ALL OPTIONS ARE ON THE TABLE!? AGAIN!?

Agree. This fat gook ia laughing his ass off while the world is too afraid to react.

>>139467704
trump needs to prove he isn't a cuck. the ONLY way is to attack kim.

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>>139467994
Tokyo has to become a smoldering crater before anyone does something I guess.

If Trump nuked Kim and Korea, people would hate on him, guaranteed.

If I were Trump, I'd fire off every nuke at every possible target and go hide in my bunker.

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>>139467704
Lmao trump is getting schooled by a twenty something fat gook

34d chess amirite fellow m'pedes?

>>139468113
>the ONLY way is to attack kim.

nk will level Seoul

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>HURR DURR GOING TO TEXAS
>HURR DURR JUST IGNORE THE GOOKS

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>see a nation with a psychotic dictator, on the brink of developing intercontinental nuclear missiles
>"lets all wait until they have intercontinental nuclear missiles, THEN we'll do something about it"

Can someone explain why this has been the case? Surely there's no downside to eliminating the threat before it has the means to destroy the world in retaliation, instead of waiting until they do?

>>139469026
They get everything from China anon, they didn't develop the ICBMs either.

>>139469026
Becuase everyone is goddamn retarded.

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what if the missile that was launched from NK was launched from a USA submarine near the coast of NK? If a missile flies over Japan and they knew it came from NK they would have shot it down. This is a false flag operation to launch war against NK.

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>>139467704
>instead of once again telling the world that all options are on the table!?

>>139469026
>Surely there's no downside to eliminating the threat before
Seoul is well within range of North Korean conventional artillery.

The downside on dicking the NKs has always been
1. If China supports them you can't win (which is how they came to exist in the first place)

2. They can fuck up south Korea very easily and quickly with capabilities they have had for decades.

So waiting was the easy option.

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>>139468379
>4d chess

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DO IT
NUKE THE GOOK

Nook the Gook!

>>139467704
You guys dont realize kim is just playing along until america makes the first real move.
So they can then show off how innocent victims they are.
Trump better makes sure to collaborate with china or it might get nasty from there on

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we are going to save japan,r-right guys?

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>>139467704

>>139468515
At some point we will need to strike. The longer we wait the more damage NK will do. It's just a question of whether we wait for NK to strike Guam, Japan, or west coast first then strike (in which case those people in SK die) or we attack first (in which case, those people in SK die). Those people are already dead. Unless China is willing to cut off all trade and starve the regime into submission there is no getting around that possibility.

>>139470649
Haven't you heard the news?
China is going to do shit about Kim.
They are laughing their ass off, too.

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>>139467704
>will he recover?
Supreme leader is at it again, how can Potus Donkeybottom even compete?

>>139468125
We can't lose Japy. We need 3D printed waifus

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Trump is damned if he does nothing, damned if he does something. Might as well stomp the Norks and take their rare earth minerals.

>>139469026
agreed. this has been the threat we should have been addressing instead of Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, etc...

>>139470357
To get him to Goto ear Anons need to spam his Twitter account with memes like this.

But please think if war is what you really want

>>139467704
Why doesn't he shoot a rocket over NK in retaliation?

>>139470690
>needs no allies, strong enough to face down the entire world alone
China is the only reason we haven't glassed NK. If they allowed us to without any form of retribution, we wouldn't even blink an eye.

>>139467704
Americas mistake was pushing up on Russias border in places like Georgia. The sleeping bear woke up and pushed back and left America and NATO under no illusion that their time was up. Russia and China know America is weak and declining and they are starting to stake their own claims and NK is being used and helped to show how weak they really are. America can't win a ground war and they know it. Yeah it has lots of toys but when it comes to boots on the ground war, it is weak. Global power is shifting and you are blind if you don't see it. America is effectively in retreat so all you can expect is more of the same and all you can do is suck it up. America won't nuke NK and the US military and everyone else knows the US can't win a ground war. This is just efforts by NK, Russia, and China to push America out of the region. They find it unacceptable to have US bases on their doorstep just as the US would find it unacceptable to have Chinese bases on the Mexican border. America's adventures in Iraq/Afghanistan have exposed its weakness to the world and it has been retreating ever since, Georgia, Ukraine, Syria and now NK. Its position as world leader has gone and no amount of American posturing or propaganda can hide it.

>>139469026
yes, it's retarded, you can thank the Clinton administration for that one.

>>139470762
Obviously they laugh now, because nothing ever happens other than provocations off both sides. I laugh too evertime i read about it.
China would help the rest of the world once NK attacks the us or anybody else first.
If trump feels provocated (which is exactly what kim jong un tries) and stupidly makes the first move then i guess china would stand on NKs side which would end in a mess

>>139470377
https://worldview.stratfor.com/article/how-north-korea-would-retaliate
>>139471031
what would china even do in retaliation? they might piss and moan but as long as we let them install a favorable government they would get over it.

>>139471049
Basically this

>>139468322
Nobody would care most people have no clue who nuked japan other than muhrica

>>139468515
>decide to live in the artillery range of psychotic communists relying on the notion that they are just pretending to be retarded

>>139470690
This.

Best Korea will show Trump why their supreme leader is called Kim CHAD-un

>>139470735

so china is the only thing that can save worst korea.

>>139471202
>Retarded
You realize Kim probably had a better education than you, right?

>>139467704
Tbh he should just nuke them

We need to organize massive prowar demonstrations where everyone chants NUKE THE NORKS untill we finally get Kim killed. I would vote for anyone that glassed NK for the rest of their career.

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>>139467704
I..It's 4-d chess right g..guys?

>>139469026

1) NK has the largest standing army in the world, even if they are undernourished and/or underequipped the sheer numbers are surprisingly massive

2) they are so dug into the mountains that even the US blasting them to kingdom come wouldn't KO them, there would be years of brutal combat

3) as other anons have pointed out, seoul is well within reach of artillery etc and hundreds of thousands would like die as soon as war was declared

4) along those lines, china, japan and other nations are well within reach of NK missiles

5) when the war was won, there will be literally millions of dirty, uneducated, unskilled, brainwashed peasants with no where to go, and would likely be the worst humanitarian crisis in human history

OBVIOUSLY NK would lose "bigley", but i think the clear hope is that war can be avoided and the regime can be dismantled internally in the longer term, in a more organic fashion, since "victory" would still be a disaster of epic proportions

>>139471049
Basically not this

>>139467704
He isn't making statements to say this shit reporters ask him "what about North Korea" and he gives some benign answer.
Are you stupid or what

>>139467704

i'm kinda impressed how north korea was able to manipulate their political opponents into a no-win scenario.
kinda whatever option is chosen is going to result in a Pyrrhic victory.
i'd be more impressed if i actually thought that north korea pulled this shit off intentionally rather than the rest of the world just ignoring the retard until it was too late.

>>139471202

>choose to live in a trump voter-dominated community where there is zero economic opportunity and there are more food stamp recipeints than jobs

i dont really see the difference.

>>139471049
i've been saying this for years. If the local population hates you the war is unwinnable. The us can only win battles but the war is lost from the start. If the US wasn't a bunch of pussies they could genocide the locals populations into submission, thats how its always been done.

>>139471049
Russia is a meme scotch tape country.

>implying NKorea isn't chinese controlled entirely
>implying US politicians arn't working with china to destabilize trump admin and scare america

I really hope one of those Chinese missile tests hit land in Japan.

>>139467704
Iraq; fair enough, a nation surrounded by mindless fuckwits who can't wipe their own ass, who else is gonna sort that shit out?
North Koreas; a nation surrounded by competent neighbours that can clean up their own fucking mess.
Why exactly should Trump drag the country he's trying to fix into that bullshit?

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>>139467704
THE MISSILE FLEW OVER JAPAN HOW IS THIS NOT A THREAT? HOW IS THIS NOT WAR , HOW IS THIS NOT HAPPENING

>>139467704
>Europeans and liberals if Trump does react
omfg drumpf is such a fucking warmonger i can't believe he actually got his panties in a twist over a little missile. we have something called diplomacy here in europe, we've lived in total peace for thousands of years until trump was elected. this maniac will get us all killed

>Liberals and Europeans if Trump doesn't react
*breathes in* HAHAHHAHAHA XDDD america is such a pussy neutered country can't even defend itself and her allies. my superior country would slay the entire north korean army in a single battle because we are so bad ass at war and everything. this is why you never won a war, pussies.

>>139471049

>this triggers the american.

>>139471536
Let's start with this. What is it you want to "win"? Start by defining what "victory" is and then we can discuss.

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Nothing is going to happen again.

Maybe a new sanction that will hurt their imported cheese market or something.

But nothing is going to happen. No one wants to compromise with NK. We will have to see a direct hit with Japanese casualties for a happening to happen.

Even just hitting SK will not be enough.

>>139471049

I completely agree with you.

>>139471782
>Start by defining what "victory" is
Vietnam

The United States is a paper tiger. There's no reason to worry about U.S. unless you are disorganized goat fucker.

Even if you are a goat fucker, U.S. probably cannot defeat you.

>fighting Taliban 16 years.
>fighting IS 10 years.

l m a o
m
a
o

Are American soldiers mentally capable of combat?

>>139471348
>not giving china a reason to declare war
>showing the rest of east asians the need for american military protection
>not starting irrelevant wars like former presidents

y-yeah d-rumpf is a literal idiot
neck yourself

>>139471631
Because U.S. is Japan's ally and has defense treaties with Japan and SK.

>>139471432
Describe the scenario that leads to victory against NK without use of force.

>>139471432
>they are so dug into the mountains that even the US blasting them to kingdom come wouldn't KO them
just read about all the good aerial bombardment did in ww2 against the japanise islands, nothing short of a nuke will do any damage at all. The only way nukes could be used is by an international coalition with us china russia EU, UN, etc... all agreed together that north korea needed to be nuked, and that will never happen in a million years because of the precedent it sets.

>>139471432
Americans are always sure that the other side will lose "biggly". American efforts since WW2 haven't exactly been a masterclass in sucess. A war with NK would weaken America and accelerate its decline from the only superpower to one of a group of major powers. The US government/military knows this.

>>139471935
You probably can destabilize NK by sending transgender soldiers in their country

>>139471576
That type of country can survive in a war better than pampered burgers

>>139467704
>implying that options are ever off the table

>>139471576
Meanwhile they're enjoying their freshly annexed Crimea while the US is screeching.

>>139467704
>Kim won't give in
>Guess I should bend over and stop telling him not to develop nukes then....
>German intellectuals really went downhill after you got rid of the Jews huh?
Dresden 2.0 when?

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>>139468379

>>139471576
>Underestimating the Slavs
>Again.

How many countries need to fail at conquering Russia before people get the hint

>>139472016

every second of combat will be fought on the NK peninsula. i spent the entire post describing how the reason the US doesnt want to go to war is because of the massive losses that all sides will incur no matter what, but if you think that fighting 100% of the war on korean soil != NK losing "bigley", you're an underage faggot.

vietnam may have been a disaster, but if you think the US "lost" that war, you're a simplistic retard.

>>139471432
>the clear hope is that war can be avoided and the regime can be dismantled internally in the longer term, in a more organic fashion
How the hell would this happen?

>>139472016
>A war with NK would weaken America and accelerate its decline from the only superpower to one of a group of major powers
Short of losing Guam and maybe San Diego, how would it weaken America? There's no group of major powers. Russia's bark is worse than its bite.

>>139472142
Mean while after sanctioning Russia for a decade, the Russian banana economy has shaped itself to a more varied economy that revitalized its own inner economy & market.

the United States sanctions have literally made Russia stronger than it was, kek. Fucking dumb fucks.

>>139472204
You failed at every objective you had, you lost popular support in your own country and Vietnam turned Communist.

What exactly did you win?

>>139467704
>¥¥¥ THICCNORK General ¥¥¥

>>139471576
Russia supplies 25% of European gas and oil so that alone gives it an upperhand when deal with US/NATO. Europe will always be reluctant to support the US against Russia.

>>139471969
let the kim dynasty collapse upon itself or deal with china to organize a palace coup
honestly if the U.S. just left SK and Japan NK would stop existing almost instantly

>>139468322
People already hate on trump, whether or not its true, millenials will view him as the worst president ever.

He has absolutely nothing to lose.

>>139469026
Because we have to respect that they can develop to have the same weapons we have ? They obviously want to be able to defend themselves. However, intervention is a possible option after starving the gooks with economic sanctions

>>139471969

it's more a scenario of hoping the regime is taken down from within and covertly supporting efforts for this to occur. obviously that's a long shot too but given the reasons i listed, it's a much more desirable route to take.

to be clear, it's less about "victory" and more about NK collapsing under its own weight like the USSR did. the US has virtually nothing to gain but LOTS to lose from an offensive war against a shithole like NK.

>>139467704
welcome to foreign policy retard, 90% of it is posturing.

This shit has been going on for decades, but you retarded weebs only care when it involves japan.

>>139471782
territory expansion, the only real way to fight a war faggot. Expand the american empire. I would enlist tomorrow if the us millitary was willing to go the distance, even if the result was the nuclear wasteland of unified world america I would sign up for that shit. Gas masks and infrared cameras would be dope and shit would be fallout real life edition. USA could do it, just waiting on VR to improve slightly so we can hibernate in our underground bunkers a little more comfortabley. TFW this was the plan all along...

>NK has a big army, mountain bunkers, and missiles
>we won't stop them from building IBCMs because they'll wreck shit with those
>so we'll wait until they have a big army, mountain bunkers, missiles, and IBCMs to wreck even more shit

Explain this logic.

>>139472302

i didn't say the US won either, but it's hilarious that you can posit a "loss" when not a single bullet was fired on american soil. stay in school kiddo.

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>>139467704
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8nrdiQqFAs

>>139471952
Since when does the US grubby their hands with the problems of allies falling on hard times? France was instrumental in their independence, and the US waited until Pearl Harbor before giving a fuck.

>>139467704
yea let's start a major conflict in asia, get a major metro flattened by artillery fire and send the world economy into chaos to prove what big dicks we have. He should just outright say we will nuke you off the face of the earth if you bomb someone, but I'm sure the pussies of the international community wouldn't take that well.

>>139472388
>it's more a scenario of hoping the regime is taken down from within and covertly supporting efforts for this to occur
This isn't going to happen in a million years. Israel and Palestine will become bros before that happens. India and Pakistan will become bros before that happens. Hell, the rest of the world will renounce nukes and destroy their arsenals before that happens. In other words, never.

>>139471312
So have the junkies rioting for their red flag on the street, what's your point? Education doesn't make you smart it makes you indoctrinated.

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>>139472481
> not a single bullet was fired on american soil
And yet they won

>>139472479
Same outcome no matter what.

>>139472204
American propaganda at work. Believe what you want you fucking idiot.

>>139467704
Drop 1 Nuke on 5th largest NK City.
Make a small statement, saying when they retaliate or continue aggression, more of that will come immediatly.

That works. 100%.
Takes balls. But works.

I would do it- when you read some of his previous statements on life etc. in general you see that Trump also knows thats the only way to go. Lets see what happens.

>>139472718
Right, but surely it would be better to engage them now while they don't have IBCMs. Better to have Seoul in ruins than have Seoul, Tokyo, New York and DC in ruins.

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>>139467704
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcFcjUtJ8zU

KOREA BEST KOREA
대한민국 베스트 대한민국
>KOREA BEST KOREA
대한민국 베스트 대한민국
KOREA BEST KOREA
대한민국 베스트 대한민국
>KOREA BEST KOREA
대한민국 베스트 대한민국

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>>139472481
bullets have been fired on American soil during every war

>>139472388
Sure it's more desireable, but if you wait for the ideal situation to happen you allow him longer to perfect his missile technology and at some point he will be capable of actually striking us - which he will do upon first whiff of a coup. Then he strikes SK and us. Best case scenario he starts making unreasonable demands on us which we will be obliged to grant since we are so reluctant to go to war against NK

>>139472479
It makes sense if you were never even planning to stop them but have to save face.

>>139467704
So hes using up his supply of very outdated limited missile count and thats supposed to scare us how?
Like i dont even understand his line of reasoning

Let's be honest, in the end this will be a nothingburger.
Kim does this for decades, people were flipping out when he didn't even have nukes.
He didn't even come close to Guam, he couldn't let a SK-US military manoeuvre go unanswered obviously.
He is always walking razor's edge, nobody would support a preemptive strike just because of his rocket launch, he knows this very well.

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>>139472487
Frankfurt here

Shit's on fire and it's not even Thursday

>>139472749

quite literally not an argument.

>>139472780
If we drop nuclear weapons on north korea, it wont be on civilian cities. it would be on strategic military bases with ample warning to the nearby civilian cities.

>>139468113
*rubbing hands together*
YES GOY LAUNCH A WAR ON THE EVIL NATIONALISTIC GOOKS!!!

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>>139467994

>>139472892
Reminder that "experts" thought NK wouldn't have a missile able to hit North America until at least a year or two.

I wouldn't be surprised if another country was actually supplying them parts

>>139472972
>another virgin falling for the jew meme

let me guess, you've alienated yourself from your family and have never seen a pussy in person before? YOU are the jew.

>>139472892
He's building better missiles.

>>139473014
obviously russia, the cold war never ended

>>139472972
north korea is awful. we're going to smoke em.

>>139472972
If anything the Jews want North Korea to stick around forever. It's one of their many distractions.

>>139473125
I really hope thats true, but I feel like it's incredibly unlikely at this point, it's just more saber rattling until NK actually does something and the Liberal US would get behind a war only then.

>>139472968

Who gives a fuck about their civilians? Murder then all is the most rational option.

>>139473327
>the Liberal US would get behind a war
They'll probably support NK over Trump by this point.
>if you attack the enemy, they win

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>>139472302
We killed millions of gooks burnt half their forests leveled entite cities to the ground, came literally within spitting range of their central command but were told to pull back by our own commanders because "reasons" and on top of that we did it amidst a guerilla warefare with no clear objectives whatsoever, which is stunning

So what have you done today you degenerate fuck besides shitposting on a himalayan lolirape forum

Launch a tomahawk and have it crash a mile or so offshore of the norks, then send a message saying there are hundreds more ready to flatten Pyongyang.

>>139473327
The Third Reich could nuke us from their moon base and they'd still side against Trump.

>>139473404
If North Korea actually launched a nuke at south korea or Japan, or even Guan, war enthusiasm would shoot through the roof, because everyone loves to feel like the good guy, and acting in self defense of your allies who are on the defensive is the ultimate show of being a good guy.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUxX1vD4j4I
real north korea (no fauxnews propaganda from trumpistan)

also: global best violines are from DPRK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Id0IP0vHKQU

It's another the United States military isn't THAT amazing episode.

>>139473471
Trust a fucking leaf to come up with the dumbest idea.
>launch Tomahawk
>norks sperg out and fire a dozen missiles, blowing up half of Inchon
>"there are hundreds more ready to flatten Seoul, your move Trump"

>>139473321
Then just fucking ignore them, its a jew war to destroy their remaining nationalism and implament global banks
Anything the jews cant profit off of them upsets them greatly
Im not saying kim isnt a manchild however if you cant see whats going on youre bluepilled as fuck yo

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>>139473433
Yeah, yeah, we get it.

You "won"

>>139473391
nice edge.

>>139472479
North Korea is not a threat to us, militarily. They just want to improve their capabilities so they can have more influence internationally.
>acquire strategic weapons
>reduce chances of getting "democratically enriched"

We don't get along with them geopolitically, so we'd prefer it if they stayed weak, poor, and irrelevant. So, for decades, we've been bribing them with aid, so that they would stay pacified.

We know North Korea is not going to try to attack us or our allies in any meaningful way, and both sides know that North Korea wouldn't stand a chance if they did attack.

This is just a dance that we do.

>>139473641
>if you cant see whats going on youre bluepilled as fuck yo

lel could u do the *hands together* thing and post the jew? u r really funnie and oreginal!!

>>139473693
>We know North Korea is not going to try to attack us or our allies in any meaningful way
What's stopping them from quietly building their missiles without spooking the gooks and nips?

You know what would be funny - if one of their scare missiles failed halfway and dropped on Japan when it was meant to land in the Pacific.

>>139467704
>all these fag shills defending gommie systems
wow you sure showed the people how much you love commie cock as long as it's powerful enough

>>139473124
>obviously russia, the cold war never ended
you are a fucking idiot we are now in a cold war with china you moron

>>139473660
As i said you cant win a war with no objective, thats impossible, however if you look at the sheer damage done youd realize we did a lot better than the NVA
I hope you actually consider this and youre not just acting retarded on pur...
*sees flag*
Lol nevermind everything checks out here

>>139473790
>nu/pol/
Youre being too obvious

>>139473894
>if one of their scare missiles failed halfway and dropped on Japan when it was meant to land in the Pacific
As scary as it is, it's a likely possibility

>>139469026

Because nk is a proxy for China. China has announced they will back nk if we attack first, meaning we either

- attack first and set off a worldwar

- let nk continue developing missiles and gradually pushing western influence out of the pacific region

The problem is the lack of response to Norks over the years has confirmed the US's inability to handle the situation, guaranteeing that Kim will continue to advance until SHTF. Kim and his generals need to wake up dead all at once someday soon.

>>139474019
>American education trying to talk shit
You can just stop pretending and admit the objective was to prevent Vietnam from turning commie.

>>139467704
>14 launches in a year
>proven that North Korea can hit Japan and South Korea
>credible threats all the On my way!
>North Korea has nukes
>North Korea trying to miniaturize if it hasn't already

What is he supposed to do? Everyone knew Korea would have to be dealt with eventually.

>you will never be a part of the 2nd Korean war
Feels bad man.

I keep waiting for the briefing that will never come.

>>139474124
Exactly. Which is why we shouldn't even tolerate their "lmao we never gonna kill you guys we just wanna protect ourselves haha" game plan.

>>139468113
facts

>>139469026
The risk is china involving itself like last time

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What the fuck is Kim thinking trying to nuke anime land? Does he really want a weeb uprising?

Yo whatever you do, do it after 2019. I'm going to Japan then and don't want to face more radiation than there is there already.

>>139474289
American populace is too cowardly for a total war against North Korea and China, it will never happen and U.S. will be cucked until the far future.

>>139474213
>China has announced they will back nk if we attack first
If we all go in on wiping NK off the map, what makes China think they'll survive?

>>139474363
Buddy, America nuked Japan twice and they never invaded the US, never tortured Americans on their land and never raped American women.

It's only fair NK gets to nuke them a few times

>>139467704
Is Trump president of Japan? Are they not a sovereign nation?
If any country launched a missle over the US they would be fucking toast.
Would Japan's president order a retaliation if the same happened to us?

I seriously doubt China would defend Korea at this point. They have nothing to gain anymore, There is no cold war. There is no war of ideology. China should not fear a democratic south korean state holding the entire peninsula.

China's media isn't so suppressed that their general public doesnt know what North Korea is doing. There would be zero public support for a Chinese involvement in DPRK's defense. With all the Free Speech shit going on in China, that much additional dissent could go very poorly for such a gigantic nation.

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>>139468125
it would be an excuse for total war.
50k dead and around 100k wounded
the nuke used has the same KT of the last NK tested nuke
and the reason for the sourface detonations is because im not sure they got the tech for reliable airbursts.

>>139473894
>What's stopping them from quietly building their missiles without spooking the gooks and nips?

Nothing. But their goal is to kick up as much shit as they can. The more "concern" they can generate, the more leverage they have next time we decide to bribe them. If they were actually serious, they would be quiet about it.

And they're not going to test anything with nuclear warheads in it. So even if one of their ICBMs somehow managed to fall into something other than the sea, the damage would be minimal

>>139474702
Well you see, after WWII we basically cucked them into becoming an American vassal state. They can't have a major army or have big shiny weapons to deter other countries from nuking them. That's why they have Article 9 in their cucked Constitution that was drafted by us. Basically America-niichan has to take responsibility.

>>139474702
Japan can not declare war itself because of the way the US created their constitution.

The US is essentially Japan's guarddog because we set it up that way. Protecting Japan is the US's responsibility.

NUKE THE GOOK

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>>139467704
All talk, no action. Kim took a massive dump on Trump by shotting his rocket over Japan. I love it!

>>139468379
>checks flag

.02$ makes you rich in your country

>>139474803
>So even if one of their ICBMs somehow managed to fall into something other than the sea, the damage would be minimal
Let me run a what-if situation by you: suppose North Korea fires a less lethal missile that, intentionally or unintentionally, lands on one of the smaller Japanese cities and kills about a couple hundred people. What do we do? What can Japan do?

>>139473681

They don't see you as human, why you should be merciful with someone that can kill you with no mercy.

Only God is merciful, humans are only merciless murdering machines for their own egoistic reasons.

The US and SK are still at war with NK, so why the fuck can't they attack?

>>139475155
Japan can't do anything as it's written in their constitution by the US.

>>139474799
>how to take a screenshot

>>139474483
Do you really believe that America could sustain a war against China, Russia and NK. 2 billion people and a vast geographical landscape would make it impossible. Americans think Russia is just somebackwad nation yet it now relies on them to send astronauts into space. It also has a massive stockpile of Nukes as has China. Throw into this Russias endless supply of natural resources and a Russia/China/NK alliance would be impossible to defeat. Never underestimate your opponents, this is the first rule of war.

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Do you understand that /POL/ could easily meme a war?
It is possible to make an agitation on Twitter to influence big Twitter accounts to write comments on trump page. Or if you have a Twitter account with a big amount of followers to write comments under trump posts directly.
So why we didn't meme'd a WW3 yet?

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>>139471101
Fuck china we should be glassing them instead
All of this NK shit is being instigated with chink support

>>139470873
3d print a fuking money machine???

>>139475303
>Russia
For all their dealings with Xi and passive aggressive backing of NK, I doubt they would get involved. Putin would probably take a backseat and watch us and China wear each other down.

>>139469026
It didn't threaten Israel.

Now Iranian peaceful nuclear energy program, on the other hand...

>>139475156
They don't see me as human because they are brain washed. All human life is equal, regardless of ideology. I support involvement in korea, but nuking civilians is a good way to cause a civil war.

>>139475224
An armistice is essentially the end of the war until someone nigs up and attacks again. No one wants to be responsible for millions of deaths.

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ID IS REALLY HABBIDING :DDDD

>>139475274
Japan actually can participate in war if if they are attacked first.

>>139475303
us would never invade china but sure as shit could blockade them into a full economic collapse at which point we wouldn't have to do shit for 500 million of them to starve to death.

>>139475295
Gtfo

Genetically engineered nuclear-powered NK Chads Vs gay transgender American soldiers

>>139475610
Cull the population. I like it.

>>139475065
This attitude is ignorant. N. Korea is literally zero threat to the US and its allies. We can shoot down any missile within seconds of it leaving the ground. Seems like you think barking loudly makes you a big dog.

>>139475636
Actually Trump banned transgenders from serving. The ones that were already serving were kicked out I think.

>>139475444
Maybe thats true, but you would still need to factor Russia into the mix. You could be certain that the would try and take advantage of Americas situation just like the US took advantage of Russia after the break up of the Soviet Union.

>>139475859
>The ones that were already serving were kicked out
Nope

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>>139468125
mfw I have friends living in Tokyo including a Japanese girl from college I never rold my feelings to

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>>139475795
You don't understand. NK is literally showing the whole world, that anyone can have nuclear programs/weapons if they really want it and the Policeman of the World can't do shit.

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>>139467704

>>139475460
But both sides have broken the armstice e few times.
NK broke it 1994, 1996, 2003, 2006, 2009 and 2013 by saying themselves that they will not abide to it.

>>139475795
>we can shoot down any missile
Missile defense systems do not have 100% success rate. Last I heard it's more towards the 50% mark.

So if Korea fires 1000 missiles toward south korea, quite a few of them will hit.

Thats not to mention that Seoul is within artillery range of the North Korean border. The moment any military action happens they will level the city.

There isn't anything you can do to stop artillery save a pre-emptive strike on every known artillery location.

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>>139470357
Yeah white.

>>139471432
>implying we wouldn't just use Jew tactics and drop down crates of crack cocaine after microwaving the first few zerg rushes.
It worked on nogs

>>139475155
>kills about a couple hundred people.

That's not really how ICBMs work. They can be armed with conventional warheads, but that's not the kind that North Korea is testing. Whether it's a malfunctioning re-entry vehicle that lands in Japan, or if the ICBM itself somehow falls on Japan in its first stage, the damage would extremely localized.

It'd be like dropping a bus onto Japan.

Even if it did somehow manage to kill a decent number of Japanese, it would be an obvious mistake, and North Korea would get "enriched" severely for it. China wouldn't back them up.

Strategically, that'd be a good outcome for us.

>>139471049
Sure paco. America would kick anyone's ass on the ground but our politicians are too cucked to do anything about it.

>NK:we gonna fucking do it
>everyone: please dont do it
>trump: fucking do it you faggot

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>>139467704
>flag
Learn to fight our own war before you stoop in to grab some attention from US residents.

>>139467704
a german is afraid of norks firing dud missiles 200 miles from their shore. fuck hitler should have thrown yall in the oven and replaced you with somebody who isnt a bitch

>>139476308
>That's not really how ICBMs work
I did say "less lethal missile".

Wouldn't even a bus dropping into a town and killing an elderly couple be a diplomatic crisis? Imagine that happening here.
>norks chuck a bus
>it flattens some morning jogger in Frisco
>but he was still a redblooded American

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>>139475631

>>139476353
I think tons of people are praying they do something.

Japan is hoping they attack south korea
South Korea is hoping they attack Japan
Trump is waiting for N. Korea to do anything so he can stop looking like a cuck

>>139472481
Wot? That is the weakest condition for a loss I have ever heard.

>>139472302
>lost popular support
Is that what you call subversion by Communist Jews in the media and government? Is that what you call the utter abandonment of the white working class in favor of nigs and spoiled college hippies? Is that what you call the fifth column of American (((academia))) backstabbing the people?

>>139476541
kys kike newfag

>>139476203
they wont level the city... https://worldview.stratfor.com/article/how-north-korea-would-retaliate

>>139473660
>European
You're losing a war against immigration as we speak

>>139476339
Really, to sustain the war in Iraq the US needed to hire an army. At one point the ratio was 1:1 that is one hired private soldier for every America soldier. There was 100,000 of each. The coaliton of the willing weren't so willing. American cash helped rent an army to look half way respectable and everyone knows it. Bring in a draft to fight psycho brainwashed norks and see how popular that is.

Have you not realized yet that Trump is just another cock-holster for the sick and perverted jews that even infiltrated his shit family?

He will talk a lot o talk but not walk any walk. He is a giant man-pussy and should grab himself.

He is a choker that fucking demented retard. Soon he will start talking about lines in the sand like that fucking idiot nigger u had running your retarded fucking country before the demented one.

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>>139476541
>>139475295

being this new

>>139472898
This demonstrated we weren't prepared/able to shoot down a surprise missile. If he wanted to hit Guam he may be able to.

>>139467704
There's no point in declaring war against NK if the fucking ching chongs don't join in.
And the Chinese are being thick fucks about this.

>>139476519
>I did say "less lethal missile".

Yeah, but like I said, that's not what they are testing. They're testing ballistic missiles; which, despite their long range, are terrible to use for delivering conventional payloads. There's no point in "testing" plain, old conventional weapons anyway. Everyone has them; even North Korea.

Them accidentally killing a few Japanese people would give us the perfect mandate to go in and put an end to their shenanigans. For that reason, it's probably North Korea's worst nightmare.

It'd be a great opportunity for us.

>>139467704
t. Kike

>>139467994
>the world

Nobody but Jewmerica wants to react.

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>>139476541
welcome to 4chan you fucking redditor, now get out

>>139469026
>muh intercontinental

They will never be able to hit European targets. Only the Gooks and Jewmericans need to worry.

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>>139477375
i would love to have total war with NK
im undraftable but got some capital
>every uneducated negro get drafted and thrown in to the meat grinder while im opening a bussnes to create military supplies.

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>>139477375
>Them accidentally killing a few Japanese people would give us the perfect mandate
If a few Japanese people must be sacrificed for the Greater Good™, I hope they're not cute JKs

>>139475295
I thought summer was over.

>>139469026
>Surely there's no downside to eliminating the threat

The only threat to the world that should be eliminated is the USA. How this country, who used nukes twice, is still allowed to posses them is a miracle to me.

I WANT A FULL SCALE WAR NOW

>>139477642
Prefrably on Isreali soil.

>>139477626
Come take them from us :^)

>>139475295
>>139476541
>this flag
I don't know if you are baiting or if you are newfag but whatever option it is you should consider suicide you fag

>>139477642
>The Jew will have his war

>>139469026
Because Seoul would have been turned into a sea of fire through conventional means. Which mean nothing short of a full scale war could secure a lasting peaceful resolution to the matter. Now that the stakes are higher ie nuclear oblivion from korean missiles, the incentive to go to war just got a little more attractive.

>>139467704
JUST FUCKING NUKE THEM AND BE DONE WITH IT, IF YOU DON'T THEY MIGHT NUKE U FIRST THEN IT'S TOO LATE

YOU BE ENDING THE SPIRAL OF REPRESSION, ALL NK PEOPLE WANT WAR TO END THEIR SUFFERING FFS, GIVE IT TO THEM
ALL NK MILITARY WOULD RUN SOUTH OR TO CHINA, EVAC SK, SEND IN THE US FLEETS AND BOMB THEM INTO THE GROUND

>>139467704
You don't want to be the one who starts the war.

It's stupid to act before NK actually does something, war related.

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>>139478057
DO NOT FIRE UNTIL FIRED UPON MEME

>>139471060
It all really goes back to communist sympathizer FDR.

If not for America's support of the Soviet Union and, through them the Maoist revolutionaries, we wouldn't have had to face any of this. FDR kept them alive and made it possible for them to get nuclear weapon technology.

>>139477546
We wouldn't even have to go to war with them. Their allies would look the other way while the US would (along with some of the international community) basically go in and defang them of their military capabilities.

If they decided not to lie down and take it, then they'd have Tomahawks raining down upon them.

Liberal here.

Glass the norks.

>>139478181
"All options are on the table"covers that.

How dare Trump says that he consider every option open to him? Why don't he tell Kim that he will not use the nuke or something, surely that is how a real stratege operates!

>>139478181
It's not a meme.
You look better that way.
>"Oh, look at USA, starting yet a war"

>>139467704
what's wrong with all options being on the table?

America has the tech to shoot down Kim's missiles. North Korea can't do the same, so to keep Trump is keeping peace, waiting for the right moment to nuke NK

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>>139472840
>tfw no NK qt

>>139469026
A good portion of the country are communist faggots and effectively traitors. If Trump went to war it would be the 60s all over again.

>>139467704
the only reason that there is any problem with Best Korea is because there isn't a central bank owned by jews there.

>any country without a jew central bank must be invaded by the shekel hungry jews

AAAAHHH THE WORLD IS GOING TO END BECAUSE TRUMP SAID A WORD

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The only rational solution on NK is to overthrow Kim and install a Pupet dictator there.

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>>139478540
>give plastic surgery to some of your female soldiers
>put them at front and film them
>????
>profit
this is the average gook before plastic surgery

>>139467704
inb4 rod of god

>>139467704
Nothing will happen, like it always does. Even if Japan was to be nuked tomorrow, the US would still back down. China would get involved no matter who starts the war and Russia would follow soon after.

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>>139474799
>tech for reliable airburst
>literally a pressure sensor
>on my iphone 4 years ago

>>139467704
Shut the fuck up you German cuck, your country has effectively destroyed itself as of today. Nothing any German ever says on this board will ever be taken seriously again.

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>>139471739
This is just it. I can't take any of the criticism seriously because they will move the goalposts just so they can bitch. Anything president Trump does will be painted as a wrong move.

>>139478282
*Death cult Satan worshiper.

>>139478800
>Implying Kim would dedicate ICBM funds to plastic surgery.

Also wtf you talking about profit?

Did any other anons think of this movie when Trump gave his "fire and fury" speech. I'm sure he must have been watching it the night before. Maybe he wanted to sound like a righteous toughguy too.

https://youtu.be/P0ZvgRJz6Bo

>>139467704
>I'm gonna nuke you
>just kidding
>I'm gonna nuke you
>just kidding
>I'm gonna nuke you
>just kidding

>>139468322
Go ahead I hope Trump nukes NK.

Face it kiddies, Trump--as ever President for the last 30+ years--is China's cuck. Until China wants Chubby out of power, the US will do dick and all to remove him. China has the US political establishment by its transgender her/she nuts.

>>139472972
>NATIONALISTIC GOOKS
They aren't nationalist...its a fucking cult. They worship the Kim's literally in place of the Trinity.

People make too much fuss over these tests, as if the point is to make threats rather than to test the technology. Due to the location of North Korea, they pretty much have to launch over Japan.

North Korea wants security. Security in the modern age means deterrence, which means nuclear-tipped ICBMs. A credible deterrent needs to be tested and proven.

We believe they have nukes. We're not sure about the missiles. They're not sure about the missiles. You have to try these things out to see whether they work.

I don't believe NK will be disarmed, or that a war will happen. Rather, NK will make itself more secure. When it's more secure, it will become a better place to live. Slowly but surely, they'll go the route of China.

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>>139478913
nigga in the statment released when they where saying they gonna nuke guam they stated their misiles are not precise and can miss for around 10km
if they cant even know where its gonna hit why waste it on an airburst if you can do dmg for sure with an surface det.

>>139479071
its for propaganda
to sell how there is how bitches in NK
and to make the country look good. if you average female looks like this you gotta improve how the nation is viewed

>>139479052
*Nods in approval*

>>139476889
t. 54% White

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>>139479561
here for your reaction folder

>>139468515
Not my capital not my problem. Their fault for not cleaning up the mess earlier.

>>139471979
>just read about all the good aerial bombardment did in ww2 against the japanise islands, nothing short of a nuke

We do have deep penetrating bunker busters now. We could cruise missle NK to dust in a few hours. Thats why china keeps kamikaze attacking our navy with their cargo boats.

>>139479426
If you weren't a Merkel Sheeple you would understand basic geometry and realize thay an airburst actually increases the chance of damaging a target.

Trump doesn't dare to attack NK.

He's been fucking ridiculous.

>>139469026
No one knows what escalation can happen with a Korean war.
Sk is tiny but an important player in tech markets. It's a valuable asset that can be effectively wiped or severely damaged by nk on open stages of war.
You can't really find a way to start a war in nk that will not drag us to a very complicated position with heavy casualities on a land incursion.

Us is waiting China to agree with a military action or waiting for a move from nk that do real damage to have inquestionalble casus belli.

On the other side I don't know what is nk game. They usually play on the threat side to ask for gibs. Now with nuclear they are doubling their bet, but they are very conciencius that any action will nukes or conventional weapons will lead to the razing of pyongang and death of Kim. He is a psyco but not dumb. Unless of course he know comes to believe he is a real god and believes he can survive the war, in this case they are preparing stockpiling weapons.

Yo shut the fuck up don't even give him attention
he can't do shit

>>139479834
i know that airburst increases the dmg to buildings you retarded nigger
but if it detonates over the sea. there is no building to demolish and radiation dispates in the air with very small to non fallout
sea surface burst at least ensures fallout dmg

>>139471536
Nk would be under sk administration it would surely make things easier.
The problem is sk would probably hate us due to the probsbly heavy damage that sk should get o war.

I don't think any rational human-being wants a war just for the sake of having a war. However, NK is only going to be emboldened by Trump's lack of commitment to spank them for an open act of aggression against a US ally and protectorate.

Certainly not nukes--at least for now---but a couple of cruise missiles into their launch or nuclear production facilities. A surgical hit that cripples, at least in theory, their nuclear development possibilities

>>139471886
The U.S. is only a paper tiger because we can't fight like we use to aka just bomb and kill everything. We have to fight people who now blend in with the locals and we can't hurt the locals.

>>139480231
Globalists
Sociopaths

>>139479910

Kim wants to threat US into a secret negotiation to cuck China, I guess.

>>139471031
Whatever floats your boat m9

>>139475295
>Kekistan flag
>Didn't care about BLACKED.com

Pottery

>>139469026

Well we have a functioning anti cruise missle defence platforms so were good goyim. Are you prepared to the new age of war ? Kek. Apocalypse now bitches.

>>139467704
This is exciting, finally what appears to be an actual impending happening

>>139480514
That is actually a interesting question: Is Kim straining against his Chinese leash and putting China int he position of either having to smack his nose themselves or deal wi the US doing it?

It's entirely possible that NK leadership is just in full on "Fuck all you all!" mode and trying to break free of Chinese and US control.

- Show China they're not the boss of Chubby and his military by launching ICBMS
- Same time shows the US that they're a valid threat to be taken seriously.

>>139480195
you are retarded

>>139480514
Nk is a very poor state with actual famine areas. All scarce resources goes to the government that uses it on military and to fund luxury for the party leaders.
Time over time nk demands gibs, they don't have meaningful production and are basically over isolationist due to fears it could break the regime. I'm ta basically the end form if communism, turbo communism, when you see it can't sustain itself and need money and resources.

>>139470036
I agree. Jews just want another bank in NK.

>>139480968
You'll never see NK turn into a stable, successful democracy or republic. The only way to deal with NK's issues is nation building by the western world and China and Russia will never let that happen. NK is going to end up a crater before it end's up a burgeoning democracy.

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>>139471969
Give me a scenario where the use of force don't end anime forever.

Pic related. Dots are nuclear power plants.

>>139481210
>You'll never see NK turn into a stable, successful democracy or republic.

this wouldn't have anything to do with (((sanctions))) now would it?

>>139481557
China and Russia would never allow for it.

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>>139474799
>BLACKED

Is this bait you nazi scum ?

>>139472972
>using memes to shill for our enemies
Literal Jew. I don't think that post was ironic, either.

>>139481210
Yes I find this hard to happen since nk exists as a buffer between a commie cronie capitalism and sk.
What I think the chinks fear more than capitalism is the freedom from totalitarianism. Having a free state nearby is always a source of problem.

>>139481666
why?

>>139476541
le funny tab

>>139481798
>Having a free state nearby is always a source of problem.

(((free)))

>>139482005
They need NK as a buffer as well as the encroachment of Western and Japanese interests onto their Turf.

>>139481210
>The only way to deal with NK's issues is nation building

(((nation building)))

>>139482217
why does democracy imply encroachment of western and japanese interests?

>>139470036
>If a missile flies over Japan and they knew it came from NK they would have shot it down.
Why shot it down? The U.S. military is just waiting for a North Korean attack against S.K. Japan or Guam. That would give the U.S. military the justification to invade N.K., regime change Kim, and build military bases at China doorstep.

>>139481719
>he does not know about the bait tabs meme
newfag

>>139478540
I wonder if Norkish girls wax their asses.

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>>139467704
>How many fucking times does Kim have to prove he will not give in before this dumbass reacts accordingly instead of once again telling the world that all options are on the table!?

Kim actually gave in to Trump once already, over his "I'll attack Guna (GUAM, ffs!) horse shit ultimatum.

The thing you have to understand about Kim is that, for now, he does not have the capability to carry out his threats. He's all hat and no caowboy. So pushed to the edge, he has no choice but to back down.

Obviously, if he's as insane as he seems to be, that strategy becomes less effective as his capabilities increase.

At the momenthe has a nuclear bomb. He has missiles that cannot carry that bomb, with a range shorter than he needs to attack the US in any meaningful way. He does not have re-entry technology to allow the bomb to survive its descent to a target, even if he gets a bomb that will ride on a missile and a missile that will reliably reach enough of the US to make an attack plausible. He does not have guidance technology that will get his missile on target, if he overcomes the previous obstacles.

Someday, he'll overcome all of that, at which point his threats will have something behind them.

Until then, he is a troll -- and a troll who has come up against another troll willing to call his bluff.

>>139467704
the truth is murica is scared because kim is fatter than the average burger.
huehuehueheuehuehue

>>139467704
>IS TRUMP FUCKING RETARDED?
What kind of queerstion is that?

>>139467704
>give half of Japan a heart attack
>expecting people not to intervene
bist du ein retard mein freund

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>>139470657

>>139482437
change your flag cuck

If there is a moment to reveal and unleash black project ayy lmao fuckery to prove undisputable superiority without firing a shot, it would be now.

>>139471049
>bear will leave his cave forever

>>139470735
>Unless China is willing to cut off all trade and starve the regime into submission there is no getting around that possibility.

So there is still an opportunity to convince China that a nuclear and insane NK on their border is not in their own best interests.

I guess all those SKans aren't dead yet, then, maybe putting off the attack while China still has a chance to shut them down is a good strategy after all.

>>139469026
We don't feel like getting into a war with China. The international community would end up supporting us because of NATO treaties, and even Russia has no reason to support China in that endeavor, especially with the new US administration being much more friendly towards Russia.

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>>139482817
Bike Cat got this.

(Newfags don't know bout my Bike Cat)

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meh

>>139475295
u have bin exposedd

Is Anzu going to be ok?

>>139470735
Even if China did cut off trade NK would still probably nuke Seoul.

>>139482121
Sk is a bot society but it has much more freedom than China.

Just fucking nuke them already. Nuke em and walk away.
No rebuilding
No humanitarian aid
No NGOs
Just leave it as a death zone

>>139480876
>- Show China they're not the boss of Chubby and his military by launching ICBMS
>- Same time shows the US that they're a valid threat to be taken seriously.

If they launched what they can currently muster, it would show exactly the opposite of your second point. They don't have a deployable ICBM weapons system yet.

>>139482998
i assume that's what trump is trying to convince them of. But we can't wait forever if it isn't going to happen. He's given them several chances.

>>139467704
Nuke korea and then China

>they are so dug into the mountains that even the US blasting them to kingdom come wouldn't KO them, there would be years of brutal combat

I doubt it. I don't think North Koreans buy into the government propaganda as much as they maybe once did. Good chance they'd surrender/abandon if the USA attacked and took out Kim

>>139483372
so does russia

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>>139471576
Slavs roll +10 to endurance when they are born when everyone else rolls +1.

>>139468125
What to do though. If we attack first SK will be a smoldering crater. It is a no win situation.

if there is a war between the NorKs and the USA we will undoubtedly find their nazi style labor camps and death camps. so what we need to do is send a message to his generals. "take out Kim and let us integrate your government into the SK government and we wont put you on trial for crimes against humanity"

this seems like an easy solution to me unless Kims generals are just as brainwashed as the rest of the populace.