Women should be unable to consent until they are married

22.

14 in America

can someone explain to me why they would think doing it with a young girl is better?

>weaker muscles, will be a literal plank
>no experience, will be a literal plank
>weak vaginal wall, slow boring sex where she'll say the safe word over and over

seriously virgins, get some fresh air

Dan "As soon as the baby comes out, I go in the baby" Schneider would like to have word with you

15 if married

16-20 with a 2 year age difference

21+ open to all

>>139577417
35.

15

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>>139577777
C H E C K E D
H
E
C
K
E
D

>>139577417
9

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>>139577777
Kek approves

>>139577417
If its out the clock its time for her some cock.

>>139577417
25

>>139577777
35 it is

>>139577417
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1R-B-BFQwng

>>139578012
Anything younger is degenerate and most certainly haram.

>>139577714
Young girl = unlikely she knows how to fuck a man properly = more fun for you to dominate and dump the seed.
Females supposedly love that, so that's a win-win for both.

16 is about right tbqh.

>>139577714
why the fuck would you get a girl at peak when you can get a girl before peak and ride that upswing for a good 4 years

>>139577483
>until
>implying a woman can deny consent to her husband

>>139577714
It's a thing about control. Only that.
Men that want to be a dom in bed but are too weak to dom a normal woman

>>139577417
14 and teen marriage should be normalized.

>>139577483
I agree, but age for marriage should be 18.

>>139577417
20

>>139577417
What's an age of consent?

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>>139577869
don't forget the gets.

14

>>139578563

This.

Girlfriend since 12, married at 14, not enough time to get slutty behavior.

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>>139577777
god damn it kek

>>139577973
dropped so hard on your head at birth that the leaf fell off your flag and you can't English right

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>>139577417
Personally, I think that if you're impose an age of consent that you're placing government restrictions on what people do in the privacy of their own bedrooms. Keep the government out of our sex lives!

>>139577417
13.

change age of consent to age of marriage and gas all fornicators

>>139577417
property doesn't consent

>>139577417
If the kid can say "yes" and "no", it's alright.

>>139579131
>but we should be able to racemix with slaves
Stop using that shitty flag, hypocrite.

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>>139577668

>>139577417
12

>>139578912

THIS desu senpai

>>139577417
Sauce?

>>139578481
why would anyone want to be with a girl for more than 4 years? are you a bitch?

>>139577417
25

>>139579328
Old enough to bleed, old enough to breed

>>139577417
12

>>139577417
>that salami
*unf* huuuUUUUUUuarrrrrrrgggg
foua

>>139577714
Purity is a pretty big deal for the majority of men, senpai.

>>139577417
when her father consents to you sleeping with her

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ITT: pedophiles and pedophobes

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>>139577417

Ideally 16 but since the slippery slope of semitic degeneracy is in full swing it should stay at 18 if not get bumped up a bit.

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>>139577777
Kek vult

>>139577417
1488

>>139577777
>>>139577417 (OP)
>35.
What do five sevens make?
Holy fuck. I think this is a message form a higher power. I've never ever seen anything like this anywhere on the planet.

>>139577417
like maybe 5 or 6 my dude. grills peak at 7.

>>139577417
Sauce??

>>139577417
This thread again. Im going to say 20 just to spite you.

>>139577777
nigger faggot

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>>139580344
why are you asking

>>139580532
Scientific research.

>>139577714
Everything is ten times more shittier the second time, so all of those things will probably screw with your brain the second time around, but first time none of that applies.

>>139577417
When I think from a mental standpoint, 25.
When I think from an emotional standpoint, 18.
When I think from a biological standpoint, 16.
Tons of cultures across tons of centuries have had different "ages of consent", from "if it can breath, put it on its knees" to "if there's grass on the field, play ball" to "She can't suck this head until her and I are wed". So right now it varies by demographic and culture.

I'll stick with 18+ thanks.

Is this a Sharia thread?

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>>139580876
It is now, Deutschmann.

cunny

>>139577777
that some bullshit, Kek

>>139580344
>>139580608
A Swedish Love Story (1970)
www.imdb.com/title/tt0065955/

>>139581001
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtVqloat0Kc

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>>139581001
SWEDEN YES

>>139578562
'normal women' are old hags.
I bet you're a granny fucker, aren't you

>>139577777
kek you literally can't make the doubles at the end of the post add up to the number in the post that's literally not okay.

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Abolish it

>>139577417
Exactly what the Bible says. As long as they pass the flower of their age and the father approves it.

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>>139581352

>>139577777
>kek has spoken

does this mean im actually not behind schedule by being a 25 yr old virgin

>people itt saying 14
>these are the same people accusing politicians of being satanic pedophiles

P O T T E R Y

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>>139577777
>PENTS APPROACHING
WARNING
>PENTS APPROACHING
WARNING
>EVACUATE
WARNING

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>>139577777
>tfw kek brings about life extension technology making 35 the new 16

14 or 15 in Australia. They need to learn :)))
Hurr de durr AoC in Sweden is 14.
Or, y'know, 0, if you're an immigrant and can't understand no.

>>139577714
less bullshit to deprogram.

>>139581061
>all those YouTube suggestions
Fucking hell lol

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Japan has the best AoC, just google it

>>139580946
Good post

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>>139577777
>35.
7+7+7+7+7=35
1+3+9+5+7+7+7+7+7=53 (35 backwards)

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>>139582123

>>139577417
12.

>>139582123
>>139577777
Kek wills it

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OP webm...

>>139577417

>>139577417
According to the Talmud: 3 years and 1 day

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>>139582481
unless you mean for getting your dick sucked by a rabbi then its less than a year old

>>139577417
Like Plato's Greece, marriage one year after puberty.

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The age of consent should be 1 year old, as by that age a person is able to say "no".

>>139581755
This.
Although, with modern levels of degeneracy, deprogramming is often impossible.

>>139582528
I was talking about for females, but yes you are right, men are suck-raped right out of the womb

>>139582743
Which is why i'm considering joining the amish.

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>>139582123

>>139581061
>not a single black guy

>>139583032
kino

>>139581369
Chapter?

>>139581939
What movie is that?

>>139583370
Never mind, Orphan apparently. Looks like a pile of shit. Disappointed desu

>>139582840
I've thought the same. Very difficult to join a genuine, traditional Amish community, or so I've read. The pacifism thing is problematic as well. Also, their genetic situation is highly problematic. I've been told, on pretty solid authority (I live near a few communities, and I am a very, very skeptical person, but I think this is probably true), that they bring in non-Amish men to breed with their wives. The man is observed, the woman is hidden behind a curtain from the waste-up. Very, very sad. It's a harsh, fucked up world.

>>139578860
he might be retarded but that's still better than being a canadian faggot

>>139577417
21

Anyone who says lower than 18 should be shot js

>>139583457
>>139583370

Orphan, and I think she's actually a 30+ year old midget

>>139583614
90% of girls lose their virginity at 16

At age 15 or 16 they turn into little sex robots that go absolutely cock crazy. This is why historically 16 was the age a woman started taking suitors in Europe

>>139577417
I wish I didn't find little girls to be so attractive.

>>139577417
20

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>>139577777
>>139582123

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>>139577714
Young girls are naturally more desirable than older women. It's simple biology. Men who disagree do so simply to comply with societal norms. It's sad, really.
To explain, let me list some of the traits that men typically look for in the perfect girl.

The perfect girl
>is small
>is cute
>is pure
>is impressionable
>is soft
>is naive
>is innocent but has a natural curiosity for lewd things
>smells good (faint milk/crayon/fruit smell)
>will always look up to you
>will listen to you
>will trust you
>is interested in your hobbies
>doesn't care only about money
>likes to watch you play video games
>will let you teach her all kinds of things
>likes to cuddle with you
>has perfect skin without blemishes

As you can see, all of those exclusively apply to younger girls. Also, they tend to have a slightly higher body temperature, which feels great when cuddling.

>>139581701
14 would be hebephilia and right on the verge of ephebephilia, pedophilia is prepubescent children.

>>139584046
>>smells good (faint milk/crayon/fruit smell)
wot

>>139583641
I'm still mad /tv/ tricked me into watching that.

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>>139577417
100.

>easy to remember
>no one wants to fuck a 99 year old so you know she'll be a virgin
>too many god damn people anyway

sage this entire fucking board forever

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>genuine leftists are pushing pedophilia, saying that its "progressive" and "on the right side of history"
>rightists posing as leftists are also trying to associate pedophilia with leftism in order to demoralize leftists and make them realize the slippery slope exists
>genuine rightist are also pushing pedophilia because they believe that it "promotes strong marriage" and "the feminists are suppressing our nature"
>leftists posing as rightists are coming on to /pol/ and spamming pedo threads, trying to associate pedophilia with rightism in order to demoralize rightists, and make them realize their conspiracy theories are rediculous

WHO THE FUCK IS JEWING WHO?

Wish it was 11. Have a girl, but it's not awful realistic.

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>>139577417


http://web.archive.org/web/20050325114700/http://logicalreality.com/openbb/read.php?TID=424&page=1

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>>139585264
You forgot about the actual pedos who have a sexual orientation that THEY DIDN'T CHOOSE who just want the hatred, bigotry, and oppression to end.

36 stop being a pedo op.

16

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>"WAAAAAAAAAAAAH"
>"WAAAAAAAAAAAAH"
>"WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH"
>"I'M BEING OPRESSED BECAUSE I CANT FUCK CHILDREN UNDER 12"

literally how all pedos sound.

But age of consent should be 16, but only for those under 18. If you're over 18 the age of consent should be 18.

>>139584046
You've thought too much about this, and the picture I'm getting is pre-pubescent.
Don't be the stereotypical modern German. Don't be a depraved fuck.

>>139585682
This is accurate.

I was never abused or taught of sex, but by 6/7 I was telling my brother and his mates what it was.

I think girls have a complusion to breed very early which explains their mothering to inanimate objects.
Though I am sure, that adults wouldn't take advantage of a young girl who is not quite sure what impregnation is or feels like.
I would really hope adults understand that complusion/instinct shouldn't always trump morals.... Right... Anons?

>>139586402
and your arguments are...?

I understand how you want to "protect the children" but the fucking is never the problem, it is usually the how you convince them to fuck you that tends to cause the most trauma

If you don't abuse or hurt a minor during courtship I don't understand the hate, I mean it's "morally" wrong but that is pretty much all made up from our emotions

>>139585264
I want women locked into a tightly controlled marriage to a Waffen-SS man before they develop into feminist, narcissist, materialist whores.

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>>139577896
/thread mashallah

>>139585682
this is probably larp but a female friend told me she wanted to fug at 8, so i believe it in theory

>>139586749
Right Anon. Just because feelings and instincts are there, morality and compassion need to be employed or we'd be no better than base line animals or subhuman Somalis.

Puberty ONLY if married because that's when girls start fooling around. Any later than that and you are training roasties by force of law.

You AOC cucks are ENCOURAGING the slut training known as teenage and college promiscuity! They learn to separate sex from commitment or even love during this time!

>>139586749
The general population are considerate toward one another. An adult courting a child is as delicate, furtive, and apprehensive of rejection as adults are among themselves.

>>139582123
holy shit someone should capture this before it is too late.

>>139577777
Put me in screencap pls

>>139586646
The girl I described is going to be my future wife, so choose your words carefully, big guy.

>>139577417
18

>>139577417
No sex before marriage on pain of firing squad

>>139577417
14

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>>139577417
>age of consent

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The parents (dad) should decide when daughter can have sex. Boys should be left to decide for themselves

>>139584814
See these /tv/ core films instead: the professional, the woodsman, piccole labbra, the blue lagoon, innocence (2004), pretty baby, lolita, and bastard out of carolina
you'll thank me afterwards
Oh, and image related

>>139577417
22

Fuck off Rodney Alcala

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>>139577777
>KEK has a milf fetish
hold me lads

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>>139577417
whos feet are those I'd let them crush my testes

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>>139587864
this

>>139588448
Why do all the railguns have chaika faces?

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>>139577777
>>139582123

>>139588371
Ann-Sofie Kylin

>>139587267
Agreed.

It's always easy to convince kids to play exclusive games.
"Look how special you are here's a secret only grown ups can keep..."

>>139588511
Same reason all Ah My Goddess characters have Frylock faces.

>>139577417
Whatever age progressives think it's right to choose your gender.

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>>139577777
>>139582123

>>139590210
Yet the child will agree depending on whether she finds you friendly and attractive. Also, adults play plenty of tricks on one another to draw interest.

>>139577417
12 like bible says.

>>139587093
...some weak-willed people think it's ok to push their insecurities and frustrations onto others.

"Wot i haf to fink o'reprucucksions for fucking children"
Yes. It's why so many nations were so fucked when children are left to birth and raise children.

>>139590266
Because Belldandy is #1 in the hood, G

>>139577777
wow 2 more years for me to wait ? Ok, that's not going to change anything anyway

>>139581939
Japan everything you have to do with sex is fucked up, I ain't googling shit. I don't care you can rape a 14 year old on a subway and nobody next to you will give a fuck, just keep it in Japan.

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>>139577417
13 in all honesty.

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Pedophilia is a mental illness. Pedophiles that have commit no crime should have access to voluntary incarceration if they fear they cannot control desires(through hentai, dolls, etc) and don't want to face execution. Once incarcerated they will be studied to find a cure, if no cure exists, they go to penal legions, work camps or can opt for voluntary castration and release back into general population. Child rapists should be executed immediately.

There is nothing biologically wrong with attraction to females capable of ovulation and breeding. That said there is at least some evidence to suggest females breeding as early as 11 can threaten the life of the child and the mother, for this reason I'd advise waiting to impregnate your early adolescent wife until she is 16, since most females will be able to safely breed by this point. Though we should strive to build a society free of whores and premarital sex so that AoC laws are not necessary.

Females should be trained to manage a house and raise children their entire lives, and they should begin meeting potential husbands when they get their first period. Premarital sex is degenerate, Commie "feminists" pls go and stay go

Allow me to reiterate: Pedophilia is a mental illness such as Homophilia or foot or scat fetishists(Thought foot and scat are less extreme and pose less of a threat) and they should have access to help if they can't hide their desires. Those Pedophiles that abuse pre-pubescent children are irredeemable trash that deserve nothing but death.

Hebephilia is perfectly natural and attraction to females capable of producing eggs to be fertilized is not comparable to attraction to pre-pubescents. While this is true, it isn't generally healthy to breed until the female is around 16, so she should wait until she is that age and married.

>b-but children can consent!
>b-but women deserve freedom to whore around!
>b-but Sodomites are people!
>b-but my feelings!
You deserve to be crucified.

>>139577417
every passing day i feel more attracted to little girls. i never asked for this. is there any way to stop these feelings?
>inb4 rope

>>139583502
>trying to bantz behind a memeflag

go home antifa, you don't know how this works

>>139591088
Typical cowardly world view of nrx

Obviously you've never had a girl attempt to molest you in front of her parents.

>>139591096
let them grow.

>>139591088
how does castration help them if it's a mental illness?

>>139591326
Lack of a dick makes it hard to have sexual desires.

>>139590580
Of course a child will agree.

Whether the child themselves had sexual intention or not, they can not control their urges it is why parents should be honest with children about these insticts.

*long post*
Personally, My mum always addressed my antics from age of 9/10. She was honest and as a result I was more knowledgable about these feelings and was conservative in my teenage years. Only copulating with partners after a brief time of relationship development.

It meant that when I was approached at age 11 by a pedo with my friend, who just wanted to help him find "his dog in the woods", I was instinctual inclined to help but because of my mum's talks I grabbed my friends had and ran to the nearest friends home. He was picked up by police a week later, after being successful in the assult of a girl we know :(

TLDR: a simple but hard talk from parents helps create awareness for the child.

>>139577483
FPBP.

>>139591352
Not really....

No AoC. AoC is a feminist invention. If you consider yourself a white traditionalist you must not allow any sort of age of consent laws for straight couples.

>>139591467
Please enlighten me, my eunuch friend.

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>>139577777
won't that cause birth defects?

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>tfw walked passed an asylum hotel
>a bunch of 14 year old swedish girls outside laughing and talking to the exotic black bulls

I cheered at them and started clapping, they mistook me for an american because of the clapping and said they hated me

>>139591395
>successful in the assult of a girl we know

You'd never have known if this was volitional or not.

see story in

http://web.archive.org/web/20050325114700/http://logicalreality.com/openbb/read.php?TID=424&page=1

>>139577417
Zero, abolish it.

>>139591528
Castration reduces the sex drive, I will not argue about that, but it does not eliminate it. The human body has multiple sources for producing testosterone, meaning you will reduce the risk of the pedophile, but you're not eliminating the problem until you cure his illness.

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If you are an adult you should never be with people who are considered underaged, but here's a fun comparison to another problem:

>be 20
>have sex with gf 14 years old
>People tell her she is not mature enough to make a decision to have sex yet
>i go to jail

>Boy be 7
>want to become trannygirl
>parents forced to encourage
>papers write about brave boy transforming to tranny
>YOU GO GIRL, NOONE CAN TELL YOU WHAT YOU CAN DO OR NOT DO!
>the whole country is on the boys side

I fucking hate society.

>>139577417
The younger should be older age/2+7

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>>139581726
This

>>139577417
16 - Young and mature enough to be proper wives without riding the cock carousel first. Legal age in my province, Québec

>>139591668

It's different because one causes the collapse of society and the other continues it's advancement (if it's done through marriage)

>>139587985
>mfw I've already seen all those

Add Maladolescenza to your list, senpai.

>>139591663
Well I suggest castration as a voluntary service, not something forced on the man for a thought crime. If he opted for castration and it somehow fails to make him feel safe with himself among the general population, he can return and head off to train for military service or a labor camp.

>>139577417
Probably 16.

>>139591052
this

>>139577417
Between 14-18 is reasonable in my eyes so 16 seems the optimal decision. You could feasibly give more power to the judiciary to make exceptions based individual cases to allow for early or late maturation. I don't know if precedent has already been set to that extent.

AoC should probably be somewhere around 14-16.

Anything else is just retarded - people start getting sexually aware at around 12-13. And most lose their virginity at around 16-17. Pushing AoC to 18 or whatever just makes it so that they can whore around with their underaged friends while genuine relationships are impossible because you get thrown into prison if anyone finds out

>>139577417
16

At that age teens are already aware what sex is and that you can get pregnant by it.

>>139591668

>be 14, just got through puberty and don't know what i wanna fuck yet
>some 20 year old abuses my naivete and has sex with me
>he gets away with it

>>139591581
No matter how much they feel it was good, it can never of been true consent.

Exploration between children should stay amongst children and not be taken advantage of by an Adult.

>>139591787
Impregnating teen girls? Sounds like a great idea, they will miss out on education and work and take the society back to the '20s.

It's better for both parts to start a family in your mid 20's up to early 30's. This way both of you will probably have atleast a good education or good work experience.

>>139592219
it could never have been*, Mohammad.

>>139577417
There should be no age of consent outside marriage.

Age of marriage should be 14.

When they start living independently from parents and earning their own money.

>>139577714
sounds hot as fuck

>>139592308
Apologies for my bad Grammar, I am stoned.

>>139584046
t. mehmet

>>139592219
Did you miss the part:


>There was a girl who joined my junior school when I was ten who had been in a relationship with a neighbour since she was 8 and at the time told me it was the most special and wonderful thing in her life.

or

>As early as 1937, Lauretta Bender and A. Blau (“The reaction of children to sexual relations with adults”, American Journal of Orthopsychiatry) studied a group of 16 children ages 5 to 12 who had sexual contacts with adults, and examined this same group again in 1952 with A.L. Grugett. They found no problems which could reasonably be attributed to the sexual experiences. On the contrary, they concluded that children who have sexual experiences with adults frequently turn out to be “distinguished and unusually charming and attractive in their outward personalities.”

>>139591395
>conservative
>partners (plural, outside of marriage)
Hohoho

>>139577417
Consent? Why?

In 1972 the Dutch psychologist and sexologist Dr. Frits Bernard published a study titled “Sex met kinderen” in which he dealt with a large number of adult persons (male and female) who, as children, had had sexual contacts with adults. He subjected them to several tests. Compared to the average Dutch population, these adults proved on the main to be better balanced, more tolerant, and more self-reliant in their relations with others.


Esteemed Dutch jurist Edward Brongersma published his magnum opus “Loving Boys” during 1986 and 1990. In it, particularly the second volume, his research found that boys who had had long-term consensual relationships with men were better lovers, husbands and fathers than those who led a sexually sheltered childhood. They were also more outgoing, successful in their chosen field, had lower divorce rates and a higher average income than those who had no such experiences. Brongersma’s incredible two-volume book contains hundreds of research references and personal anecdotes. It also has very interesting chapters about the evolution of the study of sexuality in the West and about sexuality in general. It is out of print but available on IPCE.


Theo Sandfort, Dutch academic and social psychologist, found in his 1994 study “The Sexual Experiences of Children” that: “Young people who had consensual sexual experiences at a young age now have more desire for sex; they are more easily sexually aroused, and have less fear of sexual contact. These results are the same, for both girls and boys, whether the partner was an age-mate or an adult. In addition, boys who have had such experiences are, in comparison with other boys, now more satisfied with their sexual lives.” Sandfort also did a study called Boys on their Contacts With Men where he took a look at 25 child/adult relationships (in this case, boy/man) in action, and found them to have a positive influence on the children's personalities and self-concept.

>>139592250
>take the society back to the '20s.

Yes thank you i want this

>It's better for both parts to start a family in your mid 20's up to early 30's. This way both of you will probably have atleast a good education or good work experience.

This is bullshit, you will have wasted your youth days whoring around and will then 'settle' down. For a woman this is the path to depression, misery and general unhappyness. For a man this is a path to cuckoldry, dead bedrooms, divorce and a worthless existence once he settles down and becomes a vegetable.

Most marriages are like you described today. Are people happy? Fuck no. Divorce rates are sky high among these types of marriages and cheating and dead bedrooms are rife.

You know who doesn't divorce and live in stable marriages? Couples who have little to no pre marital sex and marry when they are young.

Guess what, stay at home moms statistically are the happiest women around. I really wonder why.

>>139591514
I do think AoC becomes far less important if traditional family values return. The girls family will weed out any potentially maladapted individuals who propose to be a young girl's suitor and they would have far more control over the situation.

That's a significant departure from where we are though and would require a complete U-turn on women's rights and the like.

>>139592597
That's stupid, as such outcomes are determined by GENES and not policy

Why do you accept biodeterminism for races but not individual outcomes?

>>139577417

age of consent
why

>>139592196
It happens a lot anyway desu. The club in my home town was a complete minefield of young teens with fake IDs. It was a pretty redpilling sight.

>>139592597
>This is bullshit, you will have wasted your youth days whoring around and will then 'settle' down. For a woman this is the path to depression, misery and general unhappyness. For a man this is a path to cuckoldry, dead bedrooms, divorce and a worthless existence once he settles down and becomes a vegetable.

I dont know how it works in your country, but most marriages that dont work out is people marry not because of love and friendship but because they see marriage as a bussiness. People wont settle for someone in the working class so they marry someone for money, not love. This is what is leading to so many divorces.

>Most marriages are like you described today. Are people happy? Fuck no. Divorce rates are sky high among these types of marriages and cheating and dead bedrooms are rife.

See my first point.

>You know who doesn't divorce and live in stable marriages? Couples who have little to no pre marital sex and marry when they are young.

What a load of horseshit.

>Guess what, stay at home moms statistically are the happiest women around. I really wonder why.

This might actually be true, but it's also because these stay at home moms often dont have any education or work experience causing them to either stay at home or be a depressing bitch at a low end job.

>>139592405
it's spelled grammer moron

>>139592196
>Taking advantage of naive people should be illegal.
Says the Jew, whose people have convinced half of America that blacks are only doing worse than whites because of racism.

>>139587985
>Boys should be left to decide for themselves
>[catholic grooming intensifies]

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>>139577417
>this bread
Why you bastards just cant enjoy fully developed females?

>>139593001
>dont have any education or work experience
So? You're basically arguing that the education and forcing of women in to the work place is an unchecked evil which denies swathes of women a happy, biologically successful life.

>>139593001
>I dont know how it works in your country, but most marriages that dont work out is people marry not because of love and friendship but because they see marriage as a bussiness. People wont settle for someone in the working class so they marry someone for money, not love. This is what is leading to so many divorces.

Are you living in the middle ages right now? The exact opposite is happening today, people marry out of 'love' but because they keep whoring around promiscuity fries their brains and they become unable to form genuine relationships with people. The divorce industry needing money and divorces being financially sound for women is also a problem.

>>What a load of horseshit.

It's funny how leftists claim conservatives are backwards and dont accept statistics, science and facts but do the exact same thing when their worldview gets confronted by the exact same things.

>>139592808

So genes determined that japanese society, known for it's warrior caste of samurai, known for it's ruthless warrior culture and spartan code of honor turned into a bunch of worthless docile hikikomori betas?

Genes determined that american males, who stormed Omaha Beach on D-day turned into a bunch of SJW nu males?

Sorry i accept that there are some differences in behaviour between the races but the enviroment plays a large role as well.

>>139577417
12

>>139592508
Yes, and on the flip side you have PTSD and severe social anxiety.

I think the few pleasantries of child abuse should not out weigh the detrimental and consistent mental health issues which most encounters have exihibited.

The victim will almost always initially feel they are in a positive and rewarding relationship with the perpetrator.Drawn in by mystery and exploration developing a new understanding of the world.

Unless you are implying an adult should be a part of this journey, which could be easily contained in its own age range. How is this compatible to western morals?

>>139592808
Is that why within a society of people with the same genes as their parents outcomes differ so greatly?

>>139591088
AoC was usually 12 for Europe for most of history. This was because the game at the time was to breed as many men as possible to have in your army. You are likely the product of many generations of hebes. By the late 19th century the kikes had unified most of Europe, to the effect that war had greatly reduced, and this reduced the need for men on the battle field. The strategy of the kikes now became malthusian - " there's too many people ! ". The excess of men were competition to the aristocracy in their own nation. Also the wealthy men at the time controlled orphanages, and were making fortunes in selling children, the boys as cheap labour, the girls as knitters and sex slaves. As the wealth of the nations gradually increased towads the 20th century, the owners of orphanages began to see the increasingly prosperous common man as a threat that would diminish the control of the orphanage owner : so the AoC was increased. The ONLY reason certain things are illegal is to stop the common man competing against those in control. Pedo and Hebe are huge industries. To set the AoC back to the euro historic norm would wipe out $ trillions from world circulation. That cannot be allowed to happen, unless a more vital need overtakes the money. It has nothing to do with morals.

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>>139577777
checked

>>139592511
>>>139591395
>>partners (plural, outside of marriage)

One outside of marriage, one currently in marriage.
I don't why you really needed to know.
Inb4 kids=0

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>>139582602
T.Cheikh Abu Ivanka Al Amriki

>>139593466
You're not entirely devoid of a point but
>The ONLY reason certain things are illegal is to stop the common man competing against those in control.
Is making you sound extremely Marxian.

>>139577417
An adult can cut off or sow on anything they want, and put whatever bit they want in whatever other consenting adult they like. Couldn't care less.

Touching a kid inappropriately should be a short drop followed by a sudden stop. Period.

>>139593379
>consistent mental health issues which most encounters

No; that's factitious. The Rind study convincingly demonstrates otherwise.

>>139593359
>japanese society, known for it's warrior caste of samurai, known for it's ruthless warrior culture and spartan code of honor

Stop.

>>139593255
Im just saying that both parents should provide for their family.
If you prepare (education and employment) before you start a family you will most likely have a better future.

I dont know about you guys but most households cant survive with only 1 income if we are talking about normal working class families.

But perhaps you'd prefer to be a cockroach and live on the tax payers money.

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>>139593759

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>the best and most prime pussy by God's will is 14

Sex hurts children, period. I mean, imagine having a white hot slab of meat sliding into your rectum, filling you up from the bottom, a penis so big around that its girth presses out into your insides so hard that you can feel the contour of every throbbing vein. It's so enormous you can't help but grip it like you're hanging on for your very life. There are giant strong hands squeezing on your hips that almost wrap all the way around, like when you were held as a baby, kneading you. Behind you low grunts from lungs four times as big as yours, belonging to a powerful protective loving man, needing you. Soft sweaty hair against your behind as the penis gently, at first, pushes your organs out of its way. Your heart beats in your throat, as if the penis is pushing it all the way up there. Your skin seems to burn hotter and hotter as the pushes into you get faster. Eventually there's an even greater swelling inside you, so much that you think you're going to burst open, moaning somewhere, and then the penis shrinks, slides out of you, and you're left feeling empty but tingling all over with a warm spot in your center. Later there is a sadness because you know that you're growing so fast that you'll never be filled up quite as much as you just have been. But you can't wait for the next time.

>>139593824
>I dont know about you guys but most households cant survive with only 1 income if we are talking about normal working class families.

Exactly. A woman working in the family used to be a sign of the poor. Now it's empowering and progressive and other nonsense.

While you are interested in being a slave, normal people are concerned with their spiritual mental and physical well being of themselves as well as their kids.

>>139593946

Would cash out back

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>>139582123
Holy fucking god

>>139593824
I don't really disagree, people are acting fairly rationally given the current conditions. I'm just saying efforts should be made to change those conditions for the better and embrace positive traditional values which were thrown away.

>>139593759
The Rind Study.

This "study" you are referencing opted for a tiny portion of a college population.
A 'study' which was refuted and rejected in both instances it was submitted for peer review.

>>139594492
You suddenly know a great deal.

>>139577417
16. Almost all women are fully developed and ready then, biologically speaking. Not culturally though really.

>>139593824
And leave your kids in the Swedish state daycare system???? Nigger???

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>>139582123
U W0T

>>139593206
Beta mentality. They have convinced themselves that if they go for women around 22-24 (most fertile), they will get cucked and not have off-spring. They want a long-term realtionship with someone weak they can have full control over.

Another theory is that they never experienced "teen love", but I didn't lose my virginity before I was 18 and I never had these issues.

Nobody wants to fuck old people
If you put all the people who want to fuck kids and the people who want to fuck grannies in a fighting ring, the kid fuckers win by numbers

>>139593824
>But perhaps you'd prefer to be a cockroach and live on the tax payers money.
I would prefer if you stopped bringing in so many non-Swedes and started breeding some more, Swen. I don't care if that makes you look like a cockroach or if you live on tax payers money. Breed.

If you are not Swedish (native), then sterilize and deport yourself.

>>139595101
>you betas are just too weak for a strong independent woman who knows what she's worth
Where have I heard this before? And 22-24 isn't peak fertility you dumbass.

>>139595101
>if you discuss the topic you must be a pedo
Stop over-compensating.

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>>139593205
i was thinking /ss/

>>139577417
There should be no ARBITRARY age of consent. Let parents be parents.

>>139595666
This is probably ideal, within reason, but it requires a significant reordering of society and its values.

>>139595284
1. I didn't say betas were too weak in general. We all are clearly, look at what is happening to Europe. Actually betas are stronger than alphas in terms of being opposed to our destruction. I'm talking psychological reasons here, for why fully developed women are not seen as peak attractiveness (which is still the norm btw, pedos will try to normalize and claim that it's normal but it's not. Not saying you are a pedo).

2. 22-24 is indeed peak of fertility and attractiveness. Every study shows it. However, when looking for a long term partner, men prefererd around 18 I believe. But simply physical attractiveness and fertility is around 22-24. 30 more fertile than 16 too I believe the studies I have read have shown. Of course if you start breeding from the age of 16, you will have more children in total, but the chance of conception is much lower.

>>139595552
Who did I call pedo?

>>139577777
A A A A A A A A A A A A A A

>>139595865
What the fuck are you talk about, dude? That first point is so irrelevant I have no clue why you brought it up. All the studies I see only start measuring around the mid twenties, both for fertility and attractiveness, I figure they're afraid to find out the truth, that being that men like them young.

>>139596135
1. Because it's relevant to the guy I originally replied to. You are the one that replied to me, and if you lack reading comprehension you really should just lurk more.

2. It's scientifical to say that women in their early 20s until mid 20s are the most fertile. The most credible study I have seen, and it applied to real life experiences really, shows that men prefer women around 16-20 (start breeding from early age results in more children in total) for long term relationship and 20-24 for short term relationship (most attractive and most fertile, makes sense from evolutionary perspective).

Before you carry on, what is "young" to you? What age do you believe men prefer, both long-term and short-term?

>>139577777
>>139582123
INCLUDE ME IN SCREENCAP!!
THIS IS EPIC!!

>>139594589
Persuasive speaking requires emotion to appeal to an audience.
The fact I know more then I show, well let us continue the debate to find that out.

>>139596932
I've already put my position that child adult relationships nominally are:

volitional
commonplace
tender
positive

To which I've posted personal experiences and paper excerpts. I'm not trying to persuade you as I know you can post a thousand nih.gov studies on child abuse, all of which contain selection errors. I want to convince lurkers.

>>139577777
Also is the 7th reply in the thread.

>>139596678
I would figure 16-20 for both. We as a species descend from people that reproduced almost entirely with women around that age, earlier a lot of the time, I would think that reflects on our psychology. I'd like to see your studies by the way, not sure how much data there is for 16-20 year old pregnancies.

>>139597300
Actually, not nominally.

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>>139579590
unless its their own LMAO hypocritical neckbeard dreams

>>139597932
>>139597300
bible says the israelites took "women children" as their wives after defeating an army which is interesting

i would say marriage is essential

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>mods censor a webm that is from a movie uncensored on Youtube
>4chan is officially more censored than youtube