What is your most liberal position?

Power bottom

I think ketchup is an appropriate condiment for hot dogs.

>>139564067
Amazon (aka position X)

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>>139564067
Conserving nature. But I don't buy into this bs global warming scaremongering... just keeping pollution in the cities and leaving the country side alone.

>>139564067
Not all niggers should die just most

I respect islam

>>139564067
>liberal
Try to not play in that scale game. On political line me and my wife don't like political labels, but the closest would be the social democrat one. Historically happened that we live between Germany, Russia, France and Britain. My dad is a music teacher and quite a critical thinker and a nationalist, mother owns musical instrument shop, is apolitical, but dislikes foreigners, religion and jews. They both vote AfD(we moved to Germany when I was 13). I am sound technician at a cinema company, wife is a clinical psychologist. We are value reasonable oversight in economy with the merit-based welfare, friendly immigration for highly-skilled migrants needed for economy with a top-tier vetting system, state support for science, medicine, sport, nature, military and education. We oppose Islam, low-skilled mass-migration, censorship, foreign aid, political correctness, quotas, lobbying and uncontrolled surveillance. We vote AfD, attend PEGIDA rallies and anti-migration events. Have two kids of our own and two adopted girls, one from Nepal, another from Eritrea. In-laws are ok. Father-in-law is German guy, he works for BMW and a dedicated hunter and skier, very much like my dad. Mother-in-law is half-jewish through her mother(she was a Lutheran jew though, culturally and German by surname, family was never bothered during the Reich). She works in pharmacuitical business, protested Turkish migration back in the day and still does now, was critical of guilt inducing culture and Shoah industry. I would say our family is redpilled. Often we go on events all-together. Everyone votes AfD.

>>139564067
murder for anyone you disagree with

Non-gmo, organic food.

Buy organic if you can and stop eating zog feed.

I actually root for Iran to get a nuke.

>>139564067
prostitution and drug should be legal.

>>139564067
Universal basic income is a good idea (after the underclass has been gassed, of course).

>>139564067
people should be able to do what they want and government has no place in the bedrooms of the people

Open Borders for Israel

>>139564067
Abortion should be mandatory for overpopulated regions.

>>139564067
Pro-choice. Don't care about gays getting married. Think single-payer healthcare would probably be fine. Think most taxes are okay. Think environmental regulations are necessary.

NRA member. Republican. Own 30+ guns. Hate niggers.

Also donated to Planned Parenthood.

Fuck you.

>>139564067
the most liberal position is on the couch watching

>>139564331
I've never understood why environmentalism is considered a leftist pursuit.

>>139564067
I think immigration is good, i think diversity is good, i think multiculturalism is good. I think gun control is good, i think drugs should be legal, i support gay marriage and trans rights, i don't like American imperialism, I like Obama sort of, I am against the death penalty too but don't think it should be federally outlawed.

Cowgirl.

Don't judge me sometimes I just like laying back and relaxing while she works the shaft to please me.

>>139564536
Survival of the fittest is a good idea.

>>139564067
>your most liberal position?
letting her be on top

>>139564771
>why environmentalism is considered a leftist pursuit
Much like their other positions, they don't actually care about the environment. They see it as a way of controlling and oppressing people they don't like.

Whenever you hear about extreme cases of animal abuse (outside of farms), it's always a liberal torturing something for no reason other than to cause pain.

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>>139564067
i bet she has a nice dildo and strapon collection.

Cumming from anal

>>139565016
Don't say that. Liberals and Conservatives we are all Amerian! Don't hate your countrymen.

Solar power and abortion.

>>139564067
I hate Israel.

>>139564067
I'm a monetarist.

>>139564067
Abortion, kill all unwanted babies, especially the brown ones.

I don't give a shit what gays do and marijuana should be legal

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>>139564331
>>139564331
Agreed

Pro abortion...since it keeps the nigger population down.

Nature preservation is a good idea as mentioned.

Racism is still bad but the reaction to it now is absolutely absurd.

Non whites should be deported

>>139564067
Race war gas the kikes

>>139564771

Because it usually involves govt regulation or govt ownership of land

>>139564067
Jews must be eliminated

>>139564913
Same friendo, same.

>>139564067
legalization of prostitution which in today's society might just be a libertarian thing.

>>139564067
I'm okay with murdering people.

>>139564331
>>139564482
>>139564771
We live on this planet. There is nothing liberal about conserving what we have. That should be a basic human idea.

>>139565597
Trump hates you.

>>139564067
Higher taxes to gas the jews

>>139564067
there's literally nothing wrong with abortion

>>139564067
Not all jews.

>>139565597
I absolutely agree, just never understood the antagonism towards environmentalism from people who lean right or call themselves conservative. Global warming is iffy but there shouldn't be a debate on whether or not plastic islands should exist in the Indian ocean.

>>139564067
Single mothers should have access to government benefits. But there should be a pay scale based on the child's IQ. Also they should still be publicly shamed.

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>>139564067
I believe that people should be free to determine their own gender and sexuality.

Environmental conservation, we wish to keep beautiful homes, towns, and cities why should the country itself be an exception?

Pointless and wasteful use of plastic in particular seems a sin against my children.

>>139564481
Kek

>>139565943
>muh children
Fuck off virgin

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>>139564067
Women may not be sold into marriage they must consent to the marriage. In the rest I am to the right of Ghengis Khan.

I think we should annually decrease the amount of aid given to Israel

I don't mind higher taxes, but only if they are used wisely

I care about the environment

I want everyone to have access to good healthcare, and I think it can be solved by capitalism

Sometimes nation wreckers aren't always kikes, just mostly.

>>139564067
On all fours, bound, eating her farts for brunch

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>>139564675
What are you a quisling? Stay away. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>139564771
Most forms of environmental protection requires government intervention and regulation because it does not adhere to the free market. They force you pay a bottle tax to encourage you to recycle, because that isn't a profitable business. I say, throw all the bottles into the landfills, and if one day it becomes economically viable to recycle them, then people will literally dig them up themselves.

Healthcare/Education

i dont think jews should be gassed and blacks should be made slaves again

>>139566218
Genghis Khan was very left wing

>multiculturalist
>open borders
>globalist
>feminist

>>139564067
KKK did nothing wrong

>>139566390
You seem extremely short-sided.

>>139564067
wtf I hate t*rks no- oh wait I already did. She's a hot Armenian piece though.

>>139564067
Illegals should be deported not killed on sight.

>>139564067
True Capitalism is just as much of a crime against humanity as any degree of communism.

>>139566505
>short-sided
Holy fuck how embarrassing.

>>139564675
Crypto leftist

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>>139564067
she on top of me riding

education and healthcare should be free (but only in an ethnically homogeneous society)

>>139565901
plastic garbage islands are a meme.
that verbiage is used to scare people into believing the extremeness of the pollution problem, and environmentalists know this.
those "islands" ACTUALLY are areas of the ocean where a speck of plastic, even microscopic,
exists in a square meter of ocean surface.
you could be swimming in it and think you are in pure clean ocean water. you could fly over one for hours, looking out a plane window, and not know it's there, because it's invisible.

none of what i said means i don't think we shouldn't use biodegradable plastics for everyday stuff, though.

>>139566761
That's racist.

Pro abortion. Legalizing cannabis(strictly +21 and taxed)

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>>139564067

Global warming is real.

Global warming matters.

Global warming is the basis of identity.

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>>139564067
Liberally apply bullets to Commies.

>>139566917
>legalizing cannibis
Fuck off you absolute degenerate.

>>139564160

underrated

>>139565937
Fuck off faggot. Look between your legs to determine your sexuality and gender.

Okay, prostitution is not that bad, some drugs are fine, shitty art too I guess, these are things that make the population happy, so cut them and especially the working class some slack, let them have their fun.

>>139564441
>Amazon (aka position X)
no you don't

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>>139566493
Fuck I hate nu-pol. pic related

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Woman can vote.

>>139566994
>the government should have enough power to force you to not grow a plant and smoke it
What's it like being a statist?

>>139564675
yeah but you are thinking about black people when you donate

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>>139564067
Is it still liberal if I'm pro-choice because it kills more nigger babies?

>>139567135
You're the one who's the statist mate.

>>139564829
Why the fuck are you here with a kekistani flag?

>>139567275
fuck off leaf

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>>139564067
I'd let her bash my fash

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>>139564067
On the bed, ass up, with a man's throbbing cock inside me. Now it's your turn, Op. Tell me all your dirty little secrets ;)

>>139567342
Is that not the most liberal position?

>>139567289
Almost every kekistani poster is a liberal faggot.

socialized health care, housing, education, infrastruction, transportation, and police force

>basic income
literally no need for sheep of babylon

>>139564675
Hahaha, I'm basically 100% the same, but fuck niggers. I flip flop on planned parenthood though. On the one hand, I dunno when life begins, and I don't think the liberal cucks know or care either. They'd probably kill and fuck kids right out of the womb. On the other hand, planned parenthood kills more blacks than any other thing in the world - besides AIDs and other blacks. Totally fine with single payer and environmentalism too. They go way overboard with environmentalism though.

>>139564067
Mostly environmental shit. I don't want all my kids getting athsma because somebody built a coal plant next to my house.

I believe that postsecondary education should be free of charge for any student who shows a certain level of aptitude for their subject of choice, maintains a high GPA, and shows a work ethic befitting an adult.

>>139567454
I'm alt-right.

>>139564067
I support abortion because it keeps the black population down

>>139564067
I don't care if two dudes wanna get frisky, as long as they keep it to themselves, out of the public square, and don't try to make me tell them I think it's okay.

>>139567617
I fucking hate this. I got into University but my grades were all shit, under socialist system i wouldn't get in.

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>>139567355
great pic, great movie, great duubs

>>139567837
Good. If you throw away your education, society should throw you away.

>>139567800
You know we don't do that right? We go to the pride parades with the latex shit? That's not even half of what we do in our bedrooms. I pop squats on my boyfriends head, shit in his mouth and he chews it and spits it into my mouth. Believe me if we did what we did in the public square it would be a lot more cringy to you conservatives than the pride parade.

>>139567934
I never threw it away. I actually worked.

>>139567800
Ditto

The death penalty. I don't trust the government for taxes so why trust them to dish out lethal justice? Instead let's just get an island, wall it off, chip all the prisoners, and dump them there. If evidence comes out that they are innocent a chopper can come get them. If not they will kill each other eventually. We can live stream the island too. It will pay for itself

>>139565335
Fellow leaf knows

>>139564331
Pollution is categorically bad.
It's a shame faggots ruined environmentalism.

>>139568014
I'm working full time, I keep to an active social life, I stay fit, and I'm still attending school either full or part time (depending on the semester) as well, maintaining a 4.0 GPA.

>>139564771
environmentalism is a convenient way of arguing against and blocking shit you don't like.
for example arguing against wind turbines because of the birds they kill. (often right leaning folk argue against them)
leftwingers argue for lowering birth rates (directed at white families because they never use shitskin babies in the article pictures) because of muh overpopulation and environmental sustainability.
when leftwingers protest cleaning up los angeles river islands, islands formed from plants growing on debris or garbage in a concrete-bedded river, that makes people think that environmentalists are leftwing nuts.

>>139564067
animal rights

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>>139564261
The DOTR is coming...

If we're going to pay taxes healthcare and education should be paid for by the govt with said taxes.

>>139564441
Liarrrrr

i have 2 full sleeves

>>139568198
What the fuck would an animal do with rights?

>>139564331
conserving, conservative, how is that leftist?

mine would be I don't give a fuck about gays, niggers and other shit that doesn't apply to me, also abortions, I don't care what you do, just leave me the fuck alone.

>>139564771
Anything can be considered pollution with enough cognitive dissonance.

Even niggers

>>139568285
Once it's paid for by taxes the cost of it will skyrocket, now we're getting taxed 80% of wages. You're not Republican.

>>139564067
weed.

>>139564067

Legalize all drugs and let nature sort out the weak and feeble.

Only hardcore junkies allowed.

>>139564067
Israeli imperialism is evil.

>>139564160
underrated indeed

>>139564331
You almost had me switch my answer

>>139564771
By the way.
Environmentalism is originally a rightist movement.
Ecologism is leftist bullshit

>>139564067
Legalized drugs and end the war on drugs. Tax drugs and regulate them - will get rid of high cost pharma because they'll have real competition and will destroy Cartels and Gangs overnight.
Legalize prostitution - will bring in money to pay for health care and lower STD rates. Standardize testing and make a regulated industry out of it, with much of it being sex dolls anyways.

>>139568476
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>>139568561
Same as these fags.
Legalize pot

>>139564067
I don't care about race. I served in the Army for 6 years, there were definitely some shitheads but they were of every color.

>>139564067

i judge people by their actions, not their race

>>139564675
Holy shit when are running on the republican ticket?

You have my vote

i can't vote with a clear conscience the party that embraces identity politics and waiting for a brown demographic shift to consolidate power

>>139564331
This for me. Global warming or not, it's a bad idea for our environment and nature to just throw trash and pollution all over the place. The Great Barrier Reef is starting to die too because of chemical waste.

>>139564067
Solve the underlying issues in society to solve crime.

>>139564067
>Don't give two fucks about gays (not trannies)
>College tuition should be lowered by a significant degree, because I refuse to pay 2k-8k a semester for the college rabbi to brainwash me

>>139564067
I'd endure the worst torture ever conceived for the rest of time for just one night with her.

>>139568781
good goy, whiteness studies and social justice classes are now mandatory in order to gradute

>>139564771

Because giant corporations are the ones doing the polluting, and in order to fix the problem, it requires regulating them. The "right wing" position on everything is to let corporations and any other private business do whatever the fuck they want regardless of how much external damage they cause.

>>139568781
But the republicucks don't want you to get dem edumacations in the first place.
Now why is that?

>>139568158
Well I go to school, pay attention, come back and go on 4chan all day.

>>139568756
What do you suppose those are? Poverty or something else?
How do you propose to solve that?

Pro-Abortion, because all of the women I've met that have admitted to getting one I wouldn't want to breed anyways.

>>139564067
>What is your most liberal position?

Healthcare should be 'free' for everyone.

And by everyone I mean after all non-whites are purged.

>>139568903
Rehabilitation to return criminals back out.

Put them on a welfare program with a job to pay back what they owe (dependent on crime of course)
Educate so when the criminal is out there's less chance of crime reoccurring.

It's that or keep throwing in criminals into prison for petty dumb shit like having marijuana.

>>139564067
im too weak to openly advocate against female sufferage

Doggystyle

>>139568158
Your social life contributes to your good grade.

That wage increases have not been commensurate with productivity increases and inflation; something must be done about this in order to maintain the integrity of this nation.

>>139564067
environmentalism.

>>139569046
Also this.

Medical expenses are the leading cause of bankruptcy and induction into the welfare system. Rich need to be taxed to ease this up.

By going into a universal healthcare system the load is greatly spread across all and then the insurance system can be kept for those who need / want non-necessary surgery

>>139567951
Be as degenerate as you want on your own time among consenting adults... Be as flamboyant in public as you want... You won't see me grab assing my wife in public. I require the same courtesy and I will push back.

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>>139564067
I don't think women should be chained to stoves in the kitchen.

However, considering the direction that USA has gone in over the last fifty years I'm willing to consider the other side's arguments.

Pic related. It's mfw antifa wakes up the normies to the fact that we need rwds

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>>139564067

after jerking it to gooks for months on end, white girls look like trannies

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>>139564067
the war on drugs is a failure and we should start to try something different like forced rehab or something, prisons dont seem to rehabilitate these people in fact its like were teaching them how to be criminals then we fuckin release them back into the wild.

>>139564067
Sometimes when I'm really really drunk, I feel like some of them are human.

>>139567275
kek

>>139564067

Not sure

University education should be state-subsidized (but only those courses who have marketable skills).

Support for Universal Healthcare (assuming there are no subhumans and fat cunts ruining it, so basically only after ethnic cleansing based upon IQ tests and mandatory water fasting camps for the overweight).

People and groups that corrupt environmental conditions should be forced to pay for it's maintenance and recreation.

Animals shouldn't be factory farmed.

Money should be removed from politics (donations and lobbyists should be banned)

Press organizations should have to have a maximum share percentage per person/family, so they don't become propaganda machines for you know who.

>>139567275
lmfao

>>139567275
Holy shit my sides

>>139564067
69

>>139567275
keksimus maximus

>>139564067
anal sex is enjoyable.

>>139567275
FUCKING KEK

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>what are post id's

legal weed

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Abortion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legalized_abortion_and_crime_effect

>>139569064
I believe education is one of the greatest factors in one's quality of life, but ghetto children (read: niggers, natives, even wiggers etc) need to be separated from anyone who wants to learn, because they drag everyone else down due to their bullying and disruption.
Separation will never happen, because everyone knows ghetto niggers will be expelled the most, and dat be raycist.
There is ample video, twitter, anecdotal evidence that blacks are shit students and also more evidence that forced integration is when black education went on the decline. (Read Thomas Sowell.)

>>139564067
I'm pro-choice. I think we should let the minorities continue to abort their babies. I'm actually fine with government funding for minorities to get abortions.

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>>139569575

Does this image remind you of yourself?

>>139564067
legal weed

>>139569963
I don't disagree with any of this for sure.
This is also why I think the Nazi's had a good idea with eugenic programs.

>>139564160
Underrated.

>>139565016
>They see it as a way of virtue signalling to feel better about themselves
ftfy
the controlling and oppressing people they don't like part is merely a symptom

>>139564067
Pro abortion.
For non whites.

>>139564067
I honestly don't give a fuck about abortion since most abortions are performed on black women.

I don't necessarily hate gays, I just wish they'd shut the fuck up.

That's about it, I guess.

Legalize all drugs. But also on the same side, I want all safety nets removed for drug addicts so they die quicker.

>>139567590
Haven't the statistics proven that white women get the most abortions?
I don't know, it seems like more kids = more welfare/ tax reductions so sheboons would love to pop out more kids.

save the trees

>>139564067
legal weed
das it mayne

>>139570077
thats 100% untrue you fucking idiot. Middle class and rich white women get abortions, black whores havbe0-328-90238 kids with different men

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>>139564067
Every point of view is legal. Not only nazis should be legal, hardcore jews should be legal too. People are allowed to fuck children, but people are allowed to murder those people for that as well.

I don't want to kill all the other races; I just want them to go back to wherever they can call home and never come back.

Abortion

But I mostly support it because it disproportionally prevents full grown niggers

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>>139564067

I care a shit ton about animals and the environment

Hearing about rain forests being and animals being hunted near to extinction

It gets to me

Just stop fucking with the planet

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>>139564067
Native American Holocaust Memorial

>>139564675
There is literally 0 reasons for faggots to get married. They cant reproduce, and they have sexual partners in the hundreds. The only reason why they lobby for it is because their faggot lifestyle is a faux paux on society, and getting married is even more so.

>>139564067
abortion should remain legal

>>139569911

that was when she was thick. she looks like aids now

>>139570247
wrong.

White niggers are the most dangerous people

>>139564067
I think abortions are a good way to keep crime down, I don't give a fuck what faggots do, and even though I don't use it marijuana should be legal.

>>139564067
Anal sex

>>139564611
I agree. Israelites need to learn multiculturalism and progress.

>>139570166
>>139570166
>FACT: Not every state reports abortion by ethnicity, but those that do reveal that abortions to blacks and Hispanic women account for 55.4% of the 405,795 abortions reported by race. This number is disproportionate considering the fact that black and Hispanic women only comprise roughly 29% of the total U.S. population.

>https://concernedwomen.org/abortion-demographics-who-has-an-abortion/

>>139564913
Pretty sure it benefits her too but I may be wrong

>>139564331
Being dirty and disgusting is just a shitty way to behave. Whether its a fucked up yard or being a polluting degenerate spewing stink and gunk everywhere.

I understand you can't have industry without a certain level of dirtiness, just don't be careless and lazy about dealing with it. Respect your neighbors and community and keep it clean.

>>139570282
don't forget, you get a property tax break when you are married. this is because (((they))) assume you will produce children.

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>>139569242
Stop posting.

>>139564067
Reverse cowgirl... feels like a hungry twat is devouring my ween

>>139564160
Fpbp

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>>139564067

I care about the environment more than just about anything else.

I care about climate change, animals going extinct, pollution, overfishing, urban sprawl, deforestation, litter - all of it.

I care to the point that I would, were it in my power, happily kill off billions of humans to save the environment. Most humans are fucking garbage. Some of alright. A few are good.

But we don't need 7 billion humans. We don't even need 3 billion. The world population was 3 billion in 1960 and we seemed to get along just fucking fine.

>>139564067
cowgirl

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>>139570247

the only white girls who get abortions are the white trash ones. the high class ones never get to the point where they would need to abort the child. they are just really good at using birth control

>>139565937
gas yourself. now.

>>139564771
I don't know, either, because I can guarantee the conservatives I know spend a considerable amount of time outdoors compared to my liberal acquaintances.

Me:
>Civic Nationalist
>Socially Liberal
>Fiscally Conservative

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>>139564067
Probably Conservation.
Generic free healthcare (single payer) but I'm only 99% on that because I have no idea what price we pay for what drugs or what drugs we deny
Also public healthcare has delays, I haven't experienced it myself but I'm just going on word of mouth

>>139570451
>to keep crime down
Yet the crime of infanticide keeps rising.

>>139570946
infanticide is non-existant here with free abortions
Also teen pregnancy is lowish

>>139571189
Abortion is infanticide. You are killing the infant.

Don't hurt animals, but you can fuck em.

>>139571370
You mean fetus
Not infant

>>139564331
>Liberals care about humanity
>That's why they give money to mega corporations like Apple, which uses Asian slave labor
>Liberals care about nature
>That's why they protest to protect the land but leave behind a bigger scar on the earth than a bulldozer ever could
>Liberals care about eating healthy
>That's why they enable obesity and tax small businesses to print "Organic" or "GMO" on their yield - because breeding crops is B A D
>Liberals care about animals
>That's why they go to zoos, or uhh, give money to people on the tv or... adopt a couple kittens or some shit. Yeah. That helps. GO LIBERALISM! XD
>Liberals care about the environment
>That's why they drive those high tech hybrid cars that will break down and need to be replaced in the next 10 years because no fucking mechanic will work on it, in the next decade (or remember/know how)
>Liberals care about the ocean
>That's why they eat more fish because at least it's not a cow - Fish is good for you! So what if it has high concentrations of nuclear material and mercury!? Fish makes you smart!
>Liberals care!
>That's why liberals shitpost the unfunniest and least accurate garbage over social media on a CONSTANT basis! GOOO LIBERALS!!
But one thing Liberals got right was birth control. Without their self-hate, we'd be overrun by useful idiots by now! Thanks Jews! You really outdid yourselves! Abort ALL the babies! Wrap up ALL the dicks! Give ALL the progressive diversity cronies AIDS!

>>139571546
The child. The mother's offspring, or any irrelevant terminology you concoct as an attempt to dehumanize our societies' most helpless and vulnerable: this is the greatest evil of our era.

>>139564331
Well the EPA was founded under a republican president.

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>>139571827
>dehumanizing a non-sentient blob of undifferentiated cells

>>139571827
>irrelevant terminology
It's not infanticide as you claimed. That has a legal definition and does not fit the act of an abortion.
>this is the greatest evil of our era
You might be right.
That as well as contraception has made possible the great perversion of today's western women and de-masculinity in men

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>>139564067
I agree with Che on this. he was a communist so I figure it would be a pretty liberal position

>>139572121
>non-sentient
wrong, the word you're looking for is sapient retard
>blob of undifferentiated cells
You're a blob of cells. Some of your cells, right now at this moment, are undifferentiated. The only difference is that the human at its earliest stages of development requires a body composed of more labile cells.

>>139570282

to be a pedant here, marriage does neatly bundle up some legal concerns over health matters, shared property, etc. It might actually be less paper work than them filing all that shit separately.

>>139572221
>does not fit the act of an abortion.
only because of unjust laws

>>139564771
Conservation of specific areas is fine and noble pursuit. But (((environmentalism))) is progressive cancer

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bent over.

THE gay stuff, abortion stuff, I voted trump.

>>139572469
laws or morals?

>>139564067
So who is the broad?

>>139572713
laws, morals, and ethics

>>139564067

I believe that humans should strive to be the best they can at whatever they choose; just try not to break the law.

>>139564067

Basically Nazism but with marijuana legalized to take the edge off

>>139572748
Looks like TYT Anna?
>>139572799
so you mean morals?
Morals define ethics and law right?

>>139566657
It's a hockey term bruh

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>>139568544

THIS BRAH!! but seriously.

Pea-brain leftists like to think that preserving the environment is as simple as slapping more regulation and gov into it.

What they cant get through their heads is the fact that preserving ecosystems and species and glaciers and whatever the fuck is reliant upon incentive to do so, whether it be society, government, you name it. A simple fix on paper is another law or mandate.

Societies are complex. You don't solve environmental issues rooted in complex societies with simple answers. This is actually a metaphor for why the left is wrong in so many ways in application but pristine in doctrines and manifestos.

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>>139572121
>being this retarded
holy shit you're nigger tier you fucking kike

legitimate question for the folks who are OK with contraception but oppose abortion.

How do you feel about Plan B/morning after pill interfering with a fertilized eggs implantation into the uterine lining? Its a genetically complete person at this point, but is it past the point of no return?

>>139572965
Abortion is evil.

>>139564067
There's plenty, but frankly the biggest issue that I can identify with leftists is that the goddamn minimum wage is way too fucking low.

>>139564331
Hitler has a huge environmentalist.

>>139573138
Well the people that made the law can't be too evil unless all the other laws are evil and unethical right?
So clearly there is a side to their reasoning that you have not explored or listened to, right?

>>139573265
In his cupboard?

my most liberal position is we should adhere strictly to the constitution as it was written in 1776

>>139573350
I've heard it all. There is no justification for abortion.

>>139573435
Would that mean all citizens gun ownership would be restricted to weapons of the times?

>>139569911
totally would lose it all for a fuck

>>139564067
Right to abortion before brain function begins (when it really is a consciousless mass of cells)

If you believe in a minimum wage ever being ethical how do you feel about municipal minimum wage laws? I can see folks expecting more than $7.25/hour to work in New York City because no matter how high the rent gets you still need a fucking janitor. What fits NYC doesn't fit the rest of the state though, and this gives at least some local determination.

>>139564067
Due to automation, we will probably have to have stipends for Americans.
Which is why I'm so anti illegal immigration.
Dead weight etc.

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>>139564067
>Tfw libertarian in a (((multiculti))) society with non white leaches but social democrat in an all white ethno-nationalist state

>>139564067
Abortion is fine/Women deserve equal rights (which they already have).

Gay marriage is fine as well. Gay people getting married doesn't devalue my marriage at all. I don't think marriage works well for gay folks because of the level of promiscuity that they engage in, but if they want to try it (and fail miserably), they can go ahead. Others failing at marriage just makes mine look better.

>>139573511
of course not

>>139573472
Okay so you are against the 'morning after pill' killing a fetus of a few cells.
What about contraception?
Are you not denying the existence of a sentient being?

>>139573594
Consciousness =/= humanity. Sleeping people are unconscious.

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>>139564261
>Ketchup on hot dogs

Fucking baby raping communist over here!

>>139568466
astute observation, newfriend

>>139564675
Agreed on everything.

>>139573783
>'morning after pill' killing a fetus of a few cells
yes
>contraception?
As long as it doesn't prevent implantation/attack the zygote, I don't like it but that doesn't kill anyone/lead to miscarriage.
>Are you not denying the existence of a sentient being?
I am acknowledging the child is a sentient being and deserves to be protected by the law, like all of us.

>>139573511
If we're taking that dipshit of an argument, are we getting our slaves back? Will people be forced to wear older design styles of fabric? Of course not. The 2nd Amendment was kept broad on purpose so that it could grow with the times.

>>139564675
Im a liberal from San Francisco but agree with everything yousay including the NRA and I do, i do fuck niggers. Big titted fine ass milloto nigresses. I fuck the shit out of them.
Im republican when it comes to business and liberal when it comes to most social issues because fuck the government telling me how to live my life.

Im also pro death penalty, anti regulations except pro enviromental to a certain extent. Im fucking tired of being called demoncrap or recuckican, Im niether. My political decisions arent made based on the hive mentality, I prefer logic

>>139564331
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>>139573265
>all these lefty enviro-fags
boy, the kikes sure brainwashed the millennials good and hard

I want everyone to die.

>>139564067
I think multi-culturalism is a benefit to humanity. Although by this I mean that the diverse nations of the world should work together, not that every negro and paki should be stuffed into one tiny part of the planet.

>>139574100
>are we getting our slaves back?
well yeah

>>139574164
>anti regulations except pro enviromental to a certain extent
adding you to the list of anons who needs to be ovened

>>139574268
that's not what multiculturalism is though

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>>139574093
>it doesn't prevent implantation/attack the zygote
Are you aware of what most contraceptives are?

I'm kind of okay with pro choice just because there would be 4x as many niggers

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>>139564331
This. If we behave the same way Brazil, China, and India behaves we will doom the entire planet. But we shouldn't give up on dominating energy consumption.

Cacaskins are far more detrimental to the health of the earth as a whole than whites could ever even hope to be.

Also think we should work to phase out coal power asap and replace it with wind, nuclear, geothermal, solar and hydroelectric. And have strick punishments for companies and individuals the pollute or litter.

>>139574093
Sorry Anon, gotta shoot off
Debate you later

>>139564067
Rich globalist types working against the Republic and its people should be imprisoned and have their wealth confiscated and used for education programs for homeless veterans and other american homeless

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>>139574164
Personally anti death penalty.
I think once you loose right to life, you loose human rights, so why don't we use them for experiments?
I'm not saying be cruel, just that being able to have access to an undamaged arm would be useful in researches for replacing arms etc.

>>139564331
Agreed. We should at the try to preserve our lands for future generations to enjoy. If we shit up the country then we just turn into india.

>>139574350
"Actual" multiculturalism can only result in the breakdown of society, or the eventual formation of a bland monoculture with no real identity. As such I don't consider it to be multiculturalism.

>>139574214
>t. Oil shill

>>139574367
Yes, I understand physical barriers like male/female condoms are what people usually mean when they mention contraception however various chemical based methods can be harmful. For instance, IUDs cause physical birth defects in children if they are not removed in time and are thus unacceptable.

>>139564067
Not all kikes should be gassed.

>>139564067
Women are, at least under the strict biological definition, human beings.

>>139574579
are you saying multiculturalism isn't multiculturalism?

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>>139564067
if everyone who still unironically supports Trump died tomorrow, I'd party nonstop for a week

>>139574466
bye kiwi-anon

>>139564067
I think all nonwhites should be aborted.

>>139564300

>patrician-tier, my dude

>>139568898
underaged

>>139567590
Im a liberal born n raised in sf, guess what i agree with your stance 90%. Except Im prochoice, because people shouldn't allow the government to control their bodies. Im anit drug, but believe it's not a policing issue it's a mental health issue. Im pro death penalty, I cant take the high road on whorbortion and not kill of pedos and murderers. I want single payer but government regulations go o overboard. So even though Im pro environment, I dont think its necessary to stop large projects like bridges to save some fucking birds.

Our leaders make us think we are different. But in all honesty, poor/middlr class republicans and democrats have more in common than their rich rulers.

All those rich republicans and democrats are either closet buttfuckers who point the finger at others or baby sacrificers who worship moloch. Me n u can find a way to see eye to eye on most things. Its the rich that convince us we're different

>>139574676
I'm saying that what liberals and leftists like to call multiculturalism is in fact the opposite, whether they realise it or not.

>>139574606
nope, as your countryman in this thread stated, (((environmentalism))) is just an excuse to expand government power and push globalism at any cost. There are free market solutions like donating to non-profits which set up and maintain nature preserves. But begging government to come and make every good and service that you buy way more expensive and paving the way for global government is retard-tier logic.

But I watched your generation get brainwashed from infancy so I'm not surprised that so many of you turned out they way that you did. It's just incredibly pathetic.

>>139564067
American Blacks should get their should get their own country made from American territories not continental us.

Can't believe that the two party system in the US has tricked people into falsely believing that if you support one thing then you must support another unrelated thing.

>You support protecting the environment. That means you must also support open borders, gay marriage, #RefugeesWelcome, BLM, feminism, and socialized healthcare!
>You support strong borders and deporting illegal immigrants. That means you must also support lower taxes for the rich, less regulations, higher military spending, banning marijuana, and be pro-life!
Be your own person, so many people form their political stances based entirely on their preferred party's stance on the topic.

>>139574948
i don't think things actually have homogenized to the monolithic culture yet.

>>139564482
>this

from my perspective, only for Switzerland: wellfare is ok for nationals. most of them have mental and/or other health issues and there should be more support and coaching. not playing by the rules or foreigners not assimilating should be put on emergency support and put in correction facilities or expelled.

I'm gay. Have only had one partner though and it's long term. Would not mind switching teams if a decent and traditional female I can have a family with came into my life .

>>139564300
my fucking man

>>139575169
fuck off fag

>>139574971

How do you feel about the nation parks?

>>139575169
>biscum

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>>139571546
Fetus is a scientific euphemism. own up to the language jew

>>139575549
kiwi-anon left, my fellow burger

>>139575071
No, because we're heading for collapse. I grew up attending international schools, which act as a perfect example of where the multicultural experiment leads if it actually "works". Each school I attended, despite being thousands of kilometres apart and populated by people of many different origins all had the same standard Americanised monoculture. This worked because the communities were so small and organised, and everyone had a similar background. However, if you try to scale this up to a national level you end up with something like the Austro-Hungarian Empire, which crumbled as soon as the idea of the politicised populace became a reality and people took note of their place in the world.

tl;dr Nations are the be all and end all of human societal structure and nothing is going to change it. That doesn't mean we can't get along however.

>>139574214
I'm 38 newfag, and I like hunting, hiking and camping, you must be a city fag.

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>>139574971
>nope, as your countryman in this thread stated, (((environmentalism))) is just an excuse to expand government power and push globalism at any cost.
You have an unfalsifiable belief.
It's wrong because it has no explanatory power; no matter what justification is given for a policy decision there is always an ulterior motive. If it's not apparent how one could exist then that's simply evidence of how deep the conspiracy goes. Conspiracy thinking of this sort is always incorrect.

>There are free market solutions like donating to non-profits which set up and maintain nature preserves.
We don't need a free market solution, we need to organize our society to understand property rights are not hard rights and that ecosystems are irreplaceable and we all have a duty to maintain them.

>But begging government to come and make every good and service that you buy way more expensive and paving the way for global government is retard-tier logic.
Not sure where to begin with a comment like this; very broad assertions alluding to a problem with international cooperation and a framework of government regulation superimposed on the economy, but without pointing out specifically what the problems are.

>But I watched your generation get brainwashed from infancy so I'm not surprised that so many of you turned out they way that you did. It's just incredibly pathetic.
I'm brainwashed but the anti-globalism crowd is still apparently low information and low intelligence. Globalism isn't good or bad. Nationalism isn't good or bad. It's all in the application. Do the specific policies improve economic performance, quality of life, and protect the environment and non-human life?

>>139564445
Did you forget to turn off your slav proxy?

>>139564829
Multiculturalism has gone too far in some ways.
Even if it isn't a legal requirement, it's a matter of courtesy to try and accommodate the people you live with within reason. If one moves into a new society, one shouldn't ghettoize themselves with their community and one should do their best to adopt the dress and language at least.

As far as immigration goes I think it's fair to vet migrants by cultural background in some instances. We all have responsibility to care for displaced people. We should do whatever we can to facilitate construction and operation refugee camps and failing that to pressure neighboring countries to accept refugees and provide them security. Resettling them abroad should be a last resort and always temporary until another country is willing to securely allow them to resettle.

>>139575740
>tl;dr Nations are the be all and end all of human societal structure and nothing is going to change it. That doesn't mean we can't get along however.
ok i agree with that. i don't think it's a liberal position :)

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>>139564067
I have a ton, if we are using the word "liberal" correctly.

A true liberal is supposed to be more of a libertarian. Libertarians are so open-minded their fucking brains fell out though. In the current political climate I'm a fucking nazi. If I had to self-associate I would be halfway between a libertarian and a nationalist, as paradoxical as it is.

"Liberal" has been hijacked by the MSM and powers at be to mean some kind of authoritarian leftist, such as a marxist communist. Sometimes they try to paint it as ancom. Liberal is supposed to just be people who are wary of hobbe's leviathan.

According to the current sentiment, I am liberal because I support: abortion, conservation of nature, personal freedoms, drug legalization, stem cell research, and euthanasia.

In reality half of these aren't liberal at all. In all honesty I just want to be left the fuck alone. If democrats were actually liberal they would be against gun control, just for example.

Horseshoe theory is real and alive in the bipartisan landscape of US politics. Fucking infuriating. Then again, I don't believe in democracy, so fuck it.

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I believe that website owners have the right to censor whatever they want on their own website since it's their property.

I also believe all people are created equal and give all new acquaintances an equal amount of respect regardless of skin color or gender until they do something that I can judge them for as an individual. I do notice the patterns, but I'll still give everybody I meet the benefit of the doubt rather than immediately stereotype them.

>>139577201

Thomas Sowell is pretty African American, and hes damn hard to argue with.

>>139577201
>I also believe all people are created equal and give all new acquaintances an equal amount of respect regardless of skin color or gender until they do something that I can judge them for as an individual. I do notice the patterns, but I'll still give everybody I meet the benefit of the doubt rather than immediately stereotype them.

That's called just being a person.

>>139564067

Im a Jim Webb Democrat who voted for Trump

>>139564160
kek

>>139576606
>i don't think it's a liberal position

Maybe I'm just too far gone to properly gauge how liberal my views really are.

>>139577461
Yeah, but around here, I get called a liberal SJW leftist apologist retard each and every single time I post one of those two things.

>>139564160
Nothin but win

>>139564067
That liberals should be thrown in prison for tolerating error.

>>139567131
easily the worst and most destructive position to hold. kill yo self foo

>>139564067
Black communities must be respected, protected and uplifted economically. They must integrate well into society, not with victimism ideologies, but hard work and cash.

>>139564067
Universal income, healthcare, and education should be enshrined as rights for every American*. I believe that there should be a purge of at least 20% of the US population. Niggers, Jews, criminals, degenerates, fat people that refuse to get healthy, and politicians need to go get ashy before we enact my form of liberalism. in fact I would happily be a Social Democrat if there were no Niggers and their Jew masters.

>>139564067
Abortions are good, I don't want people that would have an abortion to have children. If only they castrated them after...