Trad Wife Supremacy

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get a church girl. aka a girl that's 30, fucked 100 men, and then got a midlife crisis so they found "god" and are now "conservative". at least until they divorce you and turn your son into a transgender

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>>139441312

you'll find potential tradwifes in about the 29-32 range after they start to hit the wall and realize they need a new strategy to hide their slutty past and to lure in themselves a beta provider, i mean, whoops, a TOTALLY ALPHA TRADITIONAL MALE.

>>139441504
>>139441908

Solution: don't marry 30 yo women then dumfuk

19-24 years old is the optimal age for marriage. Anything else is degenerate. Disregard any "mommy gf" fetish you might have

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I'm about to go out with a qt tomorrow but I fucking forgot her name.

>>139442380
It started with an H?

Go meet women at places where sluts wouldn't set foot

>>139442342

you can take the girl away from the cock carousel but you can't take the cock carousel away from the girl, anon

enjoy your 7 year itch (more like 2), divorce rape, and cheating.

you're not getting the point. marriage is like picking up a revolver with 4 in the chamber and pulling the trigger. it ruins people's lives.

Why are you still looking to marry? Retard.

IF you want children or a life partner, you realize that you don't have to get actually married?

If she's a type of a gal who wouldn't go at it without you getting married - she's the type you wouldn't want to marry in the first place.

>>139442452
Nope, I have no fucking clue.

>>139443036
Dude you are only financially capable of taking care of a kid if you are married, bills will ruin your life m8.

>>139443129

Why? If the woman isn't working, let her homeschool the kid - don't buy the kid any phones/distraction devices, proper food and clothing isn't that expensive.

>>139441312
Traditional wife material was raised from birth to have traditional values and grew up in a community that gave her no other choice. It's un-natural, and can only come by way of patriarchy. Regular liberated women are as evil shit as we say they are.

>>139443425
hospital bills, house bill, car bill, phone bill, insurance, it goes on and on dude

>>139442509
The only place I can think of is the church
And I have no idea how to meet women at the church

If a girl still has her sense of "being dominated by a a male" intact, she has potential even if she is totally indoctrinated with all the JEW shit because such a girl will follow her boy ideologically. Yes, the upbringing has lot's of influence but you should remember that this is the age of JEW nihilism, hedonism and egalitarianism, most girls out there are influenced by it one way or the other.

>>139443794

I may be missing something here, but I assume a frugal lifestyle as normality for anyone who's aware of thing.

However, this lifestyle is only for a minority of women.

Mormon women, simple as that.

>>139444152
You can't live in an apartment with a child, you'll need a mortgage. You'll need to feed three people.
You'll need to buy diapers and tampons. You'll need to pay health and car insurance, you'll need to pay your electric/water/gas/trash bill, you'll need to buy fuel for your car.
Dude, the tax cuts from marriage are the only way you can afford this unless you're wealthy, and even then common law marriage could set you up to get fucked anyway.

>>139444608

Understood. I do not support cohabitation, but if I were to do it - I'd buy/build a house in the middle of nowhere and attempt to avoid all that bureaucracy.

>>139443921
>And I have no idea how to meet women at the church

Small groups. If men are hardworking and god-fearing, a good small group can open up the christian dating network. All married Christian women want their single friends to get married too.

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I start by looking at Asians, and then I find a Christian one. White women are all trash.

>>139444604
>Mormon women
If you aren't a return missionary, they won't even consider it unless they're degenerate.

>>139442380
talk about your name and she'll talk about hers

>>139445870
Asian Christians are so clueless and retarded that only an American "Christian" could like them.
Asians and Americans have that in common. They created bullshit churches out of nowhere and they are all fucking dog shit blasphemy misleading people into being turbo cucks.

I have great respect for classic Christianity and historical Christian sites but when im back in the US I know everyone here is a clueless shit eating moron attending cuck service.

You can hardly call American and Asian churches a church at all. They are basically just cults.

>>139446861
So much this.
Visited Hawaii a decade ago because of family deaths, one Buddhist and one protestant Christian.
Both services were so fucking culty. Although I may have been a bit of a cringey atheist, I tried keeping an open mind for the Buddhist part, but it was literally just another American cult that's obsessed with the powers of prayer.
And that's when I truly understood what kind of stupid fucking cattle Americans are.

>>139441312
Don't get married. It's the most beta thing you can do. As a an it's your duty to fertilizer the herd. That means unprotected sex with as many frisky women as you can find. Most married men are miserable and look way older they are. Women will literally suck the life out of you. When she starts talking relationship it's time to skip town son.

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>tfw no qt3.14159265354 tradwaifu to have children with

>>139441504
>>139441908
>>139442803
Virgins detected. Sorry boys, you are beyond help, but I think you know this. Might as well just kill yourselves.

As for OP, the simple fact is that most women will adopt the views of their man. If you're confident, assertive and attractive they'll believe whatever you tell them. It helps to get them out of high school so they aren't poisoned by university and have, hopefully, retained some innocence throughout education so far.

>>139441312
Don't treat women as your equals, then probably most of them will do, you just have to make them.

>>139448995
>clueless tradcuck
>not a virgin

>>139450897
>if i put cuck at the end of anything better than me i will win this argument
Virgin morality at its finest

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>>139448995
>just man up and marry these sluts
>calls other people virgins

>>139453469
>"no woman has ever touched me so they are all sluts"
>not a bitter resentful virgin

>>139453552
If you need to believe that all MGTOWs are virgins, then go ahead, but it's still not going to fix the problem you have: your movement is reliant on shaming men into doing something against their best interest when the most optimal decision (and the path of least resistance) is to do nothing and not get married.

You need to convince MGTOW to "man up" and wife those sluts more than MGTOW need to convince tradcucks of the merits of a stress-free and enjoyable single lifestyle.

You're in a poor bargaining position and you know it.

>>139453732
>If you need to believe that all MGTOWs are virgins
Why would I "need" to believe something that is fundamentally true? I literally advised toward conditioning women as young as they are within the age of consent as to avoid involvement with the defiled and yet in your warped sex-starved mind they are still 'sluts.'

Women who, clearly you resent due to a lack of attention paid to you, are sluts. I'd think a pathetic fucktard like you should love sluts because if they are so loose and easy they should be willing to fuck a cringy chode like you.

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is this a good grill?

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>>139453927
Lol if you think women are still "innocent" when they graduate high school, it's you who is the naive out-of-touch virgin cuck, not me

Enjoy those sloppy 100ths from the born-again virgin girl. LOL

>>139454103
It's amazing how in your logic every girl has fucked 100 men by 18 yet not a single one has fucked you.

It's no wonder you are so bitter.

>>139454386
>you're only MGTOW because you're a butthurt virgin!
so typical

you're so powerless and incapable of changing the incentive structure in order to encourage young men to commit to long term relationships so you attempt to browbeat men with shame-based hyperemotional tactics like a woman.

pretty funny and predictable

>>139453552
MGTOW for the past year here, and I've had sex with about 70 women.

>139453469
nice image

>>139454626
Nobody who's even so much as held hands with a girl would associate with such a faggy term as MGTOW.

You prove my point by your unrealistic proclamation that every woman has "fucked 100 men by 18"

>>139454723
>Nobody who's even so much as held hands with a girl would associate with such a faggy term as MGTOW.
keep telling yourself that roastie

>>139453989
>poses for "photographers"
she's a slut obv.
like 80% of photographers are rich old fatsoes who are in it for the pussy

>>139441312
>wife
>getting married
>in a year after 1968

Pffffff

>>139454776
Chads do not associate to MGTOW and discard women daily. This is a fact. Your movement is composed of hopeless Chris-Chan tier virgins.

>>139453927
You guys and your "women" problems. Look in the mirror. Get rid of porn and force prostitution back into a trailer park in Nevada. You guys are half the problem.

>>139441312

MGTOW until feminism is eradicated from society

until then you are just feeding the kike kulture machine

>b-but muh red pilled girlfriend

she is telling her friends how silly you are and if she isn't fucking a side dick she will be soon, sorry thats just progressive hebrew values

>>139454886
>Chads discard women daily
So your point is that Chad doesn't go for long term relationships either?

Really convincing me to settle down with a good Christian "virgin" girl here chief.

Enjoy being BETA BUCKS chump

>>139454906
Are you responding to the right anon?
I'm simply giving realistic advice on female psychology.

No hymen, no diamond. Literally the only rational answer. I realize this is anecdotal but of all the people I have ever known the two guys who married virgins are the only ones who have never been divorced. One guy married HS sweetheart. They both agreed to wait. Other guy married 20 yo virgin. He was 32 at the time.

>>139454981
Chad can, sometimes does, because unlike you he completes the primary pre-requisite of actually holding a females attention.

>>139455050
But anon, according to MGTOW in this thread every woman has fucked 100+ guys by 18. One of you must be lying.

>>139455118
You're the type of guy to pay sticker price for a car Chad test drove hundreds of times for free lmao.

>>139455158
I have no other way of assuring you or any other anons other than saying that I trust these guys on their word. The HS sweethearts were from a small community. Very religious Southern Baptist.

>>139442509
Rather die

Man the cucks come out at night

>>139455182
?
I am with the same woman I was with since I was 16, her 15. 28 now. Next you're going to say that every woman has fucked at least 50 men by 16 in a desperate bid to spare yourself the embarrassment that inherently comes with association with something like MGTOW.

You cannot simultaneously be an alpha, non-virgin, and also be MGTOW.

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>>139441312
Artificial wombs and sexbots are superior to any tradwife.

>>139454781
"if she breaths she's a thot"

>>139455333
>I would rather die than touch a woman
Is this how you reconcile being a virgin?

>>139455369
So you've only been with woman your entire life but you think you know more than other men what the dating scene is like these days?

looooool

>>139455027
Probably not.

>>139455494
I said I've held on to one woman, not that I've only been with one woman. There is a distinct difference.

Sexual fidelity is more important coming from a woman than from a man. Nice try, though, virgin.

>>139455423
not really but amateur and semi-professional photography is thinly veiled prostitution
not saying they ALL get to fuck their models but that's what they're there for

>>139455578
>I said I've held on to one woman, not that I've only been with one woman.
yeah right you posturing beta

>>139455302
>>139455158
>>139455050
tHE LITERAL TRUTH, PAIR-BONDING IS REAL

>>139443129
the bills thing is bullshit
you have to pay rent anyways
chances are your first child with sleep in same room as you for first three years
clothing is almost free
kids dont eat much (teenagers do)

little kids are easy to take care of, they sleep 12 hours a day to start with, a playing with them is too easy, any toy will do ... doesnt even matter, a cardboard box can be hours of entertainment

Im serious,,, I was so worried about oney for my first child .... not even an issue, they are also hilarious, kids do the funniest stuff, and it really is fulfilling in many ways, its really cool hagning out with someone and teaching them to talk and walk and knowing that a little part of you helped to create them

kids are awesome, dont miss out on one of lifes greatest joys

also, you guys worried about "losing it all" yeah it can happen, but its not as likely as you think, and you cant take it with you anyways

what are you saving up to be .... jewish?

you cant take it with you dude, money comes, money goes, dont miss out on life cause "muh shekels"

be careful about the girl you pick, and be serious about building a family

>>139455611
>MGTOW
>Calls others Betas
I just realized something, you'll never see the face of anyone who associates as MGTOW because even they know they are too hilariously pathetic and embarrassing to really stand by this little support group in public.

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>>139441312
They are the ones without dicks stuffed in their mouths.

>>139455158
Bashing what was clearly a hyperbole that satirizes what is a modern relationship problem (extreme female promiscuity) instead of presenting facts to refute his argument just makes you look just as bad.

There IS unchecked female promiscuity, and this IS a problem to the survival of mankind. In no other species are beings so repulsed by the actions of the opposite gender.

>>139455776
You've only been with one (1) woman, that's textbook beta male

you're probably a little subservient whipped cuckboy soymale who ditches your friends to go shopping at bed bath and beyond with your woman

i know your type

>>139455692
I married a virgin. Happy succesful life so far, with kids. Shes not beuatiful in model sense, but shes in good shape, does 20 minute workout thing, shes slim. Very smart girl, speaks five languages, works as a nurse.

I went for qualities I knew would not fade in time, big boobs and pretty faces get old, honour, smarts, work ethic ...they last a lifetime

>>139455801
>no stds
>no nigger dick
dildos are redpilled

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>>139455888
You should read my first post itt.
I don't even feel bad that people who associate as "MGTOW" will never breed, regardless of Western sexual leniency and the issues it brings.

>>139441312
women with tattoos and nose rings are a sure way to find a nice traditional woman

>>139456030

Im fine with women having sex toys for masturbation. Im not fine with women who use men as sex toys for self-validation.

>>139455182
Stop thinking "Chad" is a role model for starters. Chad ends up dead from alcoholism or AIDS before 50.

>>139456135

>Yet live a thousand more lifetimes than a literally who that spends his life avoiding risk and playing it safe.

>>139456135
It doesn't matter what your feelings about the archetypical "Chad" are, the point is if you pay for something that Chad got for free you are a fucking chump, end of story. Marriage is a transaction/contract and if you go into it blind you are asking to get hosed.

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>>139455975
You associate with "MGTOW" and have been with (0) women. You have a bitter resentfulness toward all females due to a lack of affection throughout your teen years and throughout your 20's. You are so disillusioned about sex you make ridiculous statements like, "Every 18 year old female has fucked 100 men by 18." I know your type.

>>139456135
yeah but they were 50 years full of primo puntang

>>139456261
lol you are both right about each other. you should date.

>>139456005
Exactly. Get to know someone before you have sex, for starters. These guys who marry someone they met at a rave to weeks ago and then wonder 6 months later how they ended up married to a bipolar psychopath crack me up.

>>139455458

Yeah. (inb4 blah blah "so you admit it" gohan) But I actually oiled and fucked your mother last night. That fucking whore was on all fours crawling on my massage table. $100 table, $100 slut. TCM

>>139456222
>I hate men who have meaningless sex
>I also hate men who have committed relationships
>MEN GO THEIR OWN ANUSES
>I'm totally not a virgin guys

>>139442380
Take her to starbucks

is it really all ''chad vs loser'' in america?
Here we just have normal people, no losers nor chads. Atleast in non retarded social circles

>>139456313
Damn, at least she's making her money. Your whore of a mother gave it to Tyrone for free and he didn't even call her the morning after. She got literally nothing out of that transaction except a failure mulatto for a son like you.

>>139456264
In my 35 years as a doctor I have seen "Chad" die over a hundred times. It ain't pretty. Vomiting blood alone and no one cares.

>>139453552
Not a virgin. Women are toxic as can be in modern society, so stop acting like they aren't. Never mind myself, why would I ever bring life in to this world to deal with that kind of poison for a mother? No thanks. Men aren't the problem, it's ain't shit excuses for motherhood.

>>139456261
Isn't this an ad hominem?

Let's say he is all the things you claim.

He might as well be right about everything, you didn't prove him wrong

>>139456438
"Chad" is a blanket term for anyone who isn't a hopeless loser in our hemisphere, typically used only among anonymous posters that associate to things like MGTOW.

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These guys all fuck bitches. Learn from them.

>>139441312
If she can't read then it's pretty trad

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>>139456354
I don't hate Chad, I used to go drinking with Chads and they'd tell me stories about they banged your virginal waifu while you were out at your 9-5 office jockey fag soymale job slaving away for Mr. Shekelstein being some beta provider chump.

Enjoy your servitude, I'll enjoy freedom. Marriage is for chumps.

>>139456474
This is why I advise you to date them young as is legal and force them to have the right opinions. This is very troubling and triggering for some people itt because the very prospect of dating itself incites jealousy among them.
>>139456494
>He may as well be right that every woman has fucked 100 men by 18
>Its unrealistic to assume he has never talked to a woman tho, ad hominem bro

>>139456597
>Having sex is for fags
Whatever makes you feel better.

>>139456455

Sick 2013 memes redditor. I guess 4:30 AM is when the R_D cucks come out of their comfort zones.

My advice to you? Close this tab. Clear your history. Look at some anime before bed. And never come back to this site.

>>139456719
>you need to be a beta provider to have sex
this is what eunuch cucks ACTUALLY BELIEVE

>>139456762
Nobody who associates to MGTOW has ever had sex.

>>139456535
ah i understand, having a normal life is called ''chad'' by these losers

>>139456672
>He may as well be right that every woman has fucked 100 men by 18

Maybe it was an hyperbole. If you attack his person instead of the argument you are not proving him wrong. And it doesn't matter if it's realistic because you:

1)Don't actually know him
2)It doesn't prove you right, it only makes you look like a fool with no arguments

>>139441312
By moving to China.

>>139456672
>>139456762

Why don't you both admit the strengths in the other's argument and have meaningful exchange?

I'm a 31 year old married guy with 2 kids, been married to the same girl i dated in middle school. Lost virginity to each other.

But i also know this is literal unicorn-isms for our current culture. Divorce-driven economy, society pushing women to be as loose and abusive as possible in every sense of the words, and "Finding" a traditional wife or being with one from borderline childhood onward is literally just hitting a proverbial jackpot.

Why can't you both admit the other is right? You're both right.

The optimal solve is to find a unicorn or condition and mature alongside a beautiful young woman you know from a young age.

But most people aren't going to get the optimal; i'd say it's not at all a 'bad' option to go MGTOW with the current political/social climate; you certainly aren't going to find 25+ something "Traditional qt virgins". They're scummy abusive cunts due to brainwashing and culture-war by that point, almost universally.

You two just want to fuckin argue', ya' twits.

>>139456827
>this is what domestically castrated eunuchs actually believe
I bet your wife uses sex as a """reward""" for household chores, lmao

>>139456841
The original premise lays with me, it would be his duty to prove me wrong that there are women who follow the opinions and will of men who know how to handle them.

He denies this, quite angrily, and for that I do taunt him; because he's done nothing but insult me from the gate for believing you -can- condition a woman.

>>139456470

Well a few moments of pain in exchange for a few decades of cucking loser retards and the lot seems worth it

>>139456949
There is no strength in his argument.
If you think there is as much merit to, >>139456960 as there is to >>139456969
then I don't know what to tell you. His posts are universally and entirely worthless. He is not somebody you want to take any sort of advice from.

>>139456597
Nowadays, I guess you're right. I have been married 45 years. Of course, we started 45 years ago. Things were different then. We started with nothing, she got an M.A., I got an M.D. And we built a life together. No one could come between us because we had invested far to much to let that happen. Maybe it can't be done today.

>>139456411
Unironically this.

put your finger up their butt. if they scream then suffocate them and try to hide their body very well!

>>139441312
Religious girl who's a virgin post college
Worked for me.

>>139456969
>it would be his duty to prove me wrong that there are women who follow the opinions and will of men who know how to handle them.

If you claimed this first, did you also prove it?

I believe you are mildly right(as in, it can happen, but it might as well not happen), but if you didn't prove it the burden of proof is on you(yeah, I didn't read everything)

>>139457037
I'm trying to get a residency this year. Interesting to see an experienced MD on the 4chin.

>>139456969
>dude just condition a woman against her friends, family, mass media, and the labyrinth of academia indoctrination, and the general cultural zeitgeist at large
good luck with that

>>139457037
It's not impossible, you just need to reach them before more corrupting influence does.
>>139457232
It is generally reasonable to believe there are a number of women who mold themselves to the outlook of their partner. I would wager a larger percentage of women are impressionable in this way than those who are not, and that even the least desirable feminist dykes can be swayed by a traditionally masculine man - but that's not entirely an important distinction in accepting that there are indeed at least some women who will follow as their told.

He simply flipped his shit over this insinuation because he has a deep seated resentment of any and all women.

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>>139456597

I look at my wife. Blonde Hair, Blue Eyes, best resting bitch face(the kind that actually wards people off) and wants 2 kids before she's 30. all her friends are married, no gay friends, 1 lesbian friend but she's anti-sjw.
Life is fucking good, they're out there lads, go fuckin get one.

>>139457803
wait until the first of her friends gets divorced

>>139457844
>>139457844
Maybe but her friends are semi-devout Christians, not muslim-spec devotees but the once a month we go to church because we know it keeps us anchored kind who still drink beer and get drunk a couple times a year.

>>139457381

I did it.

>>139457422

>It's not impossible, you just need to reach them before more corrupting influence does.
Due to the state of the MSM and the ruthlessness of the Marxist propaganda, what you are suggesting is currently synonymous with pedophilia. Girls sell out at 12-13 nowadays, there is no way a grown ass man can groom a small girl to become a wife, it is creepy.

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>>139442380
Get your next door neighbor to come over and say hi then she'll be forced to say her name
If that doesn't work, try "Mulva"

>>139441312

Women are extremely malleable and will conform to male opinions if the male is strong and desirable. Simply become desirable and then find a woman you can work with. Some key factors are: Wants kids, likes to cook, into making actual art/gardening, doesn't really mind housekeeping, wants to educate the kids herself, doesn't like big government.

They're not too hard to find, you can take an intelligent woman who is not a whore and educate her.

>>139457348
I feel sorry for you. The profession has gone to shit.

>>139442380
Offer to take her jacket and check the lapel to see if she wrote her name in it like an autist.

Find a young, ugly girl.

When they latch on to you, they'll do anything to keep you.

>>139457462
Fuck this makes me bitter. There is no hope.

>>139457803
2 kids isn't enough. You need at least 4.

>>139461606

Plenty of good women out there, stop looking in slutholes and whorehouses such as bars, parties, Tindr and such. It's really not that hard to get a hobby that doesn't involve destroying your body where you can meet women. Hell, get a dog and you'll meet women.

>>139461665
this

>>139442509
Wise man

>>139446148
I am returned missionary. Was passed over by many mormon girls.
They trade their purity for financial security.