NZ DEBATE TONIGHT

horsie vs idiot.

can't believe it's come down to this. Can't believe the flak trump gets here, and as soon as horsie gets in 10% of the vote swap over.

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>>139701682
>Labour overtakes national in both preferred prime minister and party vote
WHY THE FUCK DO PEOPLE LIKE THAT UGLY CUNT JEWCINDA

>Irrelevant country does a thing
Convince me to care

>>139702983
Cause she's a women

>>139702983
You're a sexist who thinks women should stay in the kitchen.

>>139703050
t. burger educated probably doesn't even know where new zealand is

>>139701682
I've already promised my baubles and orifice to the Winster, so not really interested in watching red vs blue.

>>139703050
>nz gives women the vote
>rest of the world gives women the vote
Wait for 2020 when nz gets UBI

>>139703330
I've been there for a Rugby tour with my college team, and we got fucking rekt, but I still love your country. That doesn't mean your politics are relevant.

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>>139703413
i've got almost all my mates voting for winnie. my only hope now is if he becomes kingmaker and prime minister from the negotiations thereafter. otherwise this country will be fucked from horseface mccuntsworth

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>>139702983
Das rite.

LABOUR + NZ FIRST GOV SOON

>>139703566
You are doing God's work

>>139702983
Because Bill English has about as much charisma as a Hawaiian pizza with spaghetti on top.

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>yfw Bill English loses his bid to become prime minister AGAIN

teethie.

she looks like a farm animal

>>139703232
Taxinda should. She hasn't had a real job, that's why she's offering to pay for her base's university fees, keep the gravy train going

take a shot everytime Jacinda refuses to accept something
take a shot everytime bill delivers something

>>139701682

Central Intelligence Agency. CIA. Look for Norwegian IP.

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Give me a quick rundown on the NZ political parties and which person is leading what.

>>139703754
>Literally has to get the title handed to him by a jew
Maybe we'll get to see him in another boxing match.

>>139703793
Fuck this shit

>>139701682
Which ones are /ourparty/?

>>139703874
labour are the lefties
jacinda is barack obama
national are the neolibs
bill english is like male hillary clinton
nz first are the nationalists
greens died like 2 weeks ago
the rest are irrelevant

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>>139703874
Yeah which candidate would Jews/Sauron hate the most?

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EVERY WORD SHE HAS SAID IS LETS TAX AND SPEND.

I AM A WORKING SINGLE MALE WITH NO CHILDREN. FUCK YOU TAXINDA REEEEEEEEEE

>>139703430
Dont tell them its not the jews

>>139701682
>NZ DEBATE TONIGHT
Who the fuck cares?

>>139703754
This will actually happen.
>>139703793
Isn't that subsidy for only the first year?

>>139704035
nz first are mild civic nat centrists

>>139703874
>National
Chinese proxy led by Bill English.

>Labour
Somali proxy led by Jacinda Ardern

>Greens
Somali proxy led by who cares

>New Zealand First
Old people proxy led by an angry Maori guy

>ACT
Chinese proxy led by the goodest of Goys

>Maori
Not even a proxy. Led by by Queen Mafa'famuhallana III.

>TOP
Some rich guy who killed his campaign years before it started by becoming known for his hatred of cats.

>>139704035
Does NZ have significant nonwhite immigration? Are Maoris bro-tier like Jemaine in FoTC?

I've only seen that one drinking and driving ad so I'm assuming there's a host of social problems with your Pacific Islanders

>>139704035
So NZ first are /ourguys/ but they have practically no chance of winning I imagine? At least you guys actually have a nationalist party though so thats a plus.

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>>139703793
>that's why she's offering to pay for her base's university fees
Do you even realise where you live you Americanized faggot.

>>139704073
pic, Winne Peterson

>>139704127
>america's "strongest" state gets BTFO by some wind and water
LAMO

>>139704176
Nah they might get 7-12% of the vote and decide which party becomes the government

>we're gonna fix this problem by throwing money at it

This is my first election and jesus christ I didn't know it was this bad. Jacinda virtues signals every fucking 30 seconds.

>>139704176
NZ First is the kingmaker actually. No matter who wins, they can't form a majority without the 10% from NZF.

>>139704168
Lots of wage and drinking isues with maori, but racism here compared to other mixed race nations is incredibly low. NZ probably has the best race relations of all the colonised countries.
>>139704176
>mmp
>winning
NZ first will always be in government, they're the kingmakers. Neither labour or national are at 50% so they have to form a coalition with NZ first

>>139701682
bitches with that much teeth shouldnt smile

>>139704345
neither should Jacinda either desu

>>139704316
People dont like Bill English but he is attempting to use Big data.

That is huge. There is no reason Jacinda should be just throwing money around like she wants to.

>>139704168
maoris are either stoned idiots, violent thugs, or greedy jews going on about muh tribe spirituality for gibs.

They're relatively adjusted compared to coons though. They're not that bad. Most are mixed as fuck so predominantly white that just get student gibs.

Fobs are worse, but pacific islanders/maoris grouped together.

>>139704270
>america's "strongest" state gets BTFO by some wind and water
California?

>>139704157
You're right, although they're promising to extend it to 3 years by 2024

>>139704164
Fantastic rundown

>>139701682
Damn, didn't know Phar Lap was running for pm.

>>139704332
>NZ first will always be in government
Lol what happened from 2008 till now?

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>>139704332
>NZ probably has the best race relations of all the colonised countries
Don't know about that mate. Went to the Paknsave (yeah I know) once with me missus a couple of nights ago and this one maori nigger stared at me like his life depended on it when i was at the checkout, like i should give him my share of food for being in his land. I stared the cunt right the fuck back and was ready to give him a hiding. He followed me and the missus back to me car before he started staring at other white folks.

I fucking hate maoriniggers.

I just cringed watching Bill respond to that cannabis question

>>139704549
>muh reparations for the 4g spirit spectrum

>>139703050
>Convince me to care
you shouldn't

>>139704864
I'm not watching the debate because the whole thing makes me cringe. What did he say?
>not enough data

>>139704864
wtf is national's problem with weed?

>>139704832
It's hard to take your account seriously when you admit that you're racist.

>>139704972
Hes right though. The based maori meme needs to die

>>139704923
exactly
>>139704932
Idk but I really want to hear labour talk about recreational weed. They've only talked about medical weed

So we can ether let Bill sell us to the Chinese or Jacinda handing out more gibs? Fucking great

Holy shit New Zealand
Have a friend from NZ and she's a ultramegaturboslut

>>139705265
Sounds about right.

>>139704832
t. Things that never happened

>>139705027
>white people come into your country
>suddenly your language is dying and all the immigrants are controlling the entire country and are much richer than you
Life is objectively harder if you're born maori, so it's entirely understandable why there's a fair amount of racism against white people by Maori, even if it's not justifiable.

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>>139703566
>mfw my normie friends are all voting for the wench despite my pleas for sanity

>>139705039
Honestly the whole weed thing is so bizarre even in the US. Medical Marijuana is ranked highly with conservatives, Republicans and Democrats. But if you look at recreation everyone that is under 70 supports it.

I just think it's going to be another 5 to 10 years before your country and mine adopt it.

>>139705344
cuck faggot, get off /pol/ and go back to
thedonald.

You have your own seats and get gibs and scholarships just for being a maori.

"Muh racism". Go back to plebbit.

>>139705344
Yea, fuck whitey. We wuz warriors an shet!

>>139705265
Этo типичнo для Hoвoзeлaндcких жeнщин, Bacилий.

>>139704549
dis
>>139704168
big time. big chink investment and immigration, indian subcontinent economic migrants, 2-3k somalis a year last time i chcked

LAB 43%
NAT 41%

Nattards BTFO! inb4 Jacinda pegs Bill and gives him hickeys on the back of his neck!

>>139705344
>white ppl come into ur country
aaaand help the country to progress further than it would ever have if maori were left to continue brutalising each other and eating the remains for mana.
there aren't even any maori left, the only ones u get now are ppl who spout about their maoriness because their granddad was halfcast. it's beyond joke.
I can see the arguments now
>muh maori economy
>muh te reo should be learnt by all
>we did things differently n sheit
>warriorz n sheit

>>139701682
I'M ALREADY SICK OF THAT DONKEY FACED WOMAN FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

>>139703658
I can live with that.

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>>139705883
>born too late to conquer the Maoris
>born too early to drive out the Chinks
>born just in time to sit comfortably on the dole for the rest of your life

>>139705862
I don't disagree. White people coming to NZ was the best thing for the Maori people. But statistically life is worse for Maori than for White people. This isn't an opinion of mine this is based on data. Wages are lower, education is lower, domestic violence is higher ect.

>>139701682
btw horseface will be at UoA quad tomorrow midday. feel free to come along and give her some shit

>>139705519
>2-3k somalis a year last time i chcked
The fuck? How? Our refugee quota isn't that high

They are among the shittest of immigrants

>at bus stop
>look around
>several chinks walking
>mother with a crying half-cast
>teenage girl with severe cameltoe walking around like a cat in heat
>maori kids saying shit to strangers going by
>bus finally arrives
>maori kids start blasting music out of bluetooth speaker

fug

>>139706036
>whitey's fault
fathom me that
>>139706078
they even have a migration centre dedicated to those kinda migrants in Hamilton. only aware of it bcos my mother is in public health and they fund the shit outta the migrant centres

>>139706195
I didn't say it was whiteys fault. In fact I said that European colonisation was the best thing for the Maori. The problem is that obviously for some reason Maori are worse off and in my personal opinion it's the responsibility of the government to address and attempt to fix these issues.

>>139701682
Three viewer questions two from maori about maori issues one from an old foreigner wanting weed. Really?

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>>139701682
I'm torn /pol/.
I like Labour's recent policies like taxing petrol and the free year of tertiary education but at the same time I really like National's stance on the economy being first. Labour's tertiary plan feels like a bribe but it would help me personally (18), National would help the country. I like both leaders but I admire English slightly more because of how he always appears confidently stoic and is knowledgeable in what he does.

>Liabour Leading

looks like its back to communism for us lads.. Time to work extra hours so we can pay for Fafeleila's 9 kids

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NZ First + Labor is the way to go

>>139706404
Ask yourself if you feel the country has been improving over the course of the last national government. If you're not convinced that it has then vote labour.
I understand where you're coming from, I just turned 18 and I like policies from most of the parties.

>>139706358
Wheres the line? How about personal responsibility? You write like an inordinate amount of resource isnt being given to them only on top of everything else their entitled to as citizens.

Fucking hell, Bill makes old mate Key look like David Letterman.

He was dumb using his closing statment to sell policy, He needed to sell himself.

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>>139706418
If labour wins we can go on the dole and get paid to shitpost.

>>139706404
>>139706509
Don't fall for the STEM meme if you intend to continue living in New Zealand.
>t. fell for the STEM meme

>>139706358
>colonisation bst thing for maori
how is that not counter-intuitive to u?
maori are on welfare disproportionately, they receive the most community funding, they're guaranteed seats in parliament, they're given special land privileges, huge impetus on education system to get them into schooland they do so by handing out scholars solely for them. at the same time they commit the most crime, they abuse alchol and narcotics disproportionately, they have kids at younger ages.
no one is forcing them to do all these dumb things, but people are out in force trying to get them to do otherwise.

>>139706404
Vote Winnie like a good retard.

>>139706509
>I just turned 18 and I like policies from most of the parties.

Go figure.

I don't think it's the job of the rest of New Zealand to subsidize Maori.

>>139703793
Not true, she worked in a fish and chip shop and was president of the socialist youths club.

>>139706509
nice logical fallacy pleb
you're still getting shot whether it's your hand or foot.
vote winnie

>>139706546
I honestly don't know. I can't even say if there is a solution. I just know that there's definitely a problem. The problem with personal responsibility is that there's no policy to increase that. Personally, I think the solution lies in reducing maori crime, which would include rehabilitative sentences, increased support for victims of domestic violence and support for those with alcohol addiction.

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Jacinda is coming to my high school to bribe voters by shilling her tertiary plan. I don't oppose the plan but I feel like she'll be misleading young voters who don't know consequences.
Anything I should ask her? What she plans on relying on to fund it?

>>139706404
me btw

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>>139706047
>UoA
That's the University of Asians right?

Bill English easily won this debate, there's no contest.

>>139702983
>she's a woman
>she's young (i.e. relatable)
>Bill English has no charisma
>Bill English is a literal country bumpkin (12 siblings, from the middle of bumfuck nowhere, talks like an idiot)

>>139704087
It's been a while since we had a lab government so people have forgotten.
It's their only trick, tax and spend and bloat the public sector.
Free uni leftist indoctrinations for all except it's not actually free, we all pay

>>139706912
Agreed, Jacinda started putting too much emotion into her arguments while Bill just remained calm and used facts to weaken any opposing claim, his occasional smirks were nice to see too.

>>139701682
You already have gay marriage, who cares.

>>139704168
>he thinks jemaine is maori
wew lad

>>139704316
It will be much greater than 10% friendo

Anyone got the video of the debate?
I can't seem to find it

>>139706889
>jacinda is coming to my high school

IT'S TIME TO IMMORTALISE YOURSELF ANON. MAKE A MEME OUT OF JACINDA AND DESTROY HER CHANCES OF WINNING.

>>139706905
uve hit the chink on the head.
luckily they stick to their own shit. hardly any in politics classes, they dnt go to debates, they hang out with their own (mostly).
still a sight for sore eyes tho

>>139706640
They do those things because they are just ethnically prone to violence, have a lower IQ and make bad decisions. It's not some conspiracy cooked up by da white man. They just suck as a racial group

>>139706883
All of your ideas are already happening. All that i know is that if bad behaviour is continually excused, colonisation is the permanent scapegoat and the concept that someone else will always pick up the tab then why would anything change.

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>>139707143
HOW DO I SHUT IT DOWN?

>>139706889
When she pauses mid speech, yell PEPE

>>139707210
without a doubt.

>>139706404
>free year of tertiary education
Why is this even being talked about? NZ offers a fucking interest free student loan to everyone and their dog and a degree in NZ costs like 15 to 20k MAX unless you are doing medicine.

Why do people complain about this? Young people shriek about how they're going to be "in debt for the rest of their life" like nigger if you can't pay off a 15 thousand dollar interest free loan you fucking deserve to be a debt serf because you're fucking retarded.

>>139706905
It's actually majority Asian as of 2016 -- 40%+, whites are around 38%

>>139707255
Just start yelling incoherent shit at her until phones get taken out. Then you start screaming accusations that will go on the news and make her look bad. Become the jew.

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>>139706404
there's no point in voting for free education when the jobs are going overseas. most local students will not be prepared to move to China where all the research centres are emerging and where they will be instantly underprivileged and find it hard to compete with the locals. you will be doing New Zealand born Chinese a favour though, since they can go back with the free knowledge and make things happen over there.

This is also why National can't do a thing to fix the economy. Until they put the country first, the brain drain and industry drain will continue to happen.

It makes more sense to vote for Winnie. Without nationalism you'll simply allow the globalists to keep the global transfer of wealth going without pause.

>>139706889
Ask her if she's going to address the growing gender gap in university student numbers

>>139707281
Free year of marxist indoctrination is the aim.

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>>139707359
my man

>>139707243
I understand where you're coming from, and at the end of the day, it doesn't affect me that much. I just think that we can either try and do something about it with no certain improvement or we can do nothing and let the problem persist.

No contest.

One leader had proper answers, even to the tough questions.

The other just used bumper sticker slogans and used emotional arguments without substance.

Jacinda comments about Trump leave me cold. If she got over the line she would make our country the next Canada tier sjw haven.

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Post your face when the (((National))) kikes are kicked out

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>>139701682
Why do you have no right wing partys? How much of your media attention is spent bashing trump?

>>139706889
Ask her about the gender pay gap between 22-30 year olds where woman earn more than men on average

>>139707369
Every time a politician has visited someone has asked a question on wage gap/feminism/gender employment and it gets annoying to the point where even the politician just tends to disregard it.

>>139707476
Yeah vote in socoal marxists! That'll teach those right wing kikes!

>>139706889
She's really shit with money vs Businessman English
Just ask her financial questions, do some real research to make an in depth question and watch her spout some BS political jargon without answering it
Maybe something EQC related or how she expects average kiwis to lower fuel emissions with her higher tax rate and fuel tax, isn't that counter productive to the environment?

>>139707539
I asked John Key an indepth question last year and he gave me a generic response to the level of a primary school student. Any questions that are above what they expect get borderline unique answers.

>>139707482
>How much of your media attention is spent bashing trump?
I think they usually try for 1 story a night. Tonight was about Trump saying something like "speaking is not the solution to North Korea".

>>139707476
Suddenly we all have to pay for water and have additional regional fuel taxes aswell as extra income tax
Price of fresh produce will go way up, all that water to grow them and logistics costs
Enjoy your $10 Broccoli

>>139707607
What was the question and answer?

>>139707539
>how she expects average kiwis to lower fuel emissions with her higher tax rate and fuel tax, isn't that counter productive to the environment?
higher fuel tax = less use of fuel = less fuel burnt = less emissions
Am I misunderstanding your argument here because the answer is pretty obvious if you disregard the fact that "less use of fuel" won't happen because car use is only increasing.

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>>139701682
I enjoy economics and I might be studying some politic related courses at uni (with an actual fresh out of uni job conjoined once I think of one) and I was wondering what the ideal government would be to make most NZ'ers happy together, I know it's hard to accomodate everyone's interests but someone with insight can try in a new world.
Should I join a youth division of whatever party I vote for?

>>139707723
It was something about housing and it involved stuff like the idea of LTV ratios but I added some statistics too. He just said they were building more houses to meet demand and that was that.

>>139707466
Or we can say heres the rules live with em or pay the price. And it does affect you. As you get older and see your money being thrown in a hole with no end while your country dissolves around you your patience will wear thin.

>>139704164
Classic post. Underrated. Pretty good summary.

>>139704737
Bringing the bantz! I like it.

OH SHIT BOYS
https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/watch-labour-rockets-ahead-national-in-stunning-colmar-brunton-poll-result

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>>139707709
I'd rather pay $10 for broccoli than share my country with you Chow Lim

>>139708000
He's all over them even on the Jono and Ben show whenever they mention politics. Nice trips btw.

Who here hates that libcucks are pushing free tertiary education?
Anglosphere has a way better tertiary education system than the free yurocuck system.
I've just turned 18 and am going to univeristy next year and come from a very poor home and a very poor school.
I am perfectly fine with paying back my studies once I get a job after uni, unlike these middleclass libcuck dumb cunts who want to freeload of the government like a parasite

>>139707804
Almost everything she's proposing lowers personal wealth growth which will cement the lower end of citizens into their current circumstance aka the car they own. How are they going to afford something like a hybrid? They still have to use their vehicles and with lower wealth people will go for even cheaper cars that have higher emissions surely...

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>>139707965
Oh man I can't wait till the National Indian Chinese party gets BTFO

>>139707910
That approach has been tried and it doesn't work. The states are like that and crime, especially violent crime is incredibly high. I believe that most of the crime in NZ is drug and alcohol related. So we should look at countries that have effectively used policy to reduce drug and alcohol related crime, and if there aren't any then we need to find a new solution.

>>139708023
lol wrong way to do it
The growers will try and supplement their losses by paying even less to employees
Chow Lim's will be the only people willing to work for such shitty wages

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Lots of tweets saying the consensus is Jacinda won.

>>139708334
>Tweets

There's your problem

>>139708334
What's the deal with these Colmar Brunton polls anyway?
I've never met a person who voted in a political poll. Who are they asking?

>>139708273
>we need to find a new solution.
A final solution, some might say.

NZ operates on the following cycle. The Nats knuckle down and save money and with things going well the country gets bored of stability and votes in a meme PM from Labour who destroys the economy.

Sir Keith Holyoake in the 70s. Sir Rob Muldoon in the 80s. Sir Jim Bolger and Jenny Shipley in the 90s. Let's hope we don't destroy Sir John Keys legacy.

>139708000
Ugh. That guy is an A grade fucktard.

I'm hoping and praying the greens fall under the 5% mark. Them being out of parliament would be the best thing ever. Fantastic legacy for metiria.

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>>139708405
Come to think of it you're right, also I feel like there's a push for any new emerging voice to vote on media polls more.

>>139708334
I am truly baffled how people can walk away from that debate and think Jacinda won.

>>139708114
Because it sounds nice to people who have no clue about anything. Course costs are around 8k a year, which is fucking nothing . The vast majority of people in tertiary education are going to be bleeding out of their ass in repayments from living cost loans that can't even cover living costs.
Meanwhile half of south Auckland is in perpetual unemployment, being given free money courtesy of the taxpayer without trying to get a job or otherwise advance themselves whatsoever.

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What are they even talking about?
This is the latest poll on the Colmar Brunton website...

>>139708691
A new one came out tonight putting Labour at 44% and National at 41%.

>>139708100
Oh thanks mate

>>139708752
Not even on their website?

>>139708796
Apparently not. It's all over ONE news, though, who are in partnership with the pollsters.

>>139708114
You forgot to mention that too many graduates aren't getting employed and that many who do get employed enter fields totally different from their major.

Not to mention that most majors are pointless to begin with.

>>139701682
no one vs who?

>>139706443
>NZF + Labour
Wrong way around bub

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Could this happen?
Would Nats stay in power because of Winnie?

>>139709069
thtd be labour and nzf most likely

NZ is doing well under National, to vote against stability and success on the premise of 'change' (which is all Labor can offer without any fact or detail to back their policies) would be stupid. Our current leader has a substantial advantage in the knowledge of our country as he has successfully led our country into surplus as our financial minister.

>>139709069
nzf seems like they're leaning more and more towards labour

>>139708597
Its just people being partisan. Most national voters couldn't give a shit about putting their opinions across on twitter of fb. Social media is a leftist hugbox. All that online support for Metiria showed just how out of touch that medium is with her party crashing to 5%.
Think of the US election last year. Every debate was apparently won hands down by Hillary and she had massive online support. Fat lot of good that did.

I'm voting for jacinderalla

she's gonna win

Let's do this

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>>139709184
I wonder who could be behind this post

>>139708597
Seriously? She fucking smoked Bill. He stammered his way through the whole thing while she slammed him on GST, housing, and muh children sleeping in cars.

He couldn't even bring himself to look at her.

The only people who think Bill won the debate are National supporters.

>>139709310
mmm, I also don't beleive these polls
You have to login to One News to take the poll
Not one person at my work out of 100 or so will vote Labour and not one of them would log on to fill in a poll when they can just cast a ballot on the day

>>139701682
>Labour overtakes national in both preferred prime minister and party vote
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA NZ YES

>>139704162
>nz first are mild civic nat centrists
Hitler was a centrist, and Winnie only pretends to be a civnat, when pressed on his favorable views of white people he always clams up.

>>139706889
Ask her about the capital gains tax. If sheis taxing gains i assume she will be allowing capital loss deductions. If that is the case then is it wise to install the tax when prices are at record highs and large future capital loses are a real possibility?

Installing the tax towards the top of the cycle limits the tax's potential earnings and maximise the amountof loses the government needs to subsidise.

t. Accountant

>>139703843

Thanks bro.

>>139709203
Yeah that's my concern. Was gonna vote based Winnie. But now seriously considering two ticks Nats. I can't risk voting for a guy who may put Taxinda in power.

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>tfw no Maori gf

>>139709587
They're scum, don't believe the hype.

>>139709576
Of course they'll go for Labour. Just embrace the imminent Labour +NZF government.

>>139709576
Join the club.

I'm a paid up NZF member and have been a supporter for as long as I've been voting. But Winston seems to have lost the plot this election, and is setting up to support Labour.

Going to vote 2 ticks blue now just because I don't want to get my poo pushed in by Jacinda's crazy new tax regime.

http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2017/08/al-jazeera-launches-investigation-into-new-zealand-s-polluted-waterways.html

How are we going to fix our disgusting waterways?
National will continue allowing our waterways to be the worst in the developed world, but labour would lead the nation to an economic collapse if they got in
Why can't there be a party that is rightwing on everything except environmental issues?

>>139709788
The problem is national is loving the torrent of immigrants we're putting up with

>>139709788
Just embrace it man. They've ruled out extending income tax. What taxes are you afraid of? Capital gains? Water?

These things are good for NZ.

>>139709587
sup kuzz
>Asks passerby for a dollar
up to bro?
>Makes a cigarette from old cigarettes
I'm jus goin down 2 get me sum beers
>Takes a bite out of a strangers pie
gona get mad pissed 2nite
>claims a section of land
u shuld cum
>takes 10x max quota of shellfish
got ne munnie for beers?

>>139709737
Quick rundown?

>>139710001
see above

>>139709913
>Al Jazeera
>TV3

Really makes me think

>>139709576
And that is exactly what happened in 96. I just wish all the Winnie shills would remember that.
Peters literally campaigned on removing the (then) National government and went into coalition with them anyway.
>t. former NZF voter

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>>139709587
I was at a dairy with a friend today and a group of young high schoolers (boys and girls) kept asking "sup g" when we walked past so on return we just started speaking obnoxiously loud German to throw them off.

>>139709788
Yeah I think there's a few NZF voters concerned about this.
Both the big parties have their flaws but Labour scare me. They will push pro faggot, refugees, maori grievance policies. Remember the last Labour government under aunty Helen: prostitution reform bill pushed by faggot and transexual MPs, refugees brought in from all over the 3rd world including that Tampa boat. One of those refugees went on to hijack an Air NZ plane after stabbing both pilots ffs. And then the whole foreshore and seabed bullshit. I actually unironically voted Labour back in the day and way upset when Helen lost to Key. Will never make that mistake again.

>>139709925
How is more tax good for the country? We already pay a shitload of it.

I'm not even a homeowner and I think CGT is a load of crap (although I must admit it would be hilarious of the government implement CGT, property values crash, and then everyone claims massive losses to offset their tax liabilities).

All I want is an anti-immigration party that is also anti-tax and spend.

>>139709587
never found a single maori/poly woman attractive

100% certain that ever will for the rest of my life

Polls are often fake. Remember trump and hillarys polls.

NZF has higher support than 10%. Moving auckland port to northland is a good idea.

NZF is the only party that supports firearm ownership for law abiding citizens. Public firearm ownership is the only thing that makes us different from mexico, with the amount of gangs and meth going around at the moment. There are gang related shootings very regular in my district now. This used to happen every 3 or 5 years, now is

Are criminal drug dealers going to hand over their guns when Jacinda bans public ownership of semi autos?

>>139709913

It's simple. Less intensive dairy farming. No palm kernel. Only local grown supplement like hay or silage, this will reduce nitrogen leaching. Anything else heavy handed will be an economic impairment.

>>139710093
t. government shill
We aren't allowed to swim in most of our waterways you twat
What other developed country has such terrible waterways??!
Protip: none

>>139710150
Yup that's me too.

I remember my parents being really pissed when they voted NZF back in 2005 (I think it was) and then he sold out to Labour.

Economics aside, all Labour will do is:

* Flood the country with refugees (I mean at least the current crop of immigrants do menial, shitty jobs. We all know that refugees refuse to work and never contribute to society).

* Implement all manner of hyper-PC, "white man hating" policies in all areas of society, especially in public service.

National have done a lot of things wrong. They really aren't a conservative party at all - they are the party of welfare for big business ... but at least they have a slightly better grip on reality than Labour.

I'd vote ACT but they are meaningless and also obsessed with not speaking out against immigration.

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>>139710150
Note the
>Smash the Facists
Banner behind her with the Anarchist logo
It's like voting for Elizabeth Warren

>>139710155
I would be very happy if GST tax was slashed and income/capital gains taxes were increased to combat our sky-rocketing inequality.

And no, we do not pay a lot of tax.

>>139710293
This. I'd rather fuck a sheep than a maori chick. They do nothing for me. Plus they've all been broken in by their dad or uncles which has left them turning to drink and drugs, literally insane and violent.

>>139710329
>muh rivers

Fuck off Reddit

>>139710319
We should go back to sheep farming
Sheep are exponentially more environmentally friendly than dairy farming
Most milk we produce is exported anyway
We only need enough cows to give kiwis milk
Our exports should be wool and sheep meat like in the olden days

>>139710413
Muh inequality

Don't worry about NZF labor coalition.

Winnie would be PM and be running the show.

He once said about labors capital gains tax on houses; "would there also be a paycheck if they make a loss?"

He would not put up with their commie socialism. We would have nationalistic socialism. No matter who winston works with, we will have a nationalistic government and cannot lose.

>>139710389
But... Convenient Regional Rail Services!

>>139710463
I want to be able to swim in rivers like Americans, Brits, Australians, Europeans, etc can
Why do our rivers have to be Asia tier just so fonterra can sell milk to chinks

>>139709576
But National just wants to give all our water to the Chinese and open our borders to every mother fucker in the world.

At least Labour admits there's a housing problem and wants to make the Chinese pay for the water.

>>139704635
Nice dodge there, surely you will rise again

>>139710531
>He thinks they do this

Maximum kek

A few dirty rivers are a small price to pay for industrialisation.

>>139710319
As far as the popular vote is concerned, the Trump-Hillary polls were actually quite accurate. The predicted that Hillary would win the popular vote by about 3%, she won it by 2%.

>>139710492
See: France 1789

Taxes are slightly too high. This is a mild impairment on industry.

The real killer is free trade with china. They flood us with slave goods we cannot compete with, destroying our manufacturing industry, the real source of wealth and jobs.

>>139710468

We need to increase trade with the commonwealth to do this. Turning away in the last few decades was a bad idea. Muslim countries make up 7% of our market, but we still employ these halal ragheads? Why not send it all to britain?

>>139710585
Doesn't matter if they do or don't, the fact is they can choose to swim in rivers if they want to, because they haven't polluted the fuck out of them like we have

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>>139710528
Who is even going to use that?
It's like the way they've fucked the inner CHCH for cars completely with all these stupid cycle barriers.
We live on the plains in a sprawling city, not to mention all the sattelite towns are swelling non-stop especially after the quakes.
Literally WHO is going to ride a bicycle to the city when it takes an hour + effort to get there and you can't carry anything or get groceries on the way home

>caring about this shithole
NZ is lost along with the anglosphere. fuck this degenerate shithole and all the normalfag cunts that live in it, particularly the useless roastie sluts and professional baby maker doll bludging scum.

>>139710495
Even if he's in a high position in a coalition with greens and labour its likely to fall apart anyway. Who needs the instability. And consider what if he dies? NZF. He IS NZF. If he's out of the picture it goes back to labour and greens.

>>139710389
>>139710338

I'll never take Labour seriously again after 3 leaders back David Cunliffe apologised for 'being a man.' He was forced into saying that by women in his party and journalists. What a joke. That party is a only interested in emotions, and its chicks who are driving it.

Women can't into politics. For them its only muh feels

>>139710747
>Who is even going to use that?
Auckland, Hamilton (me), Tauranga (also me), and Rotorua, connecting to the Wellington service idfk.

That's a massive fucking selling point.

Switching a vote from NZF to National is foolish

Labour will win, and you will need Winston in government with the strongest support possible to moderate the LAB/Green leftist factions

>>139710643
It's not NZ's fault that pommies dropped NZ on its head in order to join the EU market
Fuck UK, we can forget about those traitors to the Anglosphere

>>139710588

They predicted hillary would win in landslide.

She had millions of illegal votes. Mexicans bussed to 10 polling booths across town, computer fraud, and she still lost.

They are not accurate.

I think they are milking votes off winnie to add to the Jacinda effect narrative. This is not true, she is airy fairy lipstick (person) on a pig (policy). No new ideas just more tax and spend. She just wants to increase the size of the state bureaucracy.

>>139707482
We have act and conservative, act is classic liberal, similar to libertarian, and conservative is pretty obvious. Act gets fuck all votes now which is pretty sad, tempted to party vote act, electorate vote national this election honestly.

>>139710747
We should privatize roads so lazy people walk or bike to places and shops down the street instead of clogging up traffic
Who would pay for using a road to go somewhere nearby?

>>139710873
This is a step towards NatSoc, a step in the right direction.

>>139710903

Act masquerades as classical liberal. They are complete sellouts and David Semours constituents are entirely chinese.

They do nothing, then provide the attack dog distraction for their masters, national party.

>>139710588
I wish NZ had an electoral vote system like America
That would make it so regions like the deep south get a say in the future of our nation

>>139710970
one of my old flatmates would drive like 4 houses down to go to the dairy, lazy cunt.

Fuck these people.

>>139710884
>She had millions of illegal votes
How do people still actually believe this meme?

>>139710747
> Christchurch cycle ways
Faaaark. I'm triggered.

I'm a chch anon. The central city has been fucking destroyed by a quake and then strangled by these stupid fucking cycle lanes that no cunt uses.
Yesterday driving down St Asaph st was behind a cycling maggot on a vehicle lane, jesus fuck.

I often walk on them just to see how far i can go without having to get off for a bike. Only twice I've met a bike.

>>139710873
They'll wave a few baubles in his face and he won't give a fuck what they do, you mong

We need to rip up free trade with china. We need to produce more of our own oil and gas, we already do half at Marsden point.

We need a nuclear power plant so we can have free power for households. There is only >5mil NZers so this is possible.

>>139711038

I agree, I would like to see a NZF labor coalition more than a NZF national coalition.

>>139711164
california is 20% illegal

>>139711164

Because of project veritas where top players in the DNC admit what they are doing and how they are doing it.

>>139710854
Ahk that's a bit different to what I was thinking
They've been talking about putting passenger rail lines around Canterbury for a while, thankfully they're just doing some major upgrades to road routes
Connecting large cities like that might work well, especially for freight attached to the train

>>139710970
How about we stop charging motorcyclists a ridiculous amount and actually push their use?
"If 10% of the single occupant cars in Auckland were bikes, there would be 0 traffic jams" - My ACC Ride Forever Instructor

>>139711050

>sell us to the chinese
National

>help national sell us to the chinese
Act

Fuck these assholes

>thinks borders are good
NZ first

based winnie

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>>139710884
bless his soul

>>139711262

Thanks buddy great news, I assure you this is not a slide thread.

Tell us when you get Skippy in handcuffs.

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>>139701682
So New Zealand gets to choose between cuck faggot bankster jew and feminazi horse face postmodern skank jew. Just bring back Sauron middle earth must burn.

>>139711164
You haven't been paying attention mate. Colorado and California under investigation atm. Lots of strange occurrences in numbers plus illegals being allowed to vote without fucking ID.

>>139711236
The regions of NZ that extract oil and gas are the poorest in NZ, despite the fact that our government subsidizes oil and gas extraction big league
We cannot compete fossil fuelwise with middleeastern countries that only stick a drill in the sand to easily get oil

>>139711177
lol
My biggest hate is all those 2 laned streets that used to have turning lanes at the intersection.
They removed the turning lane for a bike lane, then installed bike lights allowing cyclists to go and a red turning light... meanwhile the guy at the front waiting to turn has 100 angry motorists behind him being held up for... NOT EVEN A CYCLIST THERE omg

>>139711164
> we hate voter ID laws 'cuz they're racist an shit
DNC

>we think people should be able to prove they are allowed to vote before they do so.
Republicans


Who is bussing around randoms who shouldn't vote?

>>139711335
Will we ever get to vote for him?
Or will he just prefer sideline critic?

>>139711552
Party vote TOP
>gas the cats

>>139711335

TOP is the minority party I want to see. He has better judgment and ideas than Bill the farmer.

Let me tell you about farmers. They are all stingey cunts.

Nathan guy was advertising for dairy farm manager full/time tit puller with two odd subordinates. My mate gives him a call. Job paid 45k, no benefits. Standard would be 60k, a house, a beast every few months, a ute and petrol, etc.

Nearly all farmers are stingey cunts who don't want to see you get ahead. They are trying to cling to power and position and keep everyone else below them.

Even if this means lower result for all, they will make this societal sacrifice to stay in the landowning elite class.

My farming family has 2.5 people doing 4 peoples work. The farm infrastructure is crumbling, they are going further into debt, they have to pay for firewood instead of cutting their own woodland the ancestors planted. They just don't want to see anyone else get ahead. No work for the unemployed cousin to do, not even firewood or fences.

I'd say Nathan Guy and Bill English are just stingey farmers like the rest of them.

>>139711481
How many times have I been sitting patiently on St Asaph to turn left into Colombo, Durham or Manchester. And never get a green arrow!!!!
I just look over my shoulder and run the red now. Also refuse to travel 30, I do 50 when going through town. Fuck those Lycra wearing vegan faggots in the council.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11914978

Jacinda Ardern (((wins))) 3-1 by NZHerald's judges.

>>139711050
I mean he wants us to stop shelling out for dole bludgers to keep having kids, so that's an instant vote from me. Act is also the only party that will reduce taxes and government spending. I guess Act does only appeal if you have money though.

Half of the black cunts in prison are there for non violent weed offenses. They are taking up valuable space that could be occupied with crackheads.

>>139711476

Expand marsden point and purchase crude instead of refined products.

>>139711963
>Hillary Clinton (((wins))) 3-1 by CNN's judges.

>>139711963
>Herald

kek. Fuck that cucked piece of shill shit.

>>139711870
If they don't change things it will fail pretty badly
Look at Iconic that reopened in town and had to liquidate
No businesses will settle, noone wants to drive there and even less people want to cycle there.
How am I going to cycle to town to do shopping when I have to carry whatever I purchased home on a bicycle?

>>139711992

The ideas do appeal to me, if they would stick to them. National did lower taxes and are working to balance their own (federal?) debt.

But Municipal councils are spending and taxing at an absurd rate. They have the out of control debt levels.

Also ACT has encouraged the immigrant boom which has wrekt house prices. How does immigration fit in with austrian economics? I haven't read enough.

Freedom of immigration has put strain on our infrastructure, raised housing cost (demand reduces quality also), and driven down wages (more people to do the same jobs).

In a high tax environment with limited job market like now, immigrants drive down wages. They do 3 months picking apples like slave, work to slave standard, long hours short breaks, and send it all back to the islands. Then live like kangs for rest of year in nuku alofa, then repeat.

Local NZers cannot compete with a revolving hoard of boonga slaves.

>>139702983
We need to fucking get the meme machines going to help Bill. Why don't we start threads asking for the help of burgers, etc?

>>139712211
> iconic
I live in the CBD. Liked going to that place.

Thins is plenty will say the central city is buzzing again. And now ANZ and BNZ headquarters are open if you're on Cashel St at midday there is a good vibe. But come back at 7pm. Its fucking dead, and feels unsafe. Only people you see are useless maori cunts shitting up the footpath pretending to be homeless.

>>139712432

Use your energy to help winston.

We have had how many years of National majority in parliament.

I wouldn't say the current state of our country is acceptable. We can do a lot better if we stand up for our own interests instead of capitulating to foreigners.

>>139712388
I'm not really sure, immigration doesn't really bother me, as I work in an area with there is a skills shortage anyway. House prices are a bit iffy but I feel like that's partly the fault of wasteful councils. To get resource consent for a carport, it cost fucking 6 grand, more than the damn carport. Councils are huge leeches that waste ridiculous amounts of money and any member of them should be gassed.

What's strange is that in the past, interest rates have risen, driving down house prices, but for whatever reason that hasn't happened this time. Kinda just waiting for the inevitable though, and all the monkey investors with huge loans are gonna get dicked and my family can sweep in and pick up a bunch of cheap deals.

I feel like we should be encouraging working taxpayers to have more kids instead of just relying on huge immigration to get our numbers up though, maybe tax reductions for working parents might help, idk.

>>139712753
Winston has a high chance of siding with Labour. Anything is better than leftist marxist bullshit.

I definitely want to see a winnie + labour co, and definitely not a winnie + national. National is killing our country. Winnie is such a turncoat though so its such a risky vote.
Anyone who thinks bill won that debate is mental, he seems like a great guy, but he looked like a bumbling idiot half the time, that poll definitely tilted him. At least mike grilled him a little bit though.

The current meth epidemic calls into question the sovereignty and strength of New Zealand as a nation state.

The current Government and Commissioner of Police (it's a revolving door of academic limp-wristed, politically correct idiots), are not addressing the issue. God speed Paula Bennett for listening to the people of NZ and telling the NZPD to get fucked when they tried to ram more legislation down the throat of parliament using scare tactics and intimidation.

If we cannot police our borders and prosecute our meth dealers, something is going wrong. Something is even worse when they come after law abiding gun owners. What did chairman Mao say about political power again?

>>139712850

That's right, I feel like my future has been given to a foreigner. Instead of myself having a job and kids the opportunity was given to pajeet for a marginal temporary increase in GDP.

Council red tape is a huge cost to doing business.

"Resource consent"; So I need the councils permission to use my own resources purchased with my own labor. And I must pay them a huge fee for their permission, and donate to their 'slush investment pool fund'. This is a very communist idea. I need to do a few paragraphs on what I think about local councils.

>>139707058
He is though. He's not keeping his role in the Maori dub of Moana for nothing.

>>139707054
Bill English personally voted against it, get him the fuck out.

>>139711769
Farmers and horticulturalists have no problem selling out kiwis for cheap foreign labour. Never thought id see the day.

>>139713411

>d speed Paula Bennett for listening to the people of NZ and telling the NZPD to get fucked when they tried to ram more legislation down the throat of parliament using scare tactics and intimidation.

what was the legislation?

Local councils are charging huge tax, and going further into debt.

Northland was insolvent years ago, now managed by an unelected caretaker bureaucracy.

What happens if interest rates rise for council borrowing. They get a lot of funding from europe, which we all know is being flooded with 13 year old syrian children who have sub saharan features. If europe and its financing crumbles, who will keep paying for municipal council spending. The chinese?

If 4th reich germany can take over greece and other EU nations through debt loan sharking, who owns New Zealand debt and will they stand over our government for law-writing ability to collect the debt?

>>139713761

Police wanted to ban some more guns extra-judicially, then got BTFO when hundreds of Firearm Licence holders called the office of the Right Honorable Paula Bennett representative of Waitakere, minister of police. Hundreds of constituents told her they didn't like what the police were doing, so she made them back off.

If you call up your local representative with a good enough idea, they will listen. Be part of the brain and nervous system of our nation and call your local representative.

You can't do this in most places around the world.

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BUUUUUUUUMP Bro

>>139706036
>White people coming to NZ was the best thing for the Maori people. But statistically life is worse for Maori than for White people.
So what you are saying is that white people made life better for Maori. But fuck white people because they haven't given up ALL the gibs? You sound like a massive cunt.

>>139713984

Oh right I remember now. Serves the cunts right, the criminals will get them one way or another while the average gun owner gets fucked over. Good job

>>139709402
>He couldn't even bring himself to look at her.
I find that difficult too, tbf

>>139714262
Come now lad, she's no uglier than the average Kiwi woman.

Horowhenua district council are a bit dodgy.

First there is the pensioner housing sale. Council housing is being sold under market rate to a group with connections to a counciller. They have made every effort to exclude the public and keep it secret until its a done deal.

This is compounded by a council CEO who was intercepting, filtering, and monitoring the correspondence of elected councilors. He was abusing this obviously illegal power to carry out his (old boys club) agenda. Using every trick under the sun to exclude the elected mayor from any decision making process.

I suggest everyone read up on HDC. This is the template that will be used when other councils face financial strife in the not too distant future. They will keep information quiet, all call in sick to cancel a council meeting when things are hot under collar, and generally sell us out to increase the size of council bureaucracy so they dominate the local jobscape.

Remember totalitarian lords extracting all the resources of their peasant working class in middle ages Europe?

>>139714024

No spurdo, he means maori were always disadvantaged by their own nature and love of TAB beer and video poker.

Police are pussyfooting around and are too scared a lot of the time to do anything about the meth tsunami.

Which is saying something because the meth dealers are too scared to draw attention to themselves and only pick on easy targets.

Maybe if police carried a sidearm and trained with it they wouldn't get beat up so much?

Why do National keep attacking NZF do they not want to win? they will just piss him off and he will go with Labour.

>>139715192
NZ Police are mostly fuck wits.

>>139715276
Nats are attacking NZF because they tend to lose votes to them. I'm a case in point. Attack, discredit NZF and get it in peoples heads that they go with Labour is usually enough to scare people into staying with the Nats.

Thing is, Winnie always keeps his cards close to his chest and pours shit on every other party in the lead up to the elections. And he can afford to because for the last two decades he's pretty much decided who will be prime minister every time.

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Is there any chance that Winston Peters could form government and become PM?

>>139703050

lol. It's funny cause it's true.

>>139715347

Joe plod on the ground is fine.

Western universities have been infiltrated by chinese since the 1980s. They gradually have become more and more socalist, now we all know how all conservative white men are walking hate speech potential Hitlers. Universitys don't even allow conservative discussion, pro-life groups, or european culture clubs. This is because of the chinese influence.

NZ police leadership have been brainwashed by these socialist ideas not to trust the public they are hired to protect. Many are from the UK. UK banned lots of guns pre-WW2 because they feared a bolshevik revolution on the British Isles. Then the nanny state went into overdrive and they banned every other gun in the mid 90's as a knee-jerk reaction to some nutcase shooting a bunch of people. Now you need a 25+ ID to purchase plastic spoons over there, while knife crime is through the roof and muslims are running around chucking acid at everyone.

These are the last police you want protecting you. They fled britain after leaving it in a worse state than they found it.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-14/asio-warned-anu-of-china-communist-donor-links/8616014

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/2264745-former-chinese-diplomat-on-chinas-infiltration-of-australia/

>>139710588
1% is a fucking huge margin when your talking about a nation as big as america

>>139716328

>more than 1% is a fucking huge margin when your talking about a nation as big as america

Alex Jones reckons 12-18% of hillarys vote was mexican bus load day-workers.

>>139715748
There has been a suggestion of this. That he would give his parties support to Taxinda but only on the proviso that she becomes deputy PM to him. It is a real possibility, but one of the many countless scenarios this election is capable of giving us.
Talk around Wellingtons political circles is he can't stand her and thinks of her as a complete novice airhead with no political depth. As such it seems unlikely he would work under her, unless she makes him foreign minister and he spends all his time overseas and leaves his party (and the NZ public) to deal with her.

>>139706905

Haven't fucking loled this hard in weeks

>>139716450

Labor-NZF could be the best next government.

National socialist in ideology, but would be definitely be lead by winnie under these circumstance.

Kiwi Tumblr teens were all over the US election, but I haven't heard a peep from any of them about this one. I wouldn't be surprised a month ago, but I thought Jacindamania would inspire at least some discussion.

>>139716821

Were they supporting trump or hillary?

>>139716821
Apparently youth enrolment is down a fair bit from last time so hoping thats a good sign.

>>139716963
Take a guess

>>139716821
NZ politics is boring because we can't directly elect a leader like America, the parties choose the leader
Plus we aren't a Republic so there is literally no patriotism here in NZ
The vast majority of kiwis are third or fourth generation at most and believe that NZ has no culture or identity
Only people who care about NZ are the descendants of those who settled in early 1800s like me, or the Maori

>>139716821
The wannabe yurocucks jumped on the virtue signaling bandwagon and were bashing Trump blindly
I know heaps of people my age who are born in NZ, but despise NZ and want to move to Europe one day

>>139718358
Im from pioneer stock. Deport everyone else.

>>139718358
>we aren't a Republic so there is literally no patriotism here in NZ
Why exactly would becoming a republic make us more patriotic?

>>139718358
I'm an immigrant. Already I'd die for this country. Can't believe how casual so many New Zealanders are when it comes to national pride. I suppose that's an Anglo throwback that you might have trouble shaking for a while yet.

>>139718468
>know heaps of people my age who are born in NZ, but despise NZ and want to move to Europe one day
What they're actually saying is they have little self worth or identity and feel they'll find it elsewhere. Which is bullshit. NZ has incredible depth of history and culture. People just chose not to see it, they prefer to cringe.

>>139718910
Eh NZ history is pretty boring honestly. I love the country and all but any Eurasian history is much more interesting.

>>139701682
Isn't your former PM a literal Jew?

>Word gets out to the media that Winston Peters has resolved a superannuation overpayment issue, which then backfires from being a scandal about Peters' overpayment, to instead being a scandal/investigation into how Peters' privacy was breached.[

Will this damage Winnie?

>>139719207
3 PMs have been Jewish. 2nd only to Israel for number of Jewish leaders.

>>139719169
Nah not buying that. Waves of immigration, settling the land. Politics. The history of this country is fascinating.
Only bad thing is the maori got here 400 years before whites. That's a fraction in time. Imagine a NZ if they left Rarotonga after Tasman and Cook arrived? Or never even set sail in the first place??? This country would be literal paradise if maori had stayed in the Cook islands.

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>nz
>white

>>139718551
We'd have to deport 3/4 of the nation at least
People of pioneer stock are a small part of NZ, and are mostly mixed with Maori
Pure white pioneer kiwis are tiny percentage

>>139718868
America is the only Republic in the Anglosphere, they are the most patriotic nation in the Anglosphere by a country mile
I believe self governance instills a sense of importance and pride in the populace
There is not a single patriotic nation in the world that isn't completely independent

>>139718910
Where are you from?
NZ is so cucked that even some immigrants are more patriotic than the pozzed inhabitants

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>>139719472
forgot to change my flag

>>139719169
Why don't you go the museum and learn about the settlers, whalers, farmers, frontiermen, etc who settled this nation before the British Empire took it over

>>139709997
This

>>139719492
Im ok with that.

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Does Winnie support cannabis legalization?

So European New Zealanders are only 70% of the population now, right?

>>139719766
I fucking wish

>>139719492
>Where are you from?
Australian. With strong Croatian heritage.

>>139719449
>>139719594
I dunno man, I'm more in to the military side of history though to be fair and we have fuck all of that. I enjoyed reading about my great great great grandfather coming to NZ however, the whole settling new land is pretty interesting not gonna lie. I agree though it'd be amazing if the island was uninhabited when we got here, would make it the best country on Earth by a mile.

>>139719492
Early 1800s pioneer stock 100% white here feels good.

>>139719766
In 2013, 74% of NZrs were of European or part-European ancestry
Since half of Maori identify as part-European in the census, only 66% of NZrs in 2013 were full European

>>139719766
Yeah but with Maoris we are 85%.

Pioneer stock here my ancestors didn't break in the land for poos and chongs to wreck the place.

>>139705265
Kiwi women are statistically the biggest slits in the world. I am not making this up a study was done and they genuinely came out on top

>>139719492
But are they patriotic because they're republican or for other reasons? I think getting rid of the monarchy would just be playing into the hands of the cucked abolitionists, it would just be more impetus for maori/islander/asian/non-white pride and identity.

>>139705344
The only reason life is harder for Maoris is because they have to grow up in Maori families.

>>139720059

Fuck off with your meme flag, foreign subversive agent you!

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>>139720059
You've found out the reason for our reputation then

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>>139703232

>Feminist stronghold new zealand

>Sexism

Top Kek , m8

worked in a fish and chip shop and was president of the socialist youths club

IS this your leader material, faggot?

Is she gonna Give you Wirtschaftswunder OR Obama's barely "Economic Recovery" with Social Decay

>>139720059
Yawn. Its fucking bullshit. A study that stuff and nzherald loved and pushed. Now /pol/ for some reason regurgitates this meme every fucking day.

Remember studies are always biased to push an agenda.

>>139720337
I believe it to be true though based on this culture and personal experiences.

Oh yeah we are getting displaced at the fastest rate of any nation in the world. As our people kill themselves and move overseas.

Look at the social programming on TV ads. Including turban Indian with thick Mumbai accent, depicting poos as regular citizens. Makes me sick.

For a small percentage there are lots of pioneers here. My family went to the Wellington riots in 1913 to kick some ass, anyone else? My great grandad beat trade Union anarchists with a stock whip and baton. We still have the baton the government gave him to beat people with.

>>139720337
No offense but you need to meet more of them.

>>139720457
>>139720608
Bullshit.
Spend time living in Denmark or the Netherlands. No comparison. Trouble with Kiwis is they're not very worldly, sure they've travelled, but have no fucking idea how the world works and see everything from their own bubble.

>>139720889
Im old take my word for it. When i was young people said the same.

Shit I've even had more sluts in the UK than NZ. Their chavs make Kiwi girls look like nuns.

>>139719492
I would become 10 times more patriotic if King Charles dissolved all parliament and assumed control of the Empire.