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Anyone else surrendered yet? 2dadsTV threw up another inspiring video for us

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqeUhUemQKc
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I'm genuinely surprised the original got deleted. Clearly it was gaining too much traction, nearly 100k views when I saw it last.

I really hope you fucks support this guy so he can make more of these.
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>>139436378
I am too. It was barely offensive anyways.
And no one knows who made it, this 2dadsTV guy popped up out of nowhere. I suspect it might be another pseudonym for CyberNazi since it is his song in the video. I have no idea though.
I am wondering if the deletion of the original will bring Streisand Effect attention to it and potentilally millions of people seeing it. I don't know. All I fucking know, is that the original video was fucking /comfy/ as hell, and it's fucking ridiculous that it was taken down. For what? A swastika on a guy portrayed as a Chad and in a positive light? The fuck
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>>139436378
How do I support him? Patreon? Bitcoin?
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>>139436849
Swastika is enough to be taken down for hate speech. Stupid fucks you need to drop the 88 period.

Everything else would have been just kosher, but the swastika gave it the LITERAL NAZI angle.
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Why, (((Youtube)))?

Is it because you were tired of all the failure you had to endure with the Adpocalypse?
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>>139437564
Why am I surprised?

Jewtube always picks on channels it disagrees with.

bump
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>>139437174
I don't know anon, I am also wondering.

>>139437433
I agree. But it was pretty minor and you could say it was for humor or ironic or for shock value or whatever. I don't care for it really, and if the video can come back up sans the swastika, then that is pretty fucking pussy ass bullshit. Its probably because he throws the tranny fag back into the closet, and just the whole thing portraying chistianity and Chad Nationalism and nice things are the Alt-Right, and, we obviously know about Googles employees.. Aren't they in charge of censorship now?
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I am 2dadstv. We are on hatreon, bitcoin, and paypal. Links are in our video description. We are having troubles with Patreon.

Anything helps, goys.
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>>139438131
Well I stand corrected you can pay 2dads some shekels. Awesome video, what do you think about the original being taken down? It was /comfy/ af and inspired me to work harder in the gym.

Also show your geo flag we just need to check something to be sure
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>>139438552
we expected the original to go down
we had this next one ready as backup

new one coming soon goyim
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>>139437433
Should have used the original non-inverted version so he could say they're being intolerant of his Buddhist religion and gotten the ACLU to sue YouTube for him or something like that.
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>bluepill version
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>>139436378
It got over 200k views
the original got like 90k there is another that is still up with 65k and then there was edit without anything that could be offensive and that got a bunch and then there was a facebook upload that got 156k views.
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>>139438131
Repost video minus swastika
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>>139438967
nah that is gay and there was an upload without that and it got taken down a week before this one.
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>>139438131
Is the 2dadstv a reference to the youtube logo with dads?
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>>139439040
Oh well, giving up entirely is way better option I guess
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>>139438131
>>139439095
Yeah whats up with the name? I keked at it hard
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>>139438753
that version ends right after that scene.This is because in the next scene he gets stabbed to death and run over by Muslim "extremists"
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Daaaaaaamn. That was stronger than the original.
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>>139438949
had over 310k on Facebook before it got deleted
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We need more of these!
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>>139436178

I'm amazed it took that long to be taken down
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>>139439387
I thought this too. This version is ironically, more offensive. Bravo.

>>139438662
Good call. Would you eventually posted it anyways if the 1st one wasn't taken down? Maybe changed it just a little or something. I don't know, but this one does hit harder I think haha
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>>139438662
Please keep up the good work, it's beautiful art
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.>>139436178

Now you guys get it. Like saying something without saying it.
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>>139439544
checked and
>>139438662
>new one coming soon goyim
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>>139436178
>2dads
??????
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Fuck, that video makes me fear for the future. Chinks are right. Democracy is degenerated.
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>>139437433
>if you just simply cuck for the left they'll stop bothering you and everything will be fine

Yeah that worked out so well in the past.....
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>>139437174
>>139437902
They have a Hatreon (yes, that's the actual spelling), but i ain't posting the link for fear of pissy hot-pocket munchers. I guess you can just google 2dadstv hatreon or something.

Right now they have a grand total of ZERO donations and Patreons, lel.
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>>139436178
as far as I'm concerned these folks at 2dadsTV have executed this all perfectly.
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>>139436378
The fuck you mean, I literally just watched it like an hour ago. It wasnt deleted.
https://youtu.be/SABkcsOXZso
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think of the 9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 fuggazillion, you evil monsters
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>>139438131
Hatreon is better anyway
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>>139440387
check
>>139438131
So yeah we got the info. I am debating whether to donate a smaller amount now or a little bit more, but not until the 1st.
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>>139440419
Agreed. Some people need to back off and get their own propaganda short.
Sometimes there's a benefit to being edgy. Without the swastika, we never could have had pic related.
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>>139440514
>47 views
tippy toppy kek m8
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>>139440858
Plz tell me you have more of these triggerings.
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>>139440964
The point is, the original still exists, it may not be on 2dadstv, but other people are uploading it. Did anyone put it on buttchute or vidme yet?
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>>139440980
I wish. That's not even OC. Makes me pine for the old salt mines.
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>>139441121
https://vimeo.com/231232347

That is the link for the original now, posted in the description of bluepill surrender our future version. So yeah, its still around to see, but it has been taken down on youtube the most popular video viewing site, and censored on there.
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>>139437433
The 88 drags the 14.
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>>139441406
Faggot PR cucks drag the 14.
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>>139436178
Are you sure this is a leftist video? It's even more of a redpill than the original. What a warning.
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>>139441541
WOKE
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>>139436378
It's probably the reason they kicked off the recent censorship campaign.
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>>139441583
>when you can't hear the dog whistle
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>>139441583
hurr
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>>139436178
wtf this video blue pilled me, google if your reading this i'm cured now your censorship worked thank you my nu-male and dyke overlords.
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>>139438131

I know it sucks but honestly just remove the swastika and reupload the vid and it will probably be a lot safer than it was. Even if Jewtube deletes it again at least you'll have a lot more people be willing to defend and support you guys.
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>>139440858
This is great.
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>>139436178
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>>139441697
Now theres a thought. And they went after other videos like racial differences in IQ before coming after the "slickest new alt-right recruitment video" so as to hide their intent from the beginning, which was to scrub "slickest new...."
>I just wanted to play video games
>I just wanted to watch videos on youtube
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>>139441831
Someone uploaded an edited version with the swastika and Roman salute edited out but it got shoah'd first. You don't win by cucking
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>>139441831
for first, the non swastika version was deleted first, for second, the swastika is the entire point. without that its just bizarre homoerotica
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>>139441822
checked and tippy toppy keked
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>>139440858
so many jews, also 4chan memed aesthetics and fash-thetics. Ari Spect Mosbecher is a retard we control the memes of production.
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>>139436178
>Black children in pool not drowning

dropped
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>>139439786
2D Ads
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>>139442524
But they were.
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>>139436849
I thought it was pretty suspicious when I logged in to Youtube the other day and his video was at the top of the recommended videos list.
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>>139442524
>black children in pool not drowning
>yet

Besides anon you can't just go to the fucking very end of the video and then "dropped"
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>>139436178
>builds a church in the original version
i mean, yea sure, but remember to give money to israel
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>>139437433
Anon, we ARE literal Nazis. If you aren't one by now, neck yourself and get off my board alt-right cuck.
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I-I don't get it...
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>>139436378
>I'm genuinely surprised the original got deleted.
People need to step back and realize how insane this is.

Maybe everyone here is 12, or everyone is the frog sitting in the increasingly hot pot of water, but something as benign as that original video getting censored is fucking scary.

We are letting the marxists win without a fight.
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>>139443404
Hasn't google taken over censorship for youtube now? And we know how they are from James Damore and the "Alt-Right" memo. I agree with you by the way 100%. Its absurd that such a *mild* fucking video got taken down. Is it really THAT offensive to people? And even if it is, so what? Why can Special Victims Unit be on tv? Offends rape victims, and rapists.. So instead of just "don't watch it" , we NEED to take it off the air. Right? Its fucking absurd. The audacity...
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>>139443404
Sorry but that thing is in fact Bullshit. Not going to go into explanation because I know no one cares. But, this is just as much BS as you claim the jews produce to create a form of Zeitgeist. You're all just the same. Nazis were good at propaganda and lies.
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>>139437433
>>139438967
>>139441831
>just remove the swastika goy the normies will love you

The left has proven time and time again that if you give them an inch they'll take a mile.
Once the Far-Right starts to become centrist, the Centrist start to become Leftist and whole damn Overton window shifts left.

We ARE the right.
We ARE the Nazis.
If we don't push the Overton window who will?
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HERE'S A MIRROR OF THE ORIGINAL

DOWNLOAD AND SAVE IT

KEEP SPREADING IT AND KEEP PUTTING IT ON JEWTUBE

https://vid.me/aV2I6

https://vid.me/aV2I6

https://vid.me/aV2I6

https://vid.me/aV2I6

WE CAN'T KEEP LETTING THEM ENCROACH ON EXPRESSION
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>>139444000
Nazis are silly.
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>>139440037
>>139443744

Even fucking Andrew Anglin says people should drop the nazi symbology when trying to present the alt-right to the general populace.

And no, Nazis do not own white nationalism. Nazis weren't even white nationalist. Stop repeating left-wing narratives you dishonest fucks.
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>>139438662
>new one

I can't wait
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>>139438131
How do you get a hatreon invite code? I want to support you
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>>139444162
Finland? What VPN are you using?
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>>139436849
They are a pair of animators who just showed up on TRS out of nowhere.
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>>139443648
the problem is it's normalized that such a mild video gets censored, there's 1000's more immigrant videos that are going to be next

HERE'S A MIRROR OF THE ORIGINAL

DOWNLOAD AND SAVE IT

KEEP SPREADING IT AND KEEP PUTTING IT ON JEWTUBE

https://vid.me/aV2I6

https://vid.me/aV2I6

https://vid.me/aV2I6

https://vid.me/aV2I6

WE CAN'T KEEP LETTING THEM ENCROACH ON EXPRESSION
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>>139444162
In terms of being out in public. He uses it all the fucking time on his site. Make your own propaganda. Different things work for different groups - this works for the target audience of disaffected young men and boys who aren't going to recoil in horror at the site of a hooked cross
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>>139440858
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>>139444162
>Andrew Anglin

Oh well that does it I guess we should all take orders from our new Fuhrer Andrew fucking Anglin because he sounded like such an enlightened knowledgeable guy that one time I heard him on the Daily Shoah.

We are Nazis and we are white nationalists, I don't care what you say this board has looked up to uncle Adolf for a long time.
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>>139444337
How do I download it from there?
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>>139438662
not if I shut it down!!
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>>139443011
You're trying too hard.
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>>139444428

You can't be Nazi and white nationalist at the same time. Hitler saw Poles as inferior people for example.
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>>139443744
This isn't 1933 Germany you larping retard.
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>>139438131
Make t-shirts my dude

Will unironically buy one
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>>139444428
>displaying the trappings of a defeated system from 80 years ago is a persuasive way to promote the interests of white people
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>>139438662
HOW SOON?
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I didn't even know this music video was a big deal, I watched it and thought "bretty gud" and that was it. I guess even that has to be blown to oblivion the second it got popular. It's a big success however in the sense it's not angry Hitler screeching but instead shows the optimism of chad nationalism, and that is what fashwave is all about. I'm happy seeing it spread.
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>>139444356
I agree and have seen that argument before about the original vid with the swastika. The target audience of the video, will just have a hearty kek at it, and not be bothered, and its really not a big deal. But, of course, masochistic leftist trannies and commies and PC police watch it and freak out. And Google swoops in to censor youtube and the "slickest Alt-Right recruitment video" gets the axe.

Censoring a video for such mild, and for such bullshit petty reasons is bullshit. They have race-mixing ads and pro-tranny shit on tv all the time now, but something that a different target audience would and did enjoy, gets taken off youtube. That you have to click on to watch. Not just forced onto you during commercials or placed into your favorite shows. Fuck this bullshit
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>>139444459
use

http://www.tubeoffline.com/download-VIDme-videos.php

which will give

https://d1wst0behutosd.cloudfront.net/videos/17075418/59696922-video-avc1-1.mp4
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>>139444741
>>139444681
yeah lets drop the fleur de lys too since napoleon used it once. is it possible to be bigger faggots than you?
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>>139444906
>https://d1wst0behutosd.cloudfront.net/videos/17075418/59696922-video-avc1-1.mp4
it already expired, just copy and paste

https://vid.me/aV2I6

into

http://www.tubeoffline.com/download-VIDme-videos.php

and it will give a fresh link
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>>139443404
What can a simple meme farmer like myself do about YouTube? All we can do is stop using YouTube
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>>139443698
How is it false? Please explain Rabbi, help a dumb Goy out, it'd be a Mitzvah.
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Why is the Take Back Our Future video so homoerotic?
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>>139436178
wtf I love civic nationalism now
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>>139445008
Got it already thanks anon. Mp4
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>>139445012
Keep using youtube and fighting (raising a stink about censorship) as it's normie central, meanwhile archive everything and use other services like vidme etc. until they get more popular

maybe when posting jewtube link also provide a vidme mirror to sterr people that way

btw to anyone else, is vidme the best alternative right now? the mocked jewtubes censorship during the election

https://www.mediaite.com/opinion/vidme-releases-pro-freedom-ad-mocking-youtube-censorship/
>“Vidme doesn’t censor content for bad language or controversial subject matter,” reads the ad’s description. “We like weird.”
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>>139445289
Archived that for you https://unvis.it/mediaite.com/opinion/vidme-releases-pro-freedom-ad-mocking-youtube-censorship
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>>139445012
Google is in charge of youtube right? We could ALL start doing that false ad-clicking thing I have seen around here a few times. And stop using youtube. Thats all I can think of as well.
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>>139445289
>sterr
steer
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>>139445229
Cause you gay, nigga.
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>>139436178
Can anyone summarize for a phonefag?
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>>139445379
>And stop using youtube. Thats all I can think of as well.
but we can't just abandon jewtube normies to the commies, that's exactly what they want

we need to transition and take people with us
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Sorry, but the swastika has got to go. I think Hitler did some awesome things but the movement will go nowhere with the Nazi's baggage.

You can still show the truth and trigger normies/leftists/Jews without Nazi imagery. It was done many times in the original video for god's sake.
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>>139436178
This is a great video.

Plus love me that vaperwave and old style stuff.

"they" know that videos and information can redpill more normies, its why they try to censor and shut people down
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcMeoRwC1z8
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>>139444662
>Hitler saw Poles as inferior people for example.
Yes.
Good goy.
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>Finally, a video that appeals to the Civic Nationalist in all of us.
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>>139445519
commies censored this video from jewtube
https://vid.me/aV2I6
not for content but for how well done/effective it was

straight-up 1984
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>>139445217
You're right I can't. Welcome me?
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>>139445519
The swastika on the blonde Chad's chest is now a heart. Its a bluepill in his eye instead of a redpill. Every time it shows something "bad" it instead shows other youtube videos over the top of it. It does a few things in revererse and in different colors, and it overall comes across really strong, and makes the left look pretty fucking stupid.

100% hit "watch for later" on youtube on your phone and watch it when you get home.
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>>139439040
Do you have a backup channel on another platform? I didn't save the original.
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>>139445678
You need to lurk more newfag. You're not welcome until you contribute positively, so far you're 3-0.
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>>139438662
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>>139445578
>the swastika has got to go. I think Hitler did some awesome things but the movement will go nowhere with the Nazi's baggage.
>You can still show the truth and trigger normies/leftists/Jews without Nazi imagery. It was done many times in the original video for god's sake.
i don't disagree with the gist of what you're saying, but that's not the point, the point is big brother normalizing censorship of things that would in no way be censor-able even a year ago

we can't allow that to continue or EVERYONE will be silenced eventually

i also wish the original was released the same but just without the swastika/salute... but that's a totally separate issue

bad shit is going down with internet censorship
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>>139444428
Didn't Hitler say something about dropping symbols that were dragging down progress?
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>>139445954
0-3
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>>139438131
>>139438662
Just want to point out I asked him to switch to geo-flag and he only switched from white supremacist to European. So, there is like what, a 96% (((chance)))
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>>139442580
why does it have the gay two dads with a son then?
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>>139437433
THIS

JUST DON'T INCLUDE A FUCKING SWASTIKA, PEOPLE WILL BE MORE OPEN TO WHAT WE HAVE TO SAY!

...this is obvious
...this isn't hard

STOP 88KEKING FAGGOTS
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>>139437433
> "Stop NORMALIZING the Swastika"
> "This is not normal"
> "Stop it."
> "Stop Swastika"
> "Bad Swastika"
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>>139443744
>Once the Far-Right starts to become centrist,
fuck you

we ARE NOT the nazis
the left wants to stick us in the nazibox
stop helping them

Sticking a swastika on something doesn't automatically make it more 'based' or more 'rightwing'.

14 words+antidegeneracy =/= centrist
Stop 88cucking.
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>>139445867
https://vid.me/aV2I6

https://vid.me/aV2I6

https://vid.me/aV2I6
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>>139438662
great art. will be taught in art history classes.
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>>139437433
>kosher

good goy
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>>139446227
the time it would take to normalize the swastika to white people would mean our race is already extinct, though

Millions of white people are open AF to the message of being pro-white, they're sick of the antiwhite propaganda. Seize the initiative. The 88cuckery just holds us back and HELPS THE LEFT/ANTIWHITES.

...prove me wrong

>>139446323
it's great art but they shouldn't have used a swastika

>>139446402
88cucking is 100% kosher approved, it's the only kind of pro-white you can be. The media wants to put all white people who don't want to die out in the nazibox.

Fight back, it's not useless.
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>>139436178
Lmao

This is almost better than the original
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>>139446170

Actually a good point, if you support any cause and also openly claim to be a Nazi, you are not doing that cause any favors
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>>139439212
> giving up is the only alternative to being politically incorrect
What the fuck is wrong with you?
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>>139443011
Stormniggers need to die
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>>139446227
Idiot, normalizing the swastika is like trying to normalize rape or shitting down people's throats

It's never going to fucking happen you autistic retard
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>>139440858
what's CW mean? Content warning? What a bunch of faggots


ps to the goys that created the video, the Jewish star transition was top notch. good shit
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>>139436849
If they got rid of the LITERAL NAZI shit, it would be an awesome video for redpilling everyone.
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>>139438131
you have a talent for making these even just one vid is pretty powerful propaganda. keep making more
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>>139446649
>normalizing the swastika is like trying to normalize rape
>it's never going to happen
Seems to be working great for Muslims.
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>>139440858
>tfw i just want to shitpost on facebook with this kind of stuff just to trigger the normies
>but can't because jewbook has real life consequences now
:^)
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>>139446462
your forgetting that normies are retarded and will believe literally anything you tell them
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>>139445638
This is just a fact. Read Mein Kampf. Why do natsocs deny reality? Just be natsoc and admit the truth.

Hitler talks again and again about Slavs being inferior to Germanic peoples. Why do you care what Hitler thought of Slavs is the real question.

>>139446571
Stormnigging is antiwhite. The media/kikes/antiwhites get a huge hardon for Nazi types and people who identify as Nazi... because it helps to hurt a pro-white cause.

>>139446540
seriously, we need to win over white hearts and minds to support our race, the swastika/nazi shit is an obstacle in the way of that

>>139446649
this.

Also Hitler wasn't even a White nationalist like we are, today. He had some good ideas, but the idea that everything pro-white is forever now "Nazi" is literally a ;eftwing Jewish antiwhite idea used to brainwash our people.

Oh, the irony!!

>>139446723
this right here

>>139446791
Normalizing the swastika won't do fuckall to help us, anyway. The public can think being pro-white is weird/stupid and not be shocked by the swastika. The public isn't shocked by the hammer and sickle, and most of them aren't commies. Wake up.

Your arguments are beyond shit-tier!
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>>139438131
Get rid of Nazi shit in it and reupload it please.
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>>139446571
>Stormniggers need to die
>Gadsden Flag
Why are they treading on you? LOL
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>>139446462
nah, it doesn't really matter. they are going to call you a nazi no matter what.
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>>139446856
I would love for normies to be more open to the axis being /goodguys/, but that could take a fucking century at this rate.

More white people are more open to supporting their race than they are to WW2 revisionism. It's so obvious.
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>>139446877
>you can't normalize it
>okay you can but it won't matter
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>>139443011

Stormcucks like you are the reason no one takes this board seriously.
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>>139446973
theres no need to revise anything, the point is accepting the legacy of nationalism and moving forward not shoving it in a closet and hoping no one will remember. its self sabotage of the highest order
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>>139440858
> "we're going to need a bigger golem"

kek
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>>139446928
"they are gonna call me a fag, so might as well go march in the pride parade w/ a dildo"

nah dude, it doesn't work that way.

The point is to get openminded normal white people to see the charge of "you're a nazi" as bogus shit. Many already do.

You're making the label "nazi" stronger by self-identifying as "nazi". Stop sucking the left's dick. Antiwhites want you to be "nazi" as much as possible.

>>139446974
>stormcucking this hard
stop

The 14 words are a 10,000 pound bolder we are trying to haul up the hill. The 88 is a 50,000 pounder. Your shit is weighing us down.

Millions of white people are open AF to a pro-white cause, far fewer care about WW2 revisionism.
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>>139446791
top fucking kek m80 hahah
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>>139446877
>Hitler talks again and again about Slavs being inferior to Germanic peoples
Exactly, good thing that Hitler thought Poles were Germanic :^)
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>>139446046

Did the government take it down? I thought Youtube (a private company that can chose to host or not host whatever it pleases on its platform) took it down.
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>>139446791
>implying shitting down each other's throats isn't being normalized, too

Go ask around on /d/ or /gif/ or something, and you'll get shitloads of it.
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>>139447085
We don't need to get normal white people to rethink 20th century nationalism for them to embrace a pro-/ourpeople/ message.

Prove me wrong.
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>>139441831
I know this seems like a sensible compromise but its fundamentally just cucking

optics cucking just invites more concern trolling and even more optics cucking and it doesn't stop until you are basically just a "centrist" faggot that lets the left tell you what to do

its a satirical video where nazi chads smash mosques, the target audience is young online edgy memers, people who are not going to freak out in a moral panic by seeing AN EVVIILL NHATZEEEE SWASTIKA

all you strategic marketing genius completely fail to take into account the fact that we litteraly joke around about gassing people an nazis constantly and have converted millions of "normies"

The daily fucking stormer was the size of Salon, Vox, and some of these other mainstream shitlib rags with soviet tier censorship and pretty much every cuck on planet earth denouncing them

>tl;dr: Normies can be memed into the far right without needing to use ultra cryptic milquetoast optics
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>>139447225
No, he thought /some/ Poles were Germanic because he retardedly defined Germanic as being blondness, so blond nordic looking Poles were considered Germanic.
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>>139446462
> First it was the Swastika.
> Now it is tje confederate flag.
> Next it will ne the American flag.
> Then it will be all flags vaigely attributed to White Nationalism.

The very first step is to get tje normies to stop being offended by stupid stuff lile flags.
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>>139446145
it's to trick YouTube's censorship algorithms
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>>139447358
>le Hitler only liked aryans meme
Epic, did your jewish teacher told you about it
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>>139447273
people remember the last century, your never going to get them to forget it. you might get them to realize that the past is in the past though but not if you keep dredging up and reinforcing literal 20th century attitudes like hysteria over swastikas
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>>139438131
>>139438662
Make one without 88 pls
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>>139436849
>>139437433
>>139446723
>>139446170
silly goy, it wouldn't have mattered if he had a swastika or not, questioning the jew overlord in anyway is hate speech :^)
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>>139436378
It was deleted? Holy shit.

>>139437433
>hate
>speech
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>>139446649
How is the swastila anything remoteley offensive to anyone other than a kike?

Do you get offended by the Hammer and Sickle? How about the imperial Japanese flag? What about the Mexican Revolutionary flag?

The only person that would be triggered enougg to associate a literal flag with rape or mouth shotting is a Jew.

Because you are a legit ethnicity of insane people.
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>>139447336
You are stubborn and delusional. You have to take things a bit at a time.

Your focus should just be on getting normies to state openly, confidently, and together in great numbers that they don't like gay culture or slut culture or Muslim invaders or Mexican invaders.

Get normies to start talking about and admit that white Americans have a right to keep the country white. Get them to admit that it is of no benefit to the country to replace most of the people with latin Americans and their culture.

You are reaching too far by trying to push for the far, far right straight off. You have to go in steps to change the public's perception of what is normal and acceptable in the realm of ideas.
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>>139447225
Is that why he killed a bunch of you to make way for real Germans?
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>>139436178
My wifes son
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>>139447336
>I know this seems like a sensible compromise but its fundamentally just cucking
it makes sense b/c true

>optics cucking just invites more concern trolling and even more optics cucking and it doesn't stop until you are basically just a "centrist" faggot that lets the left tell you what to do
giving antiwhites the Nazi imagery they want to shock the white public into silence is actually the real cvcking, 88cvcking is letting yourself be an antiwhite tool.

>>139447336
>The daily fucking stormer was the size of Salon, Vox, and some of these other mainstream shitlib rags with soviet tier censorship and pretty much every cuck on planet earth denouncing them
DS can become gigantic and still not necessarily change things. How many of the people will just sound like hateful retards to 90% of whites and not help at all? Be honest.

Again, Jews/antiwhites love everything "Nazi" you do, because it emboldens them. That's why they attacked the Dailystormer first, because "Nazism" makes it an easy target/harder for people to protest.

provemerong

>>139447370
nothing wrong with considering possible problems, maybe the confederate flag actually is hurting us, who knows

Do what works. Stormsperging hurts white people, that much is obvious.

>>139447579
Jews aren't the ones who matter, here. Openminded Whites are the ones who matter. Appealing to them is the paramount thing we must do.
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>>139447629
Jews were never Poles, you faggot.
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>>139447358
>No, he thought /some/ Poles were Germanic because he retardedly defined Germanic as being blondness
You're either incredibly dumb or incredibly dishonest and a shill. Probably the latter.
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>>139447437
>t. guy who never read mein kampf
neo natsocs don't even know their own ideology
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>all this debating about whether or not to self censor the swastika

Genuinely good discussion lads, keep it up.
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>>139444162
he meant in public events and official channels

he runs the largest alt right site on the internet by an order of a magnitude and he ironically embraces being a neo-nazi white supremacist
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>>139447427
Well they weren't tricked, apparently
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>>139447713
Hitler specifically got Polish blond children to be part of a Germanic breeding program, you massive faggot. Stop crying about history, just accept it.

Actually read Mein Kampf. Jesus Christ.
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>>139438662
Outstanding job, boys.

Keep up with the inspirational tone. Hell, crank it up to 11. It's very very much needed, both for bluepilled youngsters and for blackpilled oldfags.
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>>139447185
>"they are gonna call me a fag, so might as well go march in the pride parade w/ a dildo"
That's a loaded analogy because people will naturally recoil from dildos and naked fags exposing themselves around kids, but people need to be programmed heavily by Jewish education to see swastikas and nazis as bad. That programming can be undone, and you don't do it by cucking to the other sides wishes.

Besides, I am basically a Nazi anyway at this point.
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>>139447742
>HAHA I WILL ASSUME YOU DIDN'T DO SOMETHING YOU ACTUALLY DID
>CHECKMATE
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>>139447626
This is a good post on the 14 vs 88 matter
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>>139444162
>Even fucking Andrew Anglin says people should drop the nazi symbology when trying to present the alt-right to the general populace.
this

He probably realized that a lot of his fans are too stupid to understand irony. He is smart enough to turn on the 88cvcks.
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>>139447370
>stop being offended by stupid stuff lile flags
this needs to be accomplished for multiple reasons related to liberty
>>139447588
>It was deleted? Holy shit.
get it here for now
https://vid.me/aV2I6

keep sharing/viraling it, it only makes the OP remix that much more powerful
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>>139447621
imagine being this ignorant
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>>139447851
people naturally recoil from the swastika

some of those people are white people who are pissed about antiwhite shit

I REST MUH CASE

>>139447856
>500+ years of Polish nationalism
>has to be nationalist via 20th century German shit
Kinda pathetic muh dood
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they say they like the new one better
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>>139444319
>They are a pair of animators who just showed up on TRS out of nowhere.
inb4 8/pol/ decides to dox them and send their info to antifa
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>>139447670
Yet the left's witchhunt on Nazis seems hilarious because American "Nazis" haven't actually done shit. Where are the Nazis blowing things up and genociding everything?

I think people see the "Nazis" ranks growing and they start to wonder why the Nazi message is so attractive.
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>>139447755
checked and this desu senpai
genuinely interesting
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>>139447827
>Actually read Mein Kampf. Jesus Christ.
You clearly haven't read much of it, if you read any part of it at all.
Also, most Slavs are blond, so your argument doesn't even make sense within itself.
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>>139448042
LOL EPIC MAYMAY FRIEND XD
CAN I REPOST IN REDDIT?
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>>139447670
>giving antiwhites the Nazi imagery they want to shock the white public into silence

yes remember when CNN showed nazi pepe gassing jew memes live on air and the Trump movment was "shocked into silence"


fuck guys if only we had memed with less symbology jews don't like maybe Trump would have gotten elected

you are a cuckold, what other symbols does shlomo not want me to post?

>the word anti-white is very problematic and will just be used to scare off boomers so fuck I guess you need to stop saying that right now
>your movement is against milliions of brown people flooding in??? thats racist you can't say that, it will scare the normies
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>>139448042
>people naturally recoil from the swastika
people that have been conditioned to be censor-happy/afraid of everything (as a tool of globalism)

that type of conditioning is what we need to destroy

it's a deadly path
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I think if you dropped the Swastika, the left would still lose their shit and you'd be Nazis.

The problem is that in the modern political climate, anyone who disagrees with transgender 5 year olds or mass importation of Muslims is literally Hitler.
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>>139447851
>Besides, I am basically a Nazi anyway at this point.
White? Male? Our existence alone is supremacy so if I'm going to be called every buzzword under the sun regardless, I'm going to own it to piss these animals off.
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>>139438131
THANKS GOY!
Love your work, seriously!

You need to get on the Monero bandwagon. It will allow alt-right goys to send/receive money without the (((coinbase))) jews tracking everything.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICbs5Vs2-Vg
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>>139447230
Free speech is a white concept that is broader than its constitutional definition. Leftists and shitskins have trouble understanding this, you keknigger.
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>>139448091
1. people are stupid
2. people believe "NAAAZIS" in America are evil/stupid/crazy/dangerous
3. the left wants to make people think you're part of that
4. you're helping them do that for some reason?

You are just dedicated to this dumb idea because you like to feel like you're part of a radical ultracool edgy gr00p. It's retarded. I rest my case.

>>139448117
Hitler defined Germanic as "Nordic" so blond blue eyed people are considered "Germanic" in Nazi ideology. Most slavs are not typical nordic types, at all. You need to fuck off and read MK or GTFO
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>>139448248
>I think if you dropped the Swastika, the left would still lose their shit and you'd be Nazis.
They'd just call you the Klan and post pics of Klan events rather than your actual event. Oh wait, they already do that.
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>>139448248
yep 100%

we've let this globalist mind-control bullshit fester unchecked for far too long
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>>139448333
If there weren't actual peaceful and tolerant Nazis like us, they wouldn't have a target to demonize with their insane witch hunts which are spilling over onto everyone else. Nice script get.
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>>139448226
not using the swastika is smart, using it makes no sense

using the term antiwhite makes sense, it's smart

any questions?

>>139448229
You need to appeal to people, faggot. Appeal to openminded whites who are sick of antiwhite shit. The swastika doesn't appeal to those people, and you know it. It's seen as a foreign, weird, scary symbol to most people.

Destroying the anti-Hitler conditioning is much, much, much harder than destroying the anti-white conditioning.

>>139448358
who cares what they call you?

the point is to make the name-calling look bogus to normal whites who are fed up with antiwhites
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>>139448333
this and only this
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>>139447336
God damn if the /r/the_donald hasn't fucking ruined the term "concern trolling," but you're fundamentally correct.
Make sane tactical decisions, don't drape yourself in the flag because it's a massive target. But it's also subversive and provocative.
The hypersensitivity to 20th century nationalism needs to be broken down. I know it doesn't seem like the easy path, but the comparisons can always be made and those who faint at the sight of Nazi imagery the parallels will just be 2spooky. Take a page from the Leftists. Let your radical flank do its thing and stop punching right.
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>>139443011
fuck off, moshe.
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>>139448322

So, you think people should be forced to give a platform to statements they disagree with? Why are you so against free speech?
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>>139448248
>I think if you dropped the Swastika, the left would still lose their shit and you'd be Nazis.
the point is to make the name-calling of you as "Nazi" look bogus and unfair to the millions of Trump supporting white people who are fed up with antiwhite shit being shoved in their faces.

Bad optics is codeword for antiwhite.

>>139448551
Whites are open to pro-white ideas, more than ever. The swastika/nazi shit scares them away. Telling those people that it's not nazi/hateful/crazy to be pro-white actually helps. They want to be reassured they're not becoming "evil racists".

So help them.
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>>139447626
The Left did not get where it is today by demanding all the worst shit right off the bat. They advanced their agenda in increments. They get some little thing they want and they wait a few years for that to normalize then they start to push the next thing. Fast forward a few decades and look at where we are today.

The way we've won what success we have had in this last year or so is by emulating the Left's culture of subversive art.

That "Take Back our Future" video is good. With certain audiences, the Swastika works. However we need 'propaganda' that we can aim at different demographics. A lot of the public are people much older than anyone in Gen Z. They still matter but they aren't going to be won over with Nazi imagery. You aren't going to counter decades of (((Leftist))) propaganda with a witty caption.

In their case the 'censored' or even "Surrender" video works better because it doesn't suggest any real radical change on their part; just that they admit to themselves that they dislike hedonistic Left Wing culture.


The only way to attempt to get them to soften up on Nazi Germany is to get them to acknowledge that WWII is in reality not black and white. Just getting most people aged 35 and over to admit that WWII had "shades of grey" would be a major victory. Just getting them to accept that Nazis weren't the GREATEST EVIL IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD or at least not the ONLY ONE would be a great start.

It's easy to do too because the facts are relatively well known and easy to digest. Namely, that Communism killed more people, that Communist revolutionaries enabled the Nazi Party in the first place, and that the Allies indiscriminately targeted civilians during the war as well, maybe even more-so with their massive unstoppable bombing campaigns. Just talking about that sort of thing gets them to confront the fact, in a comfortable way, that WWII was not clear cut and maybe the Nazis are demonized "more than they should be".
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>>139436378
Post the original on Bitchute.
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>>139445229
It says, "No Homo".
Learn to read.
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>>139448485
this only works if you say you're doing it to make a point later, saying "I'm akshully a reel nashinul soshulist" just scares openminded whites away.

Stop shooting our race in the foot, stormcvck.
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>>139448333
Nordic/germanic does not simply mean blond blue eyed people. Again, that would include most slavs, which you say Hitler hated. You seem know very little about National Socialism.
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>>139448637

This.

You can't have "REEEEEEEEEE!! EVERYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH ME IS A LITERAL NAZI!!!" and also "we are literal Nazis". It's one or the other.
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>>139448637
>the point is to make the name-calling of you as "Nazi" look bogus
It's never going to be bogus. Stop letting them set the narrative and thinking you need to denounce symbolism and the like to gain points. They are never going to be on your side no matter how much you denounce or flail yourself. You want to make it bogus? Own it as opposed to distancing.
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>>139448650
If leftwing fucks owned the term "Communist" they would have lost. Most commiefucks called themselves "liberals" and publicly stated that the USSR was badguys to the public.

GOOD OPTICS=A CHANCE TO CHANGE SHIT
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>>139448712
Nah I will keep being a Nazi and finding ways to normalize it and redpill people on the Jew. You worry about doing things your way, if you want to make videos without swastikas then that's your right.
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>>139444469
You cant shut down 6 gorillion copies
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>>139448828
But goy, you should plaster everything with the swastika!
Who cares if you scare moderate whites away, (((we))) don't need people or numbers or anything. If they don't literally worship the swastika already, it's no use trying to save them.
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>>139440858
Oy vey
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>>139448637
>>139448828
You don't get it. This is what I mean by taking a page from the Left. They keep the radicals at arms length and reject the association.
But do they lift a single fucking finger to shut it down? No. Because they know that those radicals who happily proclaim "I am a Marxist" are disarming their enemies of an important rhetorical weapon.
Stop punching right, and get your own shit instead of trying to co-opt. That's all that's being said.
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>>139436178
This is a good video.

What happened man. What Happened.

What Happened to the day when John Lennon would perform, and everyone would just be in harmony.

What Happened to when Eminem was Busting the Alt-Right's Ovaries in his music, which was topping the charts.

I wanna go back to the year 2003, when I was still a kid, When I was having fun.

>>139438131
This is the first I've heard of you, and I love you guys already. Putting in real work.
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>>139448828
They also kept the literal communists around so they themselves would seem moderate in comparison. They never do anything against their radical fringes, which is why the overton window has been moving in their (or should I say your) direction.
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>>139448650
>A lot of the public are people much older than anyone in Gen Z
also older people influence younger people, a chain reaction of gen X and boomers can influence younger people, believe it or not. If 100,000 Gen Xers start to think being pro-white is a good idea, that can influence 10,000 Gen Z who go on to influence more Gen Z. Fucking basic shit that dumb neo-natsoc larpers fail to take into account.

>>139448844
this is dumb, grow up. there is no such thing as a "nazi" anyway. Most white people who ever lived agreed with basic underlying premises of natsoc Germany, anyway.

>>139448938
this,

we need to scare away every white person who is fed up with antiwhite shit from potentially reaching out to us or joining us.

ONWARD LARPBROS
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>>139449068
>I wanna go back to the year 2003, when I was still a kid, When I was having fun.
I just want to go back to sleep. Too bad.
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>>139448287
Yes, but not every white male is like you. That's what you have to understand. Not everybody has the courage to stand up for themselves, to go against the public opinion, or even to admit TO THEMSELVES that they feel contrary to what the mainstream is telling them.

Most people, assuming they aren't just go with the flow types, are also too busy and detached to look too deeply into anything. They watch CNN because they have long hours at their job and then two kids to take care of and want to relax and get a rundown of the news that is brief and easy to understand. Even if they don't like CNN much anymore that doesn't mean they are inclined to respect some "nobody" on Youtube or on a website they've never heard of. Even if they think CNN lies that doesn't mean they think Donald Trump tells the truth. After all, CNN or their local Left Wing newspaper might still be their only sources of news so everything they perceive is through that lens.

>the media sucks
>but those racists just hate people for the color of their skin
>violent skinheads is all they are
>lookit how they killed that girl Heather
>well, got to get the kids ready for bed


You have to sway normies bit by bit in part so that THEY can then persuade OTHER NORMIES bit by bit. When you get normies to accept harmless truths that go against the mainstream they won't feel too much at risk bringing it up with others. They won't feel like they are aligning themselves with "racists".

Over time you can push things farther, but it's a long term strategy.
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>>139448495
>You need to appeal to people, faggot. Appeal to openminded whites who are sick of antiwhite shit. The swastika doesn't appeal to those people, and you know it. It's seen as a foreign, weird, scary symbol to most people.
>Destroying the anti-Hitler conditioning is much, much, much harder than destroying the anti-white conditioning.
Two different things are being discussed here, retard. I already said I wish they had just released the original without the swastika/roman salute as far as reaching out to normies goes.

But also, WE CAN'T KEEP GIVING IN TO CENSORSHIP AND FREEDOM OF THOUGHT/EXPRESSION SUPPRESSION without a second thought as we have been for the past few years. E.g. Taking down all these statues would have been completely UNIMAGINABLE even a few short years ago. Where is it going to end? IT WON'T unless we push back.
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>>139448495
>who cares what they call you?
>the point is to make the name-calling look bogus to normal whites who are fed up with antiwhites
Good point.
>>139448637
Ok, lets define terms though, who are you trying to appeal to and why? 20 year olds will never be inspired by a flag that niggers and wetbacks can wear just as much as they do, a flag that they've seen on everything from flip-flops to toilet paper, it's r/thedonald/teaparty, no one cares. You need something that young angry kids can rally around and feel special waving, something for Whites only.
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>>139436178
The "I'm a paedophile but I'm not a monster" headline seems misplaced.

Mostly because the creator was silly enough to include the non-clickbait subheading that points out that they've never acted on their desires.
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>>139447967
Answer the question then. Why does the Swastika iffend you more than another country that you engaged in warfare with?

My country faught the confederates. Lots of "my side" of the war died, but the Confederate flag doesn't offend me. Why would a swastika offend you?
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Based Dads.

Genuinely looking forward to a future Murdoch Murdoch / 2Dads crossover
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>>139448828
Exactly, and the thing is, if you're truly on the Right, you'd be a voluntarist or libertarian to some extent. (New libertarians, not the degenerate ones)
Nazis need to stop larping and actually look into the truth: freedom.
Voluntarism has crystal clear optics; there's nothing the media can use against us if we turn voluntarist.
Take the gold pill.
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>>139449019
The left does /not/ let itself be defined by its radical fringe, though. Natsocucks want to make white identity all about "muh Hitler". Fuck that. I'm not trying to shut your ass down, I'm being smart. This is like if Barack Obama had decided to use fucking antifa symbols on his 2008 campaign for President.

Stop trying to define our racial identity and nationalism by natsoc. Stop. I would be fine with you people, but you always love to scream "cuck" at people who aren't as "extreme" as you.
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>>139448815
>They are never going to be on your side no matter how much you denounce or flail yourself. You want to make it bogus? Own it as opposed to distancing.
Many of these already brainwashed faggots are incapable of understanding this. This lack of understanding is how the left got so out of control.
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Was that really made by lefties? 2dadsTV sounds like something pol/MDE would come up with. It's also very tasteful, except for the salute and the swastika and some other things, but overall it's 10/10 video, plus (+) points points for the comfy atmosphere.
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>>139448987
IT'S ANOTHER SHOAH
6293874932865290861036363 GORBILLIONAILLIONDILLION
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>>139449180
You're not wrong, but time is something we are ever much lacking in. I know the foothold my enemies have at the moment with those who haven't unplugged and what is on the line so unfortunately I'm not going to water down the actual message just to make some temporary headway. All or nothing at this point.
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>>139449368
Have you not seen the original video first?
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>>139448650
Fabian tactics don't work for the right, and we don't have the time to engage in them if we did
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>>139449019
>the Left. They keep the radicals at arms length and reject the association.
FUCK YOU
they and the MSM openly embrace antifa, blm, child transgenders and every other crazy shit you can think of
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>>139449324
You don't even know who you're arguing with. I haven't used Natsoc imagery even once. I'm just sick and tired of nationalists and white identitarians turning into the speech police. It's not productive.
I think the problem is that you're taking ownership of this video in a way that is totally illegitimate. This isn't a Trump campaign video. I mean what the fuck are you even talking about, honestly? Just let the god damn Natsocs oper8 and stop being a cock block.
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>>139449195
I'm not pro-censorship. I'm just pro-smart propaganda. The fact is that Nazi shit scares away people we need to win over. Be pragmatic, be smart.

Nazi iconography or flags won't somehow help us to BTFO the left or save those statues, either, come on man. We don't need that shit to push back, at all.

>>139449199
I don't know exactly what symbols we should use. The American flag is great, though, and most people subconsciously see it as a white thing. We can come up with something that's tasteful. A symbol of European heritage that isn't something people are trained to hate.

>>139449180
golden post
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>>139449580
Yeah, try and pin down any individual and they'll squirm right out of that shit.
It's tacit approval, but not explicit.
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>>139448314
@6:26
Why's he speaking-
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>>139449472
Sheeeit, I just watched the OPs video and it's not the same as the original. I thought it was the original video, and I was talking about the original video. Why did they edit it like that? Still, the new edited video seems like a jab at the people who got offended by the original video. All those buzzfeed clips, muslim sobstories etc. no way that's not ironic.
Also the music is by Cybernazi, one of the many "fashwave" artists that originate from pol.
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>>139449324
Exactly
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>>139447225
>WE WUZ GERMANICZ N SHIEET
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>>139449639
>The American flag is great, though, and most people subconsciously see it as a white thing.
Until "muh based black guy" shows up, then hey, he's just as American as me! We need our own thing and it's needs to remain ours. These 20 year olds have never had anything to themselves.
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>>139449583
>I'm just sick and tired of nationalists and white identitarians turning into the speech police. It's not productive.
literally this never happens, it's just smart people saying "hey guys, don't go full 88tard, because that helps antiwhites".

Nothing is wrong with that. 88ers actually cause most of the trouble by constantly bashing people they consider more "moderate" and calling them cucks. Seriously. If 88tards would stop attacking the 14only people, there would be a much smaller problem.
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>>139449685
Youtube took it down. And apparently even took down one with the swastika only removed too. So its up on some other sites and than people have uploaded it on youtube again anyways as well. One of the creators posted earlier in the thread that they had already made it in anticipation of the original getting taken down, and also that a new one would come soon
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>>139449145
Heh. Yeah.
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>>139449844
no, because it's a white movement for white people, and I don't care if someone has a problem with that.

It's not about being American. We can obviously find something to represent our race. Why not have several European flags flying together at any future rally/march? We are Europeans, it's our blood.

That's what matters. Nazi symbols scare away people we /need/ to win.
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>>139449019
I don't advocate punching right at all. I think we should just ignore the Nazi imagery and groups and make it clear to normies that they are not the leaders. We don't hinder them, but we do help them merely by reminding the normies and media that those evil Nazis have extreme ideas but at least they aren't starting riots or trying to shut down free speech. If asked to condemn them we just say, "We don't think white people are superior to other people and we support democracy".

Learn to be a bit of a politician and spin the questions toward the policies we want. Talk about how some people get 'drawn into Nazism and white supremacy' because they feel like society has this double standard. Non white people can have racial pride and advocacy but they aren't demonized for it. Left Wing PC culture goes too far and shames young white men and makes them feel marginalized so it is only natural that they turn towards Neo Nazis. We say that this can be rectified if young white men can have racial pride again, pride without hate, like other groups. That crowds cheering when a talk show host states that whites will become a minority in the future makes white people feel like they are under attack. We point out that true diversity means a diversity of cultures and natures and so keeping Europe's people distinct is essential towards preserving the rich tapestry of life.

That leads into immigration and how uncontrolled immigration threatens this. It creates societies within societies with no common ground. This enflames tensions and strife and feeds hatred and bigotry. This is why we MUST CONTROL OUR BORDERS.
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>>139438131
Is that supposed to be Roddy Piper with the wrecking ball?
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>>139449907
What do you mean it never happens? It derails every discussion of anything that involves even a slight nod to Nazism.
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>>139449907
Literally you're doing this right now. But then you're neither a nationalist or an identitarian, are you?
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>>139437564
Same shit with the IHE and the Feminists get rekt channels, fuck youtube or should i say ...google?
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>>139449984
This is all fine and good, and we basically agree. I'm just not bitching at animators trying to get them to censor swastikas.
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>>139449984
Nazicucks attack pro-whites all the time, though. That's the problem. We could get along if some dumb "natsoc" wasn't constantly calling someone like me, a pro-white activist, a "cuck" 24/7.

For most of these people, natsoc is just about being edgy, it's not a serious ideology.

>>139450065
No, this is me criticizing you. That's not the fucking speech police. I think you're fucking up. You can tell me I'm dumb. I'm not censoring anyone.

You just want to shut people up who disagree with your dumb tactics.

>>139450058
Nods to Nazi shit divide people because it's terrible tactics, and some of us realize it. Nazi shit has only ever helped antiwhites, and helped them a lot.

Neo Nazis are like antiwhite porn. Jews jizz their pants for Neo Nazis because they scare white normies away from being pro-white. So obvious. Prove me wrong.
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>>139450036
It's the guy from "they live" which is a movie about kicking the ass of subversive elements in a society.

>>139438131
Why haven't you uploaded to vid.me and vimeo?
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>>139449907
Going 88 helps normalize more controversial topics like no-whites-period.

Most people who visit /pol/ often realize that yeah, at first it's kind of wierd to see Hitler everywjere, bit once the shock wears off, he becomes a silly meme, no more powerful than Pepe.

For someone who advocates moving slowly with the redpill, imagine the shock and horror normies will have when we try to push the window further about the eugenics programs or the ethno-viruses, or the elimination of all Jewish thought from the annals of recorded history.
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>>139450162
If the animators are prowhite they will remove it, though. Anti-88 is prowhite. 88 only serves to scare people away from white identity.

Seriously it's just so plain and obvious. I understand you want to be edgy, but come the fuck on...
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>>139447851
We are all fascists and nazis but we don't need to present ourselves as such because the labels are poison. What we should do is continue to present the ideas which underline those movements but without the labels, because the ideas themselves can't be programmed as bad to normies.

Every time the Jude calls us nazi, we should say "nope I'm for free speech and pro traditional". When they call us fascist we say "nah, I just want to protect my culture and have a place to raise a family". The normies love those things, later you can tell them one by one that they were in fact following fascism and they'll see it's not a bad thing just a label with bad associations.

I recommend everyone in this thread reads some work on memes & linguistics. Semiotics as well, though just the part that comes from linguistics (Barthes, Saussure)
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>>139450345
Oy vey, I meant "no-non-white-period" haha!
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>>139450255
I think the success of /pol/ as a memetic force has already proved you wrong. It didn't achieve that level of influence by being the fun police.
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>>139449457
Well maybe you don't have to but some of us ought to water it down and spread something easier to digest. Just don't take it personally if I say, "Well that other Anon is a bit radical, but here is why he feels that way."

It is tempting to see the Left getting more radical and think that it means we can too... but it doesn't. The Left has some significant advantages that we don't; namely their infiltration and dominance over the media and academia. They've been losing politically in terms of government but they still have a lot of influence there too in the form of mayors, police chiefs, some governors, and senators. They also seem to be favored by CEO's and corporations perhaps because they are natural consumers who chase after expensive fads and perhaps because the media amplifies their voice. It is also important to remember that the Left was supported and advanced, trained, organized, and FUNDED, by the Soviets during the cold war. There was no equivalent to the Right Wing so what we have today is essentially built up from scratch and after 70 years of decline only NOW starting to gain a LITTLE ground.

The normies (even some lefties) are turning on ANTIFA but they are still very slow to come to our side.
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>>139450345
>Going 88 helps normalize more controversial topics like no-whites-period.
I don't agree, I think it just makes people assume that the antiwhite propaganda is true. We are struggling like hell just to get white people to have a positive prowhite identity, anything more extreme is harder. Pepe and Hitler memes work because they're edgy and fun.

>>139450345
>imagine the shock and horror normies will have when we try to push the window further about the eugenics programs or the ethno-viruses, or the elimination of all Jewish thought from the annals of recorded history.
that is so far from now that thinking about it is almost pointless, sorry.

I would fucking love for normies to think Hitler was a pretty cool guy. But welcome to 2017 USA, it ain't pretty. We have to move the needle further right, and it's hard and slow work. Edgy/ironic fun Nazi memes can be awesome, but unironic national socialism is just never going to take off. Maybe in 50 years, when it's already too late.

WE MUST UNITE WHITE PEOPLE IN DEFENSE OF THEIR RACE, THAT IS WHAT MATTERS. GETTING THEM TO CHANGE THEIR VIEWS ON WW2 IS TOTALLY SECONDARY.
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>>139450405
you should watch some interviews between your type and any random leftist, that kind of strategy breaks apart almost immediately because your trying to fit your views under the premises of the left, and its like oil and water.
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>>139449571
We have more time than you might think. Even if whites become a slight minority in America that is still only when ALL the non-whites are grouped together. They can be pitted against each-other. Considering the headway we've made against the Left today there is hope that even if they have a resurgence that they will only try to overreach again, but in more unstable and discontented times. If in 30 or 40 years the Right has infiltrated institutions and developed political infrastructure and funding, faced with a US and West that is failing due to a large non-white population, then the kindling to ignite a great fire is even better.

One of our hurdles today is that life is still easy and comfortable. People don't feel endangered. They don't need someone to protect them. So they are inclined to support anything that doesn't interfere in their day to day lives very much. As of now, we are hoping the that the Left overreacts and invites a backlash from the public and Trump administration, destroying their credibility in the process.

That may happen... but then it might not.
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>>139450620
No that's wrong you fucking retard. If you take the high ground and the left is just spewing buzzwords at you, you win the debate
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>>139449984
This is a great post btw
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>>139450578
Standing on an ever-shrinking floe of ice, yelling "I'm not a Nazi, I'm not a Nazi, I'm not a Nazi!!"
No thanks.
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>>139450405
Goddamnit so you're why I can't genuinely feel that way without being a labeled a nazi by leftists.
Fucking hell
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>>139450262
The original is on vimeo, and another anon has it on vid.me in the thread. The original's link is in the one posted in OP on jewtubes site
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>>139450405
>agree that Nazis are bad
>say you only want to protect your culture
>Left starts to identify "protecting culture" and whatever you said with Nazis
>since normies are so brainwashed that Nazism is bad, they will now start seeing "protecting culture" as bad too

See the trap you're in? It all leads to Nazism in the end. Besides, women like it when men just come out and be themselves and don't care what the world thinks about them.
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>>139450433
We need to focus on the prize, though. The prize would be normalizing white people being like "hey fuck all the antiwhites why do they hate us so much?". We're almost there. A day is coming when white identity will be all over the place and will become unstoppable/too big to fail. That might come next year, it might be 5 years. That is our goal.

Think about every other goal as an afterthought. We need to awaken white identity or none of it matters, not even the JQ.
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>>139450255
>I think you're fucking up.
How are National Socialists who promote National Socialism fucking up? Yes, it might be easier to achieve what you want, but then it would even easier to be a liberal, so why aren't you doing that? Does it have something to do with liberalism not being the thing you want?
Also, even if you're alt light (or anywhere right of center for that matter) it is good for you, that people who are further to the right exist. It makes your positions seem more mainstream.
This is how the democrats manage to seem moderate, despite the fact that they're enacting policies which would have been unthinkable 20 years ago.
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>>139450695
ive never seen a debate won that way, what i see is the left asking just few questions that you wont want to answer because they dont sound as nice, and your kind either dodging and looking shifty as all hell (normies of course assuming you want to gas all their brown eyed friends since you arent clear) or answering and revealing that your views dont blend at all with the modern values you are trying to pretend you can coexist with
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>>139450255
>Nazicucks attack pro-whites all the time, though.

So? Ignore them. You can take it. If the normies start insisting that you denounce Nazism and White Supremacy then what you do is accuse the accuser of trying to stereotype you. Accuse them of trying to drag the issues off point. The fringe elements don't speak for you and don't drive your movement. They are a vocal minority. What YOU want is much more reasonable and it is just another example of media and cultural bias that you are labeled this way and forced to talk about the KKK and Neo Nazis any time you try to discuss getting some pro-white advocacy or border control and such.


>>139450345
>Going 88 helps normalize more controversial topics like no-whites-period.

Sure, but you have to direct that message smartly and be patient with it.
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>>139450912
>We're almost there.
We're not if you think like some people in this thread who believe if we just tone the message down enough we'll break through. You want to red pill the masses? Let it sink in that anything even that isn't complete and total communism is going to be demonized and why they should no longer give two fucks what people think.
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>>139450761
except a higher % of white people in 2017 agree with "I'm sick of the antiwhite shit, I like the idea of being proud of who I am" than they did in 2007... and it has fuckall (nothing) to do with changing attitudes about Nazism

For our race to survive, we need people to consider "Nazi" an antiwhite insult, which it is. I don't cuckout and swear I'm not racist when I'm called a Nazi. I tell the person who called me that to shut up and that they're antiwhite scum.

prove-me-wrong.
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>>139449639
>censorship
>smart propaganda
THESE ARE TWO SEPARATE ISSUES you divide and conquer trolls, and both are equally important

THERE WON'T BE A FORUM for ANY smart propaganda if the censorship trends continue
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How come jews are the only ones that can discriminate and hired based on a persons religion, and nobody seems to care? No lawsuits, nothing...
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let's just all call ourselves Chad nationalists, everyone wants to be Chad or to be with Chad.
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>>139451106
I think you're a kike who's terrified of more good propaganda like this video.
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>>139451060
>So? Ignore them. You can take it.
the point is that 88ers are a drag on pro-white activism and they cause the problem/the controversy of people arguing about optics in the first place.
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>>139438131

the left trying to censor you should be exploited in media

show their hypocrisy and you will get more and more publicity: good work goy.
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>>139451180
you blew it

I like the video, but like a lot of people I realize it's going to be more effective sans (French for without) the swastika.
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>>139450863
The left doubling down on calling normality nazi and everything white people do as bad is exactly what we want though. When they are attacking the idea of protecting history and culture they come off as tyrants, like they do right now

There is no trap whatsoever, I'm advocating being a nazi in every way but the bad memes, the imagery and label. You can live proudly as a nazi without seig heiling, it's an idea that can exist without hitler

>>139451022
>some sweaty YouTuber neckbeard loses an e-debate without even a moderator aka not a debate
>everything is lost we must be maximum nazis
Fucktard
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>>139451228
Then make your own videos kike. You can diversify it up with based black men and queers.
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>>139450863
Sure, but that is the Left doing that. If they wind up NORMALIZING 'Nazis'... let them. Every time they attack a normie Trump supporter the acceptable "right wing" stretches a little further right.
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>>139451228
>Lost me at the Swatstika
>Bulldozing the mosque would be par for the course with detractors
Quit your shit, shill.
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>>139451157
I'm not pro-censorship in any way. I would never shut anyone down. That doesn't mean I can't tell 88ers they are doing shit-tier propaganda.
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>>139451181
Only because we've been shit at deflecting the attacks.
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>>139450578
We should do both like we've always done.

/pol/ is first and foremost a comedy board for likeminded right-wing peoplento subcommunicate through an indecipherable blend of irony and sincerity.

We tranform oir in-jokes into dogwhistles and LARP/raids that gice us attention so we can pump normies full of redpills through funny-jokes and subversive tactics.

We didn't get this by filtering ourselves. We got this becaise our mod is a Brazilian NEET who day-drinks.

I am not saying the Swastika should be the national symbol for the ethnostate, but withoutnit, we can't easily identify /our d00ds/.

I am pretty sure video in OP was meant more for us than normies. Thebonly reason I didn't think of it as a /fit/ meme was tje obvious redpill in the begining and the immigration, heteronormative ending.

Normies on the otherhand paid attention to it because of the shock-bait. This is how it viraled.

But we do need to remember, this isn't an essay written by Jared Taylor here. This is just a silly cartoon by a band literally called CyberNazi. There is no avoiding the implications.
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>>139451106
Try a different approach. I just lean into it with sarcasm, it typically works fine. I don't see the point of chimping out like someone just called me a Nigger.
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>>139451294
im talking about radio shows and other media, but it figures that you nu/pol/ cucks can only think in terms of youtube ecelebs
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>>139437433
>cucking works

Said noone ever
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>>139451294
There is a trap, because if Nazism is as taboo to normies as you claim, then so are all the ideas which are associated with it. If you allow the Jewish version of history to stand, then you risk normies rejecting right-wing politics altogether because they don't want to be "evil nazis." What we really need is to destroy the social pressure to not be a nazi.

We need to normalize Nazism.
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>>139451351
>That doesn't mean I can't tell 88ers they are doing shit-tier propaganda.
I'm very sorry that we're advocating our world-view rather than yours. How could we do such a thing?
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>>139451299
not an argument, and you have to be 18 to post here

you know I'm a white nationalist, but hey, whatever, trololololo

>>139451335
normie whites fucking hate Islam to their core, so it's fine... normie whites are disgusting by swastikas

>>139451360
the issue is that neo nazis have dominated white identity since the end of WW2, much to the glee of antiwhites

>>139451383
we are already winning, because white identity is more popular than ever

>>139451470
Jews 100% want white identity to be 100% "muh Hitler"-ism. Don't give the antiwhites their wish.

>>139451525
your worldview isn't different than mine, natsoc is just rightwing virtue signalling.

You're an edgy virtue signaler par excellence.
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Some great discussion here right now, maybe 4pol isn't entirely lost.
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>>139436849
>It was barely offensive anyways.
They're not blocking just "offensive" videos anymore
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ea_nzhIJp4k
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>>139451470
Serious videos should not have swastikas

funny videos should, for lulz and counter-culture purposes.

One of the most powerful tools the right has to make use of is being associated with counter-culture. It always wins out in the end. So make serious videos without TRIGGERING people but funny videos to trigger people and show the hypocrisy and limits of our society.
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>>139438662
Thank you, we expected that you would have this as a backup. Though The Bavarians and Gnomes of Zurich won't appreciate your message, we find it... Illuminating.
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>>139451391
Post examples then, cuck

>>139451470
Wrong, the ideas of natsoc meld with so many other political movements. There are no ideas that are unique even to it, it's just the mix of them. You can't kill the overall idea because it can just be rebranded. Even just using National Socialism is better because a political philosophy is independent of those who did, or attempted to follow it
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Another thread some goy posted we can migrate there
>>139449631
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>>139451638
No fucking way
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>>139451638
This really schlomos my schekels
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>>139438131
>>139438662
Commissariatgames here, I warned you guys, glad I got a backup of it downloaded.

Knew as soon as I saw that kike-book screenshot that this was going to happen.
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>>139447742
What are you talking about? First of all, there is a high density of blondes in eastern europe, Belarus has one of the highest percents of blondes in Europe. Second of all, please provide quotes from Mein Kampf supporting what you say because I have read it but it was a couple years ago and I don't recall him saying that.
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>>139451577
No, Jews want Nazism to be an offense worthy of social outcasting, exactly the way it is now. So logically we want to do the opposite, and normalize Nazism again.

I don't know what "Hitlerism" is. Hitler may have been a flawed leader, but National Socialism was a great idea.
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>>139451577
>the issue is that neo nazis have dominated white identity since the end of WW2, much to the glee of antiwhites

Yes and they've been doing that because we've failed hard at the propaganda war. Of-course we were at a disadvantage. However you might have noticed that recently we did win a victory. I do not think /pol/, the alt-Right, and the Great Meme War were the most important factor in Trump's victory, but they helped and they catapulted a new and interesting conception of Right Wing politics onto the world stage.

My suggestion for combating "Nazi" label in the future is to just call out the media and anti-whites, for one. We point out that they are trying to simplify and stereotype our movement, our goals, our grievances, in an unfair and biased way. That's all true. j

Secondly, we explain who some people become genuine neo Nazis because they grow up in a culture that demonizes and marginalizes them. They feel excluded and attacked so they gravitate towards the one voice that builds them up, that champions and venerates them, that defends them. This is the fault of the Left you see and it can only change when they abandon their anti-White ideologies and policies.

We can go further and state that we will stand up for non whites too... but only if they will stand up for us. The double standard must end. Respect must be mutual as only then can there be genuine good will between the races.

We can even talk about the problems in the black community how they are exasperated or enable or caused by Left-wing policies that incentivize failure. Creating a culture that punishes and shames success. We can point out that, logically, we gain nothing from a dysfunctional and failing black community. We want everybody to succeed and to do that we have to start taking a look at the last 50 years of government policy.
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>>139451638
wooww, fucking kike trickery
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>>139451834
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtCY8hNySso
heres a recent example, guy makes great, true points but ultimately fails because he sabotaged himself at the start by cucking
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>>139451470
The left is doing a pretty good job of that, when they call everyone they disagree with, even slightly, a nazi.
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>>139451834
>Wrong, the ideas of natsoc meld with so many other political movements.
such as? you can't just take the "socialism" part and ignore the "nationalism"/"racism" part.

At the end of the day if you are pro-white then you are a Nazi. There is no way around this. There is no political movement you can point to that isn't Nazis or some derivative of them.
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>>139451577
>normie whites fucking hate Islam to their core
Where do you even live, if you don't mind me asking?
>>139451470
Agreed. The truth is that National Socialism just wasn't that wacky. You can't hide from the truth, there's no point in trying. For all the problems of Fascism in the 20th century, it pales in comparison to what the Communists have done. Keep punching left. Focus fire, you fuckers. You don't have to embrace your radicals but never throw them under the bus.
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>>139451577
What is "edgy" about NatSoc? It's a viable entry point into Fascism, which is a very practical foundation for White Nationalism.

Even if you are a Libertarian, or a Capitalist or a Paleocon; I don't think of those as virtue-signaling or edgy just because I am on a different spectrum. I just agree that we are different.

After all, isn't that what Far-Right Ultranationalism is about? Accepting each other for our differences?
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Is there a site that catalogs all the neutered youtube videos and allows to circlejerk/comment on them on a single platform?
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>>139451577
My goal is National Socialism. Your's isn't and what's worse: you actively signal against it. That makes our worldviews very different.
At the end of the day your attitude exactly what made the current "conservatives" lose every political battle since the sixties.
Every time you fight the people to the right of you, the political middle moves a little further left and when we're gone, you will seem like the radical.
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>>139452232
>Far-Right Ultranationalism
>Accepting each other for our differences
u wot m8
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>>139450363
Are you a jew?
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>>139436178
Subtle irony for (((Google))).
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>>139448888
Fuckin checked manolo.
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>>139447370
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKCeESg9Ev8

My daddy died for that flag in Korea!

What a coincidence, mine was made in Korea.
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>>139451351
The instant you deny others the right to an opinion, your own will become worthless.
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>>139437433

You are such a giant faggot
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>>139452567
To defend the namefag, attempting to counsel others on political messaging isn't denying anyone the right to their opinion. It's just really irritating.
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>>139443011
We?

BTFO stormfag
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>>139452332
this. Never seen anybody put it so succinctly. Why has the center gradually being moving left for the past 70 fucking years? Because the conservatives have been doing the Jew's bidding ever since WWII and spending all their energy fighting the far-right. "OH, we have to denounce Nazis, we have to denounce the KKK!"

Take note kids, this is how you become a giant cuck and lose the respect of women everywhere. This is why we had a nigger president and we'll spend the next 70 years cleaning up the damage.
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>>139452189
What part of that natsoc philosophy promotes racism? What part makes nationalism into racism? What is bad about nationalism?

>>139452138
This is your standard? Some meek guy on a radio show with no moderator? That's no debate. Any platform without a third party to stop shit flinging will be won by who has more confidence and who is loudest. Even a white nationalist who is open can lose a radio phone call if the other side is louder
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>>139452332
You haven't won anything in 70 years because you won't rebrand.
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>>139446170
This. Six silly lines ruined an otherwise cromulent message.

(((it's almost like someone doesn't want the world to take the alt-right seriously)))
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>>139452827
>What part of that natsoc philosophy promotes racism? What part makes nationalism into racism? What is bad about nationalism?
I put "racism" in quotes for a reason. The point is that National Socialism was pro-German nationalism and pro-white people worldwide. Hitler discussed all the white races he admired.

What other political movement can you find pro-white ideas from? Or are you telling me you're no longer a white nationalist?
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>>139452956
> "You haven't won anything in 70 years because you won't rebrand."

Pic related seems to be working fine thus far.
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>>139453256
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>>139453288
unironically loving hitler will get you nowhere
even i would shoot at hitler loving faggots, you're as dumb as those who still after all the history support communism
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>>139453025
Most of the classic right wing promotes nation, culture and people. Do you think fascism and nat soc are the only things that ever were pro white? You think pro white is not just an idea you can attach to any new movement you like?

You can't kill ideas, but labels you can kill. Nazi is the deaths of millions of people. A new label won't be.
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>>139452956
"We" haven't won anything in 70 years because we let Jews get away with their schemes, from infiltrating all media/entertainment/education. And if anyone complains about it, the """conservatives""" are waiting there to defend their Jewish overlords, first and foremost.

This is a racial war that never ended. Jews want white women for pleasure/prostitution and to create a mixed race that's easier to rule over. National Socialism stands in the way of this goal so it must be purged.
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>>139453432
>Nazi is the deaths of millions of people.
So are the allies. So are the communists. Any group can be tied to the "death of millions."

>Most of the classic right wing promotes nation, culture and people.
Well the "classic right wing" is dead now because they allowed Jews to infiltrate. And "classic right wing" is not a political movement anyway. Name an actual political movement that was explicitly pro-white.
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>>139452783
Thank you.
>>139452956
We haven't won anything in 70 years because we were banned from any public activism after the war.

>>139453332
>This is a racial war that never ended. Jews want to rule whites so they can use our women for pleasure/prostitution and to create a mixed race and they will destroy any whites that attempt to rule themselves.
You're making it too complicated. The Jews are very greedy and everything else they do is just to make up for that. After all, who cares about jewish financial crime, when there are muslim rapists running around?
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>>139453905
only the allies didn't kill random people for fun, as opposed to nazis and commies
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>>139454150
>only the allies didn't kill random people for fun, as opposed to nazis and commies
Tell that to all the civilians who were firebombed or nuked.

And Nazis killed people for fun? Doubt it, that sounds like Heeb propaganda. You would know since your country only exists thanks to Heebs.
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