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Do you think you are virtuous?

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With all the "degenerate" calling that is going around /pol/ I am wondering, do you think that you personally are virtuous?

As far as I can see this is just another form of defining yourself by that which you oppose, instead of actually living up to the alleged ideals. Like when Young Turks call everyone a racist, rally against bad journalism like Fox News or talk against fat shaming, yet time and time again they have shown themselves to be the hypocrites.

Likewise, I can only imagine horror that browsing history of most people here would be. Having white children and other white nationalism rhetoric is lets face it, just LARP bullshit not like any of you live up to it, not to mention many of you arent even white. Opposition to Islamic or Goverment violence again is just another reflection of hypocracy since many of you would take joy in seeing those you oppose being murdered, no matter how innocent individual may be.

Sooooo yea, are you truly virtuous and what virtues do you value?
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>>139699348
Somewhat, but at least I am not making things worse.
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>>139699441

Why are there so many Croats here?

Croatia is 99.9% white and isnt dealing with the issues that Western Europe/USA are struck with?
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I guess this topic will die.

Nig/Jew bashing must be more fun.
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>>139699348
Saul Alinsky pls
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>>139700872
WAHH WAHHAH WHY NO 1 REPLY TO THREAD? WAWAAH THIS NOT LIKE REDDIT, BABY SAD!! BABY PROMISED POSTS IN THREAD BUT GET NO POSTS!!! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH BABY VICTIM NOW AND BASH MEANIE HEAD /POL/ FOR NOT REPLY IN THREAD!!!
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>>139702251

Didnt cry, didnt call anyone mean, just was genuinely curious as to what your views are.

But I guess it is easier to pretend that I am some SJW who pretends to be the victim, than it is for you to answer simple and honest question.
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>>139699348
Actually I mostly just come here because it breaks news faster than official channels and I like chan culture.
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>>139703608
Good point! but that was not my question:)

I was curious about those White Nationalist who constantly call others degenerates and by what standard do they consider themselves to be the virtuous ones.
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>>139699348

Hostility toward degeneracy while inhibiting degeneracy is not hypocrisy. The definition of degeneracy is normally a premis based on the logic of a religion, or culture. Having said that, you cannot infer that people are being intentionally degenerate whilst calling it out. So is a slide thread, fuck you.
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>>139699348
Define "virtuous." I doubt I meet your requirements of the word but I am by no means degenerate. I don't look at porn or masturbate. I don't steal things. I don't eat fast food or drink anything but water I purified. I don't even watch television. I do charity work every Saturday. About 1/3 of my paycheck goes to a local charity group that helps my fellow white Americans. My hobbies are working out, gardening, shooting, fencing, woodwork, and browsing /pol/. I have always tried to do what is right which means I actively spend time fighting globalism, islam, jews, feminists, and globalists. Whether its using my own body as a shield to take blows for the elderly trying to rally to support free speech or taking a pipe to the chest so a child doesn't have to be hit by antifa. I would thoroughly enjoy seeing degenerates wiped off the face of the Earth and would gladly join in if the opportunity arose. Especially if it was a chance to purge communists, globalists, and jihadists.
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>>139699348
Our claim is not that we are virtuous saints.
We simply wish for a society that values virtue. It is not wrong to promote virtue, even if you yourself cannot live up to your ideals.
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>>139703488
>But I guess it is easier to
WAAAAAAAAAH BABY MAD
BABY NO GET GOOD THREAD DO BABY ACT LIKE LEFTIST AND POST OBVIOUS DRIVEL
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>>139699348

Your side first has to have an objective axiom in which to value virtue in a objectively moral universal code, which you don't. Hence why people who sin, but actively voice against it are not hypocrites.
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>>139699348
>not to mention many of you arent even white
No u
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>>139704103
I am not a leftist, nor American. Just somebody watching this from the side. So there is no "my side"
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>>139704080
Hypocrisy is wrong since lie is the root of evil. You can lie to your self and justify your own contradictory action, but that mask falls off sooner or later.
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>>139699348
yeah i'm virtuous thanks for asking
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>>139704028
I was curious about your definition and if you live up to it. If what you say is true then you would be one of the rare consistent ones around here.

Even though that 1/3 of paycheck statement is pushing it a bit;)
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>>139703982
Yes it is:) That is why I have asked you about your own definition, to see if you are living up to to your own standards, which lets face it, almost nobody here is.
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What are you even asking? Universal morals don't exist and do not apply and double standards exist because the things being compared are fundamentally different. We decry attacks by muslims but we would have no problems making the streets run red with blood as long as we aren't on the receiving end.

Hypocrisy doesn't exist. Don't fall into the universalist trap. If a bad thing happens to you it is bad if a bad thing happens to your enemy it is good. Complaining about unfairness is just slave morality.
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>>139704268
>Hypocrisy is wrong since lie is the root of evil.

It is not a lie to say that wrong things are wrong...
You don't understand what hypocrisy actually is.
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>>139699348

“None is righteous, no, not one;
no one understands;
no one seeks for God.
All have turned aside; together they have become worthless;
no one does good,
not even one.”
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>>139704195
you are a radical centrist still high on the blue pill of moral relativism, that is "there is no good and evil, only perspective and self-delusion". i'm about 95% sure that if people ITT attempt to formulate a moral standard you will point out where it came from and how it's nothing special, or possibly hypocritical. but /pol/ is not a demographic, which you know, so this is just baiting for a gotcha. there is no "definition" of morality you fedora, and it's retarded to suggest something doesn't exist until properly defined with some language. also, how are you not defining yourself by being above morality? that enlightened smugness you feel doesn't make you less opposed to the notion
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>>139704556
I agree that morals in standard sense are just what people of certain culture believe in, and that can quite frankly be absolutely anything.

Still there are rules and laws to the existence and hypocrisy very much exists, if you do exactly the thing that you pretend to oppose, just under a different banner, you arent changing the world for the better, but are just perpetuating same bullshit in a different package.

If your world view was in any sense true, then things would not progress ever and we would still be on the level of the barbarian horde.
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>>139704821
actually i've reconsidered, you're an aggressive leftist with some rules for radicals in the back of your mind. sage and pls fuck off
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>>139704625

Correct, it is not a lie to call out the wrongdoing but it is the lie towards your own self to pretend that you oppose it while you perpetuate it.

>> I oppose X while not doing it (Truthful stance)

>> I oppose X while doing it (a self-deception aka lie)
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>>139704646

In what world is that true?
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>>139699348
Did someone call you degenerate for bragging about all the people you slept with? Anyway, idk about virtuous, but I'm not a hypocrite. I won't call someone degenerate for something I do myself.
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>>139704268
>this guy with lung cancer is telling me to not smoke
>but he's a smoker
>what a hypocrite i'm going to light up a cig right now

Yeah, most leftists and rightists are indeed hypocrites. However, righists tend to be more right about the way society should be structured than leftists.
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>>139704740

Wrong once again, I am the furthest thing away from the moral relativist. From my point of view things are very exact.

>>but /pol/ is not a demographic

I would argue against it, since there are certain more prevalent beliefs that people here hold, but still I did not ask for a general definition that would apply to everyone, I was/am asking people do it it individually for themselves.

Rest of your statements are just more misguided assumptions.
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>>139705080

Been browsing this website lately so all the posturing made me curious.
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>>139704930
>but it is the lie towards your own self to pretend that you oppose it while you perpetuate it.

Yea of course. That's true. We all must take responsibility for the morality we espouse. It's not enough to MERELY talk. We have to be the change we want to see.

But consider that a person cannot change in a day. These things take time and before you can reach a virtue, you need to name it.

X is good, Y is bad. We need to call it out before we can move ourselves towards it. We are talking about it because we wish to find agreement on the true moral.

It's certainly bad to not live up to your own virtues. .... But it's only hypocrisy if you do not genuinely pursue the virtues you espouse. If you believe that such a virtue is good for other people and not for yourself.
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>>139705143
>From my point of view things are very exact.
one could almost say... autistically exact. either way you're clearly not from here and are high on your own intelligence.
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>>139705257

When I had one rather intense thing happen to me, I've changed my ways that very day.

Things are a process, but how long can one postpone them until it becomes obvious that he is just full of shit?
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Why do you think we're always talking about sorting ourselves out?
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>>139704139

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiighttt....
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>>139705424

Well I see people here always talking about kikes/nigs but yes there are some Jordan Peterson fans and that is nice.

But why talk about it, why not do it?

What things would you like to sort in your life?
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>>139699902
They're dealing with us
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>>139699348
I like to party with my peeps,
Cruise 'n creep
Playin' three card monty on these crazy streets
Straight hustler, I'm gonna scam in a minute
So low to the floor pick the pocket on a midget
Like a booger on the wall
I stick to this
Take a whiff of this
Im one stinky dinky ha-ha-ha-haaaa
>[fart sounds]
One stinky dinky ha-ha-ha-haaaaaaaa
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>>139705593
Beside religion, Bosnian and Croats are the same shit racially, language and mentality wise. So what am I missing here, what are you trying to say?
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>>139705381
>Things are a process, but how long can one postpone them until it becomes obvious that he is just full of shit?

I don't know. It depends on the situation I think. A person is either full of shit or not. Many people on 4chan are dead end losers who will always be that way.... But I have seen with my eyes the efforts of many here to improve themselves.
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>>139703488
He's got a point though. Your OP is in the same vain as "So, /pol/, do you hate niggers because you have small dicks?"

It's condescending and nobody likes being condescended to.

Who am I to think that I'm virtuous? Stalin thought he was virtuous, so did Genghis Khan. If you're not a stormfaggot - so did Hitler.


The main problem with your post is that you're a universalist, /pol/ (>inb4 not one person) is generally not universalist, but tribalist. A lot of people on here think that rules don't apply to all peoples, nor should they.

basically this
>>139701025

No, you're not genuinely curious. You're either a shill, a leftist, or misguided as fuck.
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>>139705439
wow such a fortunate coincidence you at least had that image saved right? but you're still actually curious about individual definitions of morality and especially when they're hypocritical in the individual? fuck off you baiting retard. Tip for your next bread: you will get more replies if you simply name it "WHY ARE YOU ALL SUCH HYPOCRITICAL FAGGOTS?" and resist the urge to blog about your intelligence
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>>139705760
wow that spacing is retarded
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>>139705760
>It's condescending and nobody likes being condescended to.

True, I do come across in such way.

>>Who am I to think that I'm virtuous?

If you call other degenerate and see them as below yourself then by default that means you do have standard of what that means.

...and yes my curiosity is genuine :) I wouldnt enjoy seeing what you folks have to say if it wasnt.
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>>139705802
Nahh I've just googled it since I recall seeing it on some other topic.

Seeing that an apparent double standards of some people on here is why I've made this topic, to ask about the make belief LARP that some engage in.
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>>139699348
Why are lefties wrong 100% of the time

Because, they are not right.
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>>139706080

Would you consider it "right, to make love with the cute Latina girl in the OP?
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>>139699348
Who is she?
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>>139705998
>I wouldnt enjoy seeing what you folks have to say if it wasnt.
not as much fun as pointing out how it's wrong though right?? your condescension only "comes across in such a way" while you talk about obvious LARPs after you googled some. As long as you feel like your interests are true :) they must be true :)

everybody can smell you're not here to learn mate, you're here to show off your intelligence and want us to perform circus tricks for your amusement. nothing better than a good GOTCHA with those ebil nazis. What's ironic is that if you lurked longer to learn (like you claim) you'd know you're a stereotype. But with an ego like yours it's necessary to be sure these are just "misguided assumptions". It can't be you're just another boring baiting lefty.
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>>139705998
Well if I call a nigger a degenerate for selling drugs, going to jail, beating his wife, or whatever, doesn't even have to be a nigger, I wouldn't do the same.

I consider smoking weed to be degenerate and I don't do it, but I don't think that it should be illegal. "Degenerate" is the same as saying that something is immoral, something that is harmful to society and, by extent, to civilization. I don't think that all things I deem degenerate should be outlawed, because a good dose of shaming works just as well.

I can guarantee you that I don't partake in any activities that I deem to be degenerate, but yes, they are people that do things they believe are bad and they feel shame (see fag priests). They are degenerates by their own standards and they acknowledge it. That doesn't mean that their concept of degeneracy is off and they have no standard, rather that means that they're unable to live up to that same standard.
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>>139706394
Camila Cabello from 5th Harmony
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>>139699348
pol is the dredge of society and some slavs who are by defsult dredges of society... cum splattered with some no loo poos and sub human turks or tuek rape babies.
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>>139706426
I am such a stereotype yet almost all your assumptions about my stances so far were wrong.

I dont care about the "evil Nazies", people commit evil in the name of all kinds of different ideologies/excuses.
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>>139706445
I guess we dont see eye to eye on that one, I believe if one truly considers something to be wrong, he will work to differentiate himself from it.

The very reason why child fucking priest is pretending to be celibate is because he doesnt consider his deeds to be wrong, he is only sorry if he gets caught.
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>>139706614
I know, you're a moral relativist in love with your own intelligence. That doesn't mean you don't have a moral system, it means you believe you've constructed it yourself or taken it from "science". You don't care about evil nazis but white nationalists are just obviously LARPing with their rhetoric and what gives eh? Well whatever, good luck with your thread. I'm sure you'll snare some lolberts with their NAP or confused redditors trying to make sense of their horseshoe theory
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>>139706507

hahahah I would say your descriptions probably describes it rather well.

But when dredge starts to pretend that they are on top, one has to wonder....
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>>139706507
he will like this post, 100% he will like it
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>>139706478
Damn, she's hot as fuck. It feels weird to be oggling famous people who are younger than I am now.
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>>139706767

Wrong again my Dutch buddy.

If you havent run away already, tell me this. Why are you so desperate to have me fit into your preconceived stereotype of who you think your opponents are?
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>>139706706
I really don't think that our opinions differ. I said that a fag priest is a degenerate, but that doesn't mean that his standards of degeneracy are wrong. Yes, he is weak and doesn't live up to those standards, or he might be a flat out phoney.

>>139706908
Because you come off as Rules for Radicals come to life.
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>>139706876

Dont feel weird!

Embrace your nature, it is gooood :)
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>>139706972

I see people keep mentioning it, but I've never even read that book nor have much interest in it.

I try my best to live truthfully and in accordance with what I know is good.
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>>139706767
>Why are you so desperate to
You fit the stereotype perfectly mate, but lurkers and posterity can figure it out for themselves. I'm off now, but you should look into this really smart and moral character called saul alinsky
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>>139706992
Yeah, well it'll probably only be more like this as I age and they don't haha.
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>>139707118

You have quoted yourself while saying "You fit the stereotype perfectly mate".

A perfect ending to our conversion, take care!
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>>139705743
croats have dealt with 500 years of islamic invasions.that is what you are missing.
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>>139699348
I'm not virtuous, you're just a faggot.
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>>139707241
GOTCHA!
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>>139707242

Ohh true. But when you said it, i've assumed there was some tension between you and them now.

Arent Bosnians just Muslimised Croats due to that invasion? Meaning that my statement about mentality/race/etc holds true?
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>>139707106
>I see people keep mentioning it, but I've never even read that book nor have much interest in it.
You should. It's not a neo-Nazi propaganda piece, it's quote the opposite - a book written about using the democratic liberal capitalist system against itself, which was written by a Marxist Jew.

>I try my best to live truthfully and in accordance with what I know is good.
What you know is good is a lie, judging by the way you structure your arguments.
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>>139707450

One can only know the truth, and believe in the lie.
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>>139707378
religion is one of the most important factors of culture,so with islam bosniaks also embraced turkisk culture and even partially their language.
to this day croats mostly are fine with bosnian muslims,but hate all other muslims,albanians are probably fine in croat eyes too.
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>>139707106
and what is it that you 'know' is 'good'? I'm curious.
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>>139707812


To quote some oldfag, seek the truth and the truth shall set you free.

I am not a Christian, but throughout my life I've kept seeing that to truly get to what is good one has to be willing to see the truth for whatever it turns out to be, while the lie is what leads to evil and misery.

Apply this to any situation and it will work. An honest sight will lead you towards what is true and in turn make do good, while dishonesty leads us astray and justifies violation of others.

To be more specific, all actions should be based on the golden rule or a slight redefinition of it... dont violate the free will of another, as you wouldn't want yours to be violated.

This Truth is both universal and very exact.
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Yeah, I already rejected a few women simply because of they werent virgins.
I dont care if I die alone, I was alone for my entire life, honestly relationships sound like a choer at this point
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>>139708419

Are you a virgin?

You obviously are aware that as time passes your window will be smaller and smaller for any relationship based on that standard, why does this matter to you? Even with the virgin, there is a very good probability that relationship will fall apart, only forcing you to find a non virgin afterwards.
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>>139708553
Yes I am a virgin, I wouldnt ask it otherwise. I just want my first time to be with a virgin. Everything after that could be with non virgin. I just want to feel like in teen love I missed out on because I had to work from young age and honesly I was ugly as fuck when I was 15 years old.
As I said I dont care about dying alone.
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>>139708846

ok, I do wish you good luck with finding that which you seek :)
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