Stalingrad

>>139488983

Hitler was a strategic moron. If a sane Right wing leader had taken over Germany, Germany would have likely been slowly re-united, and would have allied with the rest of Europe against the USSR.

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>>139489143

Hitler was right about a lot of things. But he was a complete amateur in regards to high level military strategy.

On the other end Stalin actually would listen to a few of his generals.

>>139488983
>>139489143
Nice meme. In reality, Hitler couldn't "win" the war. He was at war with the United States, Russia, and Brazil.

>>139488983
He was racked on psychedelic drugs at this point

>>139489614
>>139489143
>hitler was a strategic moron

This is a stupid meme that needs to die

>>139488983

It was his ego and he fucked it up for everyone, 120 miles to conquer Moscow but nope let's play ego with Stalin. Fuck hitler, Rommel > All.

He didn't know that America armed and helped to industrialize the military of Russia. And yes, it was autism. He didn't finished the brits, and went on to head the Russians. Very retarded move.

>>139489972
It's true, though. He got lucky, once.

>>139490118
This

>>139489614
Completely the opposite. The only reason that meme propogated is because we didn't have access to soviet sources for decades and every german blamed their problems on a dead man after the war, to avoid responsibility.

>>139489972
>Corporal in charge of military strategy.
No, he was by all means a political genius but a complete fool when it came to military. Whether it was hubris or outside factors is irrelevant, he failed to attain victory by his own methods.

>>139490581
He let the Brits at Dunkirk slip away.

>>139489746
yes ...
and brazil was our downfall

>>139489143
>would have allied with the rest of Europe
He did ally with a lot of European countries. If you are talking about France, England - then it would never happen. USSR was their (((guys))).

>>139491194
We kicked your asses, nazi faggots.
>We actually loved you as comercial allies, your banter system was perfect for trading our commodities for military tech
>We were goofed by the americans: either we joined them or either they invaded us

>>139491081
The mechanized forces had to regroup after a month of continously fighting amd the terrain around the beachhead was extremely unideal for them to fight in marshes. The bigger problem was the weather was terrible for the luftwaffe on the first few days, and they then latter incorrectly targeted the evacuation infastructure. Also, dunkirk would never had existed in the first place had hitler not championed the sickle stroke proposed by mannstein, against the wishes of the old prussian generals.

He could have reached victory on Europe. His love for the brits was his downfall. He sold the future of his grandiose plans, for his anglo bruderschaft bullshit. He just needed to win upon the anglos. He could have stopped his war there, and after that, unite the whole continent against a future final war with the soviets. He did done goofed. Still, this was the struggle suited for a semigod, no wonder he failed.

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It wasn't just Hitler, Tojo and Mussolini had shit tactics aswell. they all had goals that were reliant on very aggressive measures and they lacked the man power and technology to do so. The UK had colonial forces lined up, the Soviets had a big population, China also had a big population, and the US has two buffer oceans. If I remember correctly most co belligerents with the axis were defensive and none were buffer states. Finland was away in in the corner, Thailand had little influence.

The Axis didn't have the fighting force or the resources to commit to an extensive war.

>>139491998
Ok lol

>>139491345
This.

>>139489992
Moscow was fortified into something unbreakable.
No way were they going to take it, they knew this.

Germans ALMOST won Stalingrad, generally without the T34 the USSR would have caved. Germans also started to get fucked because Soviets understood it was the volga or lose the war, some of the most fierce fighting in all of history. German's were psychologically damaged when the soviets showed the first signs of overcoming what was thought the unstoppable army.

Nazis would have never won anyways. Even if they took Stalingrad. It would have been the most of Russia finished though.

>>139488983
educate yourself people!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demyansk_Pocket
crucial passage:
>"The success of the Luftwaffe convinced Reichsmarschall Hermann Göring and Hitler that they could conduct effective airlift operations on the Eastern front. Furthermore, it "determined Hitler in his belief that encircled troops should automatically hold on" to their territory."

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>>139495023
>just airlift supplies to your encircled troops :^)
So much for meeting with triumph and disaster and treating those two impostors just the same.