mean in German language? Nothing. On the other hand, in Polish language all these words have their meaning! Isn't the conclusion, that when those cities were built, Polish was the regional language in Silesia, true? Isn't this thus true, that accusing a Lower Silesian of speaking German language is more justified than accusing an Upper Silesian of speaking Polish language?* There is so much ignorance shown by your agitators**, who complain so loudly. The thing which they criticize,*** is rather worth praising. Honestly, how pitiful is a nation, which is jeering at people due to their mother tongue - people who are not at fault for using it - and the ones who are mocking, have not enough virtues to judge others genuinely and earnestly. (...)"


* He wrote this after Frederick the Great started oppressing Polish language in Silesia.

** He is writing about agitators of the Prussian king - Frederick William II.

*** And this thing is the fact that Upper Silesians spoke Polish language.

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>>139762071
Józef Ignacy Kraszewski during his trip to Breslau from 1869 wrote:

>"(...) Germanization even until this day was not able to fully obliterate traces of old, Slavic extraction. Wroclaw is, we can already say this today, a half-polish city, because its part behind the Oder River, near Tum, even nowadays is called polish* and we can hear Polish language being spoken by inhabitants already in the suburbs of this city. (...)"

* This district of Breslau was called by Germans "Polnische seite".

And an ethnic German scholar - dr Partsch - in his book "Schlesien" from 1896 wrote:

>"(...) It is hard to believe, how could such a thing happen, that on the western side of the Oder River, in the Ohlau District as well as in the vincinity of parts of the Breslau District and the Strehlen District, there could survive completely compact territories of Polish-speaking inhabitants, which includes within its boundaries many important roads and which extends in all directions from the large center of transport that the city of Breslau is. (...)"

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>>139749060
FTFY

>>139751481
Laugh

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>>139761875
it only shows that poles are cucks, their living space was taken by german feudals.

poles are the only slavs that have lost so big lebensraum to germans.

you need to be grateful to stalin that he saved your people

>>139762339
>let's create poland without greater poland, the core of polish identity, language and culture

>>139762457
>poles are the only slavs that have lost so big lebensraum to germans.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Brest-Litovsk

>>139762469
>Let's crate Germany without Prussia, the core of German identity, language and culture

>>139760445
Most Germans would have a stroke if you dare suggest some kind of right to land by blood.

>>139762549
commies have not lost lebensraum, they simply tricked the germans and imperial russians and took all that lands back 1 year later.

they divided russian lebensraum and created meme countries, like ukraine or estonia.

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>>139762609
I couldn't care less about an artificial country founded on someone else's well-established territory.
>>139762834
>commies have not lost lebensraum, they simply tricked the germans and imperial russians and took all that lands back 1 year later.
you're historically illiterate

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>>139762609
Prussia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duchy_of_Prussia) was literally created by Poland as its eternal vassal until the Hohenzollern dynasty (prince titles given to them by Polish kings) died out.

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>>139763641
>For how many years was pa

>>139762895
brest litovsk was treaty between leninists-trortskiists and germans, it was a meme, in 1917 all that territories were not even controlled by leninists, they controlled only couple big cities.

axis have failed and bolshevicks have won civil war. so lebensraum was preverved.

in the same time poles have lost lebensraum to germans, german peasants colonized rural area and cities were settled by germans. polish peasants were turned into slaves.

what this map has common with living space?

poles have invaded southern russians principalities when they were in war with mongols, later all that lands were returned to russia. because it is a part of russian lebensraum

it only shows how greedy and evil is poland, it tries shit but fails all the time.

>>139749060
>that pitful coastline

Cucked as fuck

>>139751948
oy its missing most of the ukraine

>>139762895
I couldn´t care less about the prussian lands today, except for Königsberg and the parts up to Danzig. I just find it ridiculously shitty that all over the existence of the german lands, that everytime we took land it was seen as evil (which during WW2 it probably was) but all the time Germany was stolen lands it was all fine and dandy and we are racists for wanting int back. Take Elsass-Lothringen for example. It was taken from us and when we take it back from the french a few centuries later they chimp out.

The shit the allies pulled after the war was illegal anyway. For future reference, the 1917 borders of the German Reich are still legal in our laws. It´s just that an awful lot is under foreign administration. And you will never have the average german or an politician say that out loud.

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>>139762609
>>Let's crate Germany without Prussia, the core of German identity, language and culture
>The second German Reich was the core of German identity

>>139763822
Russia can take it

>>139764863
Oh well, at least the Poles won't build Mosques all over it.

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>>139765863
>at least the Poles won't build Mosques all over it

NOT SO FAST

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>>139750167
come home polenmensch

>>139765863
Over what?
>>139766019
100 of them were in Poland.

>>139761368

Well you can say all that but your race will litterally be genocided in about 50 years. How the fuck are you so calm and sedated

>>139761823
>>139761875
>>139762001
>>139762071
>>139762221
Yea, Silesia was mulitikulti, lots of germans and poles, but even in upper silesia, which was more polish than lower silesia, the majority of the people voted to remain in Germany.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upper_Silesia_plebiscite

Lower Silesia was so Polish that the commies had to """cleanse""" the area and replace almost everyone living there with people from Ukraine and Belarus who had absolutely no attachment to that region.

>>139766019
That's probably less muslims than in Berlin alone

>>139768541
>How the fuck are you so calm and sedated

see:
>>139752935
>>139752935

I love you all guys. Have a great weekend, dont spend to much time om the internet