Has pop music made the West degenerate?

Most pop isn't even music. It's syncopation and imagery that makes the lizard brain tingle. You have maybe a handful of people with true Michael Jackson tier talent in the barrel. The basic test is if you can listen to the song 3 times and still enjoy it as much as the first time.

>>139665322
Nope, it make people think others accept that
its like seein all those shill nazi threads here and people thinking we are nazi

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>>139665322

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Not at all

>>139665322
Its tough to say if pop music causes degeneracy or its the product of degeneracy. What seems to happen is that pop artists have high quality, non-degenerate music when they start out (see early Taylor Swift albums) and then (((they))) start managing them and it turns degenerate. So music probably just a tool in their plan.

>>139667165
It's not even a problem with (((them))), it's basic marketing.
Pop stars peter out after a while, so to revitalize their brand they have to slut themselves up, make themselves edgy and controversial. Because the people who follow them have the attention spans of moths and don't remember the last 20 times other pop stars did the exact same thing so it's always new and exciting.

>>139667716
You can even track the progression every time
>Pop star comes on scene, relatively normal
>Gets edgy to attract a fresh set of fans
>Reforms to attract another set of fans

>>139666781
For some reason, I can't even masturbate to this shit. She's way too degenerate. At least have some shame when you're pissing in public. The shame is what's hot.

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>>139665322
damn does she looks good in that pic

bitch needs to shave those legs

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>>139665322
>Was pop the main driving force behind the sexual revolution?
It is one of MANY tools they used/use.

It's about (((their))) globalist agenda. They want to run a prison planet of race-less, culture-less, nation-less, identity-less subdued sheep. They make up less than 1% of the world's population, yet look at all they control from the world's finances to the media that brainwashes us.

In short, they use the entertainment and news media to encourage globalism and discourage nationalism and traditional western values. They distort and lie about the present and past in that effort.

The truth about immigration, by the numbers:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE

Cultural Marxist Jews Admit Organizing White Genocide

The plan to eliminate the white race:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOgkGzMdieI

Cultural Marxism in action… Political Correctness, the tip of the blade:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6c_dinY3fM

Cultural Marxism & Social Justice Explained:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnqIj8C2Aek

Why are we in Decline - Cultural Marxism:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VggFao85vTs

Leftist subversion explained by former KGB agent Yuri Bezmenov:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hWYgPDVX_8

also see

The facts about slavery in North America:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5tci36bNjg
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFHa4db3hA0
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A94smJ9QJ5g

Cultural Marxist Jews fund media propaganda against whites on an enormous scale:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvNNtBmA3SQ

Does this sound familiar at all? (starting at 6:52)
>https://youtu.be/kPdxhLUKZYM?list=PLo0ThsDnveH5nv5TNviBrGTX9P6IrYfIe&t=412

The Holocaust:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPc899uUb-A
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgGP_evkvOk
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxpIsep4160

>>139665322
does anybody honestly think this short haired little gay boy looks good?

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>>139668193
It's funny how world famous country singers have kids that are famous Disney stars that grow up to be good looking in pics

>>139665322
MCyrus is a good example for you NatSocs
>Talented singer, intelligent girl
>Shows her pussy on stage, smokes serious drugs, engages in multiple degeneracies because no one wants to watch a pretty girl sing a song well
She was chosen Democratically.
The people have spoken and what they want is:
>pussy grabbing
>young girls doing drugs
>lesbianism
>immature female butt bent over on stage 'twerking'
She is literally LARPing child porn

>>139665322
i just had to beat off because of that picture. thanks asshole. i got cum all over the place.. you are part of the problem

>>139668397
OY VEY DELET THIS RIGHT NOW GOY

>>139668397
Shit, man, it's been a while. Where you been? Have I just been missing you or something?

We should have a betting pool on when we will see MC suck dick on stage.

>>139668101
>For some reason, I can't even masturbate to this shit. She's way too degenerate.
This desu. She's way past the point of sexy, and too far into "literally a 5$ whore"-territory.

>>139668101
>The shame is what's hot.
You are now aware this is why we all watch anime. There is nothing worth watching in western media.

>>139668397
Here comes the autist

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Nope. Tumblr did it.
Tumblr & Marissa Mayer.

>>139665322
>>139665930

Yes because normies don't think critically and just repeat/copy the values that are presented to them in physically pleasing packages -- aka a sound their ears like by a sexually attractive person. That's all pop is, 100% style and 0% substance.

Normies get their cues from these songs which only ever talk about shallow things like sex and just being materially successful. (Nothing wrong with sex or material success but it's devoid of actual meaning in these cases). It doesn't encourage critical thinking, responsibility, etc and programs normies basically to do whatever the fuck the programmer wants.

I'm probably not making sense or a good case here. I've always just noticed how the normies seem to get their ideas from pop music or popular TV shows and are so... dependent on them, like they refuse to go against them.

>>139669491
There's a webm of a 1 dollar blowjob on /gif/ right now, and it might be the most disenheartening thing I've ever seen

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>>139669682
Here have this, its Hillary & Bernie approved.

>>139667716

>Because the people who follow them have the attention spans of moths and don't remember the last 20 times other pop stars did the exact same thing so it's always new and exciting.

Well it's also a matter of generations. The people listening to the New Miss Degenerate were kids when the last Miss Degenerate imploded from degeneracy. The older generation notices the pattern, the younger one is still clueless and susceptible to it.

>>139665322
Payola/ Programming and the Big 6. When all distribution goes through one conglomerate kind of hard to compete. IF you can compete they assimilate you via dividends.

>>139668101
>>139669491
Short hair do that to a woman

>>139665322
i am very much into music

and I can tell you that this nicky minaj sort of music is literally more dissonant than any weird ass modern metal music

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you guys are such geeks

>>139665322
Andy Warhol pop-art culture was the start of all degeneracy. And he was a fag and a child fucker, of course.

>>139665322
https://youtu.be/g_gRCOfZ8BI
The sexual impulse is probably the greatest drive for most. Therefore control of it allows one to control the future of a population, which is dependent on healthy procreation to survive. Progressive liberalism thrives on the sexually demoralized because pleasure has taken the place of fulfillment through reproduction to continue your genetic heritage. The future of your family and people no longer matter as long as you can feel good in the short term.

>>139672407
yes but my man
the problem is
people don't have anything to do anymore...

seriously our essientials are all coming from big fabrics that are running from themselves pretty much
women don't even need to clean clothes anymore, they just put it inside the waching machine

i can almost understand that people are falling into "degeneracy" because what else to they have to do around here?

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It's part of the 200 year plot by the British/French Freemason Cult to subvert American Independence and dominate the U.S. by subverting their value-system; a value system which opposes the ideological-system of the British Death Cult, which would make the U.S. as a state a threat to their empire.

The British Masons who hijacked the Revolutionary War with their Mason Agents like George Washington have already got most of the braindead normie scumbag retard heads of business/politics/police/military over to their ideology side via Freemasonry.

Now they want to infect the entire population with their MTV-kike psy-operation using the dindu-retards, jewish-whores(lady gaga) & white-trash-mutant-retards(miley cyrus) to full subvert the value-system of the U.S.

It is the Freemason cult which hijacked the Revolutionary War to get the U.S. to put their rifles away who are behind all of the faggotry, immigration & hyper-degeneracy in this country.

This is the ultimate red-pill.

The one that threatens the lives of those who take it.

"The Revolutionary War" will go on for as long as the criminal British/French Death Cult (Freemasonry) exists.

>>139672949
A modern conundrum that will be answered out of necessity to survive. As humanity develops problems arise until they inspire a reaction aiming to fix what has gone wrong. There's hope for the future by learning our weaknesses.

also related to this thread
theres a conspiracy, i can't find a source now directly but theres the assumption that CIA ran tests at beatles / rolling stones concerts, with laughing gas and stuff like that
to see if girls would all go crazy and think the people they're looking at are gods
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOcYTOBA0CI
this was discussed here on /pol/ some years ago

>>139665322
>attending summer classes at Temple University
>taking "human sexuality" as humanities elective
>first day of class I am picked out of a hat to lead a class discussion on the teacher's topic
>teacher proceeds to show video of pic related (but she was wearing green i think)
>I start the discussion off saying it's ok for someone to do this, but not when its a crowd of kids and there are giant teddybears and stuff... I explained how this is more of an exposure than education.
>everyone in the class agrees with me
>teacher is very angry but quiet (she looks like a fat Anita Sarkeesian
>the rest of the semester is propaganda that men should become women.
>die a little inside and quit
I hate Universities! I am literally wasting my GI Bill

No you've got it wrong way round, pop is degenerate because the west is.

>>139675440
I remember when this was on the radio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vygQZ9hYqyE
and it was great mane

>>139674943

Hopefully you're actually aiming for a useful degree and not some liberal arts bullshit. Everyone has to go through the SJW propaganda but goal is to get through university without becoming one.

>>139674943
Temple Owls are everywhere, Owlfag.

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Reminder that if you AREN'T listening to Dance With The Dead you don't belong on /pol/ and you AREN'T white either.

https://youtu.be/rnA66aYZHP8

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>>139665322
According to pics related Muh yes

>>139665322
Pop music has always been degenerate. It's inherent in the genre. Empty, manufactured, saccharine lyrics dumbed down enough to appeal to the masses; the lowest common denominator is the primary target. Pop music has always appealed to our basest instincts; if there's any difference it's that it's now just more blatant about it.

>>139675957
>>139676077
This was in 2014
I have a BS in Health Science, BS in Nuclear engineering technology, MS in Exercise Science, and MS in political science international affairs. All from New York Universities

>>139676407
>I have a BS in Health Science, BS in Nuclear engineering technology, MS in Exercise Science, and MS in political science international affairs. All from New York Universities
Man
my dad works at nintendo, you interested in job?

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>>139665322
>Amazing Discoveries™ is a registered non-profit organization in Canada and the US (501c3) committed to exposing deceptions and errors in the religious realm, history, science, media, and health. We accomplish this mission through seminars around the world, as well as through publications and broadcasting via internet, radio, and television. Our material attempts to provide life-changing information and to reveal evidence that allows people to make better decisions for their lives.

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>>139672245
Fucking comble soup

>>139665322
(((Pop Culture))) is Jewish anti-culture.

Classical music and art is still being made in the West. Do you hear about it? Of course not. All you hear about is who is fucking who, the latest niggerbeats album, and feminists squiring period blood all over canvas. A white guy who spends a year carving marble into a life-like human facsimile will never get the coverage some kike or shabbos goy will get for making a clay sculpture of a guy sucking his own dick.

>>139666612 fuck off

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>>139677199
Well it depends if you a fag well yes

>>139677199
BASED

>>139677495
KYS

>>139665322
>Music directly imitates the passions or states of the soul

Then it's pretty obvious that the West is responsible for degeneracy in pop music

>>139669669
>we all
speak for yourself kiddo

>>139665322
WOULD FUCK IN THE ASS

>>139665322
We're already in a new era for Miley Cyrus, though. I don't think she will be twerking, anymore, thankfully.

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>>139665322
No, video pornography did.

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>>139665322
>TFW I still want to fuck Miley

I know she's probably fucked a lot of people, but now she's settling and down and being a "good girl". I'm jealous of her fiance, he gets to fuck her and sleep with her every night.

>>139665322
It was a mix of pop music and many other forms of media brainwashing.

>>139666781
This is my first time seeing this photo, wonder who took it? Also wonder why she wasn't wearing pants in the first place?

>>139665322
The main driving force behind the sexual revolution is birth control

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>>139666781
>Miley will never piss on your Panamera's wheels

>>139674943
>I hate Universities! I am literally wasting my GI Bill
>Willing to fight and die for your country.
>Come home to realize your country has been subverted from the inside.

At least you are on the right path.

>>139680071
>tattoo'd used up whore.
>lucky

>>139665322
No.

it's all fun and easy to blame a genre of music for "degredating the west" but in truth the ideas of the time simply shifted. The ideas of The government being useful to you, fell apart and people in their self doubt of their own leaders, also broke their bonds on their parent's ideas. Of course a rebellious youth has always been commonplace in human society. So this made the rebellion more radical. Music reflected the times of doubt. And that reflection of times of doubt established "laws" to music that is still popular today.

Then the worst part is mainstream hit, and despite being "rebellious" and "radical" all of the music sounded the same and created what can only be described as COMPLETE SHITE

>>139685655
You could have just said "Jews."

What is that music video with the old man being bumped by two young party going gentlemen, one of which takes a fedora which is knocked off the old man's head, whom walk into a cyber style disco light bar with music and engage in dancing and hedonistic activity with one another, while this old man stands outside alone with a stolen belonging and his cane also knocked down in the process, and he can not bend over to get up where he glances into see the scenario arising with the two men dancing, then proceeding to having a flashback of when he was a Soviet soldier during the USSR's campaign against Nazi Germany and could very well be the reason as to why he cannot lean down and pick up the cane, and is eventually handed it back to him by a young little girl after the flashbacks stop probably caused by the loud music and lights flashing and people thrashing?

>>139686656
this touches upon degeneracy versus traditional values

>>139665322
Reminder that jews own the music industry

>>139680827
that's a cayenne

>>139665322
Today's pop stars don't do anything that yesterday's more hedonistic rock bands didn't. You're gonna have to go back a lot further than Miley Cyrus to find the roots of degeneracy.

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>>139665322
Not a driving force. Just a car being driven.

>>139665322
dont piss on me miley

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>>139687427

>>139668193
Looks like a 12 year old boy, there's nothing attractive about this forced whore.

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>>139686849

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>>139671776
>1776 get

>>139686744
>>139665322
>>139671776
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSPG0Tm1vwI

>>139665322
>>139686744
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSPG0Tm1vwI

>>139669805
I saw a video on r/cumsluts or something of some chick who invites two guys over for a three-way. Until the actual fucking, she just mugs for the camera; strip teasing, smacking her ass, etc. The two dudes just sit in the background fucking around on their phones. I couldn't even make it to the fucking, the whole thing was tawdry, empty, and soulless.

>>139665322
tbf, miley is hot as shit and i want to gene graft on a pony's cock and fuck the liberalism out of her.

>>139669804
I think you did a nice job anon. I agree with you.

>>139689301
>waaah why didn't they get right to the closeups of their dicks and balls
faggot detected

>>139665322
I'm sorry. I can't here you over my Beethoven collection.

>>139666781

I wonder if (((E-News))) will cover this one? Oh wait..

>>139666781
wtf is wrong with her? I bet her dad fucked her, right? Or some old creepy Disney guys when she was young.

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>>139671776
>1776

Nice get Ameribro

TayTay just trying to fix a little wedge or scratch her butt. Not a dance move

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>>139665322
Wheres the dick?

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>Noo what degenerated the west was its laws
>Not enough balance some laws were raised while others were not
>Jwalking was raised higher
Spray painting stayed the same
>1000 years later
Jwalking is now death sentence

Be very carefull there are wabbets around

>>139665322
Yep

Can't find it on youtube as I forgot the name, but there was a video made on how a certain beat "high" of songs of the 50's and 60's has been repeated so much that it is now a part of 65% of the pop songs and in a way we are literally listening to the same song over and over again.

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>>139696891
Amen break.

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Popular music is 99% about glorification of insemination.

That's it.

>>139665322
>EMI:
Roger Faxon(White) – CEO
Shane Naughton(White) – CEO
David Kassler(Jew) – CEO

>Live Nation Entertainment:
Michael Rapino(Jew) – President and Chief Executive Officer
Irving Azoff(Jew) – Executive Chairman
Arthur Fogel(Jew) – Chairman, Global Music; Chief Executive Officer

>Sony Music Entertainment:
Rolf Schmidt-Holtz(Jew) – Chief Executive Officer
Kevin Kelleher(Jew) – Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer
Clive Davis(Jew) – Chief Creative Officer

>Universal Music Group:
Doug Morris(Jew) – Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
Lucian Grainge(Jew) – Co-Chief Executive Officer
Zach Horowitz(Jew) – President & Chief Operating Officer

>Warner Music Group:
Edgar Bronfman, Jr.(Jew) – Chairman and CEO
Lyor Cohen(Jew) – Vice Chairman and Chairman and CEO
Michael Fleisher(Jew) – Vice Chairman, Strategy and Operations

>Alliance of Artists and Recording Companies:
Linda R. Bocchi(White) – Executive Director
Mike Stern(Jew) – Director of Royalties
Bree Dietrich(Jew) – Deputy Director of Royalties

>American Association of Independent Music:
Jim Cooperman(Jew) – Board of Directors
Dan Hoffman(Jew) – Board of Directors
Tom Silverman(Jew) – Board of Directors

>American Federation of Musicians:
Ray Hair(White) – International President
Bruce Fife(White) – International Vice President
Bill Skolnik(Jew) – Vice President from Canada

>American Society of Composers, Authors, and Publishers:
Paul Williams(White) – President and Chairman
John LoFrumento(White) – CEO
Fred Koenigsberg(Jew) – Counsel to the Board

>Broadcast Music Incorporated:
Del Bryant(White) – President and CEO
Richard Conlon(White) – Senior Vice President
Michael O’Neill(White) – Senior Vice President


cont'd (1/2)

cont'd (2/2)

>Harry Fox Agency (HFA):
Gary L. Churgin(Jew) – President and CEO
Maurice Russell(Negro) – Senior Vice President
Michael Simon(Jew) – Senior Vice President

>National Academy of Recording Arts and Sciences:
Neil Portnow(Jew) – President and CEO
Kristen Madsen(Jew) – Senior Vice President
Scott Goldman(Jew) – Vice President

>National Association of Recording Merchandisers:
Jim Donio(Jew) – President
Holly Rosum(Jew) – Director
Rachelle Friedman(Jew) – Chairman
>National Music Publishers Association:
David Israelite(Jew) – President & CEO
Leeds Levy(Jew) – Member, Board of Directors
David Renzer(Jew) – Member, Board of Directors

>Recording Industry Association of America:
Mitch Bainwol(Ashkenazi Jew) – Chairman and CEO
Cary Sherman(Ashkenazi Jew) – President

>Society of European Stage Authors & Composers:
Stephen Swid(Jew) – Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
Freddie Gershon(Jew) – Co-Chairman
Ira Smith(Jew) – Co-Chairman

>SoundExchange:
John L. Simson(Jew) – Executive Director
Barrie Kessler(Jew) – Chief Operating Officer
Michael J. Huppe(Jew) – Executive Vice President

Of the fifty(50) senior executives of the major music labels and trade organizations, thirty-nine(39) are Jews. This is a numerical representation of 78%. Ask you Jewish overlords why music, like so many other industries, has become a cesspit of filth and degeneracy.

>>139665322
no. the frankfurt school was nigger

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>>139696891
>>139698823

But there's Jungle, genre turns the Amen-break into near classical/jazz style complexity again (constant varying of the beat) over rehashed ragga crap. And then it was too advanced for the brainlets so they turned it into the boring (((drum n bass))).

https://youtu.be/aEQkLgXZb4U

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>>139700255
>Popular music is 99% about glorification of insemination.
>That's it.

Well, generally speaking that IS the most efficient way to drop someone out of their higher reasoning state, and into basic instincts...

People in the throes of instinct can't plan for shit.

pic related; it's an ancient psych warfare manual.

>>139668101
Wew lawd this, Debauchery can only go so far for me, like yeah I'm down to fuck you in public and then have ppl watch as you suck me off, but I'm not down to do some gross shit like piss in public while hitting a pose.