Auspol: Poofta Marriage Vote.

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>>139587322
>>there are a lot more old funglies who hate poofs and will make sure they vote NO than there are mincing queers desperate for a marriage certificate who'll also make sure they vote YES

>>139587322
The main point they have is that defacto relationships don't have the same rights as family members or spouses when it comes to death and hospitals.

Imo, they should just change defactos to be a little better, then nobody will complain.

>>139587905
It's not about any of that.
It's about finding any excuse to push a political agenda.

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Guess /pol is too busy felching their boyfriends to take notice.

>ywn have a yummy mummy agonising over her kids being pillow-biters.

>>139587905
If you read a bit about it you'll find that legally they pretty much have the same rights you or I have if we're in a defacto hetro relationship. Maybe some stuff about DNR or whatnot but that can be taken care of legally within a will

>>139588180
I know it's similar, that's the only legitimate point they have cunt.

>>139588180
She made up a story about a science teacher telling her son that next year he could wear a dress or something and pulled him out of school.

https://au.educationhq.com/news/41864/anti-gay-marriage-dress-claim-fake-school/

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>>139588167
>It's about finding any excuse to push a political agenda.
I don't even agree with that - pooftas have had the same rights (if not more protection) in the eyes of the law for many years. There's not much they aren't entitled to that straight people don't already have.
It's more about some politicians grinding an axe.

>>139588321
Something tells me homeschooling isn't going to benefit that kid...

>>139588320
>that's the only legitimate point they have cunt.
Actually it's a moot point and should be ignored as such.

>>139588567
In South Australia a person in a de facto partnership cannot be listed on their partner's death certificate. Therefore they cannot access bereavement benefits from Centrelink, they can't get access to their partner's super or life insurance, and they can't get access to any property they didn't have shared title over (like cars, bank accounts, possibly real estate...) without the consent of their next of kin. If their partner's next of kin is either greedy or homophobic or otherwise adversarial, that throws up huge problems. And even if they aren't the process of transfer is lengthy and the first mentioned partner is in mourning at the time. (registered) spouses are automatically named on the death certificate.

Also, in family court proceedings, judges have a wide discretion of determining the nature of a relationship while overseeing a break up. Say a same sex couple has been in a de facto relationship for 15 years and they own a house and have raised a child. A judge can decide they weren't de facto, they were merely cohabitating, which can severely disadvantage one party to the proceedings who might be seeking shared custody of the child, or ownership of a certain asset, or asserting equitable title to the house. If the couple happen to be married, the judge's opinion doesn't matter, the marriage certificate is conclusive evidence of the relationship.

>>139588582
Opposition to same sex marriage can't be because of "muh children", because gays can already adopt and raise children. It can literally only be on the basis that you don't think gay couples should be allowed automatic access to their deceased partner's stuff because that's the only gap amending the marriage act would fill.

There's an approximately uniform legislative scheme for de facto relationships in Australia. The problem with amending uniform legislation on controversial issues like marriage equality is that the mirror legislation doesn't change with it. If Victoria and WA amended their relevant legislation to bring de facto partnerships the rest of the way, there's no guarantee that state governments with more right wing electorates like qld, tas and nsw would do the same thing. It's clearly a job for the commonwealth parliament which is why it's always been treated that way.

But more to the point - if a de facto partnership conferred on the members of the partnership all the rights and responsibilities and benefits of a marriage, why wouldn't you call it a marriage? That's what it would be, after all. If you build an implement with a long wooden handle and four metal prongs fixed to the end, you don't make a shovel just because you call it that. You make a pitchfork. It's just pedantic and confused logic that gives same sex couples all the rights of marriage while still wanting to """win""" the public debate by technically not calling it marriage. It's ridiculous.

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>>139588582
>In South Australia a person in a de facto partnership cannot be listed on their partner's death certificate.
So SA has laws separate from Federal govt.?
>From 1 March 2009, parties to an eligible de facto relationship which has broken down can apply to the Family Court or the Federal Circuit Court to have financial matters determined in the same way as married couples.
From the link I posted earlier.
Everything else in your post can LEGALLY be dealt with as a couple in a will or Enduring Power of Attorney.

>>139588591
>- if a de facto partnership conferred on the members of the partnership all the rights and responsibilities and benefits of a marriage, why wouldn't you call it a marriage?
So you're literally reinforcing my point that it's about semantics.

>>139588955
The whole """debate""" has been one of semantics fampai.

>>139588955
Why should gay people be subject to extra legal steps to hold the same rights?

What do meets think of this chart I made?

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>>139589223
I think you're confusing common sense (having a will) with some sort of "extra step" that you poor victimised pooftas need to take in order to be legally protected under the law.
>tfw my missus and I have had wills since before our first kid came along - essentially when we had something worth money and someone to leave it to.

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>>139589395
>ausfag
>chart doesnt flow right
Someth8ng somethijg auzzie maps.

>>139589683
Why do gays have to hire a lawyer to get rights straights can get with marriage?

>>139587322
>get my paperwork for the vote in the mail
>open it up
>says my license number is not verified and have to fill out another fucking form and send it away

I gave up then this retarded government cant even get their paperwork right.

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>>139588955
>it's about semantics.
>>139588567
>There's not much they aren't entitled to that straight people don't already have.
>>139587905
>Imo, they should just change defactos to be a little better, then nobody will complain.
>>139587322
>more about a politically motivated bunch of poofs winning a semantic argument than anything else.

You're damn right it's about semantics, it's about the simple FACT that you DON'T. HAVE. THE RIGHT. to tell somebody that they're less of a human with less of a relationship than you.

I don't care if there's not a single cent cost, second wasted or minor inconvenience associated with being in a 'civil partnership' as opposed to a marriage. This is about demanding that the government of my country treat me the god damn same as every other person in the country.

The issue is not one of physical inequality (though that objectively and unequivocally exists too), it's of the patronising, superior abuse of power of a government to tell a group of people who happen to be in the minority that because they're different to the ones in power that they don't get to be treated the same. It's the mere assumption that whether or not I'm married is any of their business, or that they have the right to tell people whether or not my relationship is worth as much as somebody else's.

Sitting at the back of the bus is still a bus ride, nigger, why are you complaining? You've got a perfectly good separate water fountain right next to OUR one.

>>139590042
Double income, no children. They can afford it.

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>>139590334
What is surrogacy?

What is adoption?

What is kids from previous heterosexual relationships?

>>139590322
You have the same right to get married as any other Australian. If you don't want to, then don't get one. It's that simple Clarence.

>>139590322
God i'm looking forward to when all the moral decay you faggots have thrown upon society causes it to collapse and we can then purge knowing what damage you do to it. It's literally gunna be Rome 2.0

>>139590375
What is idiocy?

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>>139590042
>Why do whiney millennial cunts whinge about have to hire a lawyer to get a will or Power of Attorney when the rest of the world rolls up their sleeves and just fucking gets on with it?

Transfer of Property etc. is not automatically inferred just by marriage. If it was there wouldn't be divorce courts.

>>139590375
Also, if they're gay why do they have kids from when they were straight? I thought they were born gay, so why did they get married in the first place?

>>139590375
>fags watch TBBT
this image is confirmed NOT fake

>>139590557
They have kids from before they accepted being gay?

>>139590322
Lel. You lot are constantly telling us whites how we're lesser humans.

Vote NO!

>>139590602
Does that mean gays are the true homophones?

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America here to ruin another thread

what up my fellow kangaroos

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So which one of you legends has started a mass triggering at Macquarie University?

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>>139590611
I'm white.
>>139590428
You get water too, nigger. You get a bus ride too, nigger. You just have to do it MY WAY because you're different and I'm in charge.
>>139590480
Dude, I'm just as disgusted by Safe Schools and all that Greens/Labour trash as you are. I just don't want the gubmint telling me who I can and can't marry. Not their business- not their right to say I'm worth less than another Australian.

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>>139590322

AYO HOLD UP!
I'MMA LET YOU FINISH IN A MINUTE BUT THIS HERE NIGGA HAS THE BEST ARGUMENT OF ALL TIME!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlgkDCZI1CQ

>pooftas eternally assblasted by a nigger

>>139590712
Eyyy burger. You waist deep in water yet?

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>>139590322
>I don't care if there's not a single cent cost, second wasted or minor inconvenience associated with being in a 'civil partnership' as opposed to a marriage. This is about demanding that the government of my country treat me the god damn same as every other person in the country.
Found the tumblrite.
You're right, you are a special snowflake and you do deserve to get treated like everyone else.
Why isn't there a beige flag I can use to post as "Straight"?

>>139590712
Fuck off cunt.

>>139589223
>Why should gay people be subject to extra legal steps to hold the same rights?
Because they're not the same as normal people. End of discussion.

>>139590828
Define normal.

>>139590769
White heteros dummy.

Anyway, a lot of shitskins like gooks and your Muslim lover boys will be voting no. Talk about an own goal.

>>139590769
>I wanna be a mechanic
>I don't want to work in a shop on cars and other motor vehicles, I just want to be called a mechanic.
>(You)

>>139588582
Good, faggot

>>139590899
Straight

>>139590769
You don't get it do you? Tolerance is the bare minimum any society that wants to sustain itself can afford, you cannot be accepted. Let me break it down for you

>evolution>race>religion>morality>civilization

civilization relies on morality which relies on religion which relies on race which relies on evolution. Homosexuality is anti evolution, an evolutionary dead end, a curse upon a species. This hurts the race, which the religion was based upon which hurts the religion which hurts the morality and which hurts the civilization. Too much of a deviation from this chain and you're society will collapse. Just as Rome did.

>>139587322
Who watched Q&A? I was autistically screeching at that abo cunt the whole time and his shit song

>>139590754
Macquarie uni is chinked so bad. Why bother.

You'd be better off sticking them up in normal streets.

>>139590754

False flag by the same poofs that put up the socialism posters

>>139591031
fuck!

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>full

I'm really conflicted goys, on one hand I don't give a fuck about fags and what they do but on the other hand, we've already undermined almost every traditional institution, and it never seems to benefit society at large.

Redpill me on NO cunts

>>139591301
see
>>139591074

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>>139590769
>I just don't want the gubmint telling me who I can and can't marry.
While they may have in the past they sure as fuck don't any longer. If you want to "marry" your chihuahua you probably can find someone somewhere who'll do it. As long as you don't try to consummate it you're probably right.

>>139591092
I actually didn't mind Dan Sultan before that. Still I never knew the Lambie was a boong either, so there you go.

>>139591301
>we've already undermined almost every traditional institution, and it never seems to benefit society at large.
You already redpilled yourself

>>139591301
They will push and push, so you should fight for every inch
Nothing is too far for them

>>139591074
I'm not pro fag but there's obviously a reason for homosexuality since it's apparently prevelant in many mammalian species. I would just say it's a way for males to dominate each other in terms of heirachy. Just like prison sex, though that also has sexual frustration elements so probably not a good comparison. Either way, it's there in evolution but it's not as simple as what the leftists believe i,e. Some people just love the opposite sex

>>139591301
Do it just to stir those faggots up.

Also it's the quintessentially Australian thing to do:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyVX3uJpqxc

>>139591406
But not "homosexual marriage"

>>139591406
It has no more reason then down syndrome has, it is a genetic defect, or in times on great lust a substitute for women. It has no reason, just like any other genetic defect has none.

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>>139591301
Voting NO will cause the most asshurt and if it passes a few poofs are bound to kill themselves meaning you have participated in removing faggot filth from the world and cannot be charged for it.

>>139591379
I just laughed when he kept going on about changing Australia Day when Lambe was talking about sexual abuse in Abo communities. He just kept going back to that stupid point and basically ignoring it. Lamb dog was on point pretty much, she doesn't afraid of anything

>>139587322
Poofs getting married aren't a problem in themselves, its a symptom of a much more serious rot. Don't get too caught up on it.

>>139588591
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>>139590899
Let us dissect the delusional phrase, “homosexuality is not a choice.”First, we must establish some axioms and definitions.
– One is mentally ill if one is psychologically incapable of refraining from a biologically non-necessary activity or desire.
– Biologically necessary activities or desires are those without which a species cannot perpetuate itself through generations: e.g., procurement and consumption of resources, expurgation of waste, survival to sexual maturity, sexual reproduction, and education of the young.
– Desires are either biological or psychological in character: they are distinguished according to whether the desire leads toward a biologically necessary or biologically non-necessary activity.
– Desires are either innate or habitual. Habitual desires are acquired desires. Consider an example: A person who has never had alcohol cannot desire to drink alcohol for alcohol’s sake, but only for some other sake, e.g., acceptance in a peer group. Further, a person who has not acquired a refined taste for scotch through frequent consumption thereof cannot desire to drink Oban for Oban’s sake, but only for the sake of scotch in general, for curiosity, or for something else. Therefore, habitual desires are the result of certain activities. Innate desires, however, are not.
– Homosexual desires are by the former definitions not biological desires.
– The meaning of other terms are taken from their accepted use in ordinary discourse.
– One is a homosexual if and only if one either 1): engages in homosexual activity, 2): has homosexual desires, or 3): has homosexual desires and engages in homosexual activity.

>>139588591
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>>139591725
With these laid down, what follows is all possible propositions.
If (1): One engages in homosexual activity either A): voluntarily or B): involuntarily,
(1.A): One chooses to be a homosexual, and homosexuality is a choice.
(1.B): One is compelled to engage either i): psychologically or ii): physically, by another, and homosexuality is not a choice.
(1.B.i): One is mentally ill, by the definition of mental illness.
If (2): One desires homosexuality either A): innately or B): habitually,
(2.A): One is either i): able to refrain from satisfying these innate homosexual desires or ii): unable to refrain.
(2.A.i): One chooses to be a homosexual, and homosexuality is a choice.
(2.A.ii): One is mentally ill, by the definition of mental illness.
(2.B): One has acquired homosexual desires through homosexual activity. If one acquires these involuntarily through involuntary engagement in homosexual activity, one is either coerced by another or one is mentally ill. Otherwise homosexuality is a choice.
If (3): One either chooses to be homosexual or homosexuality is a mental illness.

Therefore, homosexuals are mentally ill if and only if they do not choose to be homosexual and are not physically compelled by another to engage in homosexual activities. However, that is not the end of the discussion. Homosexuality, as a group of behaviors, is inherently self-destructive and causes self-harm. Homosexuality, as a group of behaviors, is statistically one of the most self-harmful. Willful pursuit or practice of a behavior–or group of behaviors–that is inherently self-harmful is a mental illness.

>>139590375
>What is surrogacy
Abhorrent
>What is adoption?
Symptom of the destruction of the family unit and cultural drug abuse
>What is kids from previous heterosexual relationships?
Symptom of divorce normalisation

>>139591630
I disagree completely
This is one of many chances to fight back

>>139591509
nuffin wrong with a big fat shlong going up ya fart box. Australian YES!

>>139591837
It will piss them off, sure, but thats about it. Theyre already far more accepted than they ought to be whether they legally can tie the knot or not.

>>139591935
Then do it to piss them off

>>139591935
If the vote went NO do you think the issue would just magically disappear? Labor is already polling well ahead of the liberal party in AU and what makes you think a no vote wouldn't galvanize them further leading to a win in future elections?

>>139592053
You'll have to do better than that

The most interesting thing that has happened to me today is just seeing turnbulls phone ring on ACA

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>>139591403
>They will push and push, so you should fight for every inch
>Nothing is too far for them
I want to fight against this shit, but I also want the fuckheads to be forced to call me 'married' too.
>>139590957
>your Muslim lover boys
I hate muslims

>>139590972
>>I don't want to work in a shop on cars and other motor vehicles, I just want to be called a mechanic.
That's a shit argument. I know being gay is different. I'm saying if you're a mechanic and I'm a programmer, we should both be called 'employed'.
>>139591837
>This is one of many chances to fight back
The question on the ballot isn't "would you like to let Achmed and his friends piss in the streets" or "yes or very yes: more tax dollars for subhuman abos?".
I'd ask you to consider the subtlety of the issue and the actual, precise topic being discussed, but it's clearly beyond the capacity of anyone posting here.

>>139590824
>Why isn't there a beige flag I can use to post as "Straight"?
Dude, I'd be just as happy for you to have a special Straight flag. I'm not asking for anything special. I am only using the fag rainbow so y'all know you're speaking with the enemy (despite me being allied on virtually all other issues here) on common ground.

>>139591849
I hope you actually took in what i said, it isn't just applicable to homosexuality, but all Law, Morale and Religious questions.

Not feeling particularly charitable towards a group who if they weren't too busy sucking up and begging us to "do the right thing" they'd be telling us about our evil hetero privilege and celebrating impending white minority status with the rest of the commies.

>>139592404
Vote against it and encourage others to do so

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>>139592239
>still acting as if the institution of marriage has no basis independent of your own arbitrary whim

Still waiting for you to come up with a good counter argument faggot.

>>139592053
Maybe they'd come back with a more subdued, respectful case for it rather than current year hysteria.

>>139592549
So how would a respectful case for gay marriage look?

>>139592718
That's the joke, it doesn't exist.

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>>139592534
...?
I never debated that marriage has come from heterosexual, natural, existing relationships.

I don't have a counter argument. I agree.

I'm saying I want in. Politicians don't have the right to tell me my relationship isn't worth as much as yours.

>>139592718
A blank sheet of paper

>>139592751
>Politicians don't have the right to tell me my relationship isn't worth as much as yours.
it isn't

>>139592751
>>139592773
and they do, both figuratively (through policy) and literally (through speech)

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>>139592773
>it isn't
>>139592821
>and they do, both figuratively (through policy) and literally (through speech)


There we go. It's the "technically, we DO have the right to tell you you're worth less" and it's backed up with "because we think you're worth less".

That's not a justification- it's a demonstration of power. If your sole reasoning is "it's icky, I don't like it, and I'm in the majority in this democracy", then you're about to get a rude awakening on the use of power in a few more weeks.

If the only reason you have for your argument winning is the exercise of power, expect it to fall apart as soon as the power shifts.

>>139592751
>A
You already have poofter unions with the same rights cunt, get fucked
>B
Calling your poofta relationship a marriage is redefining what marriage is, address this or fuck off.

>>139593002
>technically
What do you mean technically?


It is not only within their right, but is their duty to enforce policies that discriminate against homosexuals, and to speak out against homosexuals.

>>139593014
Why should marriage not be defined to include people of the same sex? Do they not pay taxes? Do they not have jobs? Do they not contribute to your society?

>>139593136
Why should homosexual not be defined to include the addendum "danger to society"

>>139587322
>Govt. could've saved a shitload of time, money and effort if they'd just had the balls to introduce a private members bill as a conscience vote.
But that would have passed you stupid degenerate fucking boomer. And we don't it to pass because fags are destroying our society and the white race.
>PwC modelling finds gay marriage plebiscite would result in $280m in lost productivity
>That cost comes on top of $158m for nationwide campaign
The government wastes money on endless amounts of stupid shit. They have pointless boong and republic referendums planned which will be more costly and won't even enrage the queers. Money well spent in my opinion. Remember to sage.

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>>139592239
>Dude, I'd be just as happy for you to have a special Straight flag.
But isn't it a true dichotomy if not hypocrisy that you have a universal symbol denoting where you like to stick you dick but if I just want to stick it in a vagoo like any sane normal bloke I don't have a symbol?
>I'm not asking for anything special
But you (and by inclusion anyone who shares your sexuality) is asking for something special.
You want the govt. to spend hundreds of millions of our tax money posting stuff out so you can try to guilt them (govt.) into legislating a change to some wording on a law.

Put it this way:
>abos want a special snowflake clause in the constitution to make them feel muh inclusive
About the same ratio of abos and poofs in the population.
Are they asking for something special?

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Why the FUCK do they wanna get married anyway marriage is a fucking stupid and flawed idea

>>139593136
Where procreation is impossible, marriage is irrelevant since the only reason marriage has existed in human societies and civilizations was to regulate from a social point of view the obligations and responsibilities attendant upon procreation.
So when you start playing games in this way you're actually acting as though the institution has no basis independent of your own arbitrary whim.

>still getting btfo by a nigger

>>139593473
Civil marriage is a legal contract between two people. There are no rules about needing to make kids involved.

>>139593567
Well then why are you not content with civil unions then?

>>139593567
Are you married to your boss?
Are you married to everything you've ever clicked "agree" on?

>>139587322

>Australia
>de facto relationships

Holy FUCK Australia fucks men even when they DON'T marry the woman. If you even have a RELATIONSHIP with her you can have your assets apportioned in the same way as if you were married. What a fucking cuck country.

>>139593567
Actually fuck that, your disregarding the principle:
Just because some individuals who get married chose not to have kids doesn't mean that the principle behind marriage is for the regulation of childbearing.

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>>139593649
Why can't I call the person I love my husband in official documents?

yeah lol defacto relationships can fuck people without even knowing it

>>139593649
Don't waste your breath with that lot.

>>139593760
https://theconversation.com/a-byzantine-ancestor-to-same-sex-marriage-82896

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>>139590769
>not their right to say I'm worth less than another Australian.
>>139592751
>Politicians don't have the right to tell me my relationship isn't worth as much as yours.
You've said a couple of times. It kinda echoes that you don't have a strong sense of worth.
Don't measure yourself or your relationship by others perception of it. If you do it'll wither and fail. The govt. is'nt saying you or your relationship is worthless, it's saying the legislation is [x] and changing it to [y] (especially for an issue many find contentious) is neither going to be cheap, easy or fast.

>>139593567
See my earlier points about defacto relationships and pooftas inherent rights there.

>>139593721
It's acutally fairly universal (cba looking it up right now but I'm fairly sure the UK and Europe have similar statutes)

>>139593783
Call him Barry, he prefers that.

>>139593823
Why were Black people not content with separate but equal?

i would never ask a religious institution to marry a same sex couple thats fucking retarded but the fact we are even arguing whether they should be recognised by law is DUMB

>>139593783
Why can't you call him Microwave instead?
It's more accurate.

>>139593783
Because you're a poofta and marriage is for procreation.

>>139593883
>"spiritual brothers"
Well there you go, that sets up a good basis for "civil unions" (not marriage), BTFO by your own fucking source cunt.

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Daily reminder that Joh was sent by God to save Australia and that socialist poofter Catholics are ruining this country.

>>139593895

I wasn't trying to single out Australia so much as point out that Western countries have become so dysfunctional and balanced against men that it's a miracle that they're even surviving.

Even having a "relationship" with a woman in a jurisdiction with de facto relationships is a liability and gives the woman, purely by the power of having sex with the man, to legally strip him of half of his assets.

It literally couldn't be any more stacked in favor of women.

>don't have expectations to work
>if married, entitled to half the stuff
>if in relationship, entitled to half the stuff
>scholarships and preferments over men
>hiring bias at most workplaces for "diversity" sake

What the fuck is the world coming to.

>>139593932
We are not talking about religious marriage, only civil marriage. The proposed marriage bill contains religious exemptions; further, no church or priest anywhere have ever been forced to marry a gay couple so that point is moot.

>>139594027
If separate but equal didn't work in the 1960s why do you think it would work now?

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>>139593244
>But isn't it a true dichotomy if not hypocrisy that you have a universal symbol denoting where you like to stick you dick but if I just want to stick it in a vagoo like any sane normal bloke I don't have a symbol?

I LITERALLY JUST SAID I AGREE WITH YOU ANON WHY ARE YOU ARGUING

>>139594106
>society worked before
>give a little bit to faggots
>society works slightly less well
>give a bit more
>works even less

Maybe the solution isn't more?

>>139593244
>You want the govt. to spend hundreds of millions of our tax money posting stuff out
No, I want them to shut the fuck up, not poll anyone, and have the supreme court decide that it's illegal for a law to discriminate against homosexuals

Can I marry my dad if this goes through?

>>139594148
So again an argument of we have the power to deny you equality, so we will. How long do you think that'll hold?

>>139594106
You ARE different, I know that's what this whole fuck arse is about - trying to force people to accept you as "normal" but you're not cunt.

Marriage has had a definition for thousands of years and it is an integral part of our civilization, don't distort it.

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>>139593895
>It kinda echoes that you don't have a strong sense of worth.
>Don't measure yourself or your relationship by others perception of it.

Bitch I'm not even IN a relationship. I'm arguing against the government's right to get in my business and say I'm worth less than another Australian. I already don't give a shit what someone else thinks, and I'm not LOOKING for validation anywhere. I'm TELLING you that it's not your right, and in a few short months that's going the be the fucking law, dingbat.

>>139594255
>the power to deny you equality
what sort of backwards logic is this?

New Latho:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ehb6u1Wd6qw

>>139594271
Well, people cooked over open fires for thousands of years. Should ovens and microwaves be allowed?

>>139594358
So you're saying we should test and find out of a man and another man can give birth?

>>139594358
Oven's for the Jews, Mircowaves for the poofs

actually the defacto law isn't really swung in the womans favor it just fucks whoever earns the most money but if your woman earns more money than you, you are a beta anyway so i dunno.

>>139594378
So if two men could have a child together you would be fine with gay marriage?

>>139594358
Objection!
False equivalence.

No one is campaigning to make the definition of microwaves that of a campfire.
>total fire ban
>can't use me microwave

>>139591245

Well the nice parts are. Youre more than welcome to die in the middle of buttfuck nowhere yank.

>>139594106
>using black civil rights as an exemplar on /pol/
What are you doing?

>>139594449
No, you fucking fag.

>>139594480
So then its not about ability to have kids?

>>139594479
Giving historical context to the issue of human rights.

>>139587322
Based trap voting NO here. Traps aren't gay anyway.

>>139594547
If mountains could swim would we use them for boats?

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>>139594547
>YES YOU DESERVE TO DIE, AND I HOPE YOU BURN IN HELL

>>139594358
Can someone please explain this vote but with a food analogy instead
Its the only way to really understand this

>>139594168
Isn't he already married to ya mum?

>>139594618
nah they got divorced

>>139594558
>using human rights as an argument on /pol/
They only exist as legal rights so using them as an argument for making something a legal right is circular nonsense. Don't be a nonce.

>>139594629
So you are fine with divorce, but not with 2 gay people marrying so their kids won't be bastards?

>>139594607
would you put a sausage sanga in your butt? if you would then you should vote yes

>>139594660
I asked if I could marry my dad, he already touched my cock so I figure we should get married

fuck yeah id shelf a sanga not gay tho...

>>139594660
Why do you think two mentally ill fathers is better than one failed father?

>>139594699
incest straw man how creative

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>>139594168
The real question is if I'll be able to marry my waifu.
3DPD pigs blown the fuck out!

>>139594660
how the fuck are two dudes going to make a fucking kid you retard

http://www.9news.com.au/national/2017/08/30/18/30/man-savagely-slits-kangaroos-throat-in-disturbing-video
chink war when

>>139594721
I don't think being gay makes me inherently ill.

>>139594607
>pooftas want to call apples oranges
>can't tell them apples aren't oranges or they'll kill themselves (really proving a strong case for homosexuality not being a mental disorder)
>now having a vote on whether or not to legally recognize that apples are also oranges

>>139594738
Adoption, surrogacy, kids from prior relationships.

>>139594752
>mentally ill person with a stupid opinion
wow, so surprising

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Reply to this post- admit it, the real reason you don't want gay marriage is because you think it's icky.

>>139594667
>>139594756
Please try again but this time using steak
I'm still having trouble understanding

>>139594763
the kid will still be a fucking bastard if one of the dudes doesn't marry the surrogate and most kids up for adoption are bastards

hey gay cunts

>>139594738
Scientific abominations, just watch, if you let gays marry it'll end with shit like that

>>139594763
Oi cunt how come you stopped replying to me?
Are you finally going to admit you got BTFO?

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>>139594160
But you don't want anything special?

>>139594756
Actually surprisingly succinct.

why the FUCK are we still talking about kids thats no the goal of marriage at all, marriage is just a contract to be recognised by the government as a couple so you benefit from shit in death and shit FUCK people

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>>139594792
You're right, I'm not religious at all, seeing fags on TV and thinking about them marrying disgusts me on a very fundamental level, much like the concept of eating shit does.

>>139587322
My senpai and I are voting NO
Fuck fags Brah

>>139594835
Christians want to ban apples grown on grafted trees because it is not "natural" even if the apples taste the same.

>>139594796
If you would rather use a steak to jack off with then eat it, vote yes

>>139594881
you know poofs eat shit right

>>139594796
>pooftas want to sell chuck steak as porterhouse
>can't tell them chuck steak isn't porterhouse or they'll kill themselves (really proving a strong case for homosexuality not being a mental disorder)
>now having a vote on whether or not pooftas can legally sell chuck steak as porterhouse

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>>139587322
>Gays shouldn't marry
>It costs the government too much
>Government doesn't dictate marriage
>Religion does

Pick one anon

>>139594991
I pick "Gays shouldn't marry"

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>>139594750

foot fetishes disgust me doesnt mean I dont want people that share a foot fetish to be restricted from getting married

>>139594904
>>139594960
Alright my almonds have been activated. I now know what I should do.

>>139595019
>7 posts by this id

>>139595037
Vote no

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>>139594958
I'm sure they do, that's why I have to escape the filth of this world.

>>139595019 >>139594870
>>139594710 >>139594447
>>139593932

Are you even old enough to use 4chan?

>>139587322
Saw a bunch of posters "aussies come on" etc. around my school
>Majority of school is immigrants and a lot are muslims
ahahahahahahaha

i dunno how this postal vote will pan out, but i have a sneaking suspicion that it will result in a No majority.

the media has greatly over represented the people in favor for it.

majority of men will vote no, women will be 50/50 on the issue, i know alot of homo hating women. 18-25 will be about 50/50, good thing we are having this vote now and not in a few years time. the education system has been indoctrinating swarms of marxist youth in high schools across the nation.

>>139594073
Social engineering from the top level of power, distributed by people in government positions (In Aus DFAT), heads of corporations to think tanks funded to undermine and breakup the "boys clubs" of society. This will benefit them for a few reasons; one of the aims is to promote more women into the workforce. Economically benefiting the wealthy by deflating the value of work. In the modern day it costs two wages to provide for a household. Childcare costs go up, more money for a women to spend on vapid consumerism. These people want control of your kids while your working have more devices to steer your children away from what you value making sure they never develop critial thinking skills and absolutely no sense of finacial planning.

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Jesus Christ can we stop talking about the Poofs

>Then proceeds to talk about the Commie Poofs:

>It has come to the attention of The XYZ that sometime in the very recent past, a brave band of freedom fighters managed to avoid the ever present eye of Big Brother and distribute anti-socialist propaganda deep in the heart of enemy territory: Sydney.
>Our source tells us that socialists were busy for several days, scurrying around in a vain attempt to find them all, to either remove, deface, or destroy the dangerous, potentially viral memes of their enemy.
>It is believed that these posters were themselves parodies of posters intended to advertise a Stalinist conference in Sydney, which makes the attempts to deface them even more hilarious.

>Article Below:
http://www.xyz.net.au/university-politics-matters/

>Archive Link for you puritans:
http://archive.is/fHGEe

>>139587322
Im really conflicted. On one hand I don't see why gays shouldnt be able to get married because who cares about love between 2 consenting adults. On the other I realize gay marriage isn't the true definition of marriage plus the win for leftist and how smug they'll be. I also don't like the militant gay community shoving their sexuality down everyones throats constantly.

How should I vote /pol/?

اِبراهيم خَلِيلُ اللهْ
اِسمَاعِيل ذَبِيحُ اللهْ
عَلّمَ الِخَلقِ اللهْ
لَا اِلهَ اِلَا اللهْ
وَ نوُح'' مَعَ اَهْلِهْ
وَاسْتَوَتْ عَلَى اْلُجودِي
مَا كَانَ يَقُولُ هُو
لَا اِلهَ اِلَا اللهْ

اَللهُ اَكْبَر اَللهُ اَكْبَر
إِنَّكَ اَنتَ أًلعلِيمُ ألحَكِيم
اَللهُ اَكْبَر اَللهُ اَكْبَر
إِنَّهُ هُوَ ألتّوَّاَبُ الرَّحيم
اَللهُ اَكْبَر اَللهُ اَكْبَر
وَهُدًي وَّ بؤ بُشرأ ا لِلمُؤمِنينَ
اَللهُ اَكْبَر اَللهُ اَكْبَر
إِنَّكَ اَنتَ السَّمِيعُ العليمُ
وأعَلمُ اْ أًنَّ اللهَ عَزِيزُ حَكيمْ

قَالُ لَنَا عزرائيل
اِسرافيلُ ميكائيل
اَيضًا لَنَا جِبرايل
لَا اِلهَ اِلَا اللهْ
يا اللهُ اَرحَمْنَا
وَ احْفَظْ مِنْ عَدُوِنَا
زَيّنت فِ لِسَانِنَا
لَا اِلهَ اِلَا اللهْ

>>139595608
Vote against it.

>>139594960

homosexuality is a mental disorder, they say it isnt genetic, so it's caused after birth.

every boy or girl born is attracted to the opposite sex from birth. something changes their behavior.

>>139595608
>love
Far too often conflated with lust and fear of loneliness to be a useful term.

>>139595630
Is this the new German national anthem?

>>139595717
Yes.

>>139595717
ألمانيا هي الخلافة الآن ، والله علي استعداد.

>>139587322
Get fucked you faggot, hopefully I have the pleasure of dropping you out of a helicopter one day.

>>139594892
Hey Fag, why don't you ask the Vatican for your gay marriage in a roman catholic church as the government can't culturally or legally grant you the Christian marriage rite or ceremony you seek?

>>139595592
This whole "issue" is a big fucking distraction and a pass for our politians to sit there and do nothing, to address the state that our country is in.

>>139590899
Normal: conforming to a standard; usual, typical, or expected.

When 95% of the country is straight. Straight is normal. Gay people go on and on about how they're different and special. How everyone should accept them being different, then demand to be treated as normal.

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Do you think my kids would like these?

>>139596073
http://religionnews.com/2017/08/04/britains-first-same-sex-marriage-celebrated-in-a-scottish-church/

http://news.abs-cbn.com/overseas/08/25/17/italian-protestant-church-says-i-do-to-gay-blessings

>>139596718
So people who are different have to be treated worse?

>>139597076
People who are different shouldn't expect to be treated the same is more the point.

>>139597076
you should be in a mental asylum

>>139597267
Why should they expect to be treated worse?

>>139597076
People who are different shouldn't change definitions of millennium old traditions to make themselves feel accepted.

>>139597477
What's inherently wrong with changing how we did things from 1000s of years ago? We do it all the time.

>>139597046
No, the Vatican. Not random churches, not protestant churches. The Vatican. Protestant churches are not catholic churches.

You do want gay marriage under the catholic church don't you fag?

>>139597452
In the future we will find a cure for what is wrong with you, instead of trying to forced gay marriage you should be trying to get funding to find a cure for your mental disorder

>>139597584
No?

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>>139595630
>>139595851

>>139597076
Just come clean. Who molested you?

>>139597582
I'll tell you:

>Steve things marriage is between a man and a woman
>you (poofter) think marriage is between any two adults

What makes you right and Steve wrong?

>>139597646
الاستراليه الكلبة.

>>139597650
Nobody. What a crude thing to say though.

>>139597670
That people who are same sex attracted are born that way and we don't generally discriminated against people for factors out of their control.

>>139597713
if yes passes are you going to advocate for man and goat marriages?

>>139597627
Why does the religious rite of marital union interest a godless fag?

>>139597737
Liar, this is an anonymous forum you can tell the truth.

>>139597758
نعم.

>>139597759
they like fucking things, so they want to fuck marriage

>>139597758
وأيضا الشريعة ، وحظر الكحول. انه شراب الشياطين والحرام.

>>139597759
People who grew up in religious traditions often would like to continue participating in them.

>>139597737
>That people who are same sex attracted are born that way and we don't generally discriminated against people for factors out of their control.

Leaving out the obvious truth that everyone has control of their own actions, so your point is moot, that has nothing to do with the definition of marriage.

You failed to address my point in its entirety.

>>139597737
>we don't generally discriminated against people for factors out of their control
Yes we do and it's not really negative discrimination against you, it's positive discrimination in favour of child-bearing relationships.

>>139597913
it's traditional for a man and a women to marry not two men

>>139597076
see >>139597267 and >>139597477

>>139597999
Traditions change to fit the participants.

>>139597930
So do Black people have control over being Black?

>>139598072
why can't you poofs come up with your own Traditions. Go make a Church of the Gays or something

>>139598086
at least niggers came up with Kwanzaa because they didn't want to celebrate a white mans holiday

>>139598086
You really hit the nail on the head, racism was fought as one could not hide the colour of their skin to avoid discrimination.

If fags can hide their faggotry, what exactly are you fighting for.

>>139598267
Clearly gay people are not going to just stop being gay for your convenience though.

>>139598072
Go forth and found your house of sodom.

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>>139587905
>then nobody will complain
dob geg
Even if you sucked their dick, they would move on and start pushing for the next step in their agenda. Just look at the burgers.

>>139598317
You're a dimwit. He's saying gays can feasibly exist without bumming in the street as you seem so fond of.

>>139598438
Yeah we'd like to bum in private with our husbands.

>>139598086
Your still not addressing my point on the definition of marriage!

>Steve thinks marriage is between a man and a woman
>you (poofter) think marriage is between any two adults
Why is your definition correct and Steve's wrong?

>>139597452
How are you treated worse? You are different, therefore you are treated as such. I don't expect to be entitled to be able to go to primary school and learn with children because I am an adult. I can go to tafe or uni for my education needs as that is the institution for adult learning. You are not entitled to marriage nor are you entitled to change the definition to suit your minority. Focus on civil unions. Why not put the things you are complaining about "death certificate, medical decisions ect" under civil unions or just like another anon posted sort it out yourself with wills, power of attorney ect.

>>139598472
>we'd like
And I'm sure plenty of people would like to put a brick through you're face but they're not allowed.

"I want it" isn't an argument.

>>139598690
I wan't to throw him off a roof top, it's my right as a Muslim

>>139598502
Steve is not extending rights to those who are innately same-sex attracted. They have no interest in marrying someone of the opposite sex and to compel them to do so would injure both their mental health as well as the stability of any opposite sex partnerships they enter into.

>>139598673
Can't get a cake from some bakeries. I think being gay is very visible when you mention that you live with someone of the same sex or are holding their hand. You would want to outlaw same sex couples holding hands too, right?

>>139598908
You know traditions change, in Australia we didn't transitionally throw poofs off food tops. Traditions change

>>139592751
>ROBBIE ROTTEN?
>WHO DID YOU EXPECT

>>139598967
2/10

Being able to say "well I'm a married father of two" conveys prestige and social status that is ignored as relevant by homophobic opponents of equal marriage.

>>139599036
you can't have kids, you can't be a father by fucking another dude

>>139599221
So adopted children or surrogate kids just don't count?

>>139598908
Marriage isn't a right, it's an institution with a definition, that definition has been agreed upon for millennia.

If you want an institution like marriage (but not marriage) which "extends it's rights to those who are innately same-sex attracted" then COME UP WITH YOUR OWN!
(protip: you already did, civil union)

But don't call it marriage, because it's not.
Don't piss on someone else's parade because they didn't invite you.

>>139599291
nope, your just their care giver

>>139599316
It is a right.

>>139599462

>MUH RITES

no it isn't

>>139589223
Pooftas can marry women, same as every one else. Lesbians can marry men. Don't like it? Be a single sperg like most 4channers. Don't expect sympathy for your mental illness.
>>139590322
I do have that right. You are mentally ill, will probably die 20 years earlier than me and have a high probability of being infected with a lethal disease. You are 15 times more likely to be a pedo than other posters, considering this is 4chan that means you probably killed the Beaumont children and held the kiddies down while Don Dunstan tore their anuses.
Maggots such as yourself have pushed a lot of Aussies from "live and let live" to "Live and let die" where fags are concerned. You need to take an assisted flight off the Gap.

>>139587322
Ever since that gay pedo couple in Queensland adopted and abused a boy and claimed all "muh gayness we good parents" , I have only pure disgust towards pooftas and dykes. They don't deserve children , fucken child abusing toxic faggots.

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Just off yourself with your mental illness. I don't have to encourage your behavior. It's society's duty to make sure appropriate behavior exists and should be modeled. Eating poop from another's man's asshole is not ok.

>>139599462
Even if it is a right (it isn't), that right has a definition and definitions are exclusive by definition (shit I am getting meta here) - being excluded from a definition is not grounds for changing that definition.
If it was - you would destroy the very function of definitions in the first place SINCE ALL DEFINITIONS EXCLUDE (some) OTHER DEFINITIONS.

>>139599462
if the Kinsey scale is true gays can already get married, just only to women

>>139599639
It is a right.

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>>139599291
Why can't you fags leave the kids alone.

>>139590754
Beautiful artwork . If I see communist propaganda then this must be placed everywhere too.

>>139599667
proof drinking semen fucks up your brain, no wonder women are fucked up

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>>139599462
>>139599667
Now that's pathetic.

>>139599667
You're are still glossing over the definition argument and I can't blame you because it's one you can't win.

Don't change Steve's definition of marriage, come up with your own institution (or "right") which includes faggots.
(protip: still civil unions)

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>>139594991
fuck you gayjew

>>139599688
Hey poofter, leave those kids alone

>>139599036
Now to make a baby you need a man and a woman. So when you say "I'm a married father of two" people are still (no matter what the marriage laws are) going to assume that you are married to a woman. That "prestige" is attached to a man an woman having kids. You will still be different because gays will never become the majority no matter how hard you push to indoctrinate kids into your way of life at school. Having marriage isn't suddenly going to magically make you "normal"

>>139599795
Ending slavery changed some property definitions. Was that a mistake?

Our understanding of who deserves rights changes , and now Australia is the sole English speaking country to not grant equal marriage rights to its gay citizens. If you think that somehow will NEVER change, you are delusional.

>>139599291
No, not really. You're just a glorified carehome.

>>139599905
Definitions change over time. When I say "the net" people understand I am not going fishing anymore.

>>139599905
he should say "I'm a married father of two molested children." they will know his a poof then

>>139599462
You have that right. You can marry a woman any time you like.

>>139600043
I could never be in love with a woman. Marriage is about love, or at least once it was.

>>139598908
>I think being gay is very visible when you mention that you live with someone of the same sex or are holding their hand. You would want to outlaw same sex couples holding hands too, right?

No but I would outlaw the degenerate filth that is mardigras and safe schools. One of the main reasons people push so hard against gays is because of how hard they push their filth on society and try to make that "normal". The majority of your minority are scum or at the very least the majority of your spokesmen are.

>>139600089
just marry and ugly women that will let your fuck her arsehole most of the time

>>139590788
damn hes articulate af

>>139599943
>these arguments
You've now resorted "it's happening, you can't stop it".

The only depressing thing is that's exactly the sort of thing that matters in our "progressive" liberal democracies.

>>139599943
>falling back to the slavery and black rights argument

I notice you do this every time I make a good point and you're lost for an argument, but can't you see it's a false equivalence?
Gays aren't being forced to pick cotton!
We just won't let you change the definition of one of our most important institutions.

>Australia is the sole English speaking country to not grant equal marriage rights to its gay citizens
argumentum ad populum
A logical fallacy - if you can tell me all these other countries that changed the definition of marriage you should be able to tell me WHY they changed the definition of marriage and use that as an argument.

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The next step.

>>139599997
You cannot change biology. Two men or two women will NEVER create a child on their own. You will never be the same as a same sex couple no matter what laws or "definitions" you change.

>>139600089
>Marriage is about love

That's your definition.
Steve's definition is that marriage is about raising children.

>>139600089
>Marriage is about love
No it isn't, no it wasn't. This is reductionist hippy nonsense. What even is love? I guarantee your definition is startlingly different to mine or anyone else's here. I bet you believe in "the one" as well, don't you?

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>>139600434
Well then marriage should have requirements that you have to have kids to qualify. It currently does not, so that doesn't exclude gay people.

>>139600483
Pointing out exceptions isn't an argument. An argument that something needs to be done about the absolute state of society that it doesn't see the value in raising progeny, maybe.

>>139600483
Nope bad argument (and I see you still haven't addressed my other post) there is no need to force married couples to have children so long as it is inherent in the definition that the ideal is for marriage to create a stable family.

You're trying to change that definition and you're trying to change that ideal.
Whether or not you know it you are trying to destroy the family and that's why we are fighting you.

>>139600745
Giving gays the right to marry increases the happiness and productivity of 7% of your population.

>>139600760
Ironic as I am trying to create my own.

>>139600089
>Being able to say "well I'm a married father of two" conveys prestige and social status that is ignored as relevant by homophobic opponents of equal marriage.

Only a Fag who is incapable of love and formulated his whole identity around sexual deviancy would see being married and having children as a symbol and means of gaining social status and prestige.

When really it is just a normal part of life that comes with being adjusted, the ability to bring a life into a family and happy home with a strong moral upbringing so they don''t have to go through life mingling amongst fags and their degenerate lifestyle.

You hate religious marriage as somewhere In your life you were failed, somebody molested you and destroyed the expectation every child should have for a happy loving home. Now you want to destroy the religious rites and institutions that are celebrated by families and people hoping to instill strong moral frameworks in their children.

Will being married to another meth addicted bug catching party hosting fag and adopting two unfortunate orphans from a tough predicament to abuse convey prestige and social status? No. You Fags don't value family or morality, everything is for show, your kids will be for show just like your deceptive marriage that you used to lure in your child victims.

Just have your HIV party and forget to take your meds one day.

>>139600816
What you are trying to create isn't what we would call a family and as a result you are destroying our definitions in the process.

As I said earlier: Civil Unions.
I don't care what you do just stop shitting on our definitions, create your own.

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>>139600191
Perfect example
>mardigras

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>>139600793
1.6%, who are incapable of being happy due to their obsession with physical sensation.

>>139600793
It also decreases the happiness and productivity of the 40-60% that are going to vote no on the poll but won't affect most of the "yes" voters because they literally don't give a flying fuck and their only motivation for voting "yes" is to make the progressive fags shut up.

>>139600414
This is it. Gay people will still be depressed and suicidal because let's face it, no one wants to be gay, it sucks. Don't be gay kids.

>>139600890
my poof uncle died of anal cancer, he left all his money to his poof butt buddy. His butt buddy didn't look after him while he was dying of cancer. My Dad did

>>139600940
So you don't consider straight people where the woman had issues carrying a child and they used a surrogate to be families? Interesting.

>>139600989
7%.

https://www.prri.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/PRRI-Millennials-Web-FINAL.pdf

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Needing amyl nitrate to get an erection is not a sign of normal sexuality.

>>139601088
>So you don't consider straight people where the woman had issues carrying a child and they used a surrogate to be families? Interesting.

I never said anything of the sort, I thought we might be about to reach some sort of understanding but then you bust out an awful strawman like that!

If you want to know my position so that you may better argue against me I'll tell you; I think that a child needs both a mother and a father as they learn different skills from each.
That's why I believe that the ideal of the family should be a Man and a Woman married together.

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>>139601060
Like the other anon has been saying. They should focus on their own thing, civil unions and stuff. Stop trying to emulate straight people and straight families. I do feel bad for them, but then I see them spreading their degeneracy in society and the shit they try to push on our kids and stop feeling so bad. They're harming their cause more than they realise.

>>139601375
I laughed so hard when I watch some documentary about these two poofs who decided to get HIV because they wouldn't have to worry about catching it if they already had it. They ended up crying after because they didn't look into what living with HIV actually entailed

You cunts better vote no.

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>>139601088
1.6% female. 1.8% male.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nsfg/key_statistics/s.htm#sexualmales

>>139600793
Gays will never be happy, you could provide them with all the meth, chads and children they could ever dream of, they will never be happy because they are

M E N T A L L Y I L L

>>139601595
7% of millennial identify as gay per the link I gave.

>>139601741
>7% of millennials
>identify as

>>139601741
stop molesting kids

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Sluts will vote for gay marriage because they have the same mind set as faggots.

>>139595514
I think there'll be attempted sabotage. Like an abnormal skew in the yes vote. Then the virtue signalling would be just as cancerous as it is now...
>SEE EVERYONE IN AUSTRALIA WANTS IT!!!
>WE WE'RE RIGHT
etc...

>>139596846
How she could have made that mistake. Wouldn't have these things been in the pet food aisle?

>>139601817
nah they were put next to the tinny teddies because woolies employs 16 year old to stock the shelves

VOTE CORY FOR PM YA CUNTS! !

>>139601088
7% of millennials is like 0.1% of the total population and millennials don't even work, so there's no productivity to be increased. Stop molesting children.

>>139601964
if their parents hit them they wouldn't of turned out gay

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>>139601741
Millenials are not the general population. It might help you to stop moving goal posts if you left them buried in the ground instead of using them to stretch your anus while you cam whore.

>>139601989
I've found homosexuality is caused by sexual abuse in 100% of cases. It's why gays have the highest rate of child molestation too. Vicious, evil cycle.

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I wish we still had state rights.
Imagine if all the fags moved to Vic and NSW.

>>139602123
yeah I know that, but i'm sure there is a small percentage that just needed a good smack and like to suck dick because daddy never loved them

>>139602016
25% of people aged 18-24 aren't enrolled to vote. No is going to win and the poofs will all have a big sook about it

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Remember, when debating 'progressives':

>>139588591
>Opposition to same sex marriage can't be because of "muh children", because gays can already adopt and raise children. It can literally only be on the basis that you don't think gay couples should be allowed automatic access to their deceased partner's stuff because that's the only gap amending the marriage act would fill.

What about objecting on the grounds of it being just another front in a cultural war waged by cultural marxists? Want to be a sodomite, go be one, don't try to make the rest of us think two men ass fucking isn't disgusting. Just be glad you're not being tossed from a rooftop like they do in the middle east, you faggoty ingrate.

>>139602417
Islam needs to change so we can drink and eat bacon. I would hope on board like lightning to start throwing poofs off roofs

>>139594750
It was already dying horribly

He just shit at it
But fuck Chinks

>>139602651
i'm surprised he didn't beat it with a stick

>>139602513
Exactly. They need to allow women to wear bikinis and whatnot also.

>>139590322
>you DON'T. HAVE. THE RIGHT. to tell somebody that they're less of a human with less of a relationship than you.

Marriage doesn't exist for the sake of conferring some sort of status or dignity upon your relationship. It exists for the sake of creating stable environments for children by incentivising and then enforcing, through legal contract, long-term relationships. You aren't less of a human for not being married, nor is your relationship any less: you're attributing to marriage a purpose that it doesn't have. It's simply a matter of recognising that some types of relationships are categorically different, and the purpose of marriage (i.e. the normalisation of the family unity) is particular to one of these categories and not the other.

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>>139602296
I hope so.
I note that the fags in the USA claim Peter Thiel isn't 'really gay'. He fucks men but doesn't join in the rest of the degenerate circus demanding special snow flake status. Instead he pushes for general liberty. Unacceptable!
https://www.advocate.com/commentary/2016/10/14/peter-thiel-shows-us-theres-difference-between-gay-sex-and-gay

>>139602706
nah I don't really care about that stuff, women have become massive bitches and sluts. they might act better if they have the threat of getting rocks chucked at their head or acid thrown on them