/pol/ BTFO!

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>>139558917

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>God hates the Jews so much he allowed them to be bug sprayed to death and turned into lamps and soap

This thread again. Let me clarify:
>the holocaust didn't happen
a good thing
>6 million jews were killed
a good thing

It's a win-win either way. Chin up pal.

>>139558917

It's bullshit and the Jews made it up as a kooky legend. There is not a single atom of evidence for any of the so called "Holohoax" myth.

I believe that the Holocaust happened, but it's not as bad as the Holodomor (((wow it's not even shown as a word on the computer how convenient)))

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>>139559878
>There is not a single atom of evidence for any of the so called "Holohoax" myth.
Sure there is. Read the link, buddy. It's all there.

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>>139560325
>he does it for free

>>139560669
Huh?

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>>139558917
please get out goyim

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>>139558917
back to playground, buzzfeed, pictoline, redit, that fucking propaganda for goyims pls

I knew that the Simpsons were running out of ideas for episodes

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>>139558917
What are you trying to accomplish here? Convince Natsocs that the Holocaust happened? That would only make them happy.

>>139562490
Yes. And satisfied. And sap their fervor.

I mean, Holocaust did happen, but NatSoc leaders want to deny it.

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Any actual arguments, /pol/?

All I've gotten so far are memes and buzzwords.

Really makes me think.

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>>139566368
>>139565741
I'll bite

so whats this all about?

>>139558917

>Rationalwiki

Dude.

>the Holocaust is a hoax, you're a confirmed retard

Holocaust is not a hoax, but you need to be a special kind of retard to think that it wasn't milked dry, including using it as defence when Jews piss into society soup YET ANOTHER TIME.

Here is an example of yet another time Jews decided to shit into common soup, and then whine about holocaust when it produced consequences.

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/03/opinion/when-a-school-board-victimizes-kids.html?mcubz=0

>>139567079
Let's archive it
https://unvis.it/www.nytimes.com/2015/06/03/opinion/when-a-school-board-victimizes-kids.html?mcubz=0

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>>139566997

seriously, why do you continue to post this shit as if it means anything?

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>>139558917
>watch a dozen hours of video and see if you can still believe the lie

>b-but I heard 6 million died in the holocaust!
Normies swallow 6 gorillion because they never critically examine such a grisly topic, believing (((Hollywood))) and Allied history is 100% factual

>b-but what about the Nuremberg trials! Some Nazis admitted war crimes, so it must be true Hitler had a Final Solution to kill all the Jews!
Allies tortured German POWs. Gerstein claimed 25 million were killed, does that sound believable? At Dachau Nazis had their testicles kicked in and crushed beyond repair

At Auschwitz, (((Soviets))) said 4 million died in gas chambers. Today, the death toll sits at 1.1 million (from ALL causes), though still grossly inflated going by Red Cross reports
>Auschwitz - Why The Gas Chambers Are A Myth:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE56dcgGVMs

>b-but it wasn't just Auschwitz!
At Majdanek, (((Soviets))) said 2 million were killed in gas chambers.
Now they say <60,000 died (primarily of disease). Red Cross estimated 8,800
>The Majdanek Gas Chamber Myth:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDsJtB2F9i8

>b-but the Reinhard death camps: Treblinka, Sobibor, and Belzec!
There is little to support the claim that tens of thousands, let alone 1.3 MILLION died
>1/3rd of the Holocaust (debunked):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dxsVSzL4HE

>b-but Nazis made lampshades out of tattooed Jewish inmates!
The lampshade myth comes from a propaganda film made to de-Nazify Germany by a US Psych Warfare unit
>Buchenwald: A Dumb Dumb Portrayal of Evil:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HlPcaP9x5o

>b-but I've seen Steven Spielberg's Survivors of the Shoah!
Watch the following
>The Last Days of the Big Lie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80GgRWuXcO8

>o-ok, let's suppose you're right. Why does it matter?!
It matters because no one can criticize the Jews without being labeled an anti-semite. Denial is ILLEGAL in 20 countries
>The JQ:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKy3fCvMz-8

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>>139558917
>rationalwiki
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Political_correctness
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Misandry
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Gender
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Rape_culture

>>139558917

also, rational wiki is a pure shit source

So what if the holocaust supposedly occurred, what's wrong with killing subversive parasites who refuse to leave your country?

He'll delete soon the entire thread haha

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>>139558917
The only thing of substance on that page is the Jäger report, which didn't publicly exist until the Soviet Union, a very trustworthy source, released it in the 60's, when the Holocaust agenda really started to ramp up. The rest is hearsay, unreliable source, or discrepant.

Provide actual evidence. I'll even take an internal document recovered that lies out the systematic genocide of Jews. That does not mean the Wannsee conference, which has no substance to back the genocide narrative, only justified Jewish persecution.

>>139567354
>who refuse to leave your country?

They didnt just go after jews in their country anyway, they invaded other countries and literally rounded up jews there to kill them or to force them into slave labor.

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>>139567483

>the soviet union released it, so its automatically wrong!

this isnt an argument

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>>139558917

How about we test the feasibility of the Holocaust by giving it another run?

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>>139558917
After what Jewish communists did in Russia and what they tried to do in Germany, Hungary, and many other countries, locking them up is totally justified. They had proven themselves time and again to be against the nations that so graciously allowed them to settle

It's no surprise Ukraine saw the Nazis as liberators

>>139567508
Didn't they just invade the land, then get rid of the Jews? I don't think getting rid of the Jews was a primary mission. They wanted to take over the whole world first, side goal eliminate Juice.

>>139567592
>trusting soviets

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>>139558917
>RationalWiki
what a fag, I hope you die of starvation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqJBGB5yKTk

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>>139567483

also this

>"I commanded Auschwitz until 1 December 1943, and estimate that at least 2,500,000 victims were executed and exterminated there by gassing and burning, and at least another half million succumbed to starvation and disease, making a total of about 3,000,000 dead. This figure represents about 70% or 80% of all persons sent to Auschwitz as prisoners, the remainder having been selected and used for slave labor in the concentration camp industries. Included among the executed and burnt were approximately 20,000 Russian prisoners of war (previously screened out of Prisoner of War cages by the Gestapo) who were delivered at Auschwitz in Wehrmacht transports operated by regular Wehrmacht officers and men. The remainder of the total number of victims included about 100,000 German Jews, and great numbers of citizens (mostly Jewish) from The Netherlands, France, Belgium, Poland, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, Greece, or other countries. We executed about 400,000 Hungarian Jews alone at Auschwitz in the summer of 1944."-Rudolf Hoss

http://sourcebooks.fordham.edu/halsall/mod/1946Hoess.html

>>139567508
The topic was the holocaust and not ww2.

>>139567792

>trusting nazi propaganda
>trusting shitty neo-nazi youtube conspiracy theory videos.

>>139567230
>https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Gender

thanks, now I have no regret not checking out OP's link and completely ignoring their bullshit

>>139567859
>3 million in a single camp
People ever believed this drivel?

>>139567942
>trusting antiwhite propaganda over prowhite propaganda
That's why you're a cuck

>>139567740

They put a lot of effort into forming the einsatzgrouppen, and building camps and ghettos and creating this whole organized system of dealing with the JQ, all laid out in the Wannsee Conference papers. Its pretty clear that this was a goal of theirs

>>139567942
>not doing math

>>139568050
This. I ain't really a nazi per se but as a white man I know who's gonna have my back when the shit gets real. Protip it's not the leftists or blacks.

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>>139567592
Because a state known for using its counter-spying bureaus mostly as propaganda/brainwashing machines is to be trusted? A state who was also fighting a cultural war against half the world?
>>139567859
>still using Hoss confession when the dude had been beaten for days before going to court
>dude even created a false camp during the same confession

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>>139558917
whether people believe it or not, why does it matter to bring it up today, why do all chinese not compare people to mao, why does no one constantly remind the US of the atom bombing of japan, why is only one war crime ever repeated over and over in modern media.

>>139567740
NO you dumb goy. From day one they wanted to gas all the 6 million jews. Hitler personally administered the gassing of 7 million jews. I know because my grandmother survived seven different concentration camps. How she didn't manage to become one of the 8 million jews killed, i'll never know.

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>>139568050

>antiwhite vs prowhite

what the hell are you even talking about? lol try forming an actual argument

>>139568073
What was the reasoning behind it then?

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>>139558917
>>B-but RationalWiki...
>Everything there is properly sourced.
Just look at those sources lul

>>139568146
>>still using Hoss confession when the dude had been beaten for days before going to court

he wasnt. This is just yet one more lie in the web of made up history that neo-nazis believe in. There is literally NO evidence, what so ever, that he was beaten and tortured to admit that.

>>139558917
Why is Marge fat?

>>139568208

They thought the jews were a subhuman race that were part of a secret world wide jewlluminati conspiracy to take them all down.

>>139558917
but why was the holocaust of 6million jews a meme decades before ww2, before hitler was in any power even?

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>>139568301
>first fucking link in google image
Kill youself shill.
We even have evidences there was systematic beating and torturing of high enough officers to prove shit, fuck out of here.

>>139567592
They were agents of disinformation to propagate their agendas. This is documented throughout the 20th century. I'm not saying it isn't an argument, just that the Soviet Union isn't the most reliable source.

>>139567859
>"Our investigators would put a black hood over the accused’s head and then punch him in the face with brass knuckles, kick him, and beat him with rubber hose. Many of the German defendants had teeth knocked out. Some had their jaws broken. All but two of the Germans, in the 139 cases we investigated, had been kicked in the testicles beyond repair."

>Physical and psychological torture
>reliable

>>139568134

You are babbling about nonsense because you have no actual facts to back up your conspiracy theory. Holocaust deniers operate from a place of pure paranoia, fear, and emotions. Heres a tip, just because you dont like jews doesnt mean the holocaust didnt happen.

>>139567116
Thanks.

>>139560255
>Holodomor

Peasants slowly and steadily digging their own grave by pulling the whiskers of a tiger in a form of state, both imperial and communist.
Russian Empire decided to play soft, results are known - hunger riots in Petersburg, EVERYONE is pissed off, February revolution, October revolution.

But at least kulaks have had their geshefts.

Soviets, while repeating the same mistakes during whole of the NEP up until the 1929, decided "fuck it, we're going hardcore" and sticked to the plan despite everything, resulting in the peasants shooting themselves into foot thinking that commies will nanny them if things get fucked up, as always.

Afterwards, of course, cockholes went with the nice myth about Stalin personally genociding them through artificial hunger, because nobody wants to admit that their own greed was bigger than the self-preservation instinct (it's, by the way, the part of mentality of both Ukrainians and kubanoids - Russians living in the Krasnodar area, that's why Ukraine is such corrupted shitholes that makes geshefts on anything - including selling rockets to Norks and, IIRC, weapons to muslim terrorists.)

>>139568426

notice how you dont post anything? notice how you respond with this childish virtue signaling crap? I GUARANTEE your "evidence" is some trash from the institute for historical research.

>>139568134

>I know who's gonna have my back when the shit gets real

Yeah, they surely will, when they will use you as their cannon fodder.

>>139568073
weird how everyone they invaded was eager to help them do it

>>139568451
>They were agents of disinformation to propagate their agendas.

as were the nazis. Again, you believe in a batshit conspiracy theory based entirely on neo-nazi produced youtube videos, yet you have the balls to claim anyone else is getting unreliable evidence because their sources are biased and have an agenda to push rather than to conduct any objective and actual historical research.

>all that other stuff

again, where is the proof of this? You guys seem to think that if you just write something then it magically makes it true.

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>>139568704

They werent.

>>139567354
>what's wrong with killing subversive parasites who refuse to leave your country?

Nothing, though more discretion would make them less of a martyrs.

The "white mans lies" become truth when it's something you want to believe

>>139568134
>I know who's gonna have my back when the shit gets real.

also, concerning this claim, you should really look into the final days of the war and look at how much Hitler and the nazi high command really had the backs of their people.

At the very least, there are plenty of claims that are made up. Angel at the Fence, human lampshades, everything in >>139567620. There's probably more of them but people don;t want to come out and outright say it.

>>139558917
Isn't rational wiki the same site that called molyneux a Nazi sympathizer

>>139558917
Well they weren't death camps (there was no plan for starvation and typhus driven by the success or curtis lemay) but the jews deserved to be there. I guess the lesson is to not try to enslave and degenerate civilization or you might end up under arrest A little column A a little column B.

>>139558917
That website is known for its shameless progressive/leftist bias that glosses over the death and pain Marxism and feminism has done.

>>139568771
American Atrocities in Germany, By Judge Edward Roden

My 'batshit conspiracy theory' is that I want actual evidence of the holocaust. Just claims, hearsay, unreliable sources, and discrepancies. For the love of god, please, I'm begging you to find just one and provide it. End my nightmare.

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>both sides committed awful atrocities
>only get taught muh six million

I don't deny the holocaust. But I oppose the fucking retards basing their views off of overblown propaganda.

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>>139568301

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2223831/How-Britain-tortured-Nazi-PoWs-The-horrifying-interrogation-methods-belie-proud-boast-fought-clean-war.html
https://www.historiography-project.com/misc/hoess.php

From the memoirs if Rudolf Hoess:
>"I was treated terribly by the [British] Field Security Police. I was dragged to Heide and, of all places, to the same military barracks from which I had been released eight months before by the British. During the first interrogation they beat me to obtain evidence. I do not know what was in the transcript, or what I said, even though I signed it, because they gave me liquor and beat me with a whip. It was too much even for me to bear."
http://mailstar.net/Hoss-Memoirs.html

>How they obtained confessions from German officials:
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v07/v07p389_Faurisson.html

>The Majdanek Gas Chamber Myth:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDsJtB2F9i8

>Auschwitz - Why The Gas Chambers Are A Myth:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE56dcgGVMs

https://pastebin.com/35E6BdQ4

Rudolf Hoess admitted to the existence of concentration camps and "death camps" that were later found to have never existed, and gave a number of victims that was later revised and reduced after "investigation". Of course it was bullshit.

>>139568995
>There's probably more of them but people don;t want to come out and outright say it.

because they are irrelevant to the actual historical understanding of the holocaust. Who gives a shit, in the grand scheme of things, if someone lies about being part of an event? how does that affect our understanding of that event, unless of course our understanding is based on those claims.

I always see you guys bring up some irrelevant old jew lying about being at Auschwitz and use this as proof that hitler dindu nuffin. Its retarded logic and makes no sense. Do people lying about being veterans of Vietnam mean the Vietnam war never happened as well?

>>139567172
Fuck off shill.

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>>139568157
anyone? right - because its not proper to dwell on the past, so no one can argue this. Anyone with morals would have to admit the abuse of holocaust imagery is a manipulation tactic and shouldnt be used a way to demonize someone for not giving special treatment based on the past.

Otherwise, why care about the holocaust when we still owe the native indians so much, why doesnt anyone give a shit about the fact that we poisoned the natives so we could escape from Britain.

We left a country we could have easily fixed, drove out the natives of this land, and then ruined it when they were taking care of it.

The very same shit you retards hate immigrants for

but nah, the holocaust, give all our money to israel, keep spending 500 bil on military to fight their wars and lets blame poor people for the reason we dont have money for domestic issues - fuck both the right and the left .

>>139569028
there was a conservativepedia made, then rational wiki was made as a sort of parody of that, but with a liberal bias. then they just went full retard and stopped realizing it was meant to be a parody and are now an even bigger meme than conservapedia ever was. There is an important lesson in this

>>139566368
Formerly Chuck's

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>>139569172
Yeah, Dresden bombing was such an awful thing to do against poor krauts that never did something like tha... oh wait.

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if you read <<<rationalwiki>>> you deserve to be wrong

those two wikis are mindrape clusterfucks

>>139569277
Don't be silly. I'm just curious what's embellished or not.

>>139558917
Again, but only one final time.

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>>139569172
>I don't deny the holocaust.

The word "Holocaust" was used dozens of times in publications before the actual claimed "event". It's part of a Jewish prophecy where 6 million Jews have to vanish in a "Holocaust" before going back to Israel, which is why Israel became independent in 1948 after the war. They needed the "Holocaust" to create Israel.

Some Jews died of various causes like typhus, starvation, or in some cases execution because of the circumstances around communism (the USSR leadership being a prime example), then they were like "that's it, that's the "Holocaust", but it wasn't close to 6 million, and there were no gas chambers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_Declaration_of_Independence
>The Israeli Declaration of Independence (Hebrew: הכרזת העצמאות, Hakhrazat HaAtzma'ut or Hebrew: מגילת העצמאות Megilat HaAtzma'ut), formally the Declaration of the Establishment of the State of Israel, was proclaimed on 14 May 1948 (5 Iyar 5708) by David Ben-Gurion, the Executive Head of the World Zionist Organization[2][3] and the chairman of the Jewish Agency for Palestine.[4]

The word "Holocaust" is very important to Jews because of the religious prophecy being fulfilled, but it didn't actually happen

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=24369

http://www.renegadetribune.com/the-six-million-myth/
>The Six Million Myth

>Two Hundred "Six Million Jews" Allegations From 1900-1945"
https://archive.org/stream/TwoHundredSixMillionJewsAllegationsFrom19001945/TwoHundredSixMillionJewsAllegationsFrom1900-1945_djvu.txt

The Jews managed to convince the world through propaganda and movies for decades that the "Holocaust" was the most outrageous event to ever take place in history, ignoring the 60,000,000 men that gave their lives for a lie and propaganda pushed by Jewish interests, and the tens of millions who were killed by mostly Jewish Bolsheviks in the USSR.

>>139566368
it's mathematically impossible to burn 6 million jews over 4 years in ovens, even if you do it year round all day long.

this is the hard fact that jews even know it's bullshit, also, occams razor. If you wanted to mass kill people why wouldn't you bury them alive or shoot them? there are no mass graves.

>>139569163
>American Atrocities in Germany, By Judge Edward Roden

This doesnt even mention Rudolf Hoss at all, or claim that he was tortured to say what he said. In fact, that article is all about the Malmedy Massacre entirely, not even about the holocaust.

ONCE AGAIN, please provide me with evidence that RUDOLF HOSS was tortured for his confession.

>>139569420
if you go there you can find they are still mad about that but more importantly, they rebuilt the frauenkiche brick by brick replacing only materials the survivors couldn't find. Kind of creepy really except that in parallel the are begging immigrants to fuck their wives and kill them in the streets. An interesting social dichotomy or just social insanity at a national level?

>>139569380
IIRC, editors there are usually wikipedia rejects.

Then there's SJWiki which is filled with rationalwiki rejects.

>>139569172
The schools hide the holocaust and only preach about the horrors of communism

>>139569740
>it's mathematically impossible to burn 6 million jews over 4 years in ovens


You are so clueless that you think the official narrative is that every single victim, all 6 million, were cremated at camps. This is really telling that holocaust deniers dont even know what they are denying

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>>139569725

Oh I completely agree. The Soviet atrocities were much larger in scale and much more cruel. But they get zero mention in the media...which is owned by guess who?

Taking an interest in history caused me to completely ignore mass media. Seeing what the Jews have done and what they continue to do is sickening.

>>139569420

Don't forget the Tokyo firebombing. But you're missing the point. They're not constantly indoctrinating people about the allied bombing for political gain and social meddling.

>>139568841
"no"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Browning#Ordinary_Men

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>>139569901

What fucking schools are you talking about?

>>139558917
>rational wiki

>>139569916
so how many were "cremated?" then? cause you don't even know what you are claiming then, the holocaust isn't the rando jew that died, it's about concentration camps and mass extermination, which didn't happen

you don't even know what the fuck you're talking about, it didn't happen, they were work camps to send them out of europe, and jews, being the eternal fucking whiners they are got butthurt so bad they made up lies about it

>>139558917
What about living "holocaust" survivors that speak contrary to these links and say they enjoyed the time they spent in the camps?

>>139569916
Kike falls down stairs and dies. HOLOCAUST VICTIM! WHITES ARE EVIL!

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>>139570020
>They're not constantly indoctrinating people about the allied bombing for political gain and social meddling.

What are you talking about? Everyone discusses the bombing of hiroshima and nagasaki AND Dresden. Unlike neo-nazis, who outright deny all the atrocities committed by the nazis, real people actually question some of the actions taken by the allies. Its also hypocritical of you to cry your crocodile tears considering the war started on sept. 1, 1939, with Germany bombing the ever loving SHIT out of Wielun

>>139570085
My teacher spent the entire holocaust week comparing the holocaust to the USSR famines. And he kept going "see stalin is worse than hitler hurr Mao is worse than hitler this person is worse than hitler communists are worse than nazis"

>>139567175
What about people who believe the holocaust happened, but think that the 6,000,000 number is likely inflated?

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>>139567172
Aaron, stop.

>>139570393
>Wielun
Thing is, we admit the Nazis were scum. Will you admit the same. You're childish like that guy.

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>>139567172
That doesn't prove anything.

>>139569789
see
>>139569214

>>139558917
>hoax
no, more like blown way out of proportion and embellished as fuck.

the other side of this dark portion of history that NOBODY taks about or has an answer for is...

>what did the jews do to evoke a genocidal wrath and total global war.

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>>139570404

>so one class

>>139570197
>it's about concentration camps and mass extermination, which didn't happen

before the camps were even implemented, 1 million were killed by the einsatzgrouppen death squads. NONE of these people were cremated. Even within the camps, not all were cremated. At the camps used in operation Reinhardt, the most brutal period of the holocaust, the bodies were just thrown in a giant pit that was set on fire, rather than any proper cremation process. No one, has EVER claimed that every single body was cremated.

>>139558917
>Implying /pol/tards care about anything properly sourced.
Unless it results in Trump fucking their virgin assholes I don't think they'd be interested.

>>139567859
His estimates were way the fuck off apparently. Aushwitz death toll just keeps getting lower. Nice try schlomo

>jidf using rationalwiki

not even trying anymore

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>>139569277
>I always see you guys bring up some irrelevant old jew lying about being at Auschwitz and use this as proof that hitler dindu nuffin

Because Jews always lie. Read the Talmud, it's all about how they can trick, manipulate and lie to goyim. Lying is a second nature to them; Martin Luther even wrote a book about it called "On the Jews and their Lies".

Hitler talk about this exact tactic from the Jews with the concept of the "Big Lie".

https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/a/adolfhitle385640.html
>Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it.

And that's what the Holocaust is. A big lie: "6 million Jews killed in gas chambers" repeated enough times, and hammered into our heads because of massive Jewish control of our media and nstituions that people started to believe it because it was repeated enough, despite all evidence against it, despite all the proven lies by so-called "survivors" that puts into question everything, and despite the fact that Jews themselves killed millions of people in the Soviet Union, which is almost never addresses. And we're supposed to see Jews as poor innocent victims, and hate ourselves and nationalism because of this lie.

http://www.rense.com/general53/aauz.htm
>In a dramatic and unprecedented videotaped interview, Dr. Franciszek Piper, senior curator and director of archives of the Auschwitz State Museum admitted on camera that 'Krema 1,' the alleged 'homicidal gas chamber' shown off to hundreds of thousands of tourists every year at the Auschwitz main camp, was, in fact, fabricated after the war by the Soviet Union -apparently on the direct orders of Josef Stalin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LO_xSQOCzw

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"800 to 900 yards from the place where the ovens were, the prisoners were squeezed into little cars that ran on rails. In Auschwitz these cars had various dimensions and could hold up to 15 people. As soon as a car was loaded, it would be set in motion on an inclined plane that traveled at full speed down a corridor. At the end of the corridor there was a wall, and in the wall was the door to the oven. As soon as the car hit the wall, the door opened automatically, and the car would dip forward and pitch its cargo of living people into the oven. Right behind it came another car, and so on."

Inside the Concentration Camps: Eyewitness Accounts of Life in Hitler's Death Camps Paperback – 24 Sep 1996 (Page 32)

>>139570477

this literally proves the image anon. Try actually reading whats in there instead of just whats underlined for you.

>this article once mentioned 6 million jews that lived in eastern europe! this means the holocaust never happened!

pure paranoia and irrational appeals to fear

>>139569789
How the British Obtained the Confessions of Rudolf Höss
by Robert Faurisson

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>>139570393

But I just said I didn't deny the atrocities. And the propaganda fuels a Jewish ethnostate in the middle east that eats billions of my tax dollars. And the same propagandists accuse me of being Hitler if I want my own white neighborhood.

Do you see the hypocrisy? Or are you still asleep?

>>139558917
>>139560325
>>139560761
>>139566368
Fuck off jew.

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>>139570393
>real people actually question some of the actions taken by the allies
>posts a claim about Germans bombing civilians in Weilun
>Polish notoriously bunkered their troops in civilian centers waiting for the British "blank check of indefinite support" that never arrived
Allies are the worst war criminals in human history, but somehow, their victims became the "demons lurking in the souls of every white person". The speck of dust in my eye, the giant tree branch in yours -- its the same every time:

https://youtu.be/qkQ6J5F01Do

>>139570782
Shoosh Aaron. Go apply for jobs tomorrow. Stop living with your mom, you're over 30 now.

>>139570587
>http://mailstar.net/Hoss-Memoirs.html

>look up their source
>literally get a 404

again, where is the proof he was tortured into confessing this? I find it funny how skeptical you guys are when it comes to the holocaust, yet are willing to believe any internet rumor that favors your conspiracy theory at the drop of a hat.

>>139571044
this is a funny read.

Must be true though, a jew wrote it in a "factual" book

800 to 900 yards from the place where the ovens were, the prisoners were squeezed into little cars that ran on rails. In Auschwitz these cars had various dimensions and could hold up to 15 people. As soon as a car was loaded, it would be set in motion on an inclined plane that traveled at full speed down a corridor. At the end of the corridor there was a wall, and in the wall was the door to the oven. As soon as the car hit the wall, the door opened automatically, and the car would dip forward and pitch its cargo of living people into the oven. Right behind it came another car, and so on."

Inside the Concentration Camps: Eyewitness Accounts of Life in Hitler's Death Camps Paperback – 24 Sep 1996 (Page 32)

>>139567172
>only 8 left after you moved the goalpost
Gee, that's it? Annuda shoah!

Yeah, the Holocaust did happen. Millions died.
How do we know? Because we know. It's documented. Photos n' shit.

Look Nazis weren't stupid, they were a well oiled machine. The problem was fanatics. All the SS guys doing their job so well, they got sloppy. Started tossing people out of windows for fun, sick bastards.
Anyway, if they would have taken a more clandestine approach to that WHOLE operation, nobody would have ever known.

>>139568189
May be you grandmother was lied to you.

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>>139570989
>Allies are the worst war criminals in human history

says the guy who actually has to sit here and pretend the holocaust never happened, while at the same time virtue signaling to your other troll buddies how awesome it is when you think no one is looking? lol

also, more paranoia about Aaron. Notice how you intentionally drift the conversation away from actual discussion about the holocaust, since you know you have no argument?

>>139571328
> How do we know? Because we know.

shekel for a good goy

>>139571402
these are soviets

>>139571279
https://rudolfhoess.wordpress.com/
seemed well sourced. What's your take. My mind is open friendo

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>>139571402
Dont take my word for anything

here let a jew show you!

>>139558917
>If after reading all that evidence you still believe the Holdomor is a hoax, you're a confirmed retard. Sorry.

Checkmate commit

>>139570795

>some old neo-nazi who has been caught lying before said so, so it must be true

interesting.

>>139571279
wrong guy, meant for
>>139571044

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>>139571493
the source

I think the fact that Europeans have to legally believe this crap, or spend years in a prison cell, suggests that it is mostly pure BS

>>139571477

No they arent. Once again, you are just parroting shit you know nothing about. Heres a trick, I want you to tell me what this photo is called, why it is called that, and where it comes from.

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>>139571044
>again, where is the proof he was tortured into confessing this?
Its holohoax studies 101, how could you not have heard of this?
>get a 404
I didn't, maybe its the VPN you're using, here's the archive so you can't claim you didn't see it:
https://archive.is/O88Fp

>Rudolf Hoss stated at the Numerburg trials how he made it possible for the gas chambers to exterminate ten times as many people as the ones at Treblinka. His detailed accounts of the holocaust is confirmed by documents and other eyewitnesses as well.
But unfortunately contradicted by Auschwitz museum itself.

Also, how does

X + 2m;

X + 4m;

and X + 1.5m

all equal 6m at the same time?

Rudolf Hoess: Commandant of Auschwitz:
>"I was treated terribly by the [British] Field Security Police. I was dragged to Heide and, of all places, to the same military barracks from which I had been released eight months before by the British. During the first interrogation they beat me to obtain evidence. I do not know what was in the transcript, or what I said, even though I signed it, because they gave me liquor and beat me with a whip. It was too much even for me to bear."
http://mailstar.net/Hoss-Memoirs.html

Captain Bernard Clarke (interviewed by Rupert Butler):
>"The prisoner was torn from the top bunk, the pyjamas ripped from his body. He was then dragged naked to one of the slaughter tables, where it seemed to Clarke the blows and screams were endless. Eventually, the Medical Officer urged the Captain: 'Call them off, unless you want to take back a corpse.'"
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Legions-Death-Enslavement-Military-Classics/dp/1844150429

>Hellstorm (1:09:02)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUt-yxJODxI

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Good work everyone, we will soon destroy the Holofaust meme.

The Tribunal shall not be bound by technical rules of evidence. It shall adopt and apply to the greatest possible extent expeditious and nontechnical procedure, and shall admit any evidence which it deems to be of probative value.
>http://avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/imtconst.asp#art19

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>>139558917
Congrats, this is the most Jewish post I've seen in quite some time.

>>139558917
https://youtu.be/4WKrJsdN2uk

It never happened. Hitler decided to be multicultural you are just a bigot.

>>139571496
>>139571662

oh yes, the tried and true go to of bringing up irrelevant people who lied about being present during the holocaust.

see

>>139569277

>>139570610
show me the exhumed bones, or this is just stories.

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>>139571665
took me a minute to get this directly to your attn. my apologies. give it a shot, interested in a rebuke.

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>>139571402
>says the guy who actually has to sit here and pretend the holocaust never happened
There were no plans to exterminate the jews, sorry. You can't produce a single piece of evidence that isn't hearsay to the effect that plans existed to exterminate the jews. You will try to produce mountains of circumstantial evidence, slander, or innuendo -- but never proof, not after 70 years. It's a black propaganda myth perpetuated by a kind of cult movement.

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>>139571328
>Photos n' shit

Soviets already had the means to edit any and all photos.

It's no coincidence that almost every single camp that turned out to be a "death camp" rather than a labor camp, concentration, prison camp or anything else was inspected by the Soviets instead of Western troops.

And it's no coincidence that a lot of retouching of ""Nazi" crimes are similar to what you find in pictures that were edited or censored by the USSR.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_images_in_the_Soviet_Union

>>139571797
if these things were irrelevant, then why are we still compelled, through legal threats to believe it all in Europe?

Why not, some dudes lied, we published it, sorry....

Yet we get "refusal to believe = prison"

WTF are they hiding?

>>139571701
>I didn't, maybe its the VPN you're using, here's the archive so you can't claim you didn't see it:
>https://archive.is/O88Fp

go to the bottom of the article where they actually cite their source for all that shit. It 404s. Also, as the other neo-nazi said, his source for this claim comes from Robert Faurrison. Dont you find it odd that all your "evidence" comes from a few crack pots that get caught lying all the time? Why is it that NO actual historian agrees with this view anon?

>>139571797
>https://rudolfhoess.wordpress.com/

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>>139572005

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>>139571761
>i m p l y i n g
>n a z i
>m u l t i c u l t u r a l

DON'T MAKE ME LAFF ANON

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>>139572072

>>139569277 people who refuse to believe the lying vietnam "veteran" do not go to prison.

Yet they do over the lies of jews in regards to the holocaust.

Why is this?

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>>139571845
mass grave at Busk uncovered in 2006

Is this the part where you autistically demand that I show you the remains of every single victim since all your other arguments got BTFO?

>>139558917
Is homer fat or just T H I C C

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>>139572264
May he Rest in Peace

>>139572024
>then why are we still compelled,

they arent.

>>139572264
>people who refuse to believe the lying vietnam "veteran" do not go to prison.

thats not what I said anon. So you agree that just because some one lies about being a vietnam veteran, that doesnt mean the vietnam war never happened? You know, since thats fucking retarded logic, right?

>>139572314
looks like 6 million to me

>kek

>>139572314
So that's about 20-40 bodies?

Where's the other 5.99 million?

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Everyone should look up the Ernst Zundel trials in Canada that happened during the 80s & 90s. He got the Red Cross to release their records from the German camps despite strong Israeli/Jewish objections. Their records suggested that there were no gas chambers and a total of 271,301 died during WW2 in these camps, mostly from typhus and starvation b/c of Allied bombing. It's probably not an exact figure, but it's a lot more accurate than the "6 million" or that they were all "gassed".

Ernst finally died a few weeks ago, so it's a perfect opportunity for anyone to check out his work. The guy had a hard life and dedicated most of it to it.

Ernst Zundel - Holocaust Debunked
https://youtube.com/watch?v=bp85rXHDJCo

Zundel vs. Zionist - Truth vs. Lies
https://youtube.com/watch?v=j5Myxi92m4U

Off Your Knees, Germany! Ernst Zundel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wuZQeYBJoI

Ernst Zundel - Interviewed by an Israeli journalist (1996)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5sbegfCz7o


A Jew defends Hitler - Ernst Zundel interviews Prof. Roger Dommergue in France:
http://vimeo.com/50900068

They took some 20 years of his life because he debunked the Holohoax. He dedicated his life just to get the truth out there, but now anyone can appreciate what he did with the internet.

>>139572465
speak for yourself, in the US.

In Europe, we MUST believe in every single aspect of the "holocaust" or we can go to prison for hate crime.

Debunk the bear and eagle cages= hate, hate = crime, crime = prison.

But we can safely debunk the lying vietnam vet, we legally cannot do the same to the lying jew in regards to the holocaust.
Mark my words, refusal to believe in the holocaust will one day be punishable by prison in the US.

>>139572517
>>139572516

lol yep, I knew it.

you guys get utterly BTFO, so you demand evidence of a mass grave existing, then when I post that, you then say "w-well thats not 6 million!"

Are you so stupid that you think all 6 million people were buried in some mega grave?

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>>139572039
>lacks basic internet research skills
>cant check an archive
Now that we're banning all "problematic" websites from the internet we'll be hearing this excuse from shills more often:
>I can't read your sources its 404'd, it must not ever have existed

https://archive.is/ORLLu
https://archive.is/ORLLu
https://archive.is/ORLLu

>>139572039
>Why is it that NO actual historian agrees with this view anon?
Many do, but you deny that they're historians once they doL It's circular logic when you only consider historians who support your views to be "actual historians", especially while denying the context that heterodox views on the Lolohoax are actually criminalized in most of the developed Western world. Historians who disagree with you go to jail, do you think it matters anymore what "historians endorsed by the establishment" think after that happens?

>>139572835
you posted ONE picture, so yes I demand more evidence, you didn't even cite that picture

>>139572835
No really, where are the 5.99 million other corpses?

You can't just gloss over the numbers like that.

I'll wait for you to create a collage of all the burial sites located so far. including number of corpses etc.

>>139572769

>spend all day every day denying the holocaust

>bitch about how you cant deny the holocaust, and this is proof that the holocaust never happened.

You guys operate from PURE illogical feelings of paranoia anon. How does this make any logical sense at all?

>>139558917

The Haavara Transfer Agreement BLOWS UP the whole holocaust narrative. It was a deal between the Nazis and the Zionists to help emigrate german jews to Palestine/Israel.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement

THE HOLOCAUST NEVER HAPPENED!

Want another piece of evidence??

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georg_Konrad_Morgen

This is a Waffen SS judge. He executed a camp commandant for killing two jewish prisoners……….

Let me repeat that; A NAZI SS JUDGE EXECUTED A CAMP COMMANDANT FOR KILLING TWO JEWISH PRISONERS!

He was so fucking thorough that he interviewed other prisoners, PERSONALLY!

Why would an SS judge be executing commandants, when they are supposedly gassing / rolling / electrifying 666 million of them!?!?

On these two points alone the narrative crumbles. And we haven't even gotten to the number problem of killing 3287 people a day in gas chambers, let alone the fuel needed to cremate them all.

They couldn't even produce 1 body for the Nuremberg Trials!

These are lies, the Holocaust is a lie.

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>>139572835
8 million actually, no no 7

Fuck it maths is anti semitic ban maths, gas the maths, numbers war now!

>>139572922
>>139572939

>ask for a picture
>get it
>move the goalpost and autistically ask for every single body of every single victim

lol you lost and you know it anon. You have NOTHING.

>>139558917
>wiki
>evidence
pick one

>>139573025

So the vietnam war never happened to, right?

fuck, people lie about being there during 9/11, this means the attacks on 9/11 never happened either, right anon?

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>>139573104
https://rudolfhoess.wordpress.com/
In this post, I'm only directly addressing your claim that Hoess was not tortured.

Rupert Butler - Legions of Death. It's an anti-nazi book.

>>139572835
I'm not here to say what did or didn't happen based on conjecture, I've seen hardly any evidence of a mass orchestration to kill mass amounts of jews, the facts don't add up

what I see is a rounding up of jews, to export and there was disease, dissenters, etc. some died, but it doesn't look like a mass extermination

You are telling me that a people that made the V2 rocket, the super tank on rails..........couldn't have killed all the jews if they wanted to if that was their aim?

I use logic to solve questions, not hocus pocus.

>>139573104
So these were the only ones not cremated then, huh?

>>139573104
Hold onto your theories and your exaggerations all you like.

I'm still waiting for actual evidence.

You know, I mean I was forced to watch Schindler's list in history class... we read some books with "testimonies" and all that, but there wasn't any "proof" mostly just hearsay and speculative nonsense combined with live action recreations to impress on the young mind what the system wants you to believe.

Sure you found a picture of 1 grave sight. That doesn't exactly prove a holocaust.(Burnt Offering from the original Greek)

Like, I get it. You want the holocaust to be real.

So do I. If all those jews died, I'd jump for joy.

I'm just not seeing it here.

>>139570393
Do it again, bomber Harris!

>>139573235

youre here to shill a conspiracy theory on an event you clearly know nothing about. You asked for evidence of a mass grave, I gave you it, so then you moved the goal post to another fucking stadium and then demanded I post photos of every single victim. You have no argument and you know it.

>I use logic to solve questions,

using your paranoia and hatred and fear to fuel your irrational conspiracy theory beliefs you got from neo-nazi youtube videos isnt logical at all anon.

>>139573487
>paranoia is asking for evidence

the truth fears no investigation nigger

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>>139572971
>spend all day every day promoting the 6 Gorillion
I think you're projecting now, Aaron.

>>139573217
His confessions, like Eichmann's, seem almost deliberately fabricated to be as inane as possible. Like he was sabotaging his own confession by including absurd figures or provably false details. Either that, or he was so ignorant of what to say that he desperately said anything he could think of.
>tfw diesel engines aren't deadly sources of gas
https://youtu.be/0juKwJs_zko

>>139573217

I asked for evidence that he was tortured for his confession at Nuremburg, everyone knows he got beaten to actually admit he was Hoess a year after he went into hiding and was arrested.

First I get an article about the fucking malmedy massacre trial, that isnt even about Hoss, then some irrelevant 404ed neo-nazi article, and now a book that only talks about how he was beaten to admit he was actually hoess.

WHERE IS THE PROOF THAT HE WAS TORTURED FOR HIS CONFESSION? If this is so self evident as you guys claim, then how come you have been doing this shucking and jiving bullshit the whole thread?

>>139569340
Nice pic m8

>>139573487
I see you just came here to argue.

Considering the amount of false witnesses and fake survivors, I'd say by now the notion of a Holocaust(Burnt Offering) is also a "Conspiracy".

Con, persuade (someone) to do or believe something, typically by use of a deception.

piracy, the unauthorized use or reproduction of another's work.


So there you go, Jews are conspiring to commit to history the notion of Burnt Offerings under the auspice of Jewish Persecution.

>>139573198
Gee i forget that most Americans at least seem to forget that there is actually a "rest of the world" outside of America's borders. and in much of the rest of the world, debunking the holocaust, in public especially, is a crime, and the punishment is 5-10 years in prison.

Yet it must be not true, because you have the constitution! right?

>>139558917
Okay assuming that Hitler started gassing Jews since day numero uno, sep 1 1939 throughout and until, sep 2 1945, that makes for 3,153,600 minutes, i.e. 2190 days or a total of 6 years.

A total estimate of 6,000,000 Jews were killed during those 3,153,600 minutes which comes out to 1.9 Jews per minute. That means Hitler killed 1 Jew every 30 seconds. (roughly)

In Auschwitz, the most famous and biggest concentration camp, there are 15 crematoriums. According to Auschwitz survivors, Jews would go into the chamber, gassed for 15-20 minutes, then put into the oven.

It takes 1 hour to cremate a body using modern furnaces..., which operate at higher temperatures than the traditional hundred year old ovens at the camp. However, lets say that the ovens were operating at a level that we see today, that means it would take 1 hour, 20 minutes to gas and burn 15 Jews assuming they were all burned simultaneously. (Disregarding the time it would take for the gas to empty the chamber for the bodies to be transported from the chamber to the oven.) The elevators used to transport bodies were very slow and could only take up 7 bodies at a time with their weight capacity. However, for the sake of the point, we're going to assume that bodies were teleported instantly from chamber to oven.

That means 15 Jews were gassed and burned every 1.2 hours. That comes out to exactly 300 Jews every 24 hours (Assuming the gassing and burning of Jews was happening every hour straight for 6 years on an uninterrupted basis) the total number of jews killed would be 657,000 for those 6 years. The official Jewish story is that 4,000,000 Jews were killed at Auschwitz alone. You're about 3.4million short there goy...

How can any Jew, Israeli, or Shill ever even argue this story when just simple math is enough to destroy the whole theoretical rational? They don't have an argument, they have a paper narrative. Can any Jews respond to this and also remember that they responded afterward? lol

>>139573620

you asked for evidence, I gave it to you. Then, since it proves you wrong, you decided to move the goal post to a retarded level. This is paranoia. Youre operating from a level of emotion because you want to believe in this conspiracy theory. You have no interest at all in objective historical truth. You know this yourself

>>139573839
>psst moshe, they're questioning shit, we better make it a crime to talk about then

>>139573839

you are currently denying the holocaust, and as evidence of your claim, you are saying you cant deny it. You are a loon operating from paranoia and emotion.

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>>139573800
>WHERE IS THE PROOF THAT HE WAS TORTURED FOR HIS CONFESSION?
Allied governments have long since admitted it, just as many so-called "Nazi massacres" like Katyn were admitted to be the work of the NKVD.

>>139573923

no one has EVER claimed all 6 million victims were gassed. Once again, you deniers have no idea what you are denying

The alt right is the biggest "we didnt du nuffin" group of savages.

>>139573923
this :D

>>139573923
A "friend" of mine says that there were "mass graves" with jews and they just threw a little petrol and burnt the rest because "body fat" burns easily and it doesn't take much to burn a human body, just takes a while.

>>139573935
not really I actually wish it was true, then the world was saved from more jews

but it's not true, we'll get'em next time

>>139574113

>this guy was tortured once, which means he was tortured!

WHERE

IS

THE

EVIDENCE

THAT

RUDOLF HOSS

WAS

TORTURED

FOR

HIS

CONFESSION

AT

NUREMBURG

No more shucking and jiving, no more doding the question, no more moving the goalpost, just post evidence for this claim or admit youre a paranoid conspiracy theories who is just denying reality when it proves your conspiracy theory wrong.

>>139558917
Look at the "Physical evidence" section. It is tiny and unsourced, simply stating that various types of remains were found at the camps. Then it presents the Red Army finding 300k pairs of shoes as evidence of the genocide of 6 million (formerly 11 million, thanks Jewish Telegraphic Agency).

>>139566368
gaschamber genocide is a meme just like lampshades and soap.

>>139572314
That's a handful of bodies, and they could have easily died of typhus or starvation.
They don't appear to have been cremated either.

>>139574081
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_against_Holocaust_denial

Here have a look. i don't care if you don't believe me that the rest of the world does not follow America's constitution. You can check for yourself.

>>139569740
I'd just deprive them of water

>>139574283
Where is the evidence that Jews who murdered children and ritualistically drained their blood then confessed to it during the Middle Ages were tortured?

>>139558917
>properly sourced
Eyewithness accounts of "survivors"
Sounds legil

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>>139573487
>youre here to shill a conspiracy theory

The "Holocaust" is closer to a conspiracy theory. The idea that was a massive conspiracy by the German Government and Hitler to exterminate all the Jews in gas chambers, despite the Haavara Agreement, despite the Madagascar Plan, and despite all the evidence against it, so much so that we have to enact laws against anyone questioning that narrative.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madagascar_Plan

Why would Hitler, in war time, waste money and funds on having shoes made for prisoners he was going to kill? Why would he waste money on dentists, clothings, and everything if he just wanted to kill them? Why would he use "gas chambers" instead of just putting a bullet in the back of their heads?

The entire narrative falls apart if you just think about it for a couple minutes.

"Hitler didn't want to exterminate the Jews" >Benjamin Netanyahu, World Zionist Congress Speech, October 20, 2015
http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.681525

>>139574219
Also when questioned about the "body fat" excuse with the bodies being starved he then enforced that starved bodies get turned to ash in under 10 minutes.

>>139570404
Well communists ARE worse than nazis so yea

>>139574584
Even the bones?

>>139574590
"Anti Communism is Anti Semitism" - The Jewish Voice 1941

>>139573839
This is the real crime

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>>139558917
The Jews were clever here. Sacrifice a % of your population (generally the lowest tier) to ensure:
1. Creation of Zion
2. An event that solidifies racial solidarity
3. Protection on the world stage

They really are smarter than us goys. Who wants to holocaust 6 million of the lowest tier whites?

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>>139574816
here you go

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>>139574163

Jews are the biggest "we didnt du nuffin" group to ever live, which is why to this day 99% of them will still deny involvement in the Soviet Union's mass killings, in the attempted communist revolution in Germany, or any wrongdoings that would've caused anyone, including the Germans not to like them.

>Putin: Soviet Government Was Mostly Jewish 80-85%
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIeYoF1VhHc

>Winston Churchill exposes Jewish forces behind Communism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNcERXGcpEY

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>>139574131
Then you don't even know what claim "the Holocaust" represents. To your lying mouth it represents anything and nothing at all. Sounds like you're practicing "Pilpul".

>>139574283
>show me more proof Hoess was tortured
We've shown you:
>admissions from his torturers that they tortured him
>admissions of torture to get confessions from the governments who captured him
>proof of widespread patterns of such tortures
>pictures of Hoess' broken nose and face
>accounts of army doctors who had to fix his broken teech and jaw
>the inaccuracies of his forced confessions
If you're still pretending you haven't been show proof, you're schizophrenic.

>>139574502

WHERE

IS

THE

EVIDENCE

THAT

RUDOLF HOSS

WAS

TORTURED

FOR

HIS

CONFESSION

AT

NUREMBURG

why are you still shucking and jiving?

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>>139575036
>show me more proof Hoess was tortured
We've shown you:
>admissions from his torturers that they tortured him
>admissions of torture to get confessions from the governments who captured him
>proof of widespread patterns of such tortures
>pictures of Hoess' broken nose and face
>accounts of army doctors who had to fix his broken teeth and jaw
>the inaccuracies of his forced confessions
If you're still pretending you haven't been show proof, you're schizophrenic.

>>139575022
>>admissions of torture to get confessions from the governments who captured him

no you havent. You have no evidence that he was tortured, which is why you are shucking and jiving. You guys are something else.


>Then you don't even know what claim "the Holocaust" represents.

meaingless drivel from a paranoid conspiracy theorist who does nothing but sits around in your echo chamber to circle jerk like the intellectual coward and midget you are.

>>139558917

>spamming /pol/ with retarded /leftyfaggotry/ has never been tried before
sage

As I already said, FMuCG4xc is just here to argue.

>>139558917
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Alleged_statements_by_Hitler_on_the_Holocaust

gr8b8m8 sage

>>139566368
Pretend you want to kill millions of people without wasting resources
Do you:
>come up with some Mouse Trap-esque murder system
Or
>lock them up and leave them to starve

>>139575433

>waaa, stop challenging my conspiracy theory with actual logic!

anyone who sits in echo chambers is a coward

>>139559377
This reminds me of the joke of the woman who didn't believe in the holocaust, and then was convinced it happened, and from then on she couldn't believe it had happened only once.

>>139575829
You have your own echo-chamber to deal with, it's called Holocaust Confirmation Bias.

I'll agree we both have our own echo chambers, will you?

>>139575517
Detaining people is expensive and bullets are cheap. Just shoot them and be done with it. It's not like this is some elaborate Bond Villain scheme designed to elicit emotional response from some outside observer.

>>139575937

>literally in a thread of holocaust deniers

>YOURE IN AN ECHO CHAMBER TO!

lol youre a special kind of stupid anon.

only edgy bluepilled virgins deny the holocaust

>>139575285
>show me more proof Hoess was tortured
We've shown you:
>admissions from his torturers that they tortured him
>admissions of torture to get confessions from the governments who captured him
>proof of widespread patterns of such tortures
>pictures of Hoess' broken nose and face
>accounts of army doctors who had to fix his broken teeth and jaw
>the inaccuracies of his forced confessions
If you're still pretending you haven't been show proof, you're schizophrenic.

>>139576119
See? Can't even agree to disagree.

And you call me stupid?

Oh well. Enjoy your Holocaust meme.

>>139559568
What about the documented medical experiments on inmates?
Like dropping chemicals into eyes.

>>139576119
Oh, there's two O's in "too".

Just thought you might like to know.

>>139560325
Anyone who reads those soviet accounts of what they found should be horrified.

But I'll be damned if I believe that insane figure considering the demographic statistics relating to Jews.

I'm more pissed that they got an entire day to mark "their" pain, but no other greater genocides are remembered in such the same manner.

Gotta love the robot response that's been programmed into the shills since Grade School.

Everybody, sing it with me!

LA ILLAHA ILALLAH! MOHAMMADOO RASOOL ALLAH!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqmom61ysTk

>>139568451
What would it take for you to agree that genocide to whichever number had occurred?

>>139576750
Hi buddy!

>>139573487
That grave is evidence of something

To determine its relation, if any, to the claimed Holocaust it is necessary to determine who many people were buried in that mass grave

Their apparent genders/ages

And of-course the manner of their death

>>139569557
So your saying that the only threat to the jewish bankers after Nazi Germany was a Jewish soviet communist society systematically against corporate global finance?

I think you've crossed a few wires. Just as Christians and Muslims have incredibly different factions, to say all jews think and are the same is just retardation worth of mental illness.

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>>139559568

>>139577004
Can't have consolidation of State authority without a Central Bank to distribute the funds of said State.

Wires are not crossed.

Unless you're saying the Breadlines of the communist era worked on some sort of logging system in which names or I.D. were/was taken down in lieu of paper currency?

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>>139576857
Yes you absolute Saudi cock-monger. Enjoying the Assad rapes?

Or are you a BASED one. The everyday struggle to be a decent human is the biggest Jihad of all.

Stop making it harder for me to go travelling.

>>139576188

Hoess was beaten on the day of his capture, nobody is denying that. You have to present evidence that Hoess was tortured to sign a pre-written statement which you havent been able to do so. Hoess' memoirs in fact speak of the good treatment he got, even though they also speak of his initial rough treatment. Nothing to hide here. Oh and the man changed his version of how many Jews died in Auschwitz at least 3 times. How does that make you feel, as a person who believes a single version of a hoax story was forced onto Hoess? Didnt work too well, did it?

>>139577360
I enjoy the fact that you can't travel.

It means you get to stay home and be /comfy/.

Surely you must see the positive in this?

>>139577298
I don't think you've read Marx lad?
The establishment of a communist state directly challenges the fundamental role of Capitalist banking practices built on usury and money lending and money making.

I don't agree with communism, but again, this idea that there is no big difference between a zionist jew and a communist atheist led jew is absolutely nonsensical unless you can show me otherwise.

>In B4 controlled opposition hegelian dialectic.

>>139577070
Second point, you fucked up already:
>Claim: no aerial photos of body disposal taken by allies
>Your rebuttal: Sonderkommando photos -- NONE OF WHICH ARE AERIAL PHOTOS, but were supposedly taken "by resistance fighters posing as Sonderkommando"
Should I keep reading past the first lie you told?

>>139577486
3 different times?

Did he not keep records?

>>139577587
Who said anything about lending money?

I surely didn't.

What is this hegelian dialect you speak of, my dear Friend?

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>>139577546
>/comfy/.

Can't argue with comfy.
Fair enough. I have seen the BASED light.

Just stop making people stare at me on the train when i go to buy my choccy digestives

>>139558917
Only retarded faggots use ((http://rationalwiki.org))

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>>139577004

Jewish Soviet communist societies were never against global finance. Even Hitler talked about this. It was always a scam

>Soon the Jew became the leader of the battle against himself. I am speaking figuratively when I say “against himself” because the “great master of lies” always succeeds in making himself seem innocent and throwing the blame on others. Since he had the audacity to lead the masses himself, it never occurred to the people that this could be the most legendary fraud of all time...

>Without being aware of it, the laborer is put to work for the very power that he believes he is fighting against. He is led to believe he is acting against capitalism, and therefore he is easily made to fight for capitalism. The cry is heard against international capital, but the real target is the national economy. The current economy must be destroyed so that the international stock exchange can replace it on the corpse-strewn battlefield, with Jewish financial world interests.

>To achieve his goal, the Jew proceeds as follows: he creeps up on the workers in order to win their confidence, pretending to have compassion for their poverty and circumstances or even anger at their miserable lot in life. He is careful to study all the real or even their imagined problems. Then he arouses the desire for change. With infinite shrewdness, he stirs up the urge for (((SOCIAL JUSTICE))), an innate desire that is sleeping within every Aryan. Once the fire is burning, the Jew turns it into hatred toward those more fortunate and puts the stamp of a very special World-Concept on the battle; he builds a philosophy designed to correct social injustice. He founds the Marxist doctrine.

The only communist attempts that were genuinely against global finance were non-Jews who took ideas from the Communist Manifesto by (((Marx))) seriously rather than the BS it was

It's why the USSR sided with capitalists against NatSoc Germany, they all had the same banking interests

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>>139577778
You earned it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_mlzDC3V_k

This is my favorite youtube video.

Please enjoy with me as we travel back in time.

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>>139577734
sniff sniff
>Central Bank to distribute the funds of said State.
You cited central banking within a communist state as a sign that it was evidence of some jewish conspiracy.

My point is that the entire basisi of controlling the money supply for a supposed degenerate Jew, is usury and money lending.

In any case, what did Hitler do with regards to banking reform? Does that make him a Jew?

>What is this hegelian dialect you speak of, my dear Friend?
Ask zizek

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>>139577936
>I bloody showing you the earning.

>>139578111
Yes, distribute funds.

I said nothing of lending funds.

Who is this zizek you speak of, my dear Friend?

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>>139577486
>Hoess was beaten on the day of his capture
Then he was tortured; the same passage says he was beaten until he gave them information. It's an admission of torture, now you want to pretend we haven't spent half the thread throwing proof that he was tortured at you kikes and your lying denials?
>once you prove it so I can't possibly squirm, I'll switch my tactics and pretend we were never arguing against your evidence
Typical Jewish argument style.

>>139578111
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_ruble#First_Soviet_ruble

I mean they clearly still used "money" in the USSR?

So what are you saying? They weren't "true" communists? Are we on that talking point again?

>>139578011
This is probably a better argument.
>War.

The banking argument>>139577929
is stupid as Hitler himself didn't just dole out reforms with some magic beans. Banks were needed.
The presence of a central bank is not indication of a conspiracy in of itself.

>>139578358
No, that if reform of money through a centralized bank is evidence to you of a jewish conspiracy then you have to cite Hitler as part of that same conspiracy or indeed any central authority anywhere that has or would ever issue currency backed by central government.

Zizek is a philosopher who would make you think and laugh.

>>139578111
and if they weren't "true" communists...

Does this mean they were Jews posing as communists?

Or am I just reading too far into this?

Thank you, also, please to tell who is zizek?

>>139578569
I don't like laughing, or thinking.

Are you suggesting Hitler was a puppet installed by Jews?

Now that's some heavy stuff Anon. Truly very thought provoking, and remember what I said? I don't like thinking...

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>>139578111
>My point is that the entire basisi of controlling the money supply for a supposed degenerate Jew, is usury and money lending.

That's the pretext but it wasn't done in the USSR. All they did was find a way to make the masses give them 100% of their wealth and property voluntarily, and have 100% control over the money. Check out this interview with ex-KGB agent Yuri Bezmenov.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3qkf3bajd4

Bezmenov: Well, life is obviously very much different for [the] simple reason that the Soviet Union is state capitalist economically. It’s a state capitalism, where an individual has absolutely no rights, no value; his life is nothing; it’s just like an insect. He is disposable. Where[as] in [the] United States even the worst criminal is treated as a human being, he has a fair trial, and some of them capitalize on their crimes...

The Bolsheviks were funded by rich Jewish bankers like Jacob Schiff, the Warburgs and the Rothschilds.

>WORLD FAMOUS MEN of the past accused the Jews of founding Communism. This charge is well founded. The Communist philosopy was drawn up by Karl Marx who descended from a long line of Rabbis. His ideology of anti-Christian and Socialist thought is outlined in the Jewish “TALMUD” which is the “bible” of the Jews. Of the four political groups which overthrew the Christan Czar of Russia two were 100% Jewish. They were the Mensheviks and The Jewish Bund. The other two were the Socialist Revolutionary Party and the Bolsheviks. Both were headed by Jews but had some Gentile members. Today we now know that Lenin was Jewish and all of the leaders of his first government were Jews. They were Trotsky, Zinoviev, Kamenev and Sverdlow. The wealthiest Jewish banker in the world at that time, Jacob Schiff of Kuhn, Loeb investment bank of New York City, gave Trotsky and Lenin $20 million to overthrow the Czar and establish the Soviet tyranny (according to the “NEW YORK JOURNAL-AMERICAN” of February 3, 1949.)

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>>139558917
lol he took that shit seriously

I am very sad and alone now that no one is replying to me...

I don't know what to do now.

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>>139578361

Hitler nationalized the central bank, removed the gold standard and started printing their own money interest free, then introduced barter trade (goods for goods) with other countries. This removed power from the banks so Germany became enemy #1 because their "monetary revolution" could spread to other countries and completely destroy the central banking system which Jews like the Rothschilds use to control the global economy.

The problem is a private Rothschild-owned central bank controlling the economy through debt, usury and inflation.

>>139577587
to be fair, marx theorized communism would emerge out of the degeneracy of capitalism.

as capitalism (as marx defined it, more of a broad "cultural/social/political phenomenon" emerging from technological and intellectual advancements, rather than merely economics) essentially creates pressures (profit-profit-profit, commodification, efficiency, etc.) that force society to change (land-consolidation, industrialization, urbanization, migration, etc. all aspects of the capitalism of his time, and to some degree today).

Marx was more level headed in "capital" than he was in the manifesto, admitting he doesn't exactly know what the next society will look like, and is making more of an approximation based on what he saw going on in his lifetime/at the time.

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I dont know what to believe anymore

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>>139579472
We'll get through this, little Penguin, don't worry.

>>139567592
>There was no unified political entity
>unified political entity for Jews meet two days later to discuss Germany
...
Do you retards even read the shit you shill? The holohoax did not happen the way Russia says it happened. Fuck off.

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>>139577637
This. You fucked any chance of that being reliable after you dodge one of the points made.

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>>139566368
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRxCuujxJSY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fi6dM-jByI&t

Here, this is long and detailed. Watch it.

>>139572314
How can you be sure that wasn't Soviet dug? They liked to blame Nazis for nay graves undug, even if they made them.

>>139576750
Aerial photos, official internal forms, or intercepted message to or from the camps. Along the lines of actual evidence.

From my point of view, its clear what happened:

Jews were some of the people purged from the Reich, eastwards. Germany took advantage of this by implementing labor camps to support their war effort. Due to the war souring, the camps degraded with a dwindling supply of resources. Typhus outbreaks throughout Europe were not uncommon, and the camps were areas that were hit hard with the pestilence. Zyklon B was a delousing agent, and was used to delouse clothing and possessions in an attempt to deter the disease. Gas chambers did exist in camps, as small sealed rooms that had proper filtration systems. The alleged gas chambers could not be used for gassings, due to the fact that they were no properly sealed. The gas was also highly flammable, meaning any open circuit or flame would have explosive consequences. The infrastructure simply did not exist for systematic genocide in the labor camps, especially for the numbers purported. Allied bombing of many camps, as 'military installations' caused significant death to prisoners caught in the stalled system. This is what occurred at Bergen-Belsen. What happened in the war was terrible, and millions of people died unnecessarily. But there simply isn't any evidence to support the claim of a systematic and genocidal gassing campaign.

Imagine if the internment camps of Japanese Americans had fallen into disarray due to axis invasion of US soil. Imagine they couldn't get any supplies due to axis bombings of infrastructure. Imagine if Typhus was rampant throughout the country, and subsequently the camps. That is chaos that would exist throughout America as it took it's last dying breath.

That is what happened, the chaos of war.

>>139558917
Censored by Youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlBA2zp992c&bpctr=1504073753

>>139569789
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2223831/How-Britain-tortured-Nazi-PoWs-The-horrifying-interrogation-methods-belie-proud-boast-fought-clean-war.html

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>>139558917
That stuff has all been debunked by scientists.
You need to read Mein Kampf and stop being so narrow minded.

>>139570610
>the bodies were just thrown in a giant pit that was set on fire
Do you know that the human body doesn't burn on its own? You need a ton of fuel. You need coke, coal, wood, oil, or something, and alot of it, to cremate people, let alone a huge mass of bodies. The human body is mostly water vapor.

>>139580250
>vapor

pls stop. but yes.

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Racists believe that the 103 countries that have expelled the Jews are all bad people who did it for no reason.

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>>139580413
Is this a duplicate image? I think it might be...

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>>139579737

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>>139580413

PAGE 10 OR RIOT

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>>139578262

>I'll switch my tactics and pretend we were never arguing against your evidence
>we

you're the only schizo in this thread and it is showing. This is my third post in this thread I very briefly scrolled down to. You conveniently do not comment on the truth bomb I dropped on your stupid ass which is Hoess changing his number concerning how many people died at Auschwitz several times, a duly noted typical revisionist argument tactic. That would be a tremendous blunder for any agency trying to make him stick to one version under threat of pain or death.

And the image you are shilling is garbage tier, for instance you continue to peddle the "4 million" and "1.5 million" number while the affidavit you posted says "2 million". Tell me, friend, if World Jewry wanted to con 7 billion goyim why would they allow this to happen? Unless of course, those numbers are completely unrelated to the Jewish holocaust and are inflated Soviet death tolls where the number doesn't ever claim it was talking about dead Jews. And, final segment of your image showing the unrelated malmedy trials finishes with a complete hoax: "As Allied governments now freely admit, most..." except they don't.

No source provided for that one, I'm afraid normies won't swallow your pill.

You got the Rupert Butler novel going for you, which is nice, but that same novel also says several hundred thousand people were murdered at Sobibor. Time you made a decision to trust a source or not. Can't have it both ways, kiddo.

>>139581836
but you actually did switch tactics

i FUCKING SAID PAGE 10

OR RIOT

DON'T MAKE ME START RIOTING YOU ASSHOLE FAGGOTS

THIS THREAD IS DONE

>>139577637
i stopped caring what it said when 'Soviet State commission' showed up

What did I just fucking say?

>>139558917
>Everything there is properly sourced
if it were, you would be posting from those sources, nigger

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>>139558917
whats wrong with killing your enemies? if anything the nazis were more merciful than others throughout history. Jews are just a bunch of pussies.

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>139576119
you are that juden rat that i btfoed, cause you cant provide with proper citated evidence and then just move the goalpoast?

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>>139558917
>filename
>tfw your ancestors were born too early and you were born too late to save any of them