European =/= White

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This is irrelevant but should be known.

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This is the Hajnal Line.

Everything West of the Hajnal line and not in those exterior pockets are what I would call the West or true Western people. And West = White

>>139420379
Conclusion: white people haven't contributed as much to civilizations.
Roman Empire = Italian people
Greeks = beginning of western culture

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>>139421019
You've included a lot of brown people in there....my line is better and more accurate with thousands of hours spent on examing every single European ethnicity.

>>139421190
Irrelevant subject.

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>>139421413
If the Irish weren't White then why were they allowed into the US en masse when they had White immigration policies?

Romanians are White, they didn't evolve on the Western side of the Hajnal line. Learn to HBD and breeding patterns ffs

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Areas with high human achievement

All West of the Hajnal line.

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>>139420379

>>139420379
Kill yourself.

>>139423036
Having blue eyes is an important indicator of whiteness because the European Neanderthal and the original homo sapians western hunter gatherers of Europe had blue eyes.

>>139423193
obvious diaspora spotted. Balkan or Italian?

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>>139420379
Slavs aren't white either. I would rather have Koreans and Japanese in the White Race instead of Slavs, Greeks, Iberians, Italians, and Balts

>>139420379

I wonder if that has anything to do with them being raided and conquered by Muslim invaders over and over for thousands of years? Hmmm.

>>139423243
>European Neanderthal and the original homo sapians western hunter gatherers of Europe had blue eyes

Explain please

>>139423380
More to do with the amount of control of the Catholic Church in those places and feudalism and it's effect on breeding patterns.

Funny thing is that ancient Iberians had really dark skin but blue eyes. Really makes me think.

>>139420379
>After spending months of autistically examining and comparing hundreds of pictures of peoples from every single European country I've come to the conclusion that all of Western Europe isn't white.

>Many Frenchmen, Germans and Swiss have southern-european facial features and hair color besides skin tone. Excluding the obvious eye coloration these Europeans are wholly southern-european in appearance for the most part.

Dumb leaf
Bad leaf

>>139420379

northeast europeans aren't white either.

op is a slavfag living in canada

>>139423862
Actually I'm a balkanfag, North-east Slavs aren't even Slavic genetically speaking.

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>>139423807
>Argentinian fag
>caring this much

I can see that you feel somewhat hurt about my post? Why? You're not even whiter than the average Greek in comparison.

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>>139420379
>After spending months of autistically examining and comparing hundreds of pictures
After looking at your map I know this to be a lie, because I did exactly what you claim to have done and your conclusion vastly differs from my own.

The biggest issue is you label Slavs as "white".

Your map also makes it out to seem as if Slavs are superior to Mediterraneans when this is blatantly false.

A Slav may have light pigmentation but a robust aurignacoid from Italy (which is much more common in Italy than it is in Eastern Europe) is leagues ahead of the majority of Slavs.

The best of both worlds obviously would be a robust aurignacoid of light pigmentation, you find these in the Nordid phenotypes.

Examining maps I have found that there is something special with populations living bordered on the North Sea, I don't have any name or concept for it but again my ideal would be a Hallstatt Nordid from the East of British Isles (ideally as close to the coast as possible).

pic related is a harmonious and very progressive Hallstatt Nordid male and ancient Hellenic aristocracy of Hallstatt Nordid phenotype.

>>139421019

>italy and spain are white
>east austria and finland aren't white

LUL, that map is shit.

>>139424336
>faggot who goes grand autismo over nonwhiteness due to phenotypical similarities tries to play it cool

No one cares but you, mudshit kike, stay mad

>>139424073
>Balkan
LMAO

>>139423862
tfw baltics are actually the purest untained whites left on earth according to genetic haplogroups

>>139424073
You're not even Canadian. You're just some faceless man living in Toronto. I bet you haven't even been camping. You are desperately looking to belong to a group, but don't. You're just another Toronto refugee with no culture. Go raptors. Hurray for Drake. Go leafs go! Ya you're a white Canadian. Whatever ya say bud.

>>139424073

>balkan slavs are da reel slaves, everyone else is a fake

t. turk/greek/illyrian/arab rapebaby

>>139424595
>being a triggered faggot

Really there's no reason for you to be upset and autistic here Indio.

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>>139420379
i don't think that's a very scientific inquiry. Also And all of those countries you say are not white do have indo european ancestry. In fact, all Europeans have a mixture of 3 different ancient groups- Yamnaya steppe people(indo europeans), Neolithic farmers from the near east (who who were first or one of the first to develop white skin to deal with lack of vitimin d), and the native western hunter gatherers. However, from a cultural/linguistic standpoint, it's almost all of Europe is indo europeans- Germanic, Celtic, italic, greek, slavic, albanian- are all rooted in an indo european language. Persian and Indian languages also trace back to them.

>>139424808
I never said I was white you brown chink, in fact my original post implies I'm not. Jesus you're a retard.

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>>139424073
Hello my fellow browny brother.

>>139424859
I am white according to your chart
Either defend your point or blow in the wind you spastic.

>>139424907
So what if those non-white countries are Indo-European? Armenia and Iran are both Indo-European and both non white and non European.

I've compared thousands of pictures of every single ethnic group I've combined over a nearly year long process. I think my conclusion holds more merit than yours frankly.

>>139425148
Argentinians are the definition of non-white. You aren't even European, Indio admixture is within you is likely 5-10%.

You = Mongrel

>>139425000
So do you live with your entire family in a cramped don mills apartment? Are you posting from the Tim Hortons across the street having some me time?

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>>139420379
>slovenia
>not white
Leafs are retarded

>>139424609

N1c is a mongoloid haplogroup you retard

>>139423243
Nigel is not white because I'm a faggot who spent months looking at strangers faces without any study about ethnicities whatsoever and now I'm capable of judging everybodies ethnicity

Stop looking at pictures and study about europe nigger

>>139425187
Well in Iran's case and in India's case there were already people there when indo europeans migrated, and over time they mixed, and of course underwent a different evolutionary process than in Europe. They also lack neolithic farmer ancentry as well as western hunter gatherer ancestry. So they only have 1 of the 3 ancient peoples that make up today's white people. So that explains why most of them look very different, but occasionally some will look very white.

>>139425385
I live by myself and not in that area, why is that relevant to this discussion?

>>139420379
Yeah i see that too.

Anyone that doesn't sees it, it's just lying to the internet and that's not ok.

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typical northeast european

>>139425351
>populations are 100% homogeneous

So you're 15% chink and mud, good to know

>>139425505
You just pulled that from your ass. Btw Iranians have more neolithic Farmer ancestry than any European.

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>>139420379
fixed

>>139425723
>fixed
Obviously broken now.

>>139425559
Did you do a 2 year computer course at Seneca college? It's relevant because you are a 1 dimensional stereotype in the eyes of actual Canadians. I'm giving you perspective.

>>139425723
>

>>139425475
I've read numerous genetic studies on Europe and they all reinforce my case.

>>139425676
Still being a triggered faggot castizo?

>>139425842
A leaf

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>>139420379
Sounds fine by me mate, I don't care much about people outside the South.

>>139423720
I like our west-med phenotype a lot, it's the one I'm really attracted to.

>>139425723
>muh north
No.

>>139425698
Not an argument

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2016/07/worlds-first-farmers-were-surprisingly-diverse

"But the ancient Iranian DNA was dramatically different from that of the western Anatolian farmers. The two groups of farmers, who lived about 2000 kilometers and 2000 years apart, must have descended from completely different groups of hunter-gatherers who separated 46,000 to 77,000 years ago, Burger says.

A similar genetic disjunction appears in a study led by Harvard University’s David Reich and posted on bioRxiv. This study analyzed ancient DNA from 44 Middle Easterners who lived 14,000 to 3400 years ago, including Natufian hunter-gatherers in Israel, Zagros farmers, and Bronze Age pastoralists in the Eurasian steppe, and compared it with that of 2864 living and ancient people from around the world. By sequencing 1.2 million nucleotides from across each genome, the team found that early farmers of Israel and Jordan (known as the Levant) were genetically distinct from those in the Zagros Mountains, and that both populations were distinct from the western Anatolians who later spread their genes throughout Europe."

>>139426031
When did you get deported anon?

>>139426078
Only see a leaf replying with no arguments, you tell me

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>>139426078
>I've read numerous genetic studies on Europe and they all reinforce my case.

So this is an ideal white person for you and your studies?

>>139426291
No, he has near-eastern facially features also typical of Southern Europeans.

>>139426219
It's not like you had an argument to begin with beside being triggered like the Indio you are.

>>139426151
that doesn't debunk what I said moron.

If you use "white" to refer to anything but skin color you're doing it wrong. It has no real meaning beyond that.

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>>139426380
So she isn't white then?

An old Jewish subversive tactic to use against the anti-Jew movement.

>>139426640
She has typical white features but the eyes maybe indicate Southern European admixture, likely from the Roman era. I'd say she's whiter than a blue eyed Italian though.

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>>139426457
Open those tiny slits you got for eyes.
there is overlap in populations, The europe right above southern europe will exhibit phenotypes commonly found in southern europe. This is the same purity spiral kike argument we've had here since the beginning of /new/.
Read again before you resume your semitic larping

>>139426544
Well now I know you are retarded. You said iran have more the same neolithic farmer ancestry as Europeans, which is false. The farmer that went to Iran were of a different stock. stupid faggit

>>139426159
Hard to take vacations when you are just surviving in a country that you have no roots in eh? Just barely making your rent doing some IT job I assume. You see, the key to Canadiana is having roots in the country and owning land. Something you and your bloodline will never do. Your family should have stayed in the Balkans and worked towards owning a plot of land. You are the fuel driving my family assets up up up. Have fun larping as a WASP.

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>>139421002
WE

>>139426945
WUZ

>>139421002
what is this? only 80% of blacks are black?

>>139420379
what's so great about being snowniggers?

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>>139426868
>calls me a larper
>is a larper

Of course Northern Europe while exhibit phenotypes of Southern Europe but they'll always been in the minority. The majority phenotypes of Southern Europe is near-eastern hence why Southern Europe isn't white. Hence why you'll never be white either.

In addition, Southern Europeans unlike Argentinians will still always be genetically European though.

>>139427044
KAAAAAAANGZ

>>139421190
The groups have moved around a lot over time. For example, italians used to be much more white but the moores invaded and injected their dna everywhere there. Many wars have led to many rapes and foreign occupations which have changed genetic makeups.

>>139427101
I've never implied being a snow NIGGER or white is great in any way. People here are massively triggered that they aren't considered white, sad.

>>139427203
>For example, italians used to be much more white
source?

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>>139424591
Look up the Hajnal line, Western European marriage patterns, affects on breeding patterns brought about by the Catholic Church and feudalism before you talk shit.

>>139426936
What family assets do you have? I live fairly well than most of the chink diaspora poorfags here.

You live in a country poorer than Moldova. I'm surprised you have internet access, I'm also surprised immigration deported you and allowed pajeet in. Doesn't make sense :0

>>139427358
Tacitus and his excerpts on foreign immigration.

>>139422200
>If the Irish weren't White then why were they allowed into the US en masse when they had White immigration policies?

They were slaves, very profitable slaves, too. So many of their lives were lost, but they and the Chinese immigrants contributed mich blood, sweat, and tears (mostly blood) to the construction of the national railroad system

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>>139427758
>Tacitus and his excerpts on foreign immigration.
Moors didnt arrive until far after tacitus

Romans were already considered a mix race in his time, having a variety of phenotypes compared to the germans which they thought were pure since they were described as having red hair

and if youre into the whole nordic romans

>>139427358
Germans used to be whiter as well, I mean they used to actually be Germanic.

I'm a from the balkans and proud of it. We have just enough color so we don't look like genetically deformed albinos, but not so much to make us niggers.

>>139428062
became less white when agriculture moved into europe?

>>139420379
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0l20Pac9YWM&feature=youtu.be

>>139420379
>Looks at Germany
>Looks at Sweden
>Looks at Great Britain
Cool, then white people really deserve to go extinct and open space for the superior Southern European to thrive again

>>139427179
>The majority phenotypes of Southern Europe is near-eastern hence why Southern Europe isn't white. Hence why you'll never be white either.
You mean eyes and hair color? cosmetic traits don't make race up, it affects everything else and most importantly behavior, but nice try, señor shekelberg.

>Southern Europeans unlike Argentinians will still always be genetically European though.
Argentina is a nation of immigrants, there are plenty of muds here, but being born on argentine soil doesn't magically change your genetics.

>>139428054
Moors were in Italy though at that time, the Romans called everybody from Morroco to Tunisia as Moors.

Tacitus and others complained of the foreign immigration from Africa and Asia which explains why Italy is fairly dark today. Moorish conquests of the middle-ages did very little damage to the Italian gene pool in comparison to Iberia.

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>>139420379
Canada

>>139428000
The Irish that came in the late 1800s (when the vast majority arrived) weren't slaves or indentured servants.

>>139427352
>People here are massively triggered that they aren't considered white, sad.

that was my question dumbfuck

>>139420379

daily reminder these are shill threads and "white Europe" started in Greece and Italy

>>139428063
>proud of it
There's nothing to be proud of. Are you a [Insert Balkan country] nationalist?

>>139420379
fuck off with your divide and conquer tactics shill

>>139427620
he implied he was on vacation and that it was hard for you to do so. And everything he said about Torontofags is 100% correct

>>139428343
haven't seen anything to confirm what you say

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>>139428840

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>>139428488
daily reminder that "whites" are literally barbarians and had to be civilized by greco-roman culture

>>139429315
so giving up on the tacitus thing? why not post genetic data instead? would be more relevant

>>139429315
Only 11% of the Spanish have Moor genes and they have them in low proportion. The vast majority didn't convert to Christianity and they were EXPELLED alongside ethnic iberians but Muslims. Meanwhile, your president is Trudeau

>>139420379
Sheeiitt, we be white now. Potatoniggers were just a myth, just like leprechauns.

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>>139430052
Genes mirror geography within Europe

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>>139428469
>The Irish that came in the late 1800s (when the vast majority arrived) weren't slaves or indentured servants.

That was because the US finished industrializing herself short of the Civil War and loosened the immigration policies, afterwards. Swarms of Irishmen sought refuge into the country, especially during the Irish Potato Famine, and they were treated like shit for a few generations, before America developed their own concept of "White."

The US was aggressively expanding, inviting more ethnicities, like the Poles, Swedes, and eventually the Italians and Russians. America was growing too fast and needed to import more sources of immigrants to offset the productive possibility, and that was before the "I lift my lamp beside the Golden Door" bullshit.

>leaf

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Protestants = quintessentially white

>>139430378
wonder what benjamin franklin would say about britain and germany now that it got BLACKED

>>139420379
Oh shit I live in the brown part of my country.

>>139428142
After the fall of the Roman Empire.

>>139428588
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0l20Pac9YWM&feature=youtu.be

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>>139429315
That's some bullshit
>the Portuguese government originally planned to forcibly convert or execute Muslims as they had done to Jews, but fear of retaliation from Muslim kingdoms in North Africa led the king to settle on deportations instead
Not even taking into account the fact that the majority of Muslims in the peninsula were iberian converts.

>>139430052
The absolute irony in this though
>get invaded by moors
>kick moors out
>become super power
>2017 AD
>someone on /pol/ calls you a moor
Pottery. The way some anons are so adamant on it would make one think our strength came from the moor genes. /pol/ btfos itself. I'm beginning to believe that at least half the posters here are literal shitskins.

>>139430287
Funny thing is that autosomally Portugal seems closer to N. Italy than Spain. It's weird.

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>>139420379
That is so retarded. This is an obvious bait/D&C thread, but I will still answer. The multiethnic Roman Empire controlled much of the so called "white Europe."

>>139432708
From personal experience, the only people I know who come on here other than myself are not white.