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I'm looking to return to church.

Which denomination is best?

I was raised Catholic & New Age. Went to a megachurch for a while that fell apart magnificently and I devolved into a leftist. Want to return good, bible believing community.

Which church would you pick?
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Try visiting your local Kingdom Hall and see if it interest you

https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/meetings/video-kingdom-hall/

Also, you get the chance of meeting a qt JW girl that is still a virgin
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>>139700211
presbyterian is god tier
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>>139700994
Don't do this op.
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>>139700211

Go to church with your parents
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Orthodox. Any is fine, as long your relationship with God is strengthening. Good luck in your journey!
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>>139700211
There's no best. What do you believe? What do you want to do in church? Read a bunch of creeds, confessions, and statements of faith, and see what aligns with what you believe.
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>>139700211
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>>139701268

This is the exact opposite of what the proper thing to do is. Look for the truth and see where the truth leads you
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>>139701258
This. Eastern Orthodox especially. It has a Catholic feel to it but no where near as cucked.
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Did you know that religion is the only area of society that has made ZERO progress in the last 2,000 years?
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>>139700211

>Be non denomination
>Go to all churches
>In the eyes of the lord you have done nothing wrong
>Prophet
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>>139701517

Imagine being dumb enough to make this post
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Go to a God loving God fearing church. Try out different churches and whichever one you really connect with go there. Good luck on your journey with Christ.
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>>139700211

this can help also

http://www.selectsmart.com/FREE/select.php?client=christiandenom
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>>139700211

Anon, you're alive.
You're already in church.
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>>139700211
Baptist

Salvation by faith alone
Ephesians 2:8-9
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Actually following what the Bible says about baptism
Need to believe.
Acts 8
36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?
37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.

Fully submerged in water.
Acts 8:38
And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.
Romans 6:4
Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
Matthew 3:16
And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
John 3:23
And John also was baptizing in Aenon near to Salim, because there was much water there: and they came, and were baptized.
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>>139702081
forgot pic
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>>139700211
southern buddhist
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>>139700211
I would stick to Lutheran churches or any eastern churches. Basically any church untouched by degeneracy. ie the (((pope)))'s church
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>>139700211
You were raised correctly before your parents became degenerate hippies. Join the Catholic church
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you have to get saved first you dont just go to church

if you dont believe and called on jesus christ it wont do anything to just show up at a church

you dont even have to go to church if u dont want once ur saved
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>>139702698

This

>30And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?

>31And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house. 32And they spake unto him the word of the Lord, and to all that were in his house. 33And he took them the same hour of the night, and washed their stripes; and was baptized, he and all his, straightway. 34And when he had brought them into his house, he set meat before them, and rejoiced, believing in God with all his house.

no actualy just go to church forget about the bible

t.papist
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>>139700211
Wotanism
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Whichever is Christ's original Church

Good luck figuring out which one
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>>139704191
no it says believe in him >>139703575

it doesnt say find the original church
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>>139700211
>Best church?

just read the book yourself... for Christ sakes.
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>>139700211
you're a country of sects and heretics. unless you find an orthodox church (the one and only true church) you might as well not bother
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>>139700994
this.

No other Religion will zealously strife to live as closely to what the word of God commands as JW.
No other faith is so coherent and free of contradictions or "divine mysteries".
Read the Gospels and Acts and compare how things were handled 1900 Years ago with how JW handle things now, you will see that its almost identical. (Minus the miracles).

Going to the Kindgdom hall does not mean that you will or have to convert, but its a good way to get a first face-to-face impression.

Otherwise there is of course the website www.jw.org available in 800 languages.
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dont why the fuck are we still talking about religion
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>>139700211
Orthodox
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>>139701258
they are cucked by the state they live in. Way too patriotic for a religion about which Jesus said "they are not part of this world".

>>139701535
>use all kind of money, real and fake
>In the eyes of the shopkeepers and authorities you have done nothing wrong
oops

>>139701517
when you reach perfection there is no need to change anything.

>>139702698
"once saved always saved" is not biblical at all. Read in both the New and Old Testament what happened to people who did not stay on the right way.

>>139704191
Peter was not pope. Jesus was making a pun when he said that misinterpreted verse. Petrus is male but the word for rock Jesus used is female. He himself was the rock "that the constructors had rejected but which became the cornerstone of the building" (translating on the fly here, sorry)

>>139704736
good idea, but do so unbiased. Do not have an opinon (lets say "Jesus was socialist") and then try to look for confirmations of this belief. You will always find them at the expense of anything that contradicts it.
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>>139702698
Saved and baptized, just want good community.
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RELIGION WAS MADE UP TO MAKE MONEY OF PEOPLE AND YOU ARE ALL FALLING FOR IT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>139702081
How about you follow the bible aswell when jesus says those who pray in public to show themselves to people are hypocrites?

Fuck american churches are such a fucking joke, try reading the bible yourself for once faggot
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>>139705026

>jesus makes multiple references to trinity
>"trinity is totally heresy guys, please use our bible with all the heretical trinity references fixed"
>jesus does not mention the "144,000"
>"guys, only the 144,000 get to be with jesus, don't worry you can still go to heaven tho"
>"also please give your money to watchtower"

yeah, nah
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>>139700211
go to one of the various smaller, reformed protestant denominations, keep an open mind, and have some discussions with church leaders about theology and christian living
you'll learn a lot more and be better equipped to make a decision than you could by asking on an anonymous chinese cartoon internet board
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>>139701740
>this can help also
>http://www.selectsmart.com/FREE/select.php?client=christiandenom
Results
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>>139705343
>>In the eyes of the shopkeepers and authorities you have done nothing wrong

But the shop them self are also fake you only do not know which one is fake or that there even is a real shop , the shopkeepers cannot prove that they are real so i give them fake money also
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Read the gospels and the book of acts, then find an Apostolic or UPCi church.
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>>139701857
Thank you.
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>>139705343
>Jesus was making a pun when he said that misinterpreted verse. Petrus is male but the word for rock Jesus used is female
Retard
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>>139702081

don't forget baptizing your household (ie, family and kids) :^)
Acts 16:33
"At that hour of the night the jailer took them and washed their wounds; then immediately he and all his household were baptized."

1 Cor 1:16
"Yes, I also baptized the household of Stephanas; beyond that I do not remember baptizing anyone else. "
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>>139705546
references like
>the father is greater than I am
>the son cannot do anything by himself
>no one knows the hour (of the end), not the son, not the angels but only the father
How can that be if they are all 3 one person?
Also nowhere is the holy spirit described as a person like Jesus or God.
Not to mention the crass contradiction to everything we know about God from the Hebrew scriptures (aka. The Old Testament)
The only thing that points to a duumvirate is the beginning of the gospel of John but only if you mistranslate it badly.

>>jesus does not mention the "144,000"
Revelation does. And Revelation was given by Jesus to John, therefore it comes from Jesus.

>don't worry you can still go to heaven tho"
No, loyal humans without the hope to rule in heaven will instead live forever in paradise here on earth, as God intended it in the first place. After all if the Government is in heaven and everyone is there too, over whom will this government rule then?

>>"also please give your money to watchtower"
Nope. Everything is donation based. There are neither taxes nor collects like in the other churches.

For everything and more see: https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/

>>139705837
ok now you have overstretched my illustration. It was about realizing that there is a true religion and everything else is the wrong religion.

>>139705977
read the original greek text, its all there. also: https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2011571?q=peter+pope&p=par (a detailed article why Peter was not the Pope and what evidence supports this)
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>>139705775

i have not even heard of

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mennonite_Brethren_Church
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>>139706116
odd since they are mostly german/dutch and live in south america.
They are related to the Amish, religiously speaking.
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>>139700211
Buddhism

Honestly it even tells you not to believe what its saying without thinking it through and reflecting deeply

If you actual seek contentment , happiness , a sense of community and peace in youre life then id highly reccomend it
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>>139701857
truth
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>>139706095
Peter is the rock, retard.
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>>139706322
read the article please, then tell me what you think of it.
Its not very long, you should be through in 5 minutes
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>>139700211
Go back to the Catholic Church or find an Eastern Orthodox one. They're the closest to tradition and should be the exact opposite of the New Age shit (unless they're not compromised locally). Any other denominations dilute the teachings and are breeding grounds for degenerate liberal "atheist but spiritual" types. Sola scriptura/ sola fide/ sola gratia is all wishful thinking. If you're serious about going back, commit to it entirely.
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>>139706400
Jesus clearly makes a wordplay to point that Peter will be the foundation of his church. The fact that there are two words for rock in Greek doesn't mean it's not Peter.

In Aramaic it's the same word by the way.
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>>139700211
r/catholicism is the place to go. Here on /pol/ too many anon's choose the religion that aligns most with their beliefs.

I say listen to what other people have to say about God and then follow the one with the one with the best evidence supporting it's claims.

>inb4 muh ''cucklic chruk'' comments
>inb4 muh ''go back to plebbit'' comments

Just visit the subreddit, it's one of the only places in reddit which are insightful.
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>>139705775
i got reformed baptist 100%
intadesting
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>>139706526
its the same word in greek too, but the article is different. Well the words too but only a little bit.

Im going to cite from the article since apparently you cannot or will not read it:

>onsider the answers to three questions: (1) Does the Bible support the claim that Peter was the first pope? (2) What does history teach about the origin of the succession of popes? (3) Do the conduct and teachings of the popes support their claim to be Peterโ€™s successor?

>Augustine, a revered Church Father, at one time held that the congregation was built on Peter. However, toward the end of his life, he changed his view of what Jesusโ€™ words meant. In a work known as Retractations, Augustine argued that it was Jesus on whom the church, that is the Christian congregation, was built, not Peter.

>True, the apostle Peter features prominently in the Gospels. Jesus singled out three of his apostlesโ€”John, James, and Peterโ€”to be present with him on a few special occasions. (Mark 5:37, 38; 9:2; 14:33) Jesus entrusted Peter with โ€œthe keys of the kingdom of the heavens,โ€ which Peter used to open up the way to the Kingdomโ€”first to the Jews and proselytes, then to the Samaritans, and finally to the Gentiles. (Matthew 16:19; Acts 2:5, 41; 8:14-17; 10:45) In accord with his outgoing personality, Peter at times served as spokesman for the apostles as a whole. (Acts 1:15; 2:14) But do these facts make Peter head of the early congregation?

>Although Peter was given great responsibility, nowhere in the Bible do we find him claiming to be the head of the congregation and, as such, making decisions for the disciples as a group. In his letter, he called himself โ€œan apostleโ€ and โ€œan older manโ€โ€”nothing more.โ€”1 Peter 1:1; 5:1.
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>>139706545
Will look into it. I did a deep dive into Catholic theology a few times. I've been turned off by a lot of clown mass cafeteria Catholics in my family.
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Catholic and Orthodox Churches have interesting theology and beautify services however they have very very little focus on scripture during their services compared to ritual hence you will have to read and study it in your own time.
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>>139706708
>But do these facts make Peter head of the early congregation?
Yes.

>nowhere in the Bible do we find him claiming to be the head of the congregation
He didn't have to, Jesus made that claim for him.
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Do you really need to ask?
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>>139706322

>I am the rock

things peter never says

>And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.

>The LORD liveth; and blessed be my rock; and exalted be the God of the rock of my salvation.

>The LORD is my rock, and my fortress, and my deliverer; my God, my strength, in whom I will trust; my buckler, and the horn of my salvation, and my high tower.

>Be thou my strong habitation, whereunto I may continually resort: thou hast given commandment to save me; for thou art my rock and my fortress.


B-but muh peter is the rock
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>>139706708
>>139706881
>When and how, then, did the concept of a papacy come about? The idea that it was acceptable for one man to seek prominence over his fellow believers began to take root while the apostles were still alive. How did the apostles view such thinking?

>The apostle Peter himself told the men who were taking the lead in the congregation not to be โ€œlording it over those who are Godโ€™s inheritanceโ€; they were to gird themselves with lowliness of mind toward one another. (1 Peter 5:1-5) The apostle Paul warned that from within the congregation, men would rise who would โ€œspeak twisted things to draw away the disciples after themselves.โ€ (Acts 20:30) Toward the end of the first century C.E., the apostle John wrote a letter in which he strongly denounced a disciple by the name of Diotrephes. Why the reprimand? One reason was that this man โ€˜liked to have the first placeโ€™ in the congregation. (3 John 9) Such counsel from the apostles acted as a restraint, thwarting for a time the ambitions of those who were seeking prominence.โ€”2 Thessalonians 2:3-8.

>Shortly after the last of the apostles died, individuals began to gain more prominence. The Cambridge History of Christianity says: โ€œProbably there was no single โ€˜monarchicalโ€™ bishop in Rome before the middle of the second century.โ€ By the third century, the bishop of Rome established himself as the highest authority, at least for parts of the church.* To add weight to the claim that the bishop of Rome has superior authority, some have compiled a list of Peterโ€™s successors.

>However, this list provides little support for the claim. Why? First, some names on the list cannot be verified. More important, the foundation of the list is flawed. How so? Even if Peter did preach in Rome, as some secular literature from the first and second centuries implies, there is no proof that he was head of the congregation there.
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>>139707175
>>139706708
>One evidence that Peter was not head of the congregation in Rome is that when the apostle Paul wrote his letter to the Romans, he included an extensive list of Christians there. Yet, he did not mention Peter at all. (Romans 16:1-23) If Peter were head of the congregation, could we imagine that Paul overlooked Peter or snubbed him?

>Note, too, that about the time that Peter wrote his first inspired letter, Paul wrote a second letter to Timothy. In that letter, Paul did not hesitate to mention Rome. Actually, Paul wrote six letters from Rome, all without any mention of Peter.

>Some 30 years after Paul wrote his letters, the apostle John wrote three letters and the book of Revelation. Nowhere in these writings did John mention that the congregation in Rome was the most prominent one, nor did he refer to a leader of the church who held the supreme office of an alleged successor of Peter. Neither the Bible nor the evidence from history supports the claim that Peter established himself as the first bishop of the congregation in Rome.

I think this shows that at least in the 1st century there was no pope and it certainly was not peter
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>>139707034
this guy is right, the catholic church is a fucking disgrace nowadays. Jezus would knock the pope out if he saw him dressed in gold garments and parading around like a clown
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>>139700211
>Best church?
I'll tell you my grandfather told me:
"I go that round church" (yeah they started building them back then)
"Round church?"
"Yeah, that's the one where the devil can't corner you"
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Non-denominational
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>>139706095
references like
>i and my father are one
>you father are in me and i in you
>he who has seen me has seen the father
How can this be if they are separate persons?
Also, the holy spirit is described as a person like god here in John 14 as someone who will abide with you and teach you
Not to mention the numerous references to "us" in the old testament, the "spirit of god" hovering over the waters, the Son of God in Psalm 2, Psalm 45, Isaiah where the redeemer is to be named "everlasting father", seems like a crass contradiction for Jesus who was definitely "NOT" the father, I know :)

>revelation was given by jesus to john
hmm, I thought it went "all scripture is inspired by god" or something like that
also seems like a pretty important detail Jesus could have mentioned when he was discussing heaven and hell

> After all if the Government is in heaven and everyone is there too, over whom will this government rule then?
maybe this government could rule over the souls in heaven who are with god, shouldn't be too hard for an all-powerful god who meant to send the saved to heaven to worship him
after all, how will they perfectly worship god without being there to experience his glory?

>donation based
k

good night swiss bro, say hi to tony moriss and geoff jackson for me

need to rest up for my blood donations tomorrow :^)
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>>139707034
More verses

peter is the rock ? whomever believeth in peter shall not be ashamed ?

Romans 9:33
>As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
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>>139707628

>The Living Stone

(Isaiah 28:14-22; 1 Corinthians 3:10-15)

>4To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious, 5Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.

>6Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.

>7Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,

>8And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.

>1 Peter 2 i am the rock
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>>139702081
I'm currently suffering from a major life threatening illness. I need to return to my home state immediately.

I went to a baptist church for three years straight. When I got sick no one from my church came to help me. No one brought a meal. No one called to check up on me. No one offered to help me pack up my stuff in the most dire and terrible time in my life. Eventually the pastor said he could come by one day to help me put stuff in boxes, but this was after months of the entire church abandoning and ignoring me

Baptist are full of shit, Many of them simply don't have the spirit or compassion of Christ in their hearts. This is what happens when you tell people they are saved by faith alone. They make zero effort to make themselves a better person.

My mother goes to a born again church. If those people were in my state every single member of her church would be here to help me.

You can judge a tree by its fruit. Spend enough time around people and it's easy to see whose really got the spirit of Christ within them and who does not
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>>139707564
>Also, the holy spirit is described as a person like god here in John 14 as someone who will abide with you and teach you
>Not to mention the numerous references to "us" in the old testament, the "spirit of god" hovering over the waters, the Son of God in Psalm 2, Psalm 45, Isaiah where the redeemer is to be named "everlasting father", seems like a crass contradiction for Jesus who was definitely "NOT" the father, I know :)
see: https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/trinity/
and
https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/wp20091101/myth-god-is-a-trinity/
The spirit is not a distinct person that exist independently, instead it is the active force of God which he can use to do whatever he wants. This assumption does not contradict any of the texts you cited.

>hmm, I thought it went "all scripture is inspired by god" or something like that
yeah, and? See my posts above "the son does not do anything out of himself..." indirectly it came from God and since "I and the father are one" there is no contradiction between what Jesus said and what God would have said.

Also note that Jesus also said "I am the good vineyard" and "I am the way" Do you think that he suddenly sprouted grapes after he said the former or stones after the latter? Instead he was using a hyperbole to get his point across "a camel through the hole of a needle" for example.

>maybe this government could rule over the souls in heaven who are with god,
But it does not according to the bible. Instead it rules over the people on earth.
The 144000 are a "new creation" something never seen before and the total exception to the rule that earth is made for humans to inhabit. This is also why Jesus can be called "everlasting father". That and his ransom sacrifice which makes eternal life in heaven and earth possible in the first place.

>after all, how will they perfectly worship god without ...
That would imply that a perfect human being is not perfect. contradiction.
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>>139700211
Don't. They're all shit.
Read the Bible. Form your own opinions. Find other sources. Edgar Cayce is a good starting point.
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>>139707232
>all that revisionism just to deny something Jesus explicitly says in the Gospels
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>>139708744
there is no revisionism, on the contrary. All this came from trying to stick as closely to the Bible as possible without being tainted by pagan philosophies and ideas (such as triads of gods which were prevalent in every pantheon).
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>>139708920
Church compiled the Bible you idiot, it didn't fall out of the sky
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>>139708920
no, the christian congregation did. The church as we know it today started with First Council of Nicaea (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Council_of_Nicaea) which was led by a pagan emperor. By now the corruption predicted by Jesus had already overwhelmed the true faith, evidenced by the fact that tons of pagan beliefs were suddenly declared christian. Not just the trinity but also the immortal soul, Hell as a place of torment, worshiping of saints, Chrismas in December, Easter with the pagan symbols of fertility, the Hare and Egg...
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>>139709287
>christian congregation did
lololololo
>The church as we know it today started with First Council of Nicaea
lolololololo
swiss education
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>>139709477
>UN
Bitch I can see you from my house, its a 10 minute walk to the actual building of United Nations here in Geneva.

Joke aside, please do some research yourself at least. Right now you are just repeating what you heard somewhere. This makes you look either very foolish or very trollish.
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>>139708920
>>139709287
>trying to stick as closely to the Bible as possible by rejecting Petrine primacy, the Holy Trinity, and the immortality of the soul
Jesus Christ
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>>139700211
>I'm looking to return to church.
It an important decision, Anon.
I live in a rural area and going to church is seen as normal. We're socially conservative, by which I mean strong family values, work ethic, neighbourliness, charity and so on. I live in a smal town (5,000 population) in rural Northern England. The sense of community is strong.
>Which denomination is best?
Whichever one fits. As long as you believe the following three things, you can call yourself a Christian:
1.Jesus Christ lived.
2.He was crucified.
3.He was resurrected.

These are vital. And all denominations accept these truths. Accept them and study the Bible. Study it with deliberate intent and mindfulness. And pray. Always, pray. Prayer is a technique to touch the Divine. You can do it when you're going about your daily activities. It's like meditating; it brings peace. Always maintain your focus on God and His word.

I'm Anglican High Church. It's very close to Catholicism but we don't accept the Roman Catholic Pope as arbiter nor "the Vicar of Christ". It's closer to Eastern Orthodoxy. Denomination can be as simple as going to the nearest church.
Here's an Orthodox chant of the Liturgy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-J2kuSCLvE

For the Holy Bible, I recommed:
https://www.biblegateway.com/

Matthew 7: verses 7 & 8 (NIV)
>7 โ€œAsk and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. 8 For everyone who asks receives; the one who seeks finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened.
You're making an important move to simply ask. You will be answered.

Pic is of the inside of my church. It's very old, over 900 years. It was built originally in wood on an old Anglo Saxon pagan site. I go in there when I seek peace. It's always got the same temperature whether it's cold or hot outside, and is so quiet. It puts my into a state of prayer by simply entering. It allows me to focus on the Divine.
God Bless, Anon.
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>>139709647
yes.
Its actually quite sad when you consider that doing what the first christians under the direct tutelage of Jesus and God did, gets us labeled as not "true" christians.

By the way, none of the points I quoted are specific to the Witnesses of Jehovas. Many people throughout the centuries have recognized them.

On the topic of Papacy: This office goes explicitly against Jesus commands "do not call anyone father for only one is your father, the heavenly one" and "you are all brothers, none of you should play the leader"
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i love how god all hints to it but yet most of us stay blind

>10 Hear ye the word which the Lord speaketh unto you, O house of Israel:

>2 Thus saith the Lord, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.

>3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.

>4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.
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>>139709911
exactly. This order against idolatry was given to Israel (they kept worshiping the Baals and Moloch) but was repeated to the christians too, in the Acts of Apostles.
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>>139700211
Heaven's Gate.
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>>139709864
Underrated.
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>>139709287
I'm pretty sure that the Church as we know it today started in Jerusalem and Antioch shortly after the resurrection of Christ as described in the Gospels and the Acts of the Apostles.
Constantine the Great convened the Council of Nicaea to settle the Arian heresy which subordinated Christ to the Father and even the Swiss heretic and crypto-Muslim Calvin would light you up like Servetus for questioning the most fundamental dogma of the Holy Mother Church that Christ and the Father are of the same essence.
Go to hell with your lies, Wikipedia heathen.
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>>139709911
Aye, you have a point.
We still have many pagan traditions, even inside my church. Pic is a replacement for an old labyrinth or maze in my church.
You are supposed to walk it while praying. There is order to it. It's utterly pagan. (pre-Christian)
The practice of kissing under the mistletoe is pagan. Venerating various plants, holly, ivy, and bring an evergreen pine tree into the home is also pagan.
At New Year I remember my grandmother sending me out and I had to bring into her home, some coal in my left hand and some salt into my right hand. She said it was because I have black hair and green eyes. Also "tall, dark and handsome". She explained that it is a ceremony to balance out the light (salt) and the dark (coal). And some other symbolism that I can't remember.
These traditions die hard. Christianity took them over and incorporated them.
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As a muslim, OP's post made me keckle.

Hey OP, choose the denomination that offers free popcorn, really God-centered you are, huh buddy?
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pic
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>>139712258
>I'm pretty sure that the Church as we know it today started in Jerusalem and Antioch shortly after the resurrection of Christ as described in the Gospels and the Acts of the Apostles.
technically correct. However if you examine closely what the christians of the 1st century believed and what those after that concile did, you will find dramatic differences. And not for the better.

This has been predicted by Jesus, when he told the illustration of the man planting a filed and his enemy planting bad weeds over night so that it would be come impossible to distinguish both (meaning that the pseudo-christians would for a long time overwhelm and be indistinguishable from true christians) Just as the Jews had lost their way despite being Gods chosen people, so it happened with the church of that time.

To claim that the loving God who punished Israel for sacrificing their sons in fire alive to Moloch would come up with such a twisted thing as eternal torment in hell is just plain insulting against God. Just as an example.
There are many such points which actually do not come from the Bible but from the pagan religions of that time or from greek philosophies. It was certainly done (at first) with good intentions: making christianity more accessible to those people. Nonetheless you cannot mix Gods teaching with that of the devil, not even a little bit. Or do you pour just a teeny tiny bit of dog poop over a delicious meal?

>Go to hell with your lies, Wikipedia heathen.ยจ
Please tell me where I lie, based on the bible and not on church traditions and I will try to correct this.

>>139712944
this. Thank you.
Also:
https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/should-we-worship-images/

https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/bible-about-easter/

https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/bible-about-christmas/

https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/who-goes-to-hell/ (less related to your post and more to mine above)
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>>139712945
Good post
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>>139700211
roman catholic church
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>>139700211
>Amish
I don't mean their simple lifestyle but how they view and practice their religion
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>>139706937

i know a few peeps who put him on a pedestal irl

they are Sad! incarnate
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>Best church?

One that NEVER asks for money.
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>>139700211

YOU SICK FUCK STOP BEING A CULT SLAVE AND BECOME THE OVERMAN!

Or a Stoic
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>>139717214
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YOU SICK FUCK STOP BEING A CULT SLAVE AND BECOME THE OVERMAN!

>Or a Stoic

I can't help thinking that this pro-tithing rant was directed at me.
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>>139717214
Religion is what distignguishes us from animals. Everyone has the need to believe in something.
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Gay marry me, anon.
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