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Homosexuality is not genetic, one is not born with it (a's far as I know). It is caused by early childhood, other early experiences, social environment, parents, education etc.

Many fetishes also originate this way.

I want to know pol:
How can I, myself, be more straight, masculine, dominant?
Is bisexuality more normal than heterosexuality?
How can I restrain myself from my fetishes/fantasies , when it is so easy to give in?

Thanks very much.
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>>139676840
>Is bisexuality more normal than heterosexuality?
No you dumb ass faggot.

It's normal to see porn or shows of guys doing things you want to do because you're living vicariously through them, but wanting to suck off a dude or take the cock is not normal.

Some fetishes are fine, for example, I get off on girls blushing, especially ENF material. Shit, my biggest fantasy is this, so I'm vanilla as fuck.
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>>139676840
Genetic Evidence of Homosexuality:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/06/04/the-science-of-sexuality-how-our-genes-make-us-gay-or-straight/

http://archive.is/y64OH

https://www.advocate.com/health/2015/10/09/study-dna-identical-twins-can-reveal-whos-gay

http://archive.is/GuptB

http://www.nytimes.com/1991/12/17/science/gay-men-in-twin-study.html

http://archive.is/PSmzQ

https://www.christiantoday.com/article/research.points.to.genetic.element.in.homosexuality/35856.htm

Straight males carry gay genes:

http://chaladze.com/files/publications/Chaladze2016ASB.pdf

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xq28

Fecundity increases in female relatives of male homosexuals:

http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0051088

https://www.livescience.com/2623-gays-dont-extinct.html

http://archive.is/32sQz

Scientists find DNA differences between gay men and their straight twin brothers:

http://archive.is/g3lal

http://www.nature.com/news/epigenetic-tags-linked-to-homosexuality-in-men-1.18530

http://www.tim-taylor.com/papers/twin_studies/studies.html

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/identical-twins-genes-are-not-identical/

http://archive.is/MALR3

http://www.hawaii.edu/PCSS/biblio/articles/1961to1999/1993-homosexual-orientation-in-twins.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xq28

Female relatives of gay men have 1.3x as many children:

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1743-6109.2012.02785.x/abstract

Androgen receptor gene linked to XQ28

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAGEA11

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2014/11/study-gay-brothers-may-confirm-x-chromosome-link-homosexuality

http://archive.is/E3my1
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>>139676840

Just because it's not genetic, that doesn't mean you can't be born with it. A common theory (that, for some reason, everyone ignores) is that it can be caused by hormone displacement in the womb during pregnant - gay men don't get enough testosterone, while gay women get too much. It's not genetic, but the cause is still biological. This also helps explain why gay men tend to be so feminine and gay women tend to be rather masculine.
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oh man one of those self-loathing types huh. you'd be gay as fuck in cali or nyc. you're just around ugly repressed machismo chileans all the time.
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>>139676840

Are you aware of the recent discovery made by tens of thousands of men that paraphilias can be cured by "rebooting" the brain, i.e. abstaining from all pornography, masturbation, and sexual contact for a period of at least six months? A large number of men have reported curing homosexual desires, transgender desires and even ones for child and animal pornography by this method. I recommend the following links to your perusal:

https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/are-fetishes-innate

https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/are-sexual-tastes-immutable

https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/what-benefits-do-people-see-as-they-reboot

https://www.reuniting.info/download/pdf/0.BENEFITS.pdf

https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/brain-scan-studies-porn-users
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You will assimilate
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>>139677302

Homosexuality is a Choice

Identical Twin Studies Prove Homosexuality is No Genetic
http://www.hollanddavis.com/?p=3647

New Twin Study: People Not Born Gay
http://americanvision.org/8136/new-twin-study-people-not-born-gay/

No One is Born Gay
http://www.nooneisborngay.com/

Proof You Can't be 'Born Gay'
http://www.wnd.com/2012/10/why-you-cant-be-born-gay/
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I'm pretty sure I was born a footfag. I remember being 5 years old and playing a game we called "Tiger and Zebra", and every time I would tickle her feet and get hard as a fucking rock.

I developed a sleeve-half-covering-the-hand kink because the first girl I really, really liked did that shit.
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can confirm, I went homo like a fetish
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>>139677733
Completely bullshit:

http://archive.is/1s0i6
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>>139676840
fags are born that way OP

don't feel bad for sucking dick. just don't be a faggot about it.
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>>139677302
Basically homosexuality is somewhere between being a genetic disorder or a mental illness... same with all other perversions.
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nothing gets me off quicker than spit roasting my girlfriend with a bull dyke lesbian pounding her pussy with a 9 inch strapon,.
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>>139677949
good for you anon.

see, OP? you need to just embrace the things that gets you off.
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>How can I, myself, be more straight, masculine, dominant?
Be sure of yourself, get a grip of your self steem.
Most homos have a lack of self steem and require others to fill it in for them, like obese people, "special" people or most women.
This is seen as femenine and needy.

>Is bisexuality more normal than heterosexuality?
Believe it or not, Bisexuality does not exist, it's always closetted homos trying to come out while being somewhat normal or people trying to be special, but they'll always lean to one side more than the other.
One of my favourite quotes from name I can't remember "Every bisexual person will eventually choose a side"
>How can I restrain myself from my fetishes/fantasies , when it is so easy to give in?
Fetishes and fantasies are thing that get you turned on, if you can get some common decency it's ok
If you see a girl bend over and see her ass, then get turned on, it's normal, for it's just your own sexual attraction.
If, let's say, you like chubby girls, and you see a chubby girl, feel a bit more attracted to her to another girl, it's normal, but if you go "I wish I could fuck her right here" in your head, you're crossing the line of self control.

Hope this helps huasin
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>>139677855
Your a fucking mentally ill faggot
https://pastebin.com/jaHkuPy9
https://pastebin.com/XVU8JRyn
Get help or kys
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>>139677733
you're either a closeted fag or just a stupid nigger if you think that

also your "studies" are shit. so you're st least too dumb to understand science. fucking normie.
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>>139678200
Quality recent sources!
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>>139678267
Kys faggot
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>>139676840
>>139677816
Same with me. Ever since I remember I was weirdly attracted to things getting eaten in games, cartoons, films etc. It wasn't until my mid teens that I ran across something of that nature and struck a diamond boner without even realising. Then I found out vore was a thing. I'm not particularly happy about it but I'm not gonna argue with my dick
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>>139678187
Also, forgot to mention, be true to yourself.
Your dick knows things better than you.
If you can't get it up for certain thing, it's better calling it off.
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>>139677928
>mental illness... same with all other perversions.

Wonder if thats why I have a fetish for incest... never had a strong relationship with my family yet I wish I did and envy those who get along with thier family and now incest is my favorite type of porn
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>>139678187
Thx for your response.

It's that my fetishes have a wide range. I went back on most of them, like bdsm, diaper, bondage etc.

It's just this one that I am coming back to:
(Forced) crossdressing/ feminization, fantasising about wearing panties and then submitting to a dominant girl.

I need help. I feel sick, exploring this side of me. It's been a year since I last wore panties, but I want to go out and buy new ones.

What do I do?
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>>139678606

"Human sexuality is far more "condition-able" than experts realized. A 2016 study found that half of internet porn users had escalated to material they previously found "uninteresting or disgusting."

In addition, this 2016 study casts doubt on that assumption that sexual tastes are stable with respect to today's (streaming) internet pornography (Sexually Explicit Media Use by Sexual Identity: A Comparative Analysis of Gay, Bisexual, and Heterosexual Men in the United States). Excerpt from this study:
The findings also indicated that many men viewed sexually explicit material (SEM) content inconsistent with their stated sexual identity. It was not uncommon for heterosexual-identified men to report viewing SEM containing male same-sex behavior (20.7%) and for gay-identified men to report viewing heterosexual behavior in SEM (55.0%).
This study, taken together with other studies on this page, debunks the meme that today's porn users eventually "discover their true sexuality" by surfing tube sites, and then stick to only one genre of porn for the rest of time."
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>>139678888

This guy really captures the phenomenon:

Man I'm so put out right now. I can't seem to stop myself. Once I was addicted to pornography and I managed to quit.. for almost 3 months. This has escalated over the years from aged 12 somewhat like this;

Underwear models
Nude models
Basic sex in porn
BJs
Anal
Gangbangs
Male domination of women
Femdom
Feet
Femdom with pain
Femdom with an emotional feel

Then I found fetish forums/facebooks. I used to think it was bad to watch porn for 4 hours. Since 6/7 months ago on at least 4 or 5 occasions I have been up ALL NIGHT, we're talking 12+ hours here. I've just finished a 5 hour session of misery. And once again my brain feels so abused by it. I feel jittery and socially awkward and anxious like you can't believe.

Each time I abuse porn it gets a tiny shade more extreme. I spent a great deal of my last session fantasizing about homosexual activity in a forced femdom context. Now returned to normal after orgasm, I feel absolutely disgusted. This is not something i would ever find attractive in the real world, in my right mind! I'm struggling so hard to break the cycle, this is the only place I could write this down.

It's clear that he wasn't discovering his "true sexuality" through Internet porn use, rather Internet porn use during adolescence was shaping his sexual tastes - right through his very last session a few hours earlier."

More information at: https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/are-fetishes-innate
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>>139676840
>It is caused by early childhood, other early experiences
thats why faggots molest little kids because it creates more faggots
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>>139678466
Being a vorefag is suffering. I hate that I share anything in common with one of the most autistic groups imaginable.
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>>139676840
>straight guy asks, 'am i straight enough senpai?'
for starters, try not being such an insecure little faggot like 95% of /pol/ in the first place. don't worry how others get their dick on
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>>139676840
I've always been gay. I've always liked guys. I like dick up my ass. I love when a man chokes me and spits on me. I love men
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>>139679177
Iktf, senpai. Finding good quality stuff is so hard and many decent artists are shilling their shit on patreon for ridiculous prices now
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>>139678466
>>139677816
I was absolutely born a diaper fetishist. My earliest memory is stealing my friend's brother's diapers from across the street and wearing them at night when my parents went to bed. I was like 4 or 5 years old at the most. I remember being depressed when his brother was potty trained and I had no more diapers to steal. I was obsessed with them, I would go shopping every week with my mom just to walk down the diaper aisle, and this was years before I ever had a sexual inkling, let alone started masturbating. It caused a deep sense of shame in me that I still live with to a large extent but I learned to accept it. I tried to stop masturbating to diaper stuff numerous times throughout my teenage years and I could never shake it.
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>>139678777
Well anon, you see, porn fucks with your mind and will screw you over.
I remember that 4 to 5 years ago I started to watch porn regularly.
Pretty standar stuff, and I slowly degraded the more I watched.
I can hardly get off to anything nowadays, and I've jacked off to some nasty, NASTY shit.
I feel that most of the porn I watch now it's because it's "taboo" or "inmoral"
For example, when I see a sign that says "Do not touch" the first thing I do it's touch it, creates a sense of freedom, rebellion and such, and so happens with the porn I watch and used to watch.
Maybe you like stuff like wearing panties and getting dominated because you think or feel it's inmoral, but hey, I can't stop you from shoving a dildo inside you if you're inside your room, go ahead and see how that plays out.
Do you masturbate everyday? you should try to stop, it may make you a lot hornier, but will make you actually enjoy the times you do it with much simpler stuff.
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So many fucking shills on /pol/ now it's fucking annoying
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>>139677558

>>139679570
What do you mean?
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>>139676840
Ignore all the reddit posters on this thread.

Stop watching porn, stop masturbating, when sexual thoughts come into your head, think of something else. Do this for 6 months and it will work.
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This sums up white nationalism (Nazism) >>139671942
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Even if some of it is nurture, no one would actually want to live in a world that controlled every detail about what stimuli may or may not activate whatever inborn sexuality you grow to develop.

Like seriously think about it. You would have to eliminate all televisual and auditory forms of media. There is a form of sexuality-building gender relation and power play politics in every single children's story, in every single family dynamic. Unless you create a totalitarian, anti-human authoritarian society unlike anything ever built before, there will always be people who are turned on by the same sex.
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>>139679622
You will never be /pol/ material so fuck off and go back to your LGBT and stay there freak
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>>139679570
IKR i can barely find /ourguys/ betwixt the faggotry and liberalism.
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>>139676840
>Homosexuality, Bisexuality, Fetishes
There's only 2 genders, faggot.
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(As a fellow white person) >>139676840
I myself find that a hedonist lifestyle is typically the best for you.
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>>139678986
I'm into that same exact shit. God damn. Progressed over the years with me as well.
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>>139676840
Believe it or not you can live to be a hundred if you give up all the things that make you want to live to be a hundred.
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>>139677302
All that is speculative theories. We want proof: Gene sequence "A" produces physical trait "B", "B" results in homosexual behavior.

When that shows up, let us know.
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>>139679526
You sir need to do the world a favor...
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>>139676840
Actually faggotry is a mental disease that occurs from certain items you digest while the baby is in the womb. Its mother nature's way of punishing the retarded and cleansing the gene pool of unwanted sperm.
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>>139680686
Well most likely it isn't just one gene and how the genes are expressed matters, and we don't know to what extent hormonal womb environment matters.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/unaids-hiv-infection-rate-down-33-percent-worldwide-since-2001/
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>>139677558
I throw up a little every time I see this image.
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>>139680731
why kill myself? I already have no chance at procreating. I might as well shitpost for white nationalism on the internet
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>>139679526
SOMEONE GET THIS MAN TO THE GAS CHAMBERS, STAT.
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Why non-lgbt guys are tend to discuss topics about gays? dont worry fags no one desires you to fuck. actually no one gives a shit on you. you can kill yourself on the corner bitch
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>>139680913
you should just submit and become gay already qt, we'll get rid of that gag reflex for you!
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>>139677141
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>>139678405
>discard sources because you don't agree with them.
like the other guy said, please, kys.
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>>139681174
Yeah no. This is what I think of you faggots.
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>>139681113
So then you won't mind baking us cakes for our weddings and certainly won't mind leaving us alone in public?

https://patch.com/new-york/bed-stuy/elderly-man-screams-anti-gay-slurs-threatens-stab-subway-rider-prosecutors-say

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2017/08/30/gay-couple-win-damages-after-county-clerk-calls-them-an-abomination/

http://www.wafb.com/story/36232550/ca-bakery-refusing-to-serve-same-sex-couple
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>>139676840

I'm afraid you're bisexual forever, anon :3
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>>139681309
It isn't about agreeing with them it is about the quality of the evidence. Are those widely used sources? Have the results been replicated? Were they obtained with appropriate methodological rigor?

Many of the sources in that are tabloid tier opinions against gays and poorly conducted outdated surveys.
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>>139681458
No such thing:

https://www.scholars.northwestern.edu/en/publications/sexual-arousal-patterns-of-bisexual-men

There has long been controversy about whether bisexual men are substantially sexually aroused by both sexes. We investigated genital and self-reported sexual arousal to male and female sexual stimuli in 30 heterosexual, 33 bisexual, and 38 homosexual men. In general, bisexual men did not have strong genital arousal to both male and female sexual stimuli. Rather, most bisexual men appeared homosexual with respect to genital arousal, although some appeared heterosexual. In contrast, their subjective sexual arousal did conform to a bisexual pattern. Male bisexuality appears primarily to represent a style of interpreting or reporting sexual arousal rather than a distinct pattern of genital sexual arousal.
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>>139681056
(As a fellow white person) I see nothing morally wrong with homosexuality in fact Homosexual leaders in our movement would be much better than female leaders. Just because you like to suck cock doesn't make me any less White than Richard Spencer.
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>>139681439
Then you wouldn't mind not showing your faggot kinks to children?
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>>139681568
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>It is caused by early childhood, other early experiences, social environment, parents, education etc.

Literally this
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>>139676840
I hate niggers and jews as much as the next person on /pol/ but what I hate way more than any other group is gays. kill yourself
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>>139681510
Oh anon your going to burn in hell for yours sins
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>>139676840
I think some people are born with genetic leanings: more masculine women tend to be gay / feminine men lean gay. If someone is Bi they likely have a "type" that males and females can both meet the description of.
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I dont hate toward the people who I dont even know. So I would not bake a cake on your weddings but also I would not scream or stab or kill or argue with the gays because I DONT KNOW YOU. If I had any gay friends he would be my friend because he is my friend not because he is gay. I mean people just live their life, I dont care what others do and I ask same thing from them. If you are being bullied or need help Id help you if you asked help but I would not do it because of your identity but your humanity. I know terrible things comes to LGBT people but life is not only hard for you guys and if you want something you need to fight for it.
Have peace in your life. No need to explain anything to the fags here.
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>>139681640
That's a No True Scotsman fallacy right there, faggot. And not the only example either.
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>>139681541
I don't like to suck cock, I wish I were just gay that would be so much easier
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>>139682011
Exactly correct
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>>139682024
So can one disapprove of fetishes and public nudity and approve of gays right to march in public?
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>>139681802
>understanding of physical concepts ends with "matter", not even a mention of energy

lol
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>>139681534
>In general, bisexual men did not have strong genital arousal to both male and female sexual stimuli.
>In general
>strong genital arousal
>strong

Oh, so I guess there is such a thing after all then, but perhaps most have a preference for one sex over the other, which makes sense considering a 50/50 split sounds a little too clean-cut for sexuality. You doofus.

I can attest that as a male my sexuality is very much fluid. But I'm not like most people mentally, I admit.
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>>139682171
You will find out in the end
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>>139681541
Tell that to the Seattle mayor. Don't get me wrong, I'm gay, but he raped his adoptive son. He's a democrat if that's anything telling
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>>139676840
Sorry, I don't know of any counter-curse or herbal remedy. I just know that it's possible to live a disciplined, goal-oriented life with no interest in sexual deviancy.
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>>139676840
I forget which comedian said it but, "Bisexuals are just Greedy". Pretty much all that needs to be said.
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>>139682161
No. See I used to not think slippery slope was real. Then gay marriage was legalized and you faggots proved me wrong. Your pride parades have become nothing more than an excuse than to publicly display how much of a degenerate you are and no one can say otherwise in the name of tolerance.

You and all the other gays have single handedly proven that slippery slope is not a logical fallacy. Congrats.
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>>139681421
I bet you fuck femboys and traps on the down low.
>>139681174
This
>>139681056
Why don't you baby?
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Faggotry is genetic.
Just not deterministic
Lots of men with faggot gene are not triggered into faggotry
Lots of men wihtout faggot genes are faggots
In fact it is the mothers genes that does it
They have the gene they get stresses causes genetic expression of faggot hormones in womb and faggot-triggerable fetal development
Then as a child the proto-faggot is raped by a man.
Grows up to be a faggot.

Don't get raped by men as a child would be my advice.
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>>139680886
Okay, I can tell you've never studied or worked in medicine. What you're looking for doesn't happen in genetics, and the conditions of the womb... the uterus doesn't work like that.

Genetic codes lead to genetic traits. For homosexuality to exist as gene caused there must be a physical trait that is linked with a specific genetic sequence. And such a trait must be something easily distinguishable from other people without the codes or genes expressed.

That's what needs to come forward: the genetic sequence(s) plus the physical trait(s) that creates a human being as homosexual.
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>>139682573
>>139682425
People don't want the truth [when] it is complicated. They don't want to spend years debating an issue. They want it homogenized, sanitized, and above all, simplified into terms they can understand.
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>>139682617
Traps are gay, Jew.
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It is so much sex in the society today. I remember when porn magazines was degenerate, that you would laugh at that perverted uncle who read porn magazines, he would be some kind of freak. But now it is everywhere, it is so normalized that we forget how it used to be.

The thing with homosexuality is that our basic instinct is to reproduce. Before people began becoming weak from xenoestrogens and marxist education, people were more inclined to adhere to the masculine heterophile principle. Now, homosexuality is being pushed as something normal. They brand you, lying saying that you can't do anything to fight it, it's how you are, and it's is genetic. It is pure bullshit. Homosexuality is a fetish, which can be unlearnt. The first step is to stop watching porn, and then you have to unlearn that dirty mind you have acquired through the years.
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>>139682911
Christianity has set the world a thousand years back.
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>>139682854
That's the problem, they can't truly confront the problem in that manner, but they won't because doing it at face value is too daunting for the cowards that make our "society" today.
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>>139682161
Well, homosexuals are 1.4% total population. Folks who self-harm are 4.2% total population. If the cutters tried a pride parade, they'd go straight to the hospitals.

One form of mental disorder is more acceptable? No, any mental disorder that is disruptive to the individual and/or society needs help.
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>>139678466
I'm a macrofurfag and jesus christ vore fetishists are the fucking worst. Fuck those guys and their community. Happy not to be you.
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>>139683008
>1000
>people were originally saying 100
Kek, can't even keep your stories consistent.
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>>139677302
Oh this retard again.
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>>139683125
There are so many qualities that make up a human being.By the time I get through with all the things that I really admire about people, what they do with their private parts is probably so low on the list that it is irrelevant
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>>139683260
Where did I say 100 years?
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>>139682573
We have one day where all closeted people can stand together amongst other gay people. That is important when your affinity group doesn't have visibility. I don't approve of nudity or sex at those parades but they are important gather places and often near or the largest parade in many American cities.

>>139682759
It isn't just one genetic sequence that causes it clearly. They have sequences the entire genome and if there were one particular sequence that signaled being gay we would have found it by now due to bioinformatics.
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>>139683566
Not you but everyone else that has ever said the "Christianity has held us back" meme.
If anything, Jewish infiltration to the Church held the world back.
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>>139683429
Exactly. So why are homosexuals (1.4% total pop.) and gender dysphorics (0.07% total pop.) so prominent when other mental disorders are much more pressing?
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>>139683839
Stop spreading antisemitic wild rumors
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>>139683125
4% according to Gallup but keep trying to erase us:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/201731/lgbt-identification-rises.aspx

7% of millennial identify as gay or bisexual as well:

https://www.prri.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/PRRI-Millennials-Web-FINAL.pdf
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>>139676840
I'm a male who is attracted to both sexes, but I mostly engage with females. I think the liberals are right that gayness is a spectrum.
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fucking faggots.
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>>139683947
Your fuck shill aren't you
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>>139684078
I'am white person just like you and as such a white nationalist. Questions?
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>>139683947
>wild rumors.
You're a normalfags who came here either to disprove us "hateful" people or a person who liked the memes spread from here and decided to check out this board.
STFU and lurk more, newfag. You'll learn a thing or two here, whether you want to or not.
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>>139677302
What about the other similar deviancies like pedophilia or zoophilia?
Are they genetic too?
And can gays be cured?
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>>139684227
>white nationalist
>not calling out the Jew
Heretic spotted.
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>>139684279
I'm a normalfag and I like it here. I support freedom of speech, and a lot of you have the right to say what you want and let it all out props to you man.
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>>139684279
I wish all these newfags would just leave
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>>139684325

Does conversion therapy work:


http://whatweknow.law.columbia.edu/topics/lgbt-equality/what-does-the-scholarly-research-say-about-whether-conversion-therapy-can-alter-sexual-orientation-without-causing-harm/

http://www.newsweek.com/life-and-death-jewish-exgay-therapy-organization-406898

http://archive.is/TZ3kj
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>>139684384
Hes an obvious shill who was namefagging in a different thread ignore him
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>>139683764
The ENCODE project is not yet complete - that's a long ways away.

And I'll go a bit easier on you. When I say "gene sequence" that implies a range. Repeating your point of more than one code doesn't work as I'm already saying that.

If ENCODE finds the gene sequence and identifies the trait(s) that's the cause of homosexuality, then I'll consider it. Right now, homosexuality is NOT genetic, and speculative studies and theories aren't even good enough to create an argument, much less an anecdote.
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>>139684517
>choosing to be a normalfag even after being here for a long time
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>>139684384
Stop dividing our movement. Antisemitism is illogical primitive ignorance. There is nothing as ridiculous and tragic as antisemitism in a white nationalist movement we will fail as a movement if we don't rid ourselves once and for all of this insanity. 'Hurr durr Jews putting whitey down'
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>>139684056
1.4% according to the CDC. Opinion polls do not mean much anymore.
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>>139684632
How so?
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>>139684774
It's easy to think this if you've not had much experience with Jews... Their culture is dangerous to all nonJews
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I wish all normfags,newfags and actual fags fucking off with there shill ways because your destroying /pol/ , now leave it's fucking annoying
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>>139684635
Well it also doesn't take into account other nuances of how DNA is expressed, not just coded, that I am obviously not an expert on but include epigenetic tags.
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>>139684902
i'm not telling you shit new shill lurk moar
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>>139684929
(As a fellow white person) That is absolute nonsense I have been hired by many Jews.
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>>139684795
Which is an extremely low estimate, that's why you are using it. Most other sources place it higher.
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>>139676840
Holy fuck dude just be who you are and cut the denial and self-loathing. Do you want up some up repressed fag in a beard marriage, your entire life a lie? Just be who you are and be proud. Fuck this place and fuck the macho bullshit culture you undoubtedly live in. I'm bi myself and prefer women but I appreciate male beauty. Think I give a fuck what anyone thinks? Trust me, you swarthy oily types have enough breeders. One more nancyboy ain't gonna hurt anyone.
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>>139684929
Seriously stop replying to him i know im setting a bad example but he's an obvious shill
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>>139684325
As you folks have probably noticed, a new species of White Male made an appearance in the 21st century. Paraded as the “modern man”, this species, despite outwardly possessing male genitalia, exhibits prominent feminine features: high-pitched voices, little to no body hair, low muscle mass, round flabby faces, scrawny limbs, thin necks, wide hips and sometimes even semi-developed breasts. Femininity is not limited to physical appearance, however - the “modern man” is soft, emotional, sensitive, passive-aggressive, cowardly and extremely submissive. Some of us call members of this species “nu-males”, the less polite among us call them cucks and faggots, while in Russia they are known as having “never lifted anything heavier than a dick”. They are the eloi of the 21st century – a weak, bumbling, narcissistic breed, consumed by petty distractions and utterly worthless.

However, many people still think that this mutation has occurred due to purely non-physical reasons, such as cultural Marxist education and brainwashing as well as promotion of feminism and subsequent disruption of gender roles in Western society. They are not entirely wrong, but this mind-rot also has a powerful physical counterpart. The cause of mass mutation of normal, strong, brave and bold men into nu-males has a name, and that name is xenoestrogens.

tl:dr: It's curable if you change your diet. I've started taking notice of my diet and surroundings, and my facial hair got thicker, i felt more dominant around other men. Stop watching gay porn, de-normalize that behavior. Become a man!
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>>139685164
Exactly correct
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>>139685164
"Do you want to end up...."

Fuckin phone.
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>>139684750
I haven't even been on here but a couple of days. it takes a min. I like and support you fags and y'all gonna throw me out just like that
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>>139684774
>our
Since when did /pol/ become your personal army?
Also,
>"Hurr durr Jew putting white man down"
>George Soros, A FUCKING JEW, is currently financially supporting Antifa to come beat the ever loving shit out of you White Nationalist LARPers
You are not a white nationalist and will never be a white nationalist because being one requires the acknowledgement of the people behind the issues facing the white race.
But I'm sure you don't care about that, you disgraceful child, pretending to be something that you don't have the stomach for because of your "tolerance" forced upon you since birth.
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>>139677733
From a quick glance at his sources, it appears this dude cites twin studies conducted by Nazis in concentration camps as evidence. Even experiments where they killed one of the twins.

Maybe one twin said they were gay and the other did not because the second did NOT WANT TO BE FUCKING KILLED?

Jesus Christ, you are an idiot.
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>>139685280
We won't throw you out, just shut the fuck up until you actually have been here for a while.
Like, I didn't actually start posting comments until 6 months after I got here, because I got my ass blasted just like you.
Just... read.
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>>139685494
>attacks the sources
>can't refute so he dismisses
Present a argument anytime now
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>>139685373
Please try not to respond so dramatically to criticism. So you have named a Jewish person involved in antiwhite activity congrats.
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>>139685682
I already refuted them here:

http://archive.is/1s0i6


The numbers he claims simply don't appear in the actual studies he claims to be citing. If they do, please post screenshots of EXACTLY where you found it in the primary source. This guy deliberately misrepresents data to fund his NARTH conversion bullshit.
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Resist the temptations!
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>>139685762
All you people are the same.
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>>139685494
>Maybe one twin said they were gay and the other did not because the second did NOT WANT TO BE FUCKING KILLED?
So you're saying all we need to is threaten to kill faggots and they'll go back into the closet ? Welp boys our work here is done lets go tell pence we found a cure for faggotry
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>>139682518
I like coke and I like pepsi, I don't drink both at once
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>>139685588
Can you prove homosexuality has no moral credibility as a sexuality?
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>>139676840
Homosexuality is genetic. You are homosexual and it's fine. Just go fuck dudes and stuff. Suck dicks. Alla that.

It's not an argument btw we found the gene.
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>>139685932
Stop trying to violate the NAP.
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>>139685916
What are you implying?
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>>139685104
Someone's been googling. Shifting the focus into gene expression; nice tactic. Unfortunately, not good enough. The genes that produce the aforementioned traits must be already present regardless and can be detected. And you still haven't mentioned anything about the necessary physical trait(s). If it is genetic, what physically denotes someone as a homosexual?

This also leads into territory you may not like. Instead of the integration the homosexuals are desiring, folks would start demanding pharmaceutical treatments to "turn off the gay". If it turns out to be genetic and there's a way to suppress the genes, what will happen to your culture?
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>>139685998
It has lead to the normalization of it. It isn't a normal condition but children are being taught it is, which leads into more problems as an adult.
I will not and cannot tolerate something that isn't true.
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>>139686019
That is utterly bullshit.

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2015/10/no-scientists-have-not-found-the-gay-gene/410059/
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Modern women are the most useless parasitic creatures to ever infest the planet

Men are better at being women than biological women are

Men are more likely to understand and indulge your fetishes, women's brains are wired differently and get turned on by vastly different things

Men are easier to talk to and form a meaningful bond with

I just want a qt boi gf to dominate and fuck senseless
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>>139686019
fake news
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>>139685208
>compare me to "eloi" because I have gynecomastia

I'd like to go toe to toe with your little blonde haired norwegian self and show you what a man is.

I'd actually fuck you in the ass after I was done just for the humiliation and I'm not gay and have never touched a guy.
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>>139686244

https://archive.is/zczmX
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>>139678777
Nice digits faggot
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>>139686097
Figure it out for yourself.
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>>139686244
oh wow link to a pop news site article about a study (note: not the study because you can't interpret it) which has nothing to do with the gay gene being found. gay gene has nothing to do with twin experiments
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>>139677816
No one is born with fetishes. I'm a total footfag and I know that came from my mother having beautiful feet and spending a lot of time as a toddler laying at the opposite end of the couch as her watching tv. It simply became a part of her body that I associated with her and in turn associated with affection and love. I didn't even realize that until I hit puberty. It felt weird at first but I never felt ashamed. I fucking love it now. The only time these things get out of hand is when they become the only possible source of sexual pleasure. Fetishes are a learned behaviour. I have no clue if being bi or gay is inherent or learned and honestly don't give a fuck. The only people who seem interested in answering that are radical fags who want to wield it as a weapon, or scumbag muh race-and-religion assholes who want to punish people for it. I despise both.
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>>139685155
I'm using a more trusted scientific source than Gallop or Cosmopolitan. CDC and HHS needed the best numbers of homosexuals to track STI infection rates.
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>>139686211
Proof?
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>>139676840
>Homosexuality is not genetic, one is not born with it (a's far as I know). It is caused by early childhood, other early experiences, social environment, parents, education etc.
Yeah I don't think I buy into this. My parents were huge hippies and constantly told me to rethink my gender that I could date boys if I wanted to. They even would put me in dresses and shit. Yet I came out straight as an arrow.

Meanwhile someone I know had the complete opposite experience. They had a super traditional family where him and all his brothers were taught to be pinnacles of masculinity at all times. All his brothers came out straight and for most of his high school he just wasn't interested in girls finally started dating in college but quickly gave it up because he wasn't interested.

After years and years he's accepted himself and is dating a big burly dude.
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>>139676840
Kys. What caused you to originally sin and mix species back in Genesis? Xq28 gene. Every single fucking day around this time we have these stupid fucking I hate my dick and cheap pussy threads. Become a cheap pussy. Problem solved. Womany whiny kike
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>>139686351
I'd rather you just say it come on you don't live in a country where I can sue you for it. Come on abide by your own rules
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>>139676840
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>>139686124
Well no, the genes could be turned off by epigenetic tags. Also, I assume most of the twin data is self-reported. I'm not sure how accurate penile plethysmographs are, but once we can somehow neurally monitor arousal (not sure if we can now or how accurate it is!) maybe that's better.

That said all the data I can find seems to center on the likelihood of this being a cluster of genes at X chromosome and possibly also 8 that make women more attracted to men and are thus + for female fecundity and - for male fecundity. Yes, its still in hypothesis phase but there isn't any sound evidence that contradicts it (that I have read) such as sound evidence that particular hormones at particular times in the womb make people gay or that it is an environmental manifestation after birth.

I would choose to keep the gay, but if CRISPR meant you could turn it off, I would support that on a voluntary, individual basis. That is gay people would be allowed to decide for themselves what arousal patterns they preferred.
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>>139676840
No one here reads every post before posting. I am one of those people.

If you want to fit in with some definition, then label yourself. Otherwise, do what pleases you.

If you are thinking about morality and possible spiritual implications, then you need to put that in to context of what will ease your thoughts...or move you to some action.
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>>139684517
>anon calls itself a normalfag
>is just a plain faggot
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>>139686383
Why would CDC magically have better numbers? They probably just sample a more conservative, older population or have a more rigorous definition such as only including self-identifying homosexuals, not bisexuals.
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>>139686356
You didn't even source your claim, faggot. The science behind is weak and very discussable.
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>>139685208
Some of the most masculine men I've ever known in my life have been fags. Men that would destroy your pasty, pathetic nazi-wannabe ass. Interesting that you'd come on here and criticize simpering nu-males meanwhile you're the epitome of a repressed overcompensating closet queen. Fuckin kill yourself you sad excuse for a man.
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>>139686835
So how do you explain female relatives of male homosexuals having more kids on average?
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>>139686737
Everything is relative there is no absolute right or wrong.
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>>139686750
Nice argument antisemite.
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>>139686750
gross. Canada is pretty fucked up
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>>139676840
>How can I, myself, be more straight, masculine, dominant?

I feel like writing a book about this. But its easy you god damn shit. Stop thinking about sex. No fap monk mode. Recreational sex is cancer and it all leads to degeneracy. Read the religious books. Read what Plato said about sexuality. Don't given in to jew engineered studies about nofap causing cancer. They cut their foreskins so their own people wont be distracted by sex/degeneracy but the goyim they feminize with this cuckery so they can rule over them.

Also cripplechan has a /nofap/ board. Go there.
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>>139686978
You're the worst kind of opinion. Every cell and particle for that matter has absolutes until it's relative. So I half agree with you.

The issue is, finding the split.
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>>139687146
>Said the zog capital of the world
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>>139687295
at least we don't suck baby dicks, faggot leaf
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>>139687169
This is exactly the kind of thought that led to the Holocaust.
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>>139687394
You're retarded

That's a Jew circumcision practice and Weimerica has more kikes than anywhere else on the planet

Your entire country is bought and paid for by the Jews. All your media is nigger worship 24/7. America needs to be purged in a nuclear holocaust.
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>>139687295
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>>139686886
Oh, the Canadian. Calling me a nazi even. I actually respect the freedom to love who you want, and the spartan way is maybe more manly than hetrophili. What i despise is artificial femininity on men and boys, coming from environmental sociological factors, as well as the diet.
>>139686958
Again, source your claims. And i fail to see how that is related to the mysterious gay gene.
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>>139687197
Define 'split'
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>>139685916
Honestly, when someone says (((Jew))), I'm thinking/reading all those things listed in that picture. I don't care about someone ethnicity/religion.
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>>139687532
>America needs to be purged in a nuclear holocaust.
I agree. North America should be Norked.
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>>139687552
I already had before in the thread so ibid. I guess but here:

Female relatives of gay men have 1.3x as many children:

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1743-6109.2012.02785.x/abstract
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>>139687586
I mean, how far does this discussion go...to the split particle experiment or to metaphysics?
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>>139687695
North Korea won't touch us because we're a Chinese colony
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>>139677302

Next they'll be saying transgender is not a mental illness.
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>>139687850
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>>139687586
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>>139687595
May I ask what country you live in?
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>>139687487

Oh yeah, Hitler wanted his people to be chaste. He shut down the sexual liberated decadence of the weimar.

I wish he had gassed all of them.
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You're a fag, it's ok. Some people like women, some people like men, some people like both. Fuck what you want, but if you like women even a little bit choose that at the end of the day because it's more fulfilling.
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>>139687778
So, are you trying to argue that because their relatives have a gay gene, the females also have that latent and would become more fertile? How is this proving that the gay gene exist? It could just as likely be that their relatives is more inquired to have children because they are concerned that their relative is gay, or other wild factors we cannot pin-point.
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>>139687971
Can you prove that pornography has no artistic value?
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>>139687832
>a Chinese colony
maybe u are
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>>139688111

its art for degenerates, sure.
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>>139688039
That it is a combo of genes/expression that makes you more attracted to men. This is explaining, in part, how it can persist in the population despite being seen as deleterious to the reproductive success of men who have it.
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>>139688184
That's why I said we faggot

Enjoy getting nuked
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>>139688111
Yes.

It's greed incarnate. The opposite of cleaving to a spouse.

F.U.C.K. fornicate under carnal knowledge
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>>139688263
Can you prove that Jews f had a markedly prevalent role in Weimar Germany's pornography?
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Look here, dude or whatever the fuck you identify as:

Homosexuality is a disease caused by hormone imbalance. It's not okay to be homo, you have to get treatment from this stupid disease. Instead the libtards are treating this like... I don't know some kind of special identity bullshit. Here's the fact: Jews made liberalism to ruin the white race. Bisexuality is also a disease, dykeness is a disease, etc. you go to the /lgbt/ idiots and say what I just said, you will get roasted and shit, so simple advice, you can't get your shit straight, then kill yourself. Don't try to populate more fags into our great nation.
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>>139687961
The Netherlands.
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>>139688503

lol this nigger. Jews run porn today. They'll get a public hanging if there is a just God.
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>>139688397
While i argued that the xenoestrogens affected the androgenic receptors of men, and made them feminine and more inclined to like dominant men, you argue that women related to gay men are more attracted to men. I'm out of here.
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>>139688754
>xenoestrogens

Homosexuality existed before plasticizers.
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>>139688754
Just ignore his dumb shill ass and keep dropping straight pills.
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>>139676840
Maricon!
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>>139676840
I like plump women (under 180, way under if short) who have a ton of maternal qualities (caring, obedient, sweet, creative, happy, etc.). Milky tits is hot too. I used to think I had all these fetishes, but really that's pretty typical and natural. The plumpness is a preference, but it's not a fetish in the sense that I find plenty of petite women sexy as hell.
I dunno. My point is that fetish gets tossed around to covet a lot of natural things that are just tastes. It only becomes a fetish when you exclusively jack off to it and essentially brainwash yourself to make it a fetish.
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>>139688845
Clearly you need to argue with other air breathing mammals before arguing with a developed brained individual. Are those example you hold on to...are they your neighborhood...are they society and rational examples, or are they primal seeds of humility.
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>>139677302
You memeflag retards are going to the camps.
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>>139688707
Are you for free speech which enables you to speak here today?
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>>139689072
Ok so where is any data that xenoestrogens are directly responsible for homosexuality?
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>>139689595
They're only partially to blame. Homosexuality just can't provide for obvious advancements in genetics. Why is that such a difficult discussion?

Argue for the future of homosexuals, etc...but don't be surprised when it doesn't gain a root.
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>>139689547

Free speech yes but not porn. Its based on absolute corruption of human soul, and those who practice it deserve gas.
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Answer this: Is obscenity protected by the First Amendment, which says the government shall make no law “abridging the freedom of speech,” or is it not?
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>>139689835
You have no good data indicating a causal link between xenoestrogens and homosexuality at large.
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>>139688184
Canada: China took over Vancouver, India took over Toronto, Muslims took over Montreal, everywhere else is white people.

United States: Everyone is a nigger spic injun mongrel and 56% of them think they are white.
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>>139689854
>absolute corruption of human soul,
Define that
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>>139689926

Speech. Not filming. Keep in mind this was written in the 1970s where Christian values were the de facto culture. They would have added death for porn jews if they existed today.
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>>139690253
>1970s

1780s*
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>>139676840
>Many fetishes also originate this way.
I've had my fetish since I was like 3 years old. I'm not saying it's genetic, but I don't think it was caused by experiences, I just bumped my head or crossed the wrong wires in my brain during development.
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>>139690051
http://www.bu.edu/sjmag/scimag2005/features/drugsinwater.htm
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>>139690426
Show me where in that it says that xenoestrogens are directly causing homosexuality in humans.
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>>139690412
>I'm not saying it's genetic

Maybe in the most rarest of cases will I accept that fetishes are not genetic. In most cases they were form by real life experiences, mixing of genital stimulation with another event to create the fetish. And just like they were learned, they can be unlearned. Requires a ton of mindful awareness and training and meditation to return back to normal though.
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>>139690253
By that logic videos on Youtube should be heavily regulated and much of your own movement should be regulated.
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>>139690051
Also, I never claimed to have the cause of homosexuality. And that article doesn't link it to homosex. I'm arguing that homosex can't procreate and it's obviously a sexual preference.
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>>139690713
Is being straight a sexual preference?
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>>139690637
Do you know that 50% of men have cheated on their wives, 69% had used prostitutes, 67-97% had premarital sex, 37% – more than one male in three have had a had a homosexual experience?
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>>139676840
I'm not sayin that cartoons make people into furries

But I can't really see any of the same sort of "unintentional(?) conditioning" for my sexuality or fetishes...
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>>139690637
I have noticed that when I don't watch porn and masturbate my sexuality tends to normalize over time, that being said whenever I fall back into the habit it's always the same fetish I return to, and I don't really gain new ones (although the situations involving said fetish do get more extreme and degenerate)
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>>139691012
sauce?
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>>139690785
I suppose it is. I do not prefer to lick hairy man ass. What say ye?
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>>139690489
Your selective memory of facts presented here is just evidence of your stupidity and bad rhetoric. Xenoestrogens is a main reason for femininity, especially prevalent in the recent decades. Your forget the sociological factors, which include trends and branding on how to be and act if you like men. The third factor which you willingly won't mention is the conditioned fetishes and ways of thinking pushed on our youth today. It is not just as simple that they are born that way, no they are also molded that way.
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>>139691298
I do not prefer to lick pussy.
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>>139691365
You need to cite your source.
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>>139691382
I did, the source of idiocy was you.
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>>139678888
Quads eh?
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>>139686366
We're talking about human biology, not yours, leaf
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>>139676840
My biggest fetish is manicured toes, I need to work on it tho
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>>139676840
To my mind homosexual men are not corrupt, but merely womanish the make up a third kind of sex.
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>>139691367
Okay, so can we talk about the split now?
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>>139686446
Your parents accepted you in any form, and you came out ok.

Your friend was dropkick forced into a box and found gay to be a taboo, sort of as defiance a fetish emerged.
Being in a family never means everyone is treated equally.?
Did your friend get bullied?
Was he the on made fun of by his brothers?
Was he a shut in?
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The woman who needs to be liberated most is the woman in every man, and the man that needs to liberated most is the man in every woman.
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>>139689444
If I remember rightly, what people tend to call fetishism would better be described as partialism
But fetish sounds kinkier
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>>139691902
Not necessarily
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>>139691836
What about 'non-binary'. At what point do you assimilate? When do you stand alone? Ever fell off a mountain top...that's called appeasement.
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>>139676840
I've struggled with porn addiction off and on,
Spend 60 days away from it
you'll feel 100% normal

The desire to piss yourself inside a diaper while jacking of a faggot and sucking a cock while being pissed on by a fat woman who is eating shit from a black midget woman who is squirting on a black man who is being raped by a donkey is no where near the real of normal.

All men should be able to pop boners at the first natural smell of a woman with out all the perverted shit
All of these fantasies take away from your true masculine identity and make you weak

Just give up the porn and in 90 days women will find you more attractive when you start acting like a regular person and not some horny faggot around them

Hope this helps

pic related
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>>139692146
Nonsense
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>>139691902
>wanting to get a footjob = partialism
>wanting your gf to be 100 feet tall = fetish
Did I get that right?
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>>139692000
Checked
And IDK what to call them, if fetish is exclusive of being able to watch/inagine normal sex to jack it

English is a fucked-up Franken(((stein))) language
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>>139692146
Just sounds like you're a fuck up, desu.
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>>139691555
Btw women feet not mine of course
Are straight fetishes degenerate?
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>>139692146
Relinquish your sadomasochistic delight in the pain of self-denial
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>>139676840
>How can I restrain myself from my fetishes/fantasies , when it is so easy to give in?

Why would you want to restrain yourself unless that's your fetish? Go nuts, see what happens.
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>>139682986
Then what do i do if i dont watch porn and just have sex with my boyfriend?
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Nope, Homosexuality is not genetic.

You have to consider that evolution punishes genes that decrease the chances of reproduction. Gays in their natural state of "being gay" cannot reproduce. So their genes are 100% culled.

Now consider that far-human ancestors once had tails like a spider monkey. What are the chances of being culled for a long tail? 0.0001%?

And yet - long tails were culled from the human genepool. But we are expected to believe that somehow genes that are close to 100% culled still exist?

Anyones who asserts that homosexuality is genetic, doesn't know anything about genetics.
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>>139692353
Stop committing psychic self-mutilation love is love you will only fail to enjoy a full life if you fail to understand this.
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>>139676840
It is genetic, a genetic defect.
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>>139692630
Can you explain what you mean??
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>>139692146
I've just had a moment of clarity
>we're all here arguing over making our sexualities normal
>on a site where being normal is an insult

Why are we trying to become normies?
REEEEEEEEEE?

>>139692286
I dunno man, I dunno...
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>>139692630
False. The Greeks have four words for love.

Agape
Eros
Philia
Storge

Love has magnitudes. Like Earthquakes.
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Homosexuality is just a fetish. There's nothing any more special about it than foot fetish.

Yet gays are celebrated, and foot fetishists are "perverts" (foot fetish being more common than homosexuality in the male population)
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>>139692708
Love is a conflict between reflexes and reaction anything else is a bunch of anti-hedonist exaggeration and unorthodox to nature.
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>>139692613
>what are recessive genes
Anyone who asserts that gay genes would die out, doesn't know anything about genetics
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>>139692794
>I dunno man, I dunno...
The problem with "partialism" is that it's blurry what exactly that entails. According to the definition, anything other than penis and vagina sex would be partialism, which precludes titjobs, handjobs, blowjobs, anal, pitjobs, and all other kinds of relatively normal sexual habits.
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>>139692813
>agape
Those kinky greeks, man
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>>139676840
I was in a relationship for 2 years recently. I retained most of my degenerate fetishes from porn use through the entire relationship. I didn't use the internet for porn frequently during that relationship because we didn't have internet where we lived. After I broke up with her, I tried to not use porn very often and just hook up with other women instead. Trying to abstain may or may not have had something to do with triggering manic bipolar eccentric behavior. Eventually I reverted back to porn and isolation because trainwreck whores are too stressful. My mentally ill behavior and delusions went away after I binged on porn and got proper sleep.
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>>139692813
Who cares what the Greeks think love is?
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>>139692934
My brain reacts to seeing nice looking feet
Its a reflex. I feel degenerate
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>>139693291
Linguists and historians.
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>>139693065
>pitjobs
Kek, is that really a relatively normal thing?
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>>139692353
>Are straight fetishes degenerate?
Depends, you can be straight and totally be a pedo or cuck. That being said I would say you are okay.
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>>139693292
As a Jew I encourage to flaunt your predilections,and emancipate yourself from the sexual limitations laid down by Christianity
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>>139693463
I don't know, I've never had sex, but I'm sure there's plenty of people who would like their gf to jack them off using their armpits.
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>>139677547

Thanks m8. Any other valuable resources. I'm addicted to some fucked up fetishes and I need help
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>>139677855
>http://archive.is/1s0i6

Even in this, the genetic correlation seems really fucking low:

Next, “the Australian study by Bailey et al conducted in 2000” mentioned in the article is also found in the same section of the Wikipedia article! (How convenient!) According to Wikipedia, [4] “In 2000, Bailey, Dunne and Martin found similar results from a larger sample of 4,901 Australian twins. They found 20% concordance in the male identical twins and 24% concordance for the female identical twins” – much higher than the respective 11% and 14% claimed in the article.

20% in identical twins in a 4000+ study? That's pretty much conclusive that being gay is not genetic. There has to be some societal/environmental factor at play.
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>>139678405
Yes quality sources indeed >>139677855
>http://archive.is/1s0i6
If you are going to attack sources retard, you better make sure your own aren't thinkprogess / pinko gay websites.
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>>139693592
Yes
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>>139694022
Uh, there are many studies that have found higher rates. Obviously he is choosing the ones that found the lowest.
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>>139693419
How are they relevant?
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>>139693419
So far the best argument you've formed are a series of Ad-hominem so give it your all this time.
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>>139694702
In what world is history irrelevant to you?
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>>139695101
Where did I say History with context is irrelevant? Think hard about this one
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Tick tock
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>>139695581

>139694472
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>>139695798
I get really bored waiting for you to articulate a response
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>>139679841
But then when some part of his life will boring ex. unemployement, depression, etc. He will remember the time he would get joy from some homoerotic fantasy and pounce on it with a masturbation session and even with the help of the internet perhaps
It is going to take everything that he's got not to relapse
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>>139695877
I am using your argument against you. That's my response.
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>>139695993
What exactly do you mean?
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>>139677302
There's no evidence here, only guesswork.

Just admit that homsexuality is a fetish like any other.
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>>139696072
Holy shit. SAGE
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>>139696155
Nope read my post on this topic
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>>139677547
This will unlikely be useful to faggots, as they are quite likely to have been sexually molested as a child and need proper therapy and counselling.
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>>139685208
Why is two people attacking this guy when he is redpilling people about xenoestrogens
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>>139686247
You wouldnt say that about womens if one you liked liked you back albeit this is what I am assuming
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>>139688552
I like when you said liberalism was made by jews to ruin the white race. Spoken so purely that its just plain true.
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>>139688916
I ONLY like fat people. But with firmness and never with skinny arms, shoulders, or legs and have to have butts n bootycracks that go up to their lower back. None of that half-ass. The end the story of me
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It's time to suppress sexuality again. Much more productive that way.
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>>139676840
>tattoo
Warm up those ovens!
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>>139677302
Fuck off fucking liar those studies are literally all frauds and pseudoscience
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>>139679526
WELL THAT ESCALATED QUICKLY
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>>139677302
>homosexuality gene
Confirmed for non-argument. It's not Tay Sachs, it isn't "literally one gene(s)", it can be gene-gene interaction. To act as if environmental effects are inconsequential to forming sexual bonds is not a viewpoint grounded in reality, seeing as how humans are social animals within social confines/moulded by mass media.
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>>139680886
Most likely, it is environmental+genetic, to varying degrees.
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>>139682161
Gays don't deserve rights, the entire sexual orientation is dysgenic and must be ostracized from society for polluting same-sex relations. They can never have children who are related to the individual and his/her partner, by definition of what it means to be male/female. Behaviours that stunt the growth of a population, especially one as hedonistic as homosexuality, must be removed.
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>>139699886
So when you ostracize people and they have poorer health outcomes as a result, who is then responsible?
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>>139699992
You remove the tumour from society not because you wish to give it a nice home outside of the hostile environment of the body, but because you want to destroy it.
Also, your argument relies on some institutional, wide-spread anti-gay agenda that has significant detriment to the development and functioning skills of homosexuals in Western society. The overt bias and thought-control of 'homophobia' demonstrates otherwise. Therefore, the conspiratorial "we are in poor shambles because 'muh society' made me poz the neghole" is dismissed.
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>>139676840
It's a purely based on dominance and submission within the social hierarchy based on ability to attract.

Modern perversions have convoluted and cloaked this truth but it is merely a dominant male asserting his dominance over a lesser male, in nature it also applies to younger males being degraded or held down by elder males lower on the hierarchy caste.

It's purely a product of hierarchy assertion, power dynamics and perversion.
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