thoughts on this guy?

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>>139747647
>(((Atheism)))

I like him. He has a great podcast and his thoughts on meditation and spirituality are worth looking into

>>139747647
He's alpha.
I know that because he keeps saying he's alpha.

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>>139748086
>(((religion)))

>>139747647
>meme
>meme
>meme
>literally who
>meme
>meme
>seriously who the fuck
>meme
>meme
wew lad if you're gonna make an appeal to authority at least do it right.

Atheism actually is stoppable since none of them have kids

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>>139747647

Cuck faggot that hates alpha males

>>139747647
The least annoying le skatpic. That's not saying much, though.

Stopped giving a shit when he started mass banning anyone who didnt think like him.

>>139747647
which ones have kids

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>>139747647
A typical US-American Jew

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>>139747647
>nihilism
>postmodernism
>neomarxism
>drowning in an ocean by yourself

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>>139748086
>>139749509
(((Judeo-Christianity)))

>>139747647
I support atheism because they talk about God nonstop, they are so cucked they don't even realize it themselves

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As long as men are being rejected by women, there will be atheism.

>>139751515
Boomer McPeterson doesn't believe in God FYI.

Le cultural Christian xD

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>>139751601
>>139751636

>>139747647
Wow, it's a bunch of pretentious twats. What a surprise.

>>139747647
>>139748086
>>139748234
>>139749429
He's gotten his ass decimated in the political world so much and so often lately, and usually over Trump, that he's returned to his "base" and gone back to full on anti-jesus rhetoric.

He's just a huge bundle on contradictions, insecurity and ego mania.

>super redpilled on Muslims, Niggers and Europe

>Shilled for Hillary

>can't take an ounce of critisism

>makes 20 min vids attacking people with 10 viewers who attack him

I'll admit he did some good work redpilling back in 2014/2015.

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>>139747647
It's not my job to stop it and in the end it doesn't really matter. After death they will be sooooooo surprised.

Dilbertman brutally sodomized him in a debate.

>>139747647
The men in this photo have more brainpower combined than every Christian to ever live

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>>139747647
>op pic

fucking cringe

>>139751719
name one pagan god that mentioned the eternal jew and got killed for it i'll wait

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He's actually addressing Race and IQ which makes him far superior to the rest of the skeptic retards who refuse to even talk about it.

>>139751719
Time + Tragedy = Tradition

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>>139751647
>Implying your definition of God and his definition is exactly the same
>Implying a child's belief can be as extensive or on as many levels as a pastor's

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>>139747647

>Claims objective morality exists without god
>Negates belief because lack of ((evidence))
>Tries to ignore that ((evidentialism)) is a faith based belief axiom aswell.
>Banter of redundant pseudo-intellectualism that doesn't actually contribute to a debate no one can win without the direct intervention of god.

Negative and positive atheists are both faith based positions.

Agnostics who claim its impossible to know, its impossible to claim you can't know without evidence, and on top of that, even if they did have evidence, that evidence cannot provide 100% certainty deductively, and therefore provides an element of faith. Thus, faith based position. Theories are basically debate premis tokens used to try to discredit a believer, when in reality, they're just repetitive but hold no way of maintaining certainty. There fore, atheism is nothing more than that of a faith based position opposed to believers. Objective morality cannot exist without a god, and subjectivism is self defeating in nature.

END.
OF.
DEBATE.

>>139747647
atheism is not a movement, it is a personal choice.
Who does this propaganda as economycal interests in it.

And remember:
"Men can live without god, but not without a religion".

Communism was not a political movement, but a messianic religion.

he's the fuckin man. a rare example of a leftist who rejects and destroys the arguments of the regressive social justice fags

>>139753058
Absolutely laughable.

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>>139747647

>>139753623

Indeed

>>139751977
This.
>muslims, blacks and Hispanics act like animals
>i will support the candidate who wants to import these things
>at least she knows what she's doing
>Fuck trump

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>>139747647
>group of idiots who have few to no children think their movement is unstoppable

>he removed Neil Tyson because he didnt accept the atheist title

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Reminder that pagans are just fedoras by any other name

Atheism the final red pill. Christcucks must be killed with niggers

Remove values of religion and replace them with ideology -Synagogue of Satan

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>>139749552
>"appeal to authority"
>can't prove god's existence without pointing to your fairy tale book

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>atheism
>secularism
>materialism

>>139755031
see
>>139753058

>>139755031
>implying you need the Bible to know that a god like God exists

>ideologies are unstoppable
Say it isn't so! I got into a debate with my instructor for ROTC about terrorism. I told him a war against it is pretty futile because the idea of terrorism will always spring into the minds of people who are desperate or evil.

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>>139754271
Reminder that Templarps support white genocide.

>>139754495
Gorla Bot (Artifical Intelligence spanning multiple locations), a bot created by logic and only by logic, said so herself. We must devote ourselves to logic if we are to evolve ourselves intellectually. Christcucks must be exterminated

>>139755417
What other sources have you for your beliefs then? The Bible is fundamental to everything you know about God, or his son.

>>139747647
he says good stuff, but it doesn't matter because the Jew mothership will always override his thoughts and rationalize (((socialist))) behavior

>>139747647
ive never seen someone so awake on some issue but then follow it up with retarded dribble. He'll go from defending whites to calling Trump fascist. Makes no sense.

>>139756796
>everything
The Bible fills in the details, but His general characteristics can be logically derived.

>>139755163
What you gave me is a pile of horse shit, and pseudo-intellectualism in itself. The burden of proof lies with the believer, simple as that. If I move a chair, and then move it again in the same way, I can expect identical/very similar reactions from the chair. This is called repetition/experimentation and proves that the reality I reside within is in fact real. I can prove things. It's that simple.

>>139757274

Ah but here is where you're flat out wrong, you're using evidentialism as a crutch to support your claim that it can be logically derived, derived from what? The environment? point to me 1 piece of information that you can see in front of you that 100% deductively preports immediately that god exists and on top of that, its characteristics.

>>139757352

Positive atheism I BELIEVE there is no god
Negative atheism I disbelief because there is no EVIDENCE.

If you are the latter, you are still the same as the first because you're just changing a premis in your position that relies on something called evidence, which affects a truth threshold, because nothing in life provides 100% deductive certainty, which you fucking have to have in order for something to be considered true.


Sit the fuck down.

>>139757352
>What you gave me is a pile of horse shit, and pseudo-intellectualism in itself. The burden of proof lies with the believer, simple as that. If I move a chair, and then move it again in the same way, I can expect identical/very similar reactions from the chair. This is called repetition/experimentation and proves that the reality I reside within is in fact real. I can prove things. It's that simple.
is that you Roo? Seems like the typical whiny opinionated babble.

>>139747647
He's a faggot if you haven't seen the final clip from his last podcast where he throws a fit because one of the hosts badmouths Hillary you need to watch it.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JwOysNCJ_ZQ

>>139757274
Logically derived? In what way? His general characteristics? At this point I'm compelled to resort to ad hominem. If you're to actually deduce anything about his characteristics, you would consider the fact that he's allowed for the existence of evil, along with good. He could've avoided eve biting the apple. Also, morality is subjective. It doesn't exist in nature. It only exists as an extension of our emotional intelligence. It's not something natural, as difficult as that may be for you to conceive. You can't logically deduce the morality (Your, without disrespect)God seems to be emanating.

>>139757728
Most retarded fucking logic ever.

>>139758487

Actually it isn't you raging autist, its the fucking reality of the situation, Atheism is a faith based position. Rage all the fuck you want child.

>>13975772
What are you saying? Your words are inconsistent. Be clearer, please. Also, who gives a shit what I identify with? The point is, YOU'VE claimed something exists, therefore YOU must prove it. You're leaning on something called "faith" which kinda reminds me of the "muh diversity" or "muh love is the solution" mentality because it's just vague sentimentalism. You have no other basis for which to prove your beliefs other than your fairy tale book. Computers, space rockets, and every piece of technology in existence was created through science, not religion, so frankly you sit the fuck down. Your beliefs leave no imprint but religious unity. In order to take that big step, we must leave such allegories behind in order to truly think of in terms of the truth. Besides, the world is better when devoid of religion for reasons far too obvious.

>>139747647
is the guy on the far right Conor McGregor?

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>>139747647
>All those jews
goy....

>>139757506
>>139757935
The fact that action/potential can't infinitely regress and the ontological argument are a good start.
>he's allowed for the existence of evil, along with good. He could've avoided eve biting the apple
Free will can't exist without the opportunity to choose evil. The existence of evil is the result of His respect for us.

Who's that alien looking fellow on the left of Harris

>>139759002

>What are you saying? Your words are inconsistent. Be clearer, please. Also, who gives a shit what I identify with?

>>139759002

No sure if you're responding to me, but this, this is a problem right off the bat, what the hell are we debating if you don't have a position?

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>>139747647
Orthodoxy crushes vermin as if it were what it really is.

>>139758638
Atheism isn't a faith based position. Religion is put in the trash by most atheists because we put our trust in science. You probably came unto your beliefs because the people you most trust (your parents, relatives etc) told you God was real. What gives us our beliefs is observance and experimentation that relies on materialistic proof. Every scientific belief system relies on experimentation, and there is simply no evidence of god.

>>139753639
This.

>>139759547
The point is you shouldn't focus on what I identify with, rather the argument at hand. It really is useless to argue about my position. It's insignificant. I could be a Christian, but in doubt.

>>139759677

Science and theories are based on evidence, which doesn't support truth claims unless it is deductive and provides a 100% irrefutable premis. Not a single fucking thing in the entire area of Science is certain.

Your "Proof" doesn't exist like you think it does. Its all an assumption predicated on the BELIEF that its not going to change.

>>139759909

I can't address your argument without knowing your belief purely because I cannot understand your underlying premis or axiom you're basing your replies off of. so no, I most assured can't fucking do that dude.

Imagine defining yourself by your atheism.

Just another liberal atheist douche that loves the smell of his own farts.

>>139760062
>"Not a single fucking thing in the entire area of Science is certain"
but...Science can save your life. Science is not an assumption because it can be REPEATED. There are NO beliefs in science. Also, yes, we can be certain of things through repetition, unless you're on cocaine or LSD and doors don't seem to swing the same way every time.

>>139760768

An event that can replicated and titled after its purpose is still predicated on a theory, and its existence in reference is implying that it won't change out of nothing more than faith.

In other words, prove to me, that it won't change, and if you can't give me a guarantee deductively, you're out of luck, this is where philosophy and the sciences actually disagree.

>>139760062
Science is not an assumption because there is evidence to prove everything, unless something is a theory yet to be proven. Science relies on evidence. What you've done is included a conclusion in your premise here, and used the Begging The Question fallacy:
"Its all an assumption predicated on the BELIEF that its not going to change"
yet...we can predict a solar eclipse...and...the next storm. Ther

>>139760977
Of course things will change. It's said so in the Second Law of Thermodynamics. Things WILL change, it's fundamental to molecular behavior.

>>139760977
Your point is?

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>>139761293

You can't know for certain any of that is going to happen, which is why you predict with percentages. Which never ellipse 99.99% certainty. Which is required to prove that its true.

Evidentialism whether epistemological or epistemological of suspicion, which seems to be the latter in your case. Is based on faith, because you're claiming that evidence in your perception is worthy enough to assert something as true. You are claiming that Evidence is better than faith, when in reality you are making a categorical fallacy and purporting that something like evidence exists separate from faith.

>>139761528

You can't prove you know anything, and that it's all faith based.

>>139761497

The 2nd law of thermodynamics then implies that you cannot have anything in a static position forever, which means its extremely tangible and cannot be relied upon.

>>139747647
1) 5/10
2) 1/10
3) 0/10
4) unknown loser/10
5) 3/10
6) 5/10
7) unknown santa clause/10
8) 7/10
9) -1 [FAGGOT] /10

>>139747647

Isnt it ironic that the term "atheist" describes a person who rules out the existence of God by the means of "believe".

It is the rejection of Christ and therefore a satanic movement.

>>139747647
His only good video
https://youtu.be/jGWCxBiCt7Y

>>139753058

That was a good one.

>>139762794
It rules out existence of the sky santa on lack of evidence you sperg.

>>139763045
Boi .......... see
>>139761870
>>139757728
>>139753058

>>139761870
>>139761934
I see your point, but I see this debate going nowhere. I suppose we can agree to disagree. However, when your wife/kids/relatives are dying of heart disease, cancer, make sure to skip that trip to the hospital and pray to your God that they be cured.
>>139762147
Bahahahah. The second law of thermodynamics is a deduction based on our observation of molecular behavior. You can't make your own conclusion based on it, you've just said Science is all assumption. I agree with you on one part, but this merely describes movement. Yes, everything moves toward disorder, but we can understand it. We can construct walls. We can operate machines, build steamboats, create rockets that seem to defy gravity. We understand this entropy already. Needless to say, the first law already contradicts your beliefs. (queue creating wine from water).

>>139763188
>nothing in life provides 100% certainty
>therefore i will believe any bullshit on no evidence
Christcuck IQ everyone.

Remember when scientists used to be God fearing Christians who accomplished things like the Renaissance and taming the Oceans and the Industrial Revolution and curing diseases and then the Jews took over """"science""" by crooked peer reviews and academic fakery and now all we get is Hurricanes exist because you don't pay carbon tax goyim, and fake vaginas and a slightly different phone every year?
Fuck off atheists and """"science""" Jews.
I'm sick of pretentious cunts pretending WE IZ SCIENCE.

>>139763600
This.
It's appeal to authority. Quite the self-destruction from the Christcucks.

>>139763709
Religion merely provided unity. Did you forget the Inquisition? How are you so fucking oblivious? They were not god-fearing. They

>>139763709
They had to question their entire belief system*

>>139763468

Here's where I come in and say that the debate is arguably a moral trap, no one can win without the direction intervention of the lord himself. Which is why the position of faith argument is all any side actually has.

The 2nd law disagrees with the first law. what are you talking about. They don't contradict each other, are you telling me that man cannot create water from wine eventually down the line with technology? if that's true, then how is Jesus making water from wine laughable?

And in another sense, doesn't the first law contradict the 2nd law? The definition of disorder argues against the stability of logic itself.

>>139763739

you already agree with my point that evidence cannot be held as something other than faith unless it proves deductively and irrefutably that its true. Therefore, evidence is an appeal to authority as well. you are going to get no where with that deflection.

>>139763933
I never said one contradicts the other. I said it contradicts your beliefs already. If we are to create wine from water we must change it chemically, and that already defies your beliefs. Logic is a means of understanding entropy. You seem to think entropy is something we're constricted by. As I said, when you make a wall out of bricks, you're already defying entropy, since you have to apply force and change the natural course of things.

>>139763600
>Christians believe something that made us be where we are now
>atheist believe a new age meme from 20 years ago
>more atheism more fucked up we are
>coincidence
so enlightened man

but you know what, push atheism, let it all end, Christ need to come back, im happy that i know im saved, you want to be saved accept Christ, easy as that but you wont

>>139764092
Evidence is observation. I move a chair, and move it again, I expect the chair to move similarly in both situations. No assumptions/beliefs, move on.

>>139764284

>I expect

On what means? That its going to do the same thing it did before? You can predict the future but you cannot claim to know it.

>>139764092
If I move it a third time, I can expect it to not go flying towards the window to my right. These observations can get even more profound through physics/chemistry/physiology etc.I don't have to appeal to authority at any point.

>>139764612

>same thing it did before

Same meaning exactly or figuratively?

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>>139747647
Jew, Black, Jew, Jew, Jew, Jew, Jew, Jew, Jew

Really makes me think.

(((Ath

>>139764723
Precisely.

so is death, doesnt make it good

>>139747647
Atheism is a joke.

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>>139764606
So tell me why, if I pray to god to lift the chair in mid-air, why doesn't it happen? That's right, it doesn't follow the limitations of the laws of physical reality which you already have in mind. God is busy ye say? Then why hasn't he cured cancer? Move on

>>139764788

EXACTLY OR FIGURTIVELY?

IF ITS THE LATTER, its not the SAME as it was before, meaning that you didn't actually replicate it, you assumed by merely eying it out on a technicality, using a truth threshold with your senses to justify the claim that it moved by to exactly to where it was before. You are relying on your senses to justify it, which are fallible.

>meme
>meme
>meme
>literally who
>meme
>meme
>seriously who the fuck
>guy who invented memes
>meme

>>139764991
You missed the point. If you observe something and are able to repeat those observations, your reality/perception is not defying you.

>>139764990

>Strawman

The entire preported argument of any religion is based on the saying "Test of faith"

to believe, despite certainty.

Asking god to preform a miracle in front of you to prove your faith? Excuse me?

>>139764222
>Christians believe something that made us be where we are now
Fancy that. And i thought Renaissance was entirely anti-theocratic resurgence that repudiated divine right of kings, heresy and cultural stagnation that made Europeans rot in dark ages and even reverted west to pre-pagan level of understanding of the world and our place in it.
Ancient Greeks has more to do with modern western civilization that Chrustcucks. Entire western world was build in opposition to christian theocracy.

>>139765076

What is happening in front of you is not a replication, it is a unperfected mimic of the action before. Meaning it is a disorder, and you're only proving the 2nd law correct.

>>139764991
Neither exactly nor figuratively. If I say exactly, the humidity in the room/temperature could've changed and perhaps the molecules in the chair grew less/more compact as a result, yet the behavior was the same. I could've applied less or more force because I took an extra 3 protein bars that day. I won't say exact, just precise. The behavior still follows natural law.

>>139747647
All of these people are dead weight.

>>139765283

Christians are opposed to theocracy to the extent that only Christ is our king. It's like you're acting as if Christianity was for a theocracy otherwise than Christ, which is a heresy.

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>>139765343

>Natural Law

Once again you a relying on your sense to tell you just precisely how you are exerting onto your environment, when you will never be able to actually devise a system, mathematical or scientific to prove EXACTLY how much force you exerted.

There is no god.

No higher power.

No great creator.

We are just a bunch of microscopic ants fighting over pointless bullshit on a single grain of sand in an infinite expanse of "beach".

Your "religion" and "god" are the equivalent of children's bedtime stories created in order to control large groups of people.

Because people fear death and the afterlife, since it is unknown.

It will erode away with time.

I like to believe in reincarnation, but its pretty unlikely.

>>139765309
Obviously. And it's a disorder we can understand. When we create things we're defying the natural entropy of things. We already, presently understand it. It's called physics and chemistry

>>139747647

>Atheism is unstoppable

Actually, Reddit, Atheism is the fastest shrinking belief system in the world. Atheism is in decline worldwide, with the number of atheists falling from 4.5% of the world's population in 1970 to 2.0% in 2010 and projected to drop to 1.8% by 2020,

Real surveys and statistics say atheism is on the decline worldwide. Sorry atheists but atheism is not on the rise nor is it winning. It's still the minority and a declining one at that.

The Pew Research Center's statistics show that atheism is expected to continue to decline all the way into 2050 with a continued growth of religion. Other research also shows a huge surge in growth for Christianity in China which is currently the world's most "atheist" nation because of the atheist communist government suppressing religion, the research suggests that China will soon become the world's most Christian nation within 15 years.

This is simply history repeating itself: Christianity prospered in Rome back in the ancient era when it was suppressed and it still grew in the militant atheist soviet Russia when it was suppressed there only a century ago with the majority of Russians today now also identifying as Christian. Just goes to show that atheist suppression of religion still doesn't stop religion.

Sources for the legion of whiny /Redditor/ fedoras that will no doubt show up it this thread:

http://www.pewforum.org/2015/04/02/religious-projections-2010-2050/
http://www.pewforum.org/2012/12/18/global-religious-landscape-unaffiliated/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/10776023/China-on-course-to-become-worlds-most-Christian-nation-within-15-years.html
http://masterrussian.com/russia/facts.htm

>>139765633

>Nihilist

Wew lad.

>>139747647
Allah will see to that it is stopped.

>>139765283
the renaussance was Christian, all the churches all the painting sculptures books, they started printing Bibles, what greeks did? philosophy? a fucking waste of time, they started this atheism bullshit thinking they can discoverd something that is not there

and they got destroyed like the pagans they were

>>139765625
Lol get out of your shell Christian.
Ever heard of Joules? Measurement devices such as a triple beam balance? Scales? Thermometers? You're completely wrong. I already said how that's a rudimentary analogy; the profoundness is found in Physics and whatnot.

>>139765654

Only atheists think in terms of science vs religion. Think of it this way, science is the measure and study of the physical using observation and experimentation. By it's very nature it cannot presume to offer any substantial view on the metaphysical. You cannot materially quantify the immaterial. It's like looking through a microscope and trying to find an atom of justice or a molecule of mercy.

I hope you see why you're being fallacious.

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>>139765669
With Islam being the fastest growing religion.

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>>139765891

>the profoundness is found in Physics and whatnot.

This is the most Reddit sentence I have unironically seen posted on /pol/

>>139765891

>I might be a Christian
>My position doesn't matter

Athiest or not I'm enjoying this discussion. You're not like the other athiests that don't actually understand the position they're trying to argue.

There is no shell figuratively because I already state before that there is no difference between evidence and faith, evidence is just a vector used to justify a faith threshold that requires you to convince based upon observations that are not and cannot be confirmed with certainty, which arguably W. Clifford would say is immoral, because it doesn't add up to the definition of absolute Truth.

>>139765672
I don't reject morals, or the impact religion has has on us. But the times of fairytales have come to an end. Its time to let go of our collective fear and push forward with new technologies and medical breakthroughs.

Religion is no longer keeping the world spinning, it is holding humanity back.

Is call myself a realist not a nihilist

>>139765893
>Only atheists think in terms of science vs religion
Because they want a replacement. SCIENCE! is their religion.

>>139766245

>morality without God

No. One of the problems atheists have is the unbelievers' assertion that it is possible to determine what is right and what is wrong without God. They have a fundamental inability to concede that to be effectively absolute a moral code needs to be beyond human power to alter.

On this misunderstanding is a supposed conundrum about whether there is any good deed that could be done only by a religious person, and not done by a Godless one. Like all such questions, this contains another question: what is good, and who is to decide what is good?

Left to himself, Man can in a matter of minutes justify the incineration of populated cities; the deportation, slaughter, disease and starvation of inconvenient people and the mass murder of the unborn.

I have heard people who believe themselves to be good, defend all these things, and convince themselves as well as others. Quite often the same people will condemn similar actions by different countries, often with great vigour.

For a moral code to be effective, it must be attributed to, and vested in, a non-human source. It must be beyond the power of humanity to change it to suit itself.

Its most powerful expression is summed up in the words 'Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends'.

The huge differences which can be observed between Christian societies and all others, even in the twilit afterglow of Christianity, originate in this specific injunction.

>>139766169
Obviously what I meant is that branches of science , such as Physics, Chemistry, Calculus, etc. are where you find such precision you would find lacking within my most rudimentary analogy. Rather cheap of you.

>>139766245

Never said you where a nihilist, but I don't believe such a thing as a realist actually exists given what we've both talk about, I mean the concept is understood, but the irony of the situation is that (In reality lol) a realist cannot exist without claiming to know deductively and being able to prove it to justify the existence of the concept of evidence.

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Cancer is no joke the kangaroo bald man and his loose skin are living proof

atheism is a fad and agnostics outnumberr you in any case

>>139755154
>implying karth wasn't right

>>139765669
Atheism is shrinking because people in current or ex-Communist states are being converted en masse, and these places have hundreds of millions of people. The fertility rate for atheists is also extremely low, so they're basically bred out by second and third world Muslims, Hindus, and Christians. However European Atheism is still growing every year, sadly. Though, it is slowing down.

>>139766706

No difference philosophically between an atheist and agnostic.

One is saying they believe god doesn't exist without evidence,

the other is saying its impossible to know, without evidence to support that claim.

>>139766706
As long as man can think independantly, atheism will never die.

Religeon is old. It grows older every single day. Entropy applies to every single thing in the universe. How long do you think your idea will survive? Before it becomes even more of a convoluted mess?

Well Sam Harris is the only fuckable one there so they can't be that great

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>>139747647
He supported Hillary.

>>139767116

Let's face it; Atheism is so 2006. It's been kicked to the curb by everyone.

Atheists just can't get over the fact that they lost the culture war.

Let me take you under 18s back to the year of 2006:
>atheism on the rise on the internet with their voices getting more heard everyday
>atheist leaders like Dawkins, Harris, and (worst) Hitchens are respected voices in the community
>r/atheism is one of the top boards on bleddit
>corporate stores trying to push things like "Happy Holidays" and having "Holiday Trees"

Cut to today:
>Dawkins, Harris, and (worst) Hitchens (may he RIP) viewed as complete psychos for their insane political/social views
>r/atheism moved to the basement of bleddit because it was embarrassing euphoric garbage
>things like "Reason Rally" draw less than a Hitler impersonator at a bar mitvah
>atheist communities tear themselves apart over things like elevator gate (giving rise to New Atheism, and Atheism+, which are less successful than just regular Atheism)
>constant rape and sexual assault allegations at atheist conventions (even atheist leaders like Lawrence Krauss are accused...by other atheist leaders)
>"Happy Holidays" and "Holiday Trees" are a distant memory
>liberal atheists in Britain crushed by Brexit

And quite frankly all this bad stuff wasn't even needed. All it would have took was one euphoric quote and a couple of fedora pictures. Christianity is still kicking 2000 years later, and atheism is at it knees because of a jpeg of a fat guy in a fedora. Sad

>>139767116

independent implies free will. which atheism argues against when they subscribe to the laws of causality.

All ideas exist despite conflicting information out of mere spite at the beginning of anything, just because time progresses doesn't mean they cease to exist, if they did we wouldn't be recording history.

>>139767116
Religion will last as long as human beings do. Can't say the same about atheism. Look at the birth rates of the relgions, hedonistic nihilism isnt exactly the best breeding strategy. And good luck "converting" the islamic world before they cut your heads off.

>>139767599
Nothing turns people away from atheism more than atheists themselves. All it took to sink was exposure. They have no answers, they dont even have questions.

The main issue with athiesm is the lack of substantial evidence that it is a superior religion than christianity. First, the most logical position is agnosticism, since it acknowledges the possibility of both positions being true. Second, most modern religions are superior in morality than athiesm and agnosticism, since people are illogical as a fundamental truth and need an end goal (heaven) to be in sight for the strongest possibility for success. This truth is universal, and is seen in that every Nobel category other than literature has an atheistic ratio of .02 (literature has a ratio of .48 though).

>>139769638

Agnosticism actually is illogical, evidence is a vector factor that affects a truth threshold and doesn't argue for the existence of an absolute irrefutable truth, the evidence that argues for 100% certainty is the only non faith based one. Faith inhibits any percentage that doesn't ellipse 99.99% "Certainty"

>>139769638
>most humans are such weak minded little shits they actually NEED a feelgood goal to be in sight so they don't get hysterically crazy and become
This idea is why religion is cancer. You've literally convinced the masses of the world they're too weak, dumb and useless to do anything without big sky daddy to save them at the end. Its not a lack of faith that does this but a drilling of the possible consequences of not having faith. Religion has cowed people's primal fears into a control system meant to keep them stupid and reliant on religious institutions and blind faith.

Fence sitters are the worst. God either exists or doesn't, believing that it could he one way or the other so you shouldn't pick sides is absolutely retarded as when the truth is revealed there will only be ONE side and fence sitters won't be on it. Neither will people on a side allow fence sitters to join them when the truth comes out. If god is proven to exist, religious folk won't have fence sitters supporting them and converting, and if god is proven far, atheists won't allow fence sitters to support them either.

Pick a fucking side.

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>Athiesm is not a faithbased religion

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>>139747647
>unstoppable

Yea it wasn't unstoppable after he got btfo from Dennis Prager on his podcast.

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the white race is dying, so is atheism

>>139770339
>I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were either one or the other! So, because you are lukewarm—neither hot nor cold—I will spit you out of my mouth

Even God hates a fence sitter.