The Left Backstab Anti-Fascists

>>139735117
Let's archive that

>https://washingtonpost com/opinions/yes-antifa-is-the-moral-equivalent-of-neo-nazis/2017/08/30/9a13b2f6-8d00-11e7-91d5-ab4e4bb76a3a_story.html
https://archive.is/ByyVo

>>139735117
I dont have concrete info but my guess informed by history is that the neoliberals have learned from the 1930s and so on and so on *sniff*
The violent actions of the original antifa and Rotkampferbund were what helped the National Socialists gain power
Nazis were almost as unpopular then with centrists as they are now BUT
The centrists were more scared of communists
My guess is neoliberals and globalists are reining in antifa just like they reined in Occupy
Just like they drained up and used the unions
Scattered thugs will remain to be used in the traveling protest circuit but if official support has been withdrawn I think the danger has largely passed

>>139735158
god bless you.

>>139735158
The hero we need.

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>Anyone got the strategic information on why the left would backstab the most effective street movement in America?

Simple, they started attacking journalists for filming them. It wasn't funny any more that the journos felt their sacred, untouchable class was now being attacked by these violent mobs, so now they must immediately disavow.

Sam Hyde was right

>>139735117
Because all people left of center are cowards who don't believe their own rhetoric and just side with any group that hurts the people that affect their revenue stream directly.

All leftists are spineless cowards.

>>139735117
The reason is the internet. The left used to be able to get away with not saying anything, but now they can't because videos of antifa being violent thugs are spread with the greatest of ease.

They finally baited the right into doing irreversible damage to itself, antifa is now a liability. Not much more to it.

>>139735117
the comments are all pretty pro-left though

the hardcore twitter leftists are doubling down on ANTIFA ARE ANTIFASCISTS IF YOU OPPOSE THEM YOU ARE FASCISTS

>>139737591
>the hardcore twitter leftists are doubling down on ANTIFA ARE ANTIFASCISTS IF YOU OPPOSE THEM YOU ARE FASCISTS
Excellent
They've all been so brainwashed they can't change course
This intolerable system will collapse due to incompetence of our opponents

>>139735117
>Anyone got the strategic information on why the left would backstab the most effective street movement in America?

>be Antifa
>assault reporters that try and film you
>chant about how you don't want the USA to exist
>destroy statues that have the support of over 60% of Americans
>harass disabled veteran
>beat 3 people up with bike lock
>throw improvised weapons at police officers

>>139737591
Thereby alienating ever greater numbers of normies, hopefully they keep it up

>>139736088

based tho a terrorist

Why did pelosi and the elite rules of "leftism" betray antifa so fast?

BLM, antifascism, bernie sanders, who is next for the leftist elite to target and destroy?

>>139735117
I've seen a lot of good opinions in this thread but I have to think it's just plausable deniability.
"We here at CNN certainly wouldn't OFFICIALLY APPROVE of you driving to the house of (effective non-libtard public figure) located at (insert addrezs here) and climing over the fence and breaking in through the unbarred bathroom window you can clearly see in this graphic we have on screen. More over we would DEFINATE not PAY YOUR LEGAL FEES. Coming up in the next hour Mueller's investigative team confident they will have enough evidence by the 2018 elections to prove Russia exists. Trump is clearly finished."

>>139735117
What were they supposed to do? Openly admit they worship Stalin and secretly want Holomodor 2.0?

>>139738519
Movement of peace

>>139736088
Sam Hyde on being accused of mass shootings, from wikipedia:
>"My wife's boyfriend (open relationship) heard it from the news first and so he and my wife's son were both scared silly for a few days before everything was explained. I also got a call from my rabbi frantically trying to talk me out of doing anything more violent until finally I managed to explain to him that it was a hoax."
...

>>139735117
This is an easy one. Jews love the U.S. economy even though it is still majority white. Trumps policies have made the future of the U.S. economy more relevant than it would have been under any other politician to the left of him. It would be too easy at this point to unite an American population against them, with the full power of the U.S. government, if they continue to pursue anti-American tactics and policies (whatever that may be). Prepare for people carrying the U.S. flag saying that America has always been a race mixing, jew loving paradise of white people who hate themselves and want to be replaced by immigrants because they have become too "decadent".

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>>139735117
Ultimately this is a great and wonderful thing for the new right. All of these shitty cuckhold politicians either failed to denounce antifa or actually endorsed them (Paul Ryan). They have exposed themselves to being defined as the Trotskyist that they are. I can't wait for midterm elections. The New Right must capitalize on this as much as possible.

>>139735117
Why won't you understand this is to give the Left back their victim card?

Running around and beating people over the head with bike locks for shits and giggles while having the entireity of the mainstream media and half of the political elite backing you is a pretty hard fucking sell to most people. With the media talking shit about Antifa it will once again make them look like golden hearted rebels, fighting an oppressive and racist machine, slandering them in the media and headed by Donald 'Literally Hitler' Trump.

Don't celebrate this shit. You are playing yourselves.

>>139736088
This 100%, they only care about leftist violence if it affects their own class.

>>139744426
Hmm, so the left support things like bernie sanders, blm, and antifa for short term gain then drop them for long-term virtue signalling?

Doesn't backstabbing bernie sanders, socialism, blm, and antifascists hurt the left though?

THEY ARE POSITIONING THEMSELVES FOR 2018

THEY ARE UP FOR RE-ELECTION IN THE MIDTERMS DO NOT BE FOOLED

>>139735117
Money. I dont know why nobody's mentioned this. The more the public becomes aware of antifa the more they will realize theyre (antifa) just a bunch of dangerous violent retards. If MSM continues supporting antifa they're going to lose support and money. Theyre just trying to get ahead of the curve so they can say "WE'VE been denouncing these thugs for months! Trust us!"

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>>139735117
>the media
>left-wing
Fuck off back to /ptg/ retard. The media Zionist and anti-white. It will flop from from far-left to far-right to protect Jews and attack whites.

>>139744648
I can't comment on all of those individual elements, but I will say that the Left has always portrayed itself as the underdog and this is how Leftists garnered public sympathy and were able to get away with anything up to literal murder for so long.

Leftists were MLK jr, Bernie Sanders, Nelson Mandela, even characters such as Che Gueverra and Leon Trotsky could be publicly revered. All seen as rebels, with hearts of gold, fighting an evil right wing cruelty of Hitlers, Tsars and the KKK.

It is now however, plainly obvious to the average person in the street that freedom of speech is being heavily curtailed by the Left, the internet is being censored by the Left, and so much of the media has massive Leftits bias. This had led the Leftists from being looked at sympathetically, to people now seeing them as the Establishment. And this is what has given this 'new' right so much traction, to the point where people who are self admittedly left leaning, are they themselves beginning to speak out at the absurdity of the Leftists.

By seeming to turn against Antifa, especially a t a time when trust in the media is at rock bottom to begin with, it may people pause for thought. "Well, if the evil media are opposing them, maybe they really are the good guys?"

Or I'm just paranoid as fuck. But with Jews...

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>>139744648
If you had a bunch of kikes implicitly supporting you, even going so far as to refuse to condemn you when you attack innocent people, you'd probably think twice.

Antifa want to think they're rebels, but they cant be rebels with the implicit support of the mainstream media, especially if that media is owned and controlled by a bunch of billionaires.

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>>139735117
Because 'the left' of the American media are not left, they're pussy neo-liberals who are just as threatened by the idea of a movement comprised of a lot of genuine socialists as the neo-nazis are.

They're propped up by corporate interests, and the idea of an emboldened well-coordinated street activist movement scares the FUCK out of anyone supported by corporate money. They want to get rid of Trump, but they don't like the idea of Antifa being the ones who brings him down. All they want to do is be stuck eternally in the Obama years, but that's not going to work. When Trump collapses, things will HAVE to change.

>>139735117

The Left has no principles.

If something doesn't work, they just slime to something else. Antifa being the good guys just doesn't work.

>>139747140
I think it's deeper than that, they have grown in such a sheltered enviroment that the tough of people in the street doing anything scares the shit out of them,

>>139746611
>Antifa want to think they're rebels, but they cant be rebels with the implicit support of the mainstream media
How fucking retarded are you? Did you not read OP?
>>139747140
>neo-liberals
Stopped reading there.

>>139735117
No one wins if antifa wins.

They used used them as pawns against the alt-right and then promptly sacrificed the fools.

2 birds 1 stone kind of deal.

>>139735117
>mfw making the 'antifa are the neo-nazi equivalent on the left' argument before it was cool

hahaha can't wait to see the layers of cognitive dissonance on all the libtards who flung their digital monkey faeces at me .

>>139735117
I think they realized that by letting antifa run wild they were actually pushing more people to the opposing side, it was having the opposite effect they wanted

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>>139747140
>the idea of an emboldened well-coordinated street activist movement scares the FUCK out of anyone supported by corporate money
Antifa is supported by corporate money. Why do you think they never oppose anything besides anti-immigrant movements? The rich love immigrants because they lower wages and enable the rich to keep more profits. Just ask anyone who owns a farm or construction company that employs immigrants. They're quite open about loving cheap labor.

The one issue that antifa mobilizes on is the one where they agree with the ruling classes. That should really make you think.

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>>139735117
>ANTIFA WAS WINNING GUISE!!!

No, no you weren't. The only people who didn't see that your shit wasn't sustainable was you. No surprise that you faggots deck yourselves out in red and black since Checkers is the only game you know how to play.

>>139735117
>angsty teenagers
>effective street movement
pick one

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>>139748192
>No surprise that you faggots deck yourselves out in red and black since Checkers is the only game you know how to play.


OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH SIICK BURN

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>>139747503
Basically this. They think they can take Trump down by acting smug and just calling him a dumb poopie head or whatever. Street action is not done with the intention of winning a popularity contest, but it has an important historical precedent, and has been historically met with the exact same kind of negative reaction even though it does achieve results.

>>139735117
Id say consider yourselves lucky the media is turning on you. The alternative was the rise of Nazism in the US, despite your claims to be fighting them you are setting up the exact situation that they thrive in. Extreme chaos calls for extreme order and destroying private property, attacking people for having opinions, and constantly putting cities into states of emergency will in fact make Nazism far more attractive to the average joe simply because they aren't doing those things and are going about their demonstrations legally and orderly while having a historical record of beating down commies and reinstating order. Even if people dont agree with them they will see it as a preferable alternative to anarchy and even a enticing one.

>>139748513
Why did people hate Mosley even before WW2? He is such a gent. I honestly don't understand how people could hate him before the whole Nazi thing.

Alright so first the nazis were purged, now the communists, next the jews right?

>>139748768
I mean really its like saying you are going to put out a fire by throwing gas on it.

>>139735117
Because this board started pushing back on the violence on the right. We told people not to attack and bring weapons to protests and get their shit pushed in for the optics.
Antifa is cancer if its the only side fighting. Antifa has been cancer for over a year and the unamerican activities of antifa can't be hidden in the mob anymore. A year ago, normies didn't know who antifa was. Now everbody knows and the MSM is trying to distance themselves because they know they can't control them anymore.

>>139735117

You got to realize that the Democrat elite aren't really leftists in the traditional sense. They're just authoritarians. They view the Antifa riots as useful in helping create a permanent underclass, so that they can dangle welfare in front of them in exchange for votes. The authoritarian Democrats then consolidate power by finding allies in big business, like Wall Street banks and big tech companies. Republicans are clueless to stop it since they still view this as a left vs. right philosophical debate, when it's really just about power.

So why did the Dem elite reign Antifa in? Simple, because again, the Dem elite aren't really leftists. It was getting to a point where Antifa was starting to overreach and further support might cause backlash against the big businesses, especially social media, that were supporting Antifa. So the Dems throw Antifa under the bus to protect their real power base, big business. Antifa was just a pawn.

Let's not overthink this, they very deliberately help set fire to your house, now they stand back and say oh wow that's horrible that your house is on fire. They then cut holes in the fire hose.

>>139747140

You beat me to it.

>>139735117
Please tell me they're not using the "these are not real anti-fascists" narrative.

>>139735117
Because they realize if they support Antifa there will be 12 more years of Trump.

>>139735117
How many times were they told they were nothing but modern brownshirts but still didn't get it?

>>139735117
>the most effective street movement in America

year boooooy

The mighty morphine flower arrangers are here to save the world

just let them catch their breath first

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>>139735117 (OP)
>the most effective street movement in America

year boooooy

The mighty morphine flower arrangers are here to save the world

just let them catch their breath first...

i can't wait til the coming chimp out. like imagine how it feels, imagine how it feels to be any american antifa member right now:
>first the country turns on you by voting in trump
>then soros turn on you by not paying
>then the mainstream media turn on you
all the """rights""" they thought they had claim to have been stripped.

now they're going to have a protest, possibly a large one, maybe even chimp out more than usual. except this time the police will turn on them.

and trump just re-allowed police to use military grade gear.

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good dog

>>139735117
Grow up son, both the stormfags and antifag, are tools. The guys that direct them are paid by the masters. They use them as necessary, then dumped. The status quo, never changes, the tools are sacrificed, when their purpose is served, there is no left or right. Just rich people with power.

>>139735117
>the most ineffective street movement in America

ftfy yw

https://youtu.be/lq9xSog4H68

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of course they gonna attack us you cuck. now you see the diffrance between anarchists and liberals? do you actuality believed those alex jones conspiracy theories.

anyway. no body gives a fuck about the big media, it was only a matter of time, and the fact that they went from imbracing us to slamming us in only a week further disqualifies them to their readers

This is simple. The media stopped getting paid to support antifa. they are corporate whores and saw which way the wind was blowing.

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i love seeing the left eat each other alive, every time.

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>>139751288
who's streets? antifa's streets.

Soo, the question remains. Will there still be riots and shit to watch on jewtube? I am hoping this infact makes antifa louder amd crazier.

I bet more than a few Antifas figure out about the Jews behind the curtains. They probably just found out about Stalin killing Bolshevik Jews too and quickly spotted the parallels with modern Jewish dominance in society.

Those two events combined make a stomach turning combination for (((Elites))) all over the world.

As Kevin MacDonald said in the Culture Of Critique, "Two can play at identity politics and when that happens, woe be unto the side with fewer numbers."

>>139735117
The Left still has BLM so it makes zero difference in the greater scheme of things, they're just cutting their losses and antifa will retreat into the background just like they were before.

>>139751468
whose* pleb

>>139735117
>the most ridiculous bunch of losers in America

https://youtu.be/yo2U4EE51lo

>>139751496
no doubt, sub to Seb Green on youtube, he does streams of their protests

>>139751468
I thought no one owned anything in your commie dream land

make up your minds idiots

>>139735117

fucking weird. I noticed the same thing about 2 nights ago. Suddenly there was a influx of anti-antifa articles and posts,

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>>139752017
this is not our "commie dream land"

this is capitalist occupied land, but we're liberating it one street at a time from the alt right reactionary forces

>>139735117
It's simple friendo. They see Antifa as something that will destroy them completely if they keep on being associated with it. They're now trying to distance themselves and pretend they never supported them.

If we allowed this, we would be wasting a golden opportunity. If we could point out all the support they have been giving Antifa in the past and show how now they are backing off, it could not only tie them to the movement but effectively end them through their own hypocrisy. DOWN WITH THE MSM!!!!
PRAISE KEK!!!!

>>139735117
>Anyone got the strategic information on why the left would backstab the most effective street movement in America?
>get your shit pushed in by /pol/ virgins when the police wasn't there to help you

heh

>>139751149
>now you see the diffrance between anarchists and liberals?
fuck off commie

The press was merrily supporting them until antifa started attacking journalists.

>first they came for the alt right and I said fug da bolis :DDD because Spencer is a fag lol
>then they came for the Trump supporters and I said fug da bolis :DDD because I'm not a Trump supporter
>finally they came for me and I said HALP BOLIS :DDD

>>139735117
>antifa was winning
lmao. no, you fags were losing again. So much so that even the media backed off from support. losers. antida are worse than nazis because nazis are open about their ideals. antifa are worse than nazis

>>139745646
>media turning far right to attack whites

uh ok

>>139752306
well either way thanks for the entertainment

>>139735117

Wait, these companies want clicks, right? If we click the links, doesn't that encourage similar content? Maybe we should only avoid clicking links that are biased in the other direction. If enough people clicked links like this, WaPo might change their bent.

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>>139748192

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>>139753120
Happens a lot you'll be surprised.

>>139753216
you guys try to rally again and more is granteed

>>139753491
u mad?

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>>139753646
mad about what? we won your asses, i dont see who there gonna be another Alt Cucks rally again. i read the Berkeley's "week of free speech" is canceled

>>139753120

Far right corrals us into useful idiots for Zionist/oil wars. Trump is "far right" and bombed Syria for Israel.

>>139753957
What, 300 people beat up what, 1 guy and completely lost the public support in 1 day?

Milo's free speech week is still on.

>>139752306
Did you liberate that truck or did that white rick turd in the front seat buy it for you.
Fooking larptards.

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"FUCK YOU NAZIS" guys YT account has been found...

What to do??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgUVrelvi50

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkHX0RaEo4mlXWRPkwthAiA/

>>139753957
don't you think that's sad, considering Berkeley is famous for its free speech movements in the 60's and 70's?

Genuine question.

Isn't debate an important tool in intellectual centers like colleges?

Personally I think it's a step backwards to be closed to different opinions, and will lead to duller minds.

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>>139754291
come on, the violence was minimal. no serious wounds. we just evacuated you and your whining about it is pathetic. and as for the media bullshit, who fucking cares? the media hated Trump too but he won didn't he?

>>139754630
>“Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them…We should therefore claim, in the name of tolerance, the right not to tolerate the intolerant. We should claim that any movement preaching intolerance places itself outside the law, and we should consider incitement to intolerance and persecution as criminal, in the same way as we should consider incitement to murder, or to kidnapping, or to the revival of the slave trade, as criminal.”

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>>139735117
Does this mean that the useful idiots have outlived their usefulness? What will (((their))) next step be?

>>139754684
Antifa is a joke. They only exist because liberals are ignorant, but that is quickly changing.

>>139748785
>jew owned media attacks Nazis but due to the weakness of the Weimar constitution and commie threat fail
>Nazis win power and purge the jewish owned press

>jew owned media and interests in Britain see Mosley and fear the rising fire
>oy vey best to stomp this out before it gains traction like in Germany

>>139754889
antifa causes a crisis within the liberal, it splits the left. thats OK. we consider liberals, as, to barrow Alt right term "cuckleftis" we gonna see who's /ourguys/ are now

>>139736088
I thought they had attacked journalists in previous protests though.

>>139754822
I agree, I feel the same way about being tolerant to an intolerant religion, that will not bend or compromise to the culture it moves in to.

Also I think not tolerating debate or other points of view makes Berkeley intolerant.

And I don't think all conservatives are intolerant, just as not all liberals are really tolerant.

We're debating now, and I think it's helpful to move forwards as a whole, instead of maintaining divisions in the populous.

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I would love to see screenshots of Antifa forums of them freaking out that everyone is turning on them

It's not backstabbing, antifas make the left look even worse by association. It gives ammo to their ideological opponents. This is proof the left isn't completely suicidal.

>>139755560
look man, maybe.... MAYBE.... we could tolerate you guys up until charlottesville.

but no way for it now, we are worlds apart. you really did yourselves in that day. at bottom, and maybe you dont realize that, you are pure reaction to the occupy movement and to BLM.

>>139735117
A lot of people are really overthinking this.

No normies knew who Antifa was a few weeks ago. Then Trump name dropped Antifa and now millions of Americans looked up what they are.

The left can no longer support or ignore flag burning communist agitators who assault people for having the wrong opinion.

Basically, useful idiots are always the first to get killed after they stop being useful.

BLM started fighting with them and the Left still thinks they can get the black vote in Obama numbers so they had to side with BLM

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>>139755600
fucking kek is that guy real?

Look at that neck, he looks like a snake

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>>139735117
It's simple.

They want people to vote for Democrat.

The media is the reason why Antifa is like this. Countless months of #resist and "TRUMP IS HITLER" has led to people actually drinking the Kool-Aid and starting up Antifa movements.

They were originally supporting them, but when they got out of hand, they had to be brought down.

Don't be fooled by this. The media is responsible for Antifa. All they're doing is cutting off the remaining ties.

>>139756234
youtube.com/watch?v=zAwcj6d8XTQ

>>139756234
maybe he's on meth

>>139756113
That was one crazy guy, we don't even know his story, he could even be a patsy.

What about Clanton? Hitting 7 people in the head with a blunt object.

There are good and bad on both sides, and if you're referring to the piss-taking after Charlottesville, yeah I agree it was in bad taste when you think of the girl's family and friends, but this is a banter site, of course there was going to be jokes made, just as your side does I'm sure. One less Nazi etc, but we're not Nazi's, that's actually the same trick the real Nazi's used to not feel bad about attacking Jews, dehumanising them calling them roaches, just as you call us Nazi's, so anything that happens to a roach and a Nazi is then OK because they're not human.

Anyway we could go back and forth.

I just hope we don't lose our souls in all this. We're all just people with different points of view, and to be able to see that is important I think.

Thanks for the dialogue.

it's teh klong knight of knives which are klong

klong knives

>>139756738
kek wtf

>>139757311
oh your humans alright, nazis were humans, they just were so different as to deserve the title "enemy" from others. you see trouble with some 1 percent Muslims coming to get you, we see trouble with the 1 percent that actually got you

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>>139735117

I'd like to think they realize how ridiculous the whole Anfifa/Altright flashmobs look with their $2 chinese made tactical zombie fighter gear and rainbow hair colors.

>Antifa was winning.

They never were, they just had more unemployed people who had free time to protest.

They realized everyone hates ANTIFA faggots. They're basically the lefts equivalent of the "toothless redneck neo-nazi"

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>>139757881
Fuck him and fuck you. You don't understand anything. If you are in Canada I'd be happy to meet up and debate in person.

>>139757881
I'm not thinking of Muslims, I'm thinking that a religion, that is opposed to a reformation, and still holds views from a religion of a fighting people from primitive times, which is still anti-gay, and endorses killing gay men, as we see in Saudi, via Shariah Law. Also anti-female equality. And all the other out of date philosophies. But I'm not over concerned about these things personally, as I'm not gay or female. My principle is that if a country is tolerant, it will adapt to the subject, and if the subject is intolerant, it will not compromise, it will grow as numbers grow, and if the country keeps tolerating it, eventually the country will become that intolerant subject. If you see what I mean.

That's why I don't think you should tolerate intolerance, and we agree on that, but we focus on different intolerances. And that makes us intolerant to each other. It's a bit comical really.

No group is all good or all bad, no race, no gender. Not your side, or mine. There are good people on both sides, and bad. I try and remember that.

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>>139735117
>Antifa was winning.
If your definition of winning is beating up defenseless old women, paraplegic veterans, and screaming "NAZIIIII!!!!" at any non-liberal opinion. Ordinary people have very low tolerance for this sort of behavior, particularly coming from what everyone instinctively understands are the lowest scum of our society. The liberal elite understand that this shit will not only push more people to the right but ultimately make violence acceptable to the right, and when that happens they don't just lose, they end up back in the ovens.

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>>139735117

>Niggers
>Mexicans
>Bernouts
>Antifa faggots

Seems like the Left uses and discards everyone they deal with.

>>139735117
Antifa = losers

They are trying to get rid of the crazy leftists from the democratic party as they rebrand themselves as the "no wait rust belt please come back" party

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>>139735117
It's a psyop. They are trying to take advantage of internet counter-culture.

>oh wow the media hates antifa
>they must be the good guys then

Months from now 4chan will be pro-antifa.

>>139757881
If I accept your world POV, 1 of all muslims is about 16 million.

>>139735117
What makes you think that black bloc Anti-fa are good for the left? They're a bunch of violent jackasses who give leftists bad publicity. Many of them also seem to hate moderate leftists as much as they hate right-wingers.
The proper way to suppress right-wing populism is by using the power of the state, not with random street fighting.
Who else /deepstate/ here?

>>139754822
So you don't understand Karl Popper at all. Karl Popper said that is, only as a last resort, you used violence as your first resort, becoming intolerant yourself, So in the end we have to destroy you.

>>139735117
>Anyone got the strategic information on why the left would backstab the most effective street movement in America?
You don't want accelerationism when you are already in control

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>>139759069
i dont think you shouldn't care about fundamentalist islam because you're " personally, not gay or female" i think you shouldn't care about fundamentalist islam because, assuming you live in the US, Muslims are 0.9% of the population there. and they arn't particularly wealthy wealthy and resourceful as to impose sharia law on everyone else. this is just scare mongering.

who owns america? the billionaire class, trump included, to think he knows something about our realty is nonsense. this is just shifting attention from our obvious adversary to some boggyman in the form of a BLM activist, some feminist, some melon picking Mexican and whoever else just to buy some time for this hopeless order go on a little bit more

>>139751468
Who is streets?

>>139735117
Because tattooist organization

>>139735117
It doesn't take much research to discover that Antifa are largely just a violent mob of drug addicts with no vision for the future except more violence. The only people who have anything to gain from what Antifa does are destructive globalists who profit from that sort of shit. The average person on the street will get nothing but suffering.

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>>139747777
Lucky quads checked

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>>139735117
>Antifa was winning

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>>139748959
More like choosing to eat a fruit or vegetable you dont like over eating an actual turd.

>>139737591
This is hilarious because they crucify even slightly disconcerted normies just for not jumping to the same conclusion they have instantly. They could literally be your average unassuming garden variety demo and go
>I don't know guys... Nazis are bad but should we really be going around attacking people?
And the left will jump down their throats. For being as noncommittal and lukewarm as that. Leftists cannot into optics

the antifa is taking the MSM down

they need to disasociate fast because americans didnt even know their name till after charlottesville

they didnt know antifa was responsible for berkeley or la/st louis/chicago/arizona all of the counter trump protests that ended in violence

now the people know they exist and their dirty deeds are sticking up like sore thumbs

plus their long history of abuse in europe

we also can forget the g10 summit riots that included like 2000 protesters and resulted in violence and burning vehicles

antifa cant just settle for verbal threats they need to burn and kill

>>139760571
Islam

Intolerant of gay, female rights, leavers of Islam, non believers of Allah, raped women

Right, intolerant of intolerant Islam, mostly tolerant of left

Left, tolerant of intolerant Islam, intolerant of right who are intolerant of intolerant Islam

It's a funny old world. I bet politics aside we could all get along

Who perpetuates politics? The media and government

What does that achieve?
Divided population, which can be exploited for money, control, distracting each other

Ultimately though I think to suppress peaceful debate and discussion, means a never ending battle that can't end, but could get a whole lot worse, as each side looks to out do the other.

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>>139762390

>antifa riots at g10 summits

>antifa endorses globalism

typical right wing logic

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whos got that report of antifa getting arrested in LA and all of them had drugs and weapons to a peaceful protest


they couldnt even go a day without their dependencies of needles and crack pipes

also what about the deploraball when they tried to throw acid at people and piss bottles

>>139762749
I meant G20 summit
>implying antifa wants borders
>inb4 whats globalism

heres a link youll trust kike shill

http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/07/europe/g20-hamburg-protests/index.html

>G20 protesters set street fires, loot stores

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>>139762641
how the fuck are we tolerant of intolerant Islam, guy? watch and read

https://itsgoingdown.org/right-urges-fear-refugees-antifa-fighting-isis/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boEHCIugp9k

talking "The media" while rehearsing Fox news bullshit

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>>139763071
yeah man, you want a revolution orchestrated from the white house? you want an insurrection without chaos? damn... you alt right cuck are are the embodiment of what you yourself call "moralfags"

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>>139751468
Kek at all those sticks.

This is why I have a 100rd magazine for my AR.

>>139751666
Satan's trips checked

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HERE'S HOW WE CAN CAPITALIZE ON IT;

Anons that live near or attend a college, get in here. >>139751850

College campuses are the primary hub of marxist-globalist indoctrination in the USA. Whenever the brainwashed leftist hordes get out of line enough to make national news like at Evergreen or Mizzou the college sees a significant decline in enrolments, which leads to budget cuts and marxist "professors" getting laid off.

We want more of this. We need anons to put their college name and an upcoming date in the black block on this flier, print out a heap of copies and plaster campus. The local Antifa/BLM is guaranteed to chimp out and cause a scene. Since the media is currently throwing Antifa under the bus, any chimpingout they do will garner negative press. Enough anons doing this will lead to mass triggerings that will cause more downsizings of these institutions, our endgame is the total shut down of all college leftist brainwashing.

If we can induce enough Evergreen style chimpouts across the country, we can make it simply too costly for the institutions to continue degenerating the minds of their students, thus fixing education once and for all.

>>139751850
>>139751850
>>139751850

>>139763209
well all I've ever seen from the left on Islam from the left or right media is either silence or support.

And I think it's strange and suspect that a very right wing religion was having its balls constantly tickled by the left.

One more thing though, the thing on Anarchism, what happens when all control structures are destroyed? It creates a vacuum, where surely the law of the jungle comes into play, and the baddest most oppressive heavily armed bastards fill that opportunity. Just as deposing all the middle eastern tyrants has led to much worse and a continued instability and civil wars.

Anarchy would be hell on Earth.

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>>139764252

>>139751850
>>139751850
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>>139763511
Moralfag is a term kiddies on /b/ use. Try again.

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>>139764404
>An Egyptian writer, a dyed-in-the-wool liberal, wrote in the now-distant days of the first Tahrir square: “The people I saw on Tahrir Square were new Egyptians, having nothing in common with the Egyptians I was used to dealing with every day. It was as if the revolution had created Egyptians in a higher form […], as if the revolution had not only rid Egyptians of their fear but also cured them of their social defects. […] Tahrir Square became like the Paris Commune. The authority of the regime collapsed and the authority of the people took its place. Committees were formed everywhere, committees to clean the square and committees to set up lavatories and washrooms. Volunteer doctors set up a field hospital.” In Oakland, the Occupy movement held Oscar Grant Plaza as the “Oakland Commune.” In Istanbul, no better name could be found, already in the first days, than the “Taksim Commune” for what was coming into existence there. A way of saying that revolution was not something that Taksim might lead to one day, but its existence in actuality, its ebullient immanence, here and now. In September, 2012, a poor Nile Delta village, Tahsin, 3,000 inhabitants, declared its independence from the Egyptian state. “We will no longer pay taxes. We will no longer pay for schools. We’ll operate our own schools. We’ll collect our garbage and maintain our roads ourselves. And if an employee of the state sets foot in the village for any other purpose than to help us, we’ll throw him out,”

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/the-invisible-committe-to-our-friends#toc30

>>139735117
They realized that Antifa was a voting drainage. And they are now disassociating from them, to appeal to the centre. This will have the right wing doing the same thing with the alt right.

It's too late for the DNC though.

>>139764994
pretty interesting, I do like the idea of less government control, I'm just wary of what replaces it in total anarchy. It's interesting times, the current capitalist structure can't go on much longer like this, with the money constantly going into the elite pockets, and the deficit breaking 20t. I just hope we all find a better way as humans to live in a nicer world, I just can't see that happening from either above or below.

Anyway good chat, thanks for the discussion.

>>139739545
Criminality 101. You disavow anyone who's bringing heat.

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>>139765949
anytime

>>139764994
The problem is that it's relatively easy to have a successful spontaneous community organize when there is a clear outside danger like the state forces in Egypt, or at least the appearance of outside danger, as at Occupy. I well remember Occupy Oakland and Occupy SF, since I was there myself. There was indeed a powerful, intoxicating sense of revolution and transcendence in the air. It was like first love, or some mystic revelation. Flowers smelled better, the birds sang more clearly. The moon was gorgeous as it hung over a sky suddenly full of alluring meaning.
But, just as romantic infatuation often proves itself to be just a sort of drug, a temporary uplift that makes everything happier but wears off, so too I fear with such political phenomena. If the revolution prevails, then what?
History has shown such populist movements to have a bad track record once they actually take power. Often there is murder, oppression, infighting. The streets run red with blood. When the outside menace has been defeated, the question remains of how to practically organize society. Humans are great at spontaneously forming functioning groups - I suspect that our evolution has prepared us with this skill - but to have modern civilization requires much more than this.
Historically, both left-wing and right-wing populism have generally been more likely to create hell on earth than heaven.

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>>139751468
So that's why the streets look like a communist shithole?

Come join us Capitalists. It's so much nicer desu.

>>139766508
I don't think the streets would look like that in a real ancap society. I like capitalism, but without a state to impose rule of law I see no way it wouldn't just devolve into warlordism as powerful entities use violence to decide who gets to be the new state.

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the left was winning? Antifa is a bunch or morons who deserve to be run over

>>139766508
for every such neighborhood there are two slums,but people there should just lift themselves up from their bootstraps right?