Intel

>>139590804
If I have no harddrives and no OS what exactly would be the point in them gaining access

>>139590925
>they can't hack you if you have no computer

>>139590804
relevant
http://blog.ptsecurity.com/2017/08/disabling-intel-me.html

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>>139590925
it's just an example to make you understand that there is nothing you can do to prevent their access. your operating system, or encryption or anything else you can do, won't matter.

>>139590804
Ryzen 5 1600 here so no worries

>>139590993
>relevant
yeah it's good progress, but if you actually read it, you'd know that you still can't disable ME

>>139591002


what if you arn't connected to the internet, or could you not just monitor network traffic and block it tsending / recieving data

>>139591086
>or could you not just monitor network traffic and block it tsending / recieving data
again, none of that shit goes through the main system. you can't intercept or block anything.

>>139591042
>So we have found an undocumented PCH strap that can be used to switch on a special mode disabling the main Intel ME functionality at an early stage.

>Hence HAP protects against vulnerabilities present in all modules except RBE, KERNEL, SYSLIB, ROM, and BUP. However, unfortunately this mode does not protect against exploitation of errors at earlier stages.

reducing it down to the kernel and CPU booting modules is a good start

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>>139591086
>what if you arn't connected to the internet
that only works if your computer is physically nowhere near any other device.

https://www.wired.com/2016/06/clever-attack-uses-sound-computers-fan-steal-data/

>>139591153
>reducing it down to the kernel and CPU booting modules is a good start
it still shuts down the computer after 30 minutes. but yes, at least there is some progress. until intel updates the bios and makes it impossible yet again

>>139591130
It doesnt matter if it goes through the main OS or not. You can monitor network traffic from the router, any data that is being sent or recieved has to pass through the router first, which would allow you to pick up on it and isolate it

>>139591240
no, it doesn't. you clearly haven't read the post.

>>139591203
if you're being hit by that sort of thing, you need to adjust the entire structure of your security setup to compensate. the ME alone won't do anything significant if someone is dropping million dollar zero days on your arse.

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reminder, don't fall for the (((bitcoin))) meme either.

>>139591340
routers also have hardware backdoors mate. read vault7 leaks.

>>139591203

https://unvis.it/wired.com/2016/06/clever-attack-uses-sound-computers-fan-steal-data

>>139591390
Bit too conspiracy for my liking.


>computers have back doors
Oh so just do this

>no no, you can't do that they have backdoors too
Oh ok so do this

> oh no you can do that, they have backdoors for that too

Fuck off.

>>139591588
>Bit too conspiracy for my liking.
what the fuck do you mean? Vault7 has proofs you idiot. it's not a conspiracy theory when it's fucking proven.

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>>139591588
>Fuck off.
you're just telling me that you want to BELIEVE that things are better than they are. Intel has ME, and your router also has microprocessors, can't you fucking realize that maybe that shit is in there too? at least fucking read vault7 before you dismiss shit because you want to be comfy believing in a lie.

>>139590804
No. I unironically run a Pentium II.

Thanks for spreading the info, though.

>>139591775
do you use a modern router? see vault7 for info on which brands are confirmed (hardware)backdoor'd

>>139591655
>computers are magic so just give up goy
fuck off

>>139591745
>at least fucking read vault7
vault 7 was a release of CIA tools designed to be delivered and maintained by CIA agents. there are no remote tools in vault 7. the existence of vault 7 isn't even a credible argument, since for those tools to be used you would have to have a CIA agent digging through your underwear.

>>139591655
>wikileaks
>credible

One moment while I stop laughing.

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>>139591002
>not getting a lenovo x200 and deleting the gbe descriptor to disable the ME
pleb

>>139591009
AMD chips have a PSP. Only pre-2013 amd chips don't have it.

>>139591588
Run older equipment. I have an old Cisco firewall/VPN portal.

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Which cpu's aren't jewish anyway?

>>139591855
>vault 7 was a release of CIA tools
no you retard, that was only part of it. there was also documentation on which hardware manufacturers had NSA backdoors built into their devices.

>>139591864
more credible than the cucks in here.

>>139591898
AMD CPU from 2012 or earlier.

>>139591848
Yes, but I run it through a late 90's Cisco network security appliance/VPN portal, whichever i have hooked to a popular VPN service. Unused or unnecessary ports blocked. Well versed in the vault7 leaks and constantly alerting people as to the implications, with subtlety. Every device in the house has been secured as much as possible, Windows 10 on a separate drive for workplace continuity, hooked to a Core 2. No webcams. No smart TVs.

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>>139590804
yes. why do you think your HDD & network lights flicker even if the computer has been idle for hours?

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>>139590804
What about Russian Elbrus Cpu?

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>>139592338

>>139591898
STM32 32 Mhz CPU

>>139591588
The Intel ME has a tcp/ip stack and ring0 system integration. It can read instructions or the ram bus and spit it out over TCP. The newer ME is completely a black box with wireless chipset communication and coordination.

The ME also has board spi and serial bus communication. Scariest of all it can be rewrite with a simple signed system microcode update to monitor whatever.

Sadly ARM has Trustzone and AMD has PSP so either way you are screwed.
That is why I use such old 2010 hardware.

>>139592391
You might consider mentioning the more popular name of Intel vPro as well in these generals.

>>139592541
>>139592391

Any one of you want to comment on Russian cpu?>>139592338

>>139591009
(((NEW RYZEN CHIP)))

>>139592338
It's vaporware. Secure systems are air gaped ones.

To this present day, military-president urgent memos are paper delivered. Can't hack a courier and a chain of custody.

>>139592819
Stick around a minute, I'm not familiar.

>>139593113
>Can't hack a courier and a chain of custody.
you wanna bet?

>t. hitman working for clintons

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Fucking jews...
Why are they doing this?

>>139593234
From quick reading of specs and some brushing on design, looks about as powerful as 4 Pentium III's, or perhaps a P4HT. I use a Pentium II for my daily needs without issue, but run older or light O/S. Your needs may vary, but I wouldn't run games or anything other than Linux on it.

>>139593532
>human
are you a bot?

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>>139593302
With computers information is very liquid and the data can drips through the cracks very easily.

Physical media not so much.
Same with Air Gaped Computers. You contain your messy liquidy data to your own little pond instead of giving it a channel to flow out to the sea.

This is why I have a USB Armoury and Intel compute stick. They are my air gaped processors that only touch my air gaped x200 laptop (contained within my LAN with access to my 10tb NAS.)

>>139590804
Oh man. That sucks. Now they're gonna know I order dominos every weekend and still play emulated snes games. I guess I'm fucked.

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What if Intel is building giant botnet to run AI on it?

If every processor can be accessed remotely, then avary computer and device connected to the network can be part of a botnet. However this Intel botnet is AI's neural network.

>>139590804
i will next time i buy a cpu i mainly use my computer for shit like cubase and play roguelikes i dont care if kikes are watching

>>139590804
i have Q9650 3.0 gh running how bad it is ?

>>139593762
Just because you care less about your person right to privacy doesn't mean it should be violated overall. As a software developer for investment bots we are constantly facing intrusion attempts. Luckily we keep our code on tapes in a vault tape player via a airgaped nonstandard system with no USB or IP support via floppy disk exports.

lol

>>139593700
No.

Well, yes. I'm a sperg. I logical machine.

>>139594065
>Q9650
What fucking year is it in poolan?

>>139594065
You're good. i3 and up have the ME or vPro technology. Core 2 is "safe" as long as you're not running wangblows 10

>>139594246
one in which we didn't took any refugee :^)

>>139594165
For added security, use an outdated(80's or early 90's) file format too. That'll fuck 'em

>>139590804
I'd rather use jew backdoors than amd trash.

>>139591358
>estimated 1 million bitcoins
nigga he's barely clinging on to 150k-1mil USD which keeps getting him into trouble.

He's fucked

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>>139594514
shalom my fellow aryan

>>139590804
TempleOS protects you from CIA niggers

>>139594674
top kek

>>139590804
Date of first CPUs with this fitted?

>>139594803
intel.com

>>139593834
AWS + Google + Facebook data centers have enough compute power combined to simulate the number of human neurons in real time.

The biggest problem is managing such a large compute task across 100 million processors.

We will like be able to do it once 4nm dies have reached a large market saturation. Instead of 100 million processors roughly 10 million processors will be needed to simulate a human mind in real time.

The current problem in AI is freeform vs skeletalform learning. Once we are able to evolve a form of genetic inheritance for the Work to overlay we should be able to grow intelligence from a syntactical meta structure.

Sentient AI will be reached within our lifetimes. At that point we wouldn't call it AI, we call it SI (Synthetic Intelligence.) Then the rise of corporate cybernetic BOOM begins.

>>139593834
That's not even that tinfoil. A friend of mine works on their neural networks stuff, and I always get spooky vibes when it comes up. NDAs up the ass etc.

>>139594803
https://libreboot.org/faq.html

>>139594868
>NDAs up the ass etc.
yup, always. if only you'd know what the company I work at is working on..

>>139594964
Yeah. I'm going into machine learning now. I want to be spooky too.

>>139594803
vPro. Core i3 and up.

>>139595028
>machine learning
nah, that ain't shit. don't worry.

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>>139594837
Time to plan The Exit

>>139595051
>>139594931

Got nothing that new but good to know about.

>>139595330

this

>>139595330
>implying Uganda has computers

>>139595330
oh i am sure that NSA is itching all over to see what's inside of some random autist from 4 chan

they want surveliance data to research one's mind and controll it by changing his surroundings and to do this they need mass propaganda

>>139590804
No one's going to buy your shitty Ryzen, m8

>>139595640
germany fines people for tweets. how long before /pol/acks are fucked over?

>>139595696
thankfully our government does not have money for retarded things
and even if they would have that kind of funds they would fuck this up
see "Cyfryzacja of ZUS"

>>139595957
>thankfully our government does not have money for retarded things
fines give the government money, it doesn't cost more money than it brings in.

also, poland gets LOADS of money from EU

>>139590804
>Do you have israeli made hardware backdoors in your computer?

No, I use Mac and those AMT chips are not included.

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>>139595640
>government sponsored information manipulation
>literally CIS from Ghost In the Shell: SAC 2nd

>>139596094
MAC have intel cpu's

I still think it all started with the first analyst appearing on the world market. trying to figure out what the enemy ( 2nd WW) is doing next.
They failed pretty much. they worked after the war as analysts for companys on the stock market to make future predictions on which stocks rise and fall. After they failed again, they come to that conclousion that the mind of the people is to complex as long as there are so many individuals. It would be easier to make people think specific things to direct them into a directions you want to have them. all that collected data is used and have a enormous worth for those company's. There was once a German writer/journalist who was very good in making predictions through numbers and calculations ... after his last book he died surprisingly on a heart attack.
I don't know much about all that, mostly only through his books, but as he died it was like my mentor died

>>139596152
But there's no hardwiring to network interface and there's no amt.

>>139596037
>it doesn't cost more money than it brings in.
that's not how it works in here xD

>also, poland gets LOADS of money from EU
can we please end this meme ? we are paying more to UE AND we must obey they retarded economical laws that are not allowing for economical freedom
so even if we have more money in gibs they are spent on sustaining what was destroyed because of those lwas

>>139596094
ummm... no. The AMT was chipset baked but now the ME is processor baked since Ivybridge I think.
Unless you are talking powerpc.

Damn why did PowerPC die again?

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>>139596334

>>139596350
>Damn why did PowerPC die again?

They just could not deliver cpu's fast enough.

How about using non-intel motherboard. If there is no vPro and AMT enabled and no direct access to peripherals, then it should be at least more secure.

>>139590804
Yes, i have israeli backdoor, china backdoor (router/smart appliance), and russian backdoor (av/firewall/software) and us backdoor (windows/android).

so if i valuable enough, the other agencies will also know that, so i comfy atm.

>>139596567
Also no. see >>139592391
and >>139594931

ME runs it's own kernel and subprocess, has spi and serial abilities, and a serial ip translation stack.

Only way is to disable some of its storage subsystem from running, or air gaping your system.

>>139597008
>or air gaping your system.

Intel vPro includes secret embedded 3g chip and I'm not even kidding. It is part of the anti-theft features.

>>139596635
this is how i see it too. plus i can poison all the wells at once if they are really interested in my bullshit.

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

i fucking hate people looking at my though :(

>>139591358
this image is so retarded it hurts me
if you are paranoid then just use monero

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>>139597118
See

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>>139597118

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and lastly

>>139597352
>>139597384
>>139597474

Thanks.

That pretty much means Intel users are fucked.

>>139597352
>>139597384
>>139597474
>>139597519
post about the 3g chip on /g/ please

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>you know what has to be done

stop posting this tinfoil bullshit
it's literally impossible to do this outside of lab conditions

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> do it for mom anon

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>so sleepy

>>139590925
they can listen to your mic while your computer is apparently off for one

>>139590804
One more reason to own a Ryzen or a Threadripper.

>>139597917
not tinfoil at all.
But its fixable, ME can be shutdown:
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/hardware/researchers-find-a-way-to-disable-much-hated-intel-me-component-courtesy-of-the-nsa/

>>139594837
not even remotely true.
Even the most advanced general AI is at the level of nematodes.
To create human level AI we would first have to understand I, or NI which we are not even close to.

>>139598175
>they can listen to your mic while your computer is apparently off for one
you do know that speakers work as mics as well right? even if you don't have a microphone, they can still listen

>>139598590
Thank you, based mountain Jew.

>>139598720
this is true ive seen it before

>>139598212
AyyMD also has similar tech to Intlel

Any CPU made after 2012 has a backdoor. Why do you think ThinkPads are so expensive these days ?

>>139598848
>seen it before
I tried it myself. the audio quality is not as good as an actual mic, but it still works

>>139599212
yea it is low quality sound but if you plug headphones into a mixer and cut the lows and boost the higher frequencies it is pretty ok quality for what you are doing

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>>139591002
>No hd
>No os
>Somehow connected to internet behind a nat router
>Jews have access

K

Sadly I have a macbook pro, but this shit is the last computer I ever buy. There is no need for a computer in this day and age, I can use the internet in the library once per week or so.

These fucking jews have designated about 22% of the CPU in the 'core' series to snooping and backdoor activism.

FUCKING JEWS MAN, I HATE THEM FOR WHAT THEY DO NOT WHAT THEY ARE.

JEWS ARE SATANIC DEMONS FROM HELL

>>139591588
Former employee. Didn't work on IME but talked with some other people about it.
Even some pretty advanced people were incensed that the hardware comes with an inherent backdoor / major security risk.
Even without a conspiracy I'm sure all the three letter agencies are very happy.
On paper, the idea behind it is a feature for organizations (to manage employees' computers) and for content providers to provide drm material (like streaming and preventing you from capturing the feed)
Other than that, I don't know

>>139591009
Retard.

>>139599483
>behind a nat router
>>139597118

>>139598720
what if you dont have speakers, a mic or a camera

before you qustion the speakers: im deaf

>>139604329
motherboards have built in speakers, also the intel hardware botnet has 3G built in. source in this thread.

>>139604583
>motherboards have built in speakers
Most only have a piezoelectric beeper since 2000 or so

>>139604812
hardware botnet has 3G built in

>>139591002
4th amendment in the United States.

They can get the evidence but it can't be used against you.

>>139604989
>hardware botnet has 3G
So all the telcos are in on it? They would notice the cell traffic. And where is the antenna? it would have to be built into the motherboard, so dozens of manufacturers and designers would know as well, seems as bit out their

>>139605102
>implying they care
>implying anyone of the powers that be care about your constitution

>>139605350
read the sources in this thread:
>>139597352
>>139597384
>>139597474
>>139597519

>>139605350

fuck off with your logic you are being watched cuck

>>139594964

you ain't working on shit

In the mid 90s I would script kiddie with sub 7 having it broadcast IPs/port to an IRC chan. I had full control of peoples cameras, data, and could even pop their cd drive in and out. Moral of the story, always disconnect your cameras/mic, and leave your fucking phone in a in another room.

>>139597008
>air gaping your system.
https://phys.org/news/2013-11-badbios-malware-microphone-speakers.html
Even that is not safe apparently

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>>139590804
How far back dose it go?