/nsg/ 卐 - National Socialism General

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>>139432622
I have a couple of honest questions for you guys.

>1) How is next leader of a NatSoc society chosen?
>2) How economically similar is modern-day People's Republic of China compared to ideal NatSoc?

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>>139432622
WHY ARE THERE SO MANY SHILL AND SLIDE THREADS

Look at the catalouge almost every thread has 10 relpies or less. (((they))) are dumping everything into our ocean of piss. It's like nu-/b/ moved in permanetly.

It seems like every other poster is a shill. How many of these fucks are there? This is worse than it's ever been.

DO YOUR JOB NIGGER MODS

>>139433111
>if I don't like the topic its a slide thread
fuck off nupol

>>139433053
Popularity/merit inside of the party if I recall correctly, also designation from the former leader
I don't know much about modern day china

>>139433262
Nice try shill your shitpost tactics are so obvious it's giving me a hernia. What a joke. You think throwing on the nazi flag is going to help you blend in YOurE aN El3t3 H4cK0R

>>139433111
Honestly post-Syria I just only come here for /nsg/.

>>139433198
I get it, conflict makes us stronger, and war for war's own sake is good. I've read Nietzsche too, and I would be calling this slave morality if we were living 100 years ago. But we're not.

There are fewer young whites now than ever. It'll be harder than ever to replace them once they start going to war. Human life may have been cheap in prior generations - and that is what it was in the greatest of societies - but right now individual white lives are among the most precious and rarest commodities that we have. Spending them en masse for temporally-constrained goals invites untold disaster.

>>139433262
I honestly think he's talking about the other threads famalam. And no offense but there are a lot of shit threads in today's /pol/.

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>>139433318
>Popularity/merit inside of the party if I recall correctly

Can you be more specific? I know it's a similar deal with other systems, but I how do party members choose who the leader is? Or do you suppose it would depend on the specific Nation/party?

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A friendly reminder that the ideal National Socialist is fit, both physically and mentally. I would encourage everyone here to lift, as well as train for endurance. I would also encourage everyone to broaden your horizons; perhaps learn a new language, or play an instrument.
>>/fit/
The sticky has great info on getting strong and lean, as well as good nutrition advice.
https://www.duolingo.com
Learn a language for free, including German.
As National Socialists, we have to represent what's best for our race, both in ideology and in ability.

>>139433812
Hitler wrote that it would probably be an indirect system - like an elected senate would elect the next fuhrer.

Ultimately, that's a blank we'll get to fill in ourselves.

>>139433812
It would depend since fascism has an inherent personality cult. but as this anon said >>139434070
we could figure it out according to our own nations

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how are we supposed to feel about tatted girls?

>>139434052
>As National Socialists, we have to represent what's best for our race, both in ideology and in ability.
You have no idea how much I agree with you

>>139434281
Disgusted. Tats are gross. I've never met someone with a tattoo that didn't have that trademark bad smell.

>>139434281
this one is a particular degenerate
tats are degenerate and degeneracy should be purged from society

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>>139433559
>I would be calling this slave morality if we were living 100 years ago. But we're not.
100 years ago we were 10x more of a distinct civilization and race. 100 years ago every nation of the west was at least 90% Aryan. It's tempting to follow the liberal impulse, and assume that there is some disconnection from the past circumstances or laws of nature because "today we have cellphones and interent", etc. Very little has changed about our problems or circumstances: reading Mein Kampf or the writing of Rockwell and that becomes instantly apparent -- we're living in the same problems, facing the same cancer, only we've spent 80 more years rotting in the opium den of our race's demise. We're 80 years into the illness, but its the same illness.

>>139433700
>I honestly think he's talking about the other thread
No, as you can see here: >>139433504
he's angry that /nsg/ exists because he thinks it's "a shareblue leftypol false flag to make people think we're leftist notsees". Typical nupol pleb.

>>139434281
the same way you feel about any degenerate.

>>139433262
Fuck off shareblue

>>139434430
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>>139434377
alright, well that answers that

>>139434281
I don't have a problem with tattoos on men, but I generally don't appreciate them on women. They're more of a traditional masculine thing.

>>139434581
>Hands stained with the blood of communists
Eww. Wear gloves. That's a good way to catch AIDS or hepatitis.

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>>139433017
Is Uruguay the whitest country in South America?

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>>139434070
A democracy? That surprises me.

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>>139434423
I'll grant that we're facing the same problems. I still remember those chills the first time I read White power by Rockwell, because it was the exact same.

But one thing has changed - our practical circumstances. Unlike in Rockwell's day, the baby boomers are too old for combat. Hell, even their children are too old for combat. This generation is the smallest white one yet, both as a percentage and as an absolute - and as an absolute it is frighteningly small. Today we face even more threats - our enemies have become even more accepted, and any institution we once had a stake in has been undermined to no end.

In the face of that, and the relative rarity of white youths, I just don't think it's socially optimal to glorify "heroic deaths" in the way that we used to. It'll probably just lead to more lone wolf-style terror attacks like what we saw with dylan storm roof, and more people trying to imitate the Muslim attacks. It just won't be productive.

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>>139434891
>democracy

Who said it would be democracy? We could exclude some peoples from voting based on education level. Or more likely weight their votes - such that the highly educated and wealthy men has 5 votes, a member of the military or civil services has 2 or 3, and so on.

Ultimately we could try to weight it so that each class of society sees a roughly equal stake in the electorate regardless of their variable sizes - no dictatorship of the proles.

(pls rate political framework)

>>139434891
Democracy is good when the people are physically strong, mentally awake. and morally straight.

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>>139435126
>a member of the military or civil services has 2 or 3

>>139435126
Oh and in order to vote you would have to be a member of the national socialist party, which would come with a good bit of education on civics and party doctrine.

>>139434324
I place heavy emphasis on becoming strong. Especially since strength is such a large principle of NatSoc, it only makes sense for those who believe in it to be strong themselves. The strength of our race cannot just be our resolve. We must have strength of body and mind. It will also improve how we are perceived by those outside of our movement. A group of high achieving individuals practicing National Socialism will look much better than those who are lazy.

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>>139434905
>This generation is the smallest white one yet, both as a percentage and as an absolute
Smaller than the Weimar generation? That's the sharp downward dip in this graph around 1915:

>>139434800
yes and no, we are actually one of the most homogeneous societies since we have occupied the same land for 200 years. We are not white in the way you understand being white/european, since we have the spanish siesta, the italian pasta, but the native mate and some african music as a popular cultural expression. Over all to answer your question, Montevideo could be considered white from a racial point of view, but there is a 20% of the population with native ascendance. That means, we look white have a whitish culture and a society modeled in european values, still I wouldn't consider us a "white" country in the sense you do

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>>139435126
>>139435270
This also ties in to another question I have:
>How does a NatSoc government protect itself from corruption?

>>139435603
I'm not sure if this post is clear, didn't wanted to give a meme answer

>>139433053
Interesting; none of the fascist societies outlasted their first leader. I guess you'd use your cultural norm: >>139434070 sure sounds like Hitler was re-hashing the old electoral system from the Holy Roman Empire.

>>139435686
Makes enough sense.

>>139434800
Fake and gay
>>139432622
Sieg Heil

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>>139435667
>How does a NatSoc government protect itself from corruption?
With cadre of elite fanatical adherents to the state philosophy charged with internal security.

>>139435834
You could retain the same democratic institutions but restrict citizenship similar to the founding of the US.

>>139435476
Not sure where the white birth rate is right now - pretty sure it's been below 2 for a good while now, unlike that brief spike.

>>139435667
Ultimately, the answer is that we don't know, as the Third Reich wasn't around long enough for such problems to arise.

There are several things we'd be likely to do. One can ensure a strong cultural prejudice against it using the party structure and the education systems, which can do wonders when under total control. But there's only so much you can do there.

Ultimately, the American FBI has been doing well for the past few decades, and largely no thanks to legislative activity. We might find that the answer is to create a strong, independent police force. They might become corrupt on their own though - but the FBI hasn't been corrupt in a long while - but the FBI never had the independence we nazis might give to them - etc, etc.

Ultimately, we can't know what the solution to a problem is until we see the exact shape of it. And we don't know what exact form corruption or attempted corruption may take in a NatSoc America.

>>139435667
unfortunately corruption is inherent to all forms of goverment, but with a strong nationalistic education, plus placing emphasis on the greater good of the people, corrupted officials will be less common. making an example out of them would work too

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>be liberal
>be sympathetic to the causes of minorities but have enough of my own personal shit to deal with to be active in their causes. bills to pay, etc.
>be told over and over that I'm racist, ____phobic, and I should feel guilty for everything my ancestors did, even though I didn't do anything personally
>be told I'm not allowed to be proud of my race
>be told I'm racist but you can't be racist against white people because reasons.
>voice my agreement with them but it doesn't help and they just make me feel worse
>they don't stop making me feel as bad as possible
>slowly start to realize I don't like hating myself because I have enough problems in my own life.
>slowly start to realize that they have made me forget that white people have been instrumental in almost all advances in all fields
>slowly start to realize why nations with majority white people are the only nations where diversity is pushed.
>slowly start to become nationalistic because of how they treated me
>mfw I've become exactly what they always told me I was even though I was once sympathetic.

>>139435667
Strong leadership and a loyal following. Corruption should be equated to treason, and punished as such

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>>139436133
>>139436193
Everyone's knee-jerk reaction to large government is the idea of an all-powerful, selfish, ruler who will expend the resources of his country for his own pleasure. Would there be any checks/ balances in a NatSoc government to oust such a leader?

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>>139436133
We've all been below replacement rates for several decades now, as the leftist hegemony throughout our institutions spread since the birth of the boomers. The only other times comparable to today are the immediate post WWI period where every Western nation experienced a drop in fertility rate post-war.

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>>139432622
anti communism is what america needs

these god damn marxists and fucking "democratic socialists" are some of the most cucked up fucks alive

they give this country a bad name
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcMeoRwC1z8

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>>139432622
The most important thing you can do for the white race is keep your own life in order. Start with yourself. You must be competent, reliable, hardworking, and, above all, happy. Do people in your life trust and respect you? What does your family think of you? Are you capable of raising children? Racial politics doesn't have to be the only factor of your life. And if you can't achieve such things for your self, then the chances are very high that you are not ready to be a political activist, either online or in real life. Because how can you make a difference for the race, for the lives of many, if you can't even make anything of your own, individual life?

Always remember: we live in first world countries and have opportunity that most people born on this planet do not. Things aren't as good for us as they were for our parents. But billions of people in the third world would still kill to have the opportunities that you do right now. So take care of yourself! Work your ass off, every day, to build a good life for you, and for your family. Clear your mind of self destructive thoughts, and keep yourself focused on realistic goals. Work hard, but also do fun and wholesome things with real people in real life. That's very important. Nothing on the internet should ever take away from your real life.

>>139434423
I never said this thread was shit I posted here because it's a regular thread on /pol/

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>>139434800
>Indian

>>139437116
>fake picture
>hit piece
Wew

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>>139436620
"Checks and balances" notoriously don't work in democracies, characterized as they are by extensive networks of patronage and massive bureaucracies with armies of lawyers managing loopholes for wealthy oligarchics That being said, in the German system the judiciary could veto the line of succession of the executive -- obviously natsoc is not dogmatic about any particular legal framework, and each nation or race practicing such a system should make a system that best reflects their tradition of laws and values. Though it takes an overall pessimistic view of democracy, limited democracy need not be seen as degenerate.

https://youtu.be/kzIRG525l6s
https://youtu.be/RQVIeTLqgOw

>German Law and Legislation:
https://archive.org/details/GermanLawAndLegislation

>>139436620
Ideally, yes. We would have several institutions - the party, the legislature, the courts, the military - that could act as that. But it would be more likely that they would act as the "board of directors" to the leader's CEO, to use a corporate analogy. Setting the long-term agenda, but not quabbling over minutae - they let the leader lead.

Of course, the abuses of ceos are very well-known, there are books on the topic. But sometimes, the system can be made to work.

Ultimately, the trick is to balance division of power, to prevent abuses, with unification of power, to allow for its efficient and effective exercising. That is probably so great of a task that if you were to solve it, they would invent a nobel prize for political science just to give it to you.

Ultimately, I'll have to give you another somewhat wishy-washy answer - we don't know what exact form it'll take. Institutions would have to be somewhat skeptical of a leader's directives (certainly they must rebel if he blatantly uses a nation's resources for vacations and mansions!), but also trusting enough to allow him to lead. They would have to hold fast to their own charges, but also be flexible for the sake of the nation as a whole. What form will that take? God only knows.

Also thanks for the cute grills.

>>139437081
ah, my bad then.

>>139436972
based tombler

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>Viktor Suvarov - Who started the 2nd World War?
https://youtu.be/SbBnRZoTHFs
>Hitler's War - the Allies caused the war
http://youtu.be/MejbBsSAP8I
>Stalin's plans to invade Europe, proving Hitler's invasion of Russia was preemptive:
https://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/articles/stalwarplans.html
>See also: "The Chief Culprit" by Victor Suvarov in the ebooks archive:
https://mega.nz/#F!B4dB2SzQ!h_pMC30v2a_y31iD0dy0sg!o0Uk3KTJ

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>>139437260
>fake
web search it

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>>139438072
Those iq stats are quite fake, it has been a known fact for quite some time

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>>139436620
I'm still looking into this, but in ancient europe, tribes would often choose their king, who was always at the mercy of the assembly of free men. He would make decisions, but the free men would have final say if they disapproved.

The thing is that being a free man back then meant quite a bit of responsibility for and investment into one's tribe. Being an outlaw or exile back then was terrible, and if one was exiled due to a murder, the victim and his family had a free pass to kill the exile during his time out of the tribe's protection.

Ultimately, the culture and law have to rest with the people to some extent. Even Aristotle's advice of enshrining the law in a constitution isn't foolproof (and he and his fellow Greeks understood that). It requires a people willing to live by the philosophy set out.

If your people is sick and dying in virtue and spirit, then there must be a movement to sway them back to the proper path.

Let the conversations be in public and in good faith, so that the people can know exactly why they should live the way that they do. The only problem with this is that many people are too stupid to grasp this principle and want to seek easy comfort even if it is a fiction.

It's a really tough issue and part of the problem is that we live in such huge units now that you can't just have many tribes do whatever they want and let natural selection weed out degeneracy.

The ancient greeks dealt with this issue by promoting freedom of thought as long as it was within the cultural and moral bounds of the state. Socrates' philosophy actually comes to the conclusion that the morals and laws of athens are indeed good, but the fact that he questioned them left him open for politicians whom he embarrassed publicly to use his death as a way to relieve pressure after athens lost against sparta.

This is a bit of a disorganized, insufficient response, but I hope it means something to you.

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>>139432622

If you don't already you should be using 'controlled opposition' because that just means a higher dedication to the race. We have to remember to make this one time to advance our race work because if we don't we might not have many years until we can try again. If we don't get this we have several generations of race mixing before our progenitors figure it out. I think it's a direct path but after recent events it's been brought to our attention how many enemies above we have. We can't jack this up.

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>>139437306
>>139437335
>>139438538
I appreciate the well-thought-out responses. My biggest gripe with NatSoc is that I can never find good answers to some of these basic questions. Would anyone recommend any good books on the topic? Maybe some kind of NatSoc 101 that's less to do with praising/ damning the system and more to do with actually explaining how it would work?

>>139439236
On some level, every question you ask is uinque, and hasn't been asked before. It's never really easy to find answers to questions that you yourself haven't asked.

On the flip side, there are some books that try to provide NatSoc answers to an American context (This Time the World and White Power fukken read them), but most of those are written by NatSoc idealogues and praise the system to an extent. National socialism is pretty hard to be neutral on!

Side note on your image, is RWBY any good? Heard good things, but still hard to believe some assholes in texas (Mean that in the most charitable possible way) could make a good animu.

>>139439236
Nazi sozi

>>139439535
if you can tolerate the cringe barrage of s1, it's good.

>>139440153
Cringe as in bad writing or cringe as in second-hand embarrassment getting out of control (which has made me skip like half the content of the animus I watch)?

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>>139438538
pic related, the original nobility was a class of men who devoted their lives to martial perfection, the mastery of cultural forms, and the search for philosophical truth (this last bit was emphasized sometimes more, sometimes less by individuals, more, especially, if they were to lead their people). Only people who did this were nobility. The best man of this sort in the eyes of the tribe would be king, and they would replace him shortly (possibly killing him in the process if he committed some crime against the people) if he faltered (leaving room for old, very wise kings, who were quite valued, as one might suspect).

I think that there are many parallels with the old model of free men around their king and the national socialist model, which tries to bring back selective pressures for health physical, mental, and spiritual.

>>139439236
Well, I didn't consume any nazi theory before I got into it. Reading history and philosophy (specifically The Republic and Politics, moving from a theory of perfection that Plato acknowledges as not existing in our world to a more grounded vision in Politics). Germania, "the most dangerous book in the world", is great. Looking into the reasons as to WHY ancient historians wrote what they did, WHY they structured their entertainment, religion, and culture as a whole the way they did, is critical. I salute people who can rattle off philosophers who influenced the rise of national socialism and understand them (I'd like to some day), but lots of reflection of what I have learned of the world has brought me to where I am now.

Old stories like Beowulf, the Iliad, the list goes on and on.

I would like to start by saying that I'm well aware of the evils of Jewry and that the holocaust never happened. I don't agree with everything Hitler did but he was a great man that genuinely cared for his people.

I just can't see NatSoc becoming a thing. It's not because of the nationalism. I'm fine with that. Its because of the Socialism and centralization of power. Not everyone in power is going to be like Hitler who loved his people. Time has also proven that Socialism is shit.

In order for anything to work you have to fix the culture. I get that the nationalism component is a way to solve that issue but I feel like Objectivism is a stronger and more coherent philosophy.

Buy first do the basics:
get people to understand that all forms of faggotry are mental illness. Segregate prostitutes and drug addicts to red light districts while teaching people that these things harm the individual rather than help.

Teach people critical thinking skills and allow them to see things from different sides not just NatSoc. People have a right to decide for themselves whether NatSoc is right or a more non-authoritarian ideology is better.

Echo chambers degrade the mind but a little leaven leavens the whole lump. There has to be a balance.

Although I'm more awake than others I doubt that I'd ever work with a NatSoc simply because they'd hate me because of my mixed heritage. My family is Cuban. 80+% European. 1/8 filipino and tiny bit Jewish (supposedly never been tested).

I'm also a conservative Christian. I can't see myself associating with people that worship Thor.

I think that the only way to get shit done is to worth together. Jews Muslims and faggots are America's greatest enemy.

Socialism is a Jewish idea. Free market capitalism is a superior system.

>>139440367
mostly just bad voice acting, bad animation. it honestly got better when the show creator died, as bad as that sounds.

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>>139439236
>Maybe some kind of NatSoc 101
"Hitler's Revolution' by Tedor to understand the rise and intentions of the movement, 'Race in the 3rd Reich' by Hutton to dispel myths about Natsoc racialism, 'Mussolini's Intellectuals' to understand NS/Facism and the 3rd Position in general, works by Suvarov (Chief Culrpit) and Gerd Schulze-Ronhoff (War with Many Fathers) to understand what led to the war, what Hitler did to avoid it, why he switched to an aggressive stance after years of failed diplomacy, and other obscured-but-provable facts of history. Then finally, rely on the Holocaust Handbooks series to understand the Holohoax:

https://archive.org/details/HitlersRevolutionIdeologySocialProgramsForeignAffairsRichardTedor
>Holocaust forensics handbooks series
http://holocausthandbooks.com/dl/HHS-pdf.zip
Kindle:
http://holocausthandbooks.com/dl/HHS-kindle.zip
>Harold Covington: Common questions and answers
https://youtu.be/zeqsiR4HVCA
>Germar Rudolf exposes Auschwitz's Curated Lies
https://youtu.be/PSYJBVvyP08
>The First Holocaust : The Surprising Origin of the Six-Million Figure
https://youtu.be/yBnMtkbWPCs

>>139432622
I'm related to Konstantin Rokossovsky and Putin might be taken away from this term. Maybe I'll get to put muh nose into some archives and get some light on soap shoah industry

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>>139440846
>It's not because of the nationalism. I'm fine with that. Its because of the Socialism and centralization of power. Not everyone in power is going to be like Hitler who loved his people. Time has also proven that Socialism is shit.
In Natsoc, "socialism" = "nationalism". Do the work to learn about the philosophy, stop just repeating misinformation.

>>139440846
i dont know how you imagine a natsoc society but from what i have seen for natsoc to work we would need political correctness.

>>139440846
Ultimately the thing about "dude just deny them access to the educational system, media, and they'll all die off lmao" is that they'll do everything within their power to develop a counterculture, and a way of getting around your blocks on them. Sure you can fight back, and maybe even win your culture war - but within our way of doing things, no such culture war arises in the first place.

And as far as centralization is concerned? So long as it's centralized around a clique and not an individual, it should work. China will likely provide a good model for this.

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>>139440917
cyka no

by my babuska it's like bloody sunday all over again

>>139441007
I came to the thread to learn. Why would "Socialism" be in the name if you're not redistributing wealth?

"Nationalizing" an industry is extremely socialist an leads to poor standards due to no market competition.

I mean, didn't Nazi Germany have extremely high taxes to prop up all these nationalized businesses? didn't they have a massive welfare state? How are Nazis NOT socialists in the economic sense of the word?

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>>139441636
I'm going to have to reply to this multiple times because you've made so many errors

Please only reply when I am done thanks

>nationalized businesses

pic related, you are wrong, hitler privatized most stuff

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>>139440463
The other thing to weigh is the risk of corruption and failure in an NS state and in a modern western democracy. The founding fathers had a radical vision for this country, again more in line with the ancient model of armed, morally upright free men being able to stand up for their people (stop me if bias is blinding me to a contrary truth, haha) and would be appalled at what the country has become.
Eventually you start weighing the long-term impact (generations, even hundreds of years out) of the systems, but lose sight of the fact that individual institutions themselves may rise and fall, but the truth remains the truth.
>>139440846
see >>139441007
and see pic related, an attempt to somehow BTFO nazis that completely backfires when you read the title.
>>139441100
And this is how almost all societies worked for almost all of human history. The Greeks? Incredibly devout, incredibly focused on keeping their morals enforced and taught to their children. The US originally only allowed people to come in who were free white people of good moral character and oh yes the constitution was written for a society of people (and THEIR posterity) who had very specific ideas of what was allowable in society. Right or wrong, that's how the world seems to work. If you think we should drop that model (I am in favor of a relatively relaxed version at the moment), do explain.

Adolf Hitler 1933: We Want Nothing But Peace!
https://youtube.com/watch?v=CF-rNvYs70Q

Adolf Hitler: A Last Appeal to Reason
https://youtube.com/watch?v=1RfwBR_hcG8

Adolf Hitler: Man of Peace?
http://tomatobubble.com/id570.html
https://archive.is/pwXRM

Adolf Hitler: Response to Churchill's Push for War
https://youtube.com/watch?v=POh-pwEPesA

Adolf Hitler's Struggle for Peace
https://youtube.com/watch?v=GArKAjazAGA

Adolf Hitler Wanted Peace and an Alliance with England
https://youtube.com/watch?v=MHT-3dpV-so

Hitler's Appeal for Peace and Call to Reason to Prevent World War II in 1939
https://youtube.com/watch?v=HAV1_bol2BM

What the World Rejected: Hitler's Peace Offers 1933-1939
https://wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/nothanks/wwr00.html
https://archive.is/xYqRs

How World War II Came About
http://heretical.com/mkilliam/wwii.html
https://archive.is/eh2S1

The Jewish Hand in the World Wars
https://inconvenienthistory.com/5/2/3209
https://archive.is/B7hr3
https://inconvenienthistory.com/6/2/3294
https://archive.is/91wv3

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>>139441636
>why would socialism be in the name

pic related.

Socialism is honestly a meme word at this point, just like conservative. Every single person on the planet has a different definition.

For us, it largely refers to keynesian spending and social coordination - the latter referring to job assistance programs and the production of subsidies.

Our socialism is not of the nordics or the soviets.

Anyways that actually took less images than I thought it would. But also you're probably wrong about taxes but it's 2 am and I can't be assed to find the relevant image, pardon my french.

>>139441386
After his death, somehow, in less than 10 minutes unifromless cucks came into the house and started to take away random personal belongings, notebooks, photographs, searching all over for several hours and then left with his stuff and working table. They didn't give back those things ever since. Best thing we have related to the war from him are watches from Britain, Germany and other small souvenirs. We used to think that everybody who fought in the war was heroic and all, but looking at Russia now many of former "Soviet aristocracy" understand that the Red army should have use those rifles against those in the Kremlin

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>>139441636
>Why would "Socialism" be in the name if you're not redistributing wealth?
Because historically "socialism" was a word used by many different and often contradictory philosophies; because the Marxist-Leninist Left won the war and defeated all rivals, you get taught that "socialism" means Marxist Socialism, that there is only one-dimension on the political spectrums, ie, "the authoritarian statist left, and the freedumb anti-statist right". This is why if you don't read books written by the people behind these movements in history, you become like the proles in Orwell's 1984. Natsocs literally invented the term "privatize", read the pastebin.

>>139441916
i think you might have misunderstood me. i am in favor of political correctness.

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卐 - BOOKS (2)
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>Politically Incorrect Books Archive:
http://mega.nz/#F!B4dB2SzQ!h_pMC30v2a_y31iD0dy0sg
>Collection of Waffen SS and Military ebooks (in progress)
https://mega.nz/#F!ilFS1AAT!VdXpBbfNlc2dQC5oNvsS-A
Pamphlets published in English by the NSDAP explaining aspects of the German system.
>Social Welfare in Germany:
https://archive.org/details/SocialWelfareInGermany
>German Youth in a Changing World:
https://archive.org/details/GermanYouthInAChangingWorld
>German Economic Policy:
https://archive.org/details/GermanEconomicPolcy
>German Law and Legislation:
https://archive.org/details/GermanLawAndLegislation
>German Education Today:
https://archive.org/details/GermanEducationToday
>German Labour Service:
https://archive.org/details/FermanLabourServise
>The New Order - Collateral Reading
http://pastebin.com/za2P7xX9
>Tomislav Sunic - Art in the Third Reich: 1933-1945
http://archive.org/details/ArtInTheThirdReich19331945
>The Triumph of Reason - The Thinking Man's Adolf Hitler by Michael Walsh
http://archive.org/details/TheTriumphOfReason-TheThinkingMansAdolfHitler
>Arthur Bryant - Unfinished Victory (1940)
>Prominent British historian writes a fairly objective prehistory of WWII
http://archive.org/details/ArthurBryantUnfinishedVictory1940V1
>William Joyce – Twilight Over England
>Twilight Over England compared the evils of Jewish-dominated capitalist Britain with the successes of National Socialist Germany.
http://archive.org/details/WilliamJoyceTwilightOverEngland
>Jewish Domination Of Weimar Germany 1919-1932, Eckart-Verlag
http://archive.org/details/JewishDominationOfWeimarGermany1919-1932
>Arthur Pillans Laurie - The Case for Germany: A Study of Modern Germany
>a view of National-Socialist Germany by a Scottish scholar inside Hitler's Third Reich.
http://archive.org/details/TheCaseForGermany
>Leon Degrelle - Campaign in Russia: the Waffen SS on the Eastern Front
http://germanvictims.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Campaign-in-Russia-Leon-Degrelle.pdf

>>139441916
Saved that shit. Funny that they didn't even know he was fired.

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>Oswald Spengler - Prussianism and Socialism
https://archive.is/Kt6UF
>Alfred Rosenberg's Criticism of Spengler
https://archive.org/download/AlfredRosenbergsCriticismOfOswaldSpengler/RosenbergCriticismOfSpengler.pdf
>Karl Marx - A Critique of the German Ideology
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/download/Marx_The_German_Ideology.pdf
>Martin Heidegger - Ponderings Books II–VI
https://archive.org/details/martin-heidegger-ponderings-iivi-black-notebooks-1931-1938
>Adolf Hitler - Mein Kampf (English)
Ford: http://nationalactionlondon.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/adolf-hitler-mein-kampf-ford-translation.pdf
Stalag: http://endchan.xyz/.media/a18332e643d7cb83515627b693496fc0-applicationpdf
Kindle: http://my.mixtape.moe/ktzprb.azw3
EPUB: http://my.mixtape.moe/uucnjk.epub
>Adolf Hitler - Mein Kampf (Deutsch)
http://archive.org/details/Hitler-Adolf-Mein-Kampf
>Adolf Hitler - The Words of Adolf Hitler
http://archive.org/details/WordsOfHitler_201307
>Adolf Ehrt - Communism in Germany
http://archive.org/details/CommunismInGermany
>Gottfried Feder - The Program Of The NSDAP The National Socialist Workers' Party And Its General Conceptions
http://archive.org/details/GottfriedFeder_TheProgramOfTheNSDAP
>Gottfried Feder - Das Programm der NSDAP (Deutsch)
http://archive.org/details/Feder-Gottfried-Das-Programm-der-NSDAP
>Gottfried Feder - Manifesto For The Abolition Of Interest Slavery
http://archive.org/details/GottfriedFederManifestoForTheAbolitionOfInterestSlavery1919
>Gottfried Feder The German State On A National And Socialist Foundation
http://archive.org/details/GottfriedFederTheGermanStateOnANationalAndSocialistFoundation
>James Mason - 'Siege'
http://laraj.ca/AGwiki/uploads/Fascism/America/James%20Mason%20-%20Siege.pdf
>ORIGINAL National Socialist speeches and essays (archives)
http://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/pre1933.htm
http://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/ww2era.htm#Material

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>>139442474
It would appear that I incorrectly assumed your stance :^)

Nevertheless, anyone who wants to talk about such topics should feel free to jump in. This has been yet another most excellent NSG.
>>139442673
Usual leftypol shit. Can't meme, can't argue without being dishonest. At least they help us to do more research and think through our ideas.

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>>139441916
>>139442673
>the MEFO bill "fraud" meme
That image is bullshit. You can only push that Austrian Lolberg lie about the Natsocs if you rely on the ignorance of most people about Keyneseanism: there is never "debt free" in any economy, there is either "shrinking debt as a % of GDP", ie, the nominalization of debt into meaningless proportions compared to the economy, or their is a contraction of GDP until debt becomes crippling. Natsoc represented the former, but most people don't have the IQ for economics, so lolbergs have an edge with that kind of misinformation. We can't rely on people to be smart enough to understand "debt to GDP" ratios.

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>>139442957
As if I needed more proof that I know nothing about economics.

Can you explain how it works in the US system? We seem to definitely be building debt all the time but our economy grows.

>>139442957
What happened between 31and 32?
Why did the ratio decrease so much?

>>139443242
GDP growth is slower than it's ever been and the fed knows it's all based on another bubble, which is why it dragged its feet on raising the interest rates so much.

Further, a good deal of our debt is owed to our government itself. The government pays departments too much but departments don't want to pay them back so their budget isn't reduced. Where do they invest it? In the most stable possible place - federal bonds. It's really fuckin' stupid.

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>>139443242
Ok here's a rundown on the "debt driving war machine" meme:
>Shill meme - "Germany had to go to war to deal with its crushing debts"
Reply:
>As you can see from https://i.4cdn.org/pol/1503986396324.png their debt as a % of GDP was declining all up to 1939 -- there was no "debt driving them to war", in fact, the opposite.
Shill reply:
>You can have a high GDP and a high national debt at the same time. They are two separate things.
Again, debt as a percent of GDP is significant, especially in a Keynsean framework: if GDP grows such that debt is a tiny percentage, the debt is meaningless. Either way, it can't be a motive for war while the GDP is growing, and the debt as percent of GDP is low / shrinking. This is because deficit spending is positively correlated with GDP. Its a purely theoretical / speculative argument that their economy would have collapsed without war spending, since there's no empirical data (the country was destroyed).
>inb4 "German war machine required constant war"
Their GDP was growing regardless of whether they were actually at war or not, because a military industrial complex (military spending) doesn't require actual war. The US and many other nations today take advantage of this, and spend of their military despite not "being at war".
>inb4 "German military spending was unsustainable"
>German GDP in Billions of Dollars:
>1938 - 351
>1939 - 384
>1940 - 387
>1941 - 412
>1942 - 417
>1943 - 426
>1944 - 437
>1945 - 310
As far as millitary spending, Germany barely broke the US threshold of 40% of GDP, the entire duration of the war, and spent LESS THAN THEIR RIVALS in preparation building up to war:
>CHART 9 - spending as percent of Germany GDP:
>1935: 8%
>1936: 13%
>1937: 13%
>1938: 17%
>1939: 23%
http://voxeu.org/article/macroeconomics-germany-forgotten-lesson-hjalmar-schacht
http://www.nber.org/chapters/c9480.pdf
http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/nazi-germany/nazi-germany-military-expenditure/
>>139443416
Natsoc came to power.

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>>139443521
>>139443543
Wow, thank you for the information. It's high time that I went to bed. I'll be sure to check for more posts later.

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Also, inb4 the "natsocs didn't really achieve full employment, because they cheated by removing Jews and women from the workforce" meme:
>jews were less than 1% of the population of Germany at 500,000 so meaningless to "remove" them
>women in the workforce only dropped by 10% during the 12 years of NSDAP rule, and went up slightly toward the end as more men were sent to the front

inb4 "MEFO bulls were fraudulent" meme:
>what is fraudulent about them, as lolbergs claim, is that the terms of the Treaty of Versaille prohibited the issuance of certain types of bonds, so Schact creating "private companies" to issue government bonds from was fraud
>bonds are not themselves fraudulent, governments use them all the time
>the terms of the Treaty of Versaille were white genocide against the Germans

>>139438643
>tfw dont own a tweed suit

feels uncomfy man

>>139443543
>NatSoc came to power.
Didn't they came to power in early 33? I know Hitler had some struggle to become chancellor but were they in 32 already in a coalition? I'm confusef.

>>139444117
They weren't in full control of policy in the 31-32 period. There were still opposition parties (including communists) in the government.

>>139444050
>TFW you will never be comfied to sleep by your own perfect valkyrie of a woman

feels bad man

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>>139443521
Question for anyone:

Does >>139443521
mean that Trump is right that we should spend money while we still have the power to do so, before a likely debt renegotiation/reset, since the system is so big that it has to run even if it means another crash?

>>139444333
Have you seen 'Princes of the Yen' yet?

https://youtu.be/V_IYBF2XD30
https://youtu.be/p5Ac7ap_MAY

>>139444333
First, checked.

Second, depends what it's on. The calamity that would ensue in the fiscal collapse of the United States would hopefully concur with the calamity of our takeover.

Before then, we should try and spend our own money as a people through collective action on our own institutions. The federal government probably can't be trusted to spend money on anything besides the military and welfare. They'll never have the commitment needed to put trillions of dollars to work on infrastructure or subsidies. Guaranteed.

>>139444518
I haven't, will take a look.
>>139444605
I meant in terms of US gov't spending, though that's another good bit of info. He wants to lower taxes and continue spending (while making our spending more efficient). That wouldn't necessarily make sense unless A: there is going to be enough growth to cover for the spending, or B: it doesn't matter anyway, we're going to negotiate down the debt because our partners don't actually want to collect and punish themselves and everyone involved financially with the United States.

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One last bump.

>>139445665
>when the americans all have to go to sleep but the aussies haven't shown up yet

(wake me up)

>>139444333
Better to have more guns, crops and property than less right?

We need speeches at rallies in america like this one
https://youtu.be/8emvBJTdIoY

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>>139445826
Really enjoy these /comfy/ NatSoc threads. I love learning more and more about the ideology. Thanks guys

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bump, getting low on the list

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>>139450187
wrong pic, thats the illegal immigrant that did some shit

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I can't wait until the intellectual community becomes redpilled

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faggots

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>>139451599
wtf I hate Natsoc now, thanks Somali bro

>>139451599
woah, based ancapistani nigger

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Matt heimbach interviewed by Nordfront podcast about Charlottesville, good listen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHcV8kxH78I

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>>139432622
All Leaders report!

Based Redskull reporting in

>>139454531
>this is supposed to be the bad guy
Really makes you think

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>>139455784

>>139455784
Well, in the next page he makes some guy do a suicide bombing.
Except they potrayed the wrong group.

>>139455937
>no goy, YOU'RE the suicide bombers!
Why do I find the premise of the kikes doing a NO U in their propaganda so funny?

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>>139455784
Strawmen from Jewish imaginations are the best:
> group of idiots can't tell the guy with the red demonic face preaching nationalist and xenophobic "bad think" is preaching bad ideas even though he has a red demonic face

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>>139442051
Over a million of them did, together with the entire non-communist slavic world.

>Secret archive reveals how Russia showed huge support for 'Christian crusader' Nazi invaders who had come to fight 'godless communists'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2003413/Soviets-supported-Christian-crusader-Nazis-World-War-II.html

>Russians who fought for National Socialist Germany - Russian Liberation Army
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofgLFvFDjKg

>>139432622
Nice

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Sorry for the late dump but here I am

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>>139456007
I found it.
It's kind of funny because Red Skull would be against that sort of thing if he existed in real life.

>>139456417
>MUH BEATING UP POOR NIGGERS
>IT'S JUST SKIN GOYS
Fucking hell, this propaganda is hilarious

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Bumping until Irminsim is recognized at #1 NatSoc occult ideology.

>>139456241
>>139456308
>>139456382
>>139456463
>>139456546

These are some aesthetics info graphs

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>>139452528
laughing at /nsg/s own blindness.

This describes the radical left as much as it describes the "based" "men" of this general

>>139459853
>no argument
wtf I love Marxism now

>>139456923
logically inconsistent