Libertarian Hurricane

>>139419869
Give it a rest. Discounting that everything you just typed is retarded and completely wrong, this was a once in 500 year storm with unprecedented rainfall that is still ongoing.

If this weather system hit NYC, and dumped 40 inches of rain on Manhattan causing 100 billion in damage, would you have typed all that shit?

>>139419869
Build on floodplains/near the coast, win silly prizes

>>139420664
Hurricane Sandy, puny category 1

>>139419869
Yeah, because I live to the north of all of that bullshit.

>>139419869
>that much water

my god

>muh megalopolis
don't care

>>139419869
What sucks now, is that the infrastructure there is now fucked....trucks can't get in there and now food is becoming scarce.....

We live in a house of cards.

People make fun of the preppers, but when the shit starts no one is laughing anymore.....

It's fucking hard to think and prepare apparently.

The government is not to be trusted, no matter what your politics are.

That all being said, why people live in these places is beyond me.......

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>>139420664
They were unprepared and the damage could have been mitigated substantially. The damage would be much less.

>>139423210
prepping just makes you one big target.
The only way is to embrace death when society actually collapses. When the nukes fly don't try to hide, get a nice good seat on your roof to watch from.

>>139420664
Funny how around the world, everyone accepts climate change as fact, but only retarded conservatives in America somehow managed to make it into a liberal only issue.

>>139424123
>prepping just makes you one big target.
Dozens of people are offering their resources to volunteer and rescue people in danger. Nobody is targeting anyone.

>>139419869
Houston's lack of building codes did work though. It prevented housing prices from drastically increasing, although the aesthetics did suffer a lot. I've been to Houston, and it has the weirdest layout I've ever seen.

Mansions, McMansions, ghetto apartments, and ghetto homes are all mixed up, you have multiple areas that you can easily mix up with downtown. You have random skyscrapers that are alone, you have skyscrapers beside 1 story buildings, etc.

>>139424842
cajun navy is getting shot at in some nig areas

>>139425335
and if they get those boats you know they gon be vikangs n' sheit.

>>139425335
Dindus gonna dindu, son

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>>139420664
500 year storms are now happening every few years.

Al Gore tried to warn us. Al Gore was right.

is the majority of this flooding freshwater or seawater? aside from the flesh eating bacteria also likely present

>>139425695
There are huge storms somewhere in the world all the time. Theres chink typhoons that nobody in the west even notices.
The 500 year storm saying is only challenged if the same area gets repeated 500 year storms.

There isn't any reasonable infrastructure in existence that would've saved Houston from these floods. The real solution is ending the National Flood Insurance Program so that less people decide to live in flood-prone areas to begin with, but government addicts would never admit that.

>>139426204
>The 500 year storm saying is only challenged if the same area gets repeated 500 year storms.

That's not what is meant by this expression. It means anywhere in the world.

>>139423210
Get off the internet Dale

>>139419869
Fuck cities.

>>139426326
No. It's not.

>>139426237
From a federal/national security standpoint, having these coastal and port cities populated with infrastructure in place is very strategic from a military defense standpoint, and economics since it drives taxable trade and income. It's worth shelling out a few billion every few years.

>>139423542
There's a lot to factor in. In the end, what's created more opportunities for growth for the economy vs the cost for a possible disaster? If regulations don't allow growth and affordable housing, how would the economy be affected nationwide?

>>139426596
Yes. It is.

>>139425701
Fresh/muddy

It is mostly runoff because Houston is designed to flood with 4in of rain. City planers are negligent.

>>139424486
Boy you are some kind of stupid, huh? Pretty much no one in America disputes that climate change exists, the climate has been changing for hundreds and thousands of years. The only things that conservatives maintain which liberals do not are 1) how much humanity is impacting the climate, and 2) what we can reasonably do about it. Most conservatives will freely admit that human plays a role in impacting the climate, the difference is they usually don't think humanity is behind 100% of it as most liberals seem to. The second point, what can we do about it, is really the crux of the issue when it comes to policy: given that we are affecting the climate what can and should we do about it? We could enforce policies which would cripple the US economy in the name of a perceived future danger, while having next to no impact upon the projected rise global temperature due to China and India not following suit. Why wouldn't they follow suit? Because millions of their people would die. In fact, billions of people would die all around the world if every country agreed to transition away from fossil fuels. Fossil fuels power everything and we currently have no viable alternative. Beyond that, it is entirely possible, indeed, I'd even say more likely, that we are not headed toward catastrophe at all. For 1) no model has correctly interpreted the data yet. The models from ten years ago were wildly off, in the 70s everyone thought it would be global cooling that did us in, in the 50s it was overpopulation, the left feeds off of inciting hypothetical future panics that never come to fruition. So it's entirely possible that the models for this data will be disproven in 20 years and we'll be talking about global cooling again. And 2) if the earth is warmer, no one has put forward a cogent argument as to why that will be a bad thing. (1/2)

>>139426959
The term was coined before mass communication and media existed. People didn't hear about far away global natural disasters for most of history.

>>139426326
no you fucking retard, it's the local flood levels with an expected 500 year return period

it's for city planning, why the fuck would they care about what happens in fucking India?

>>139424486
Maybe don't expand your town to ridicules size turning the ground into concrete slabs for water to not drain away? More like faggots using some weather to promote their eco living

>>139427041
Climate change isn't real. Harvey is the first hurricane to hit the US this year and it is mild as fuck. Houston is a piece of garbage and the emergency was entirely preventative.

There is nothing out of the ordinary about the climate.

>>139427284
Lol that's the most retarded explanation ever. We're using the term in the modern day with global mass communication. They don't mean a 500 year storm has to hit the exact same location twice.

>>139426237
They could replant absorbent grasses, require all new houses and buildings to have hurricane straps, storm windows, decentralize the energy grid, and upgrade water drainage systems. This would mitigate the disaster instead of exacerbate it as current practice allows.

>>139423210
>get warned a fuck huge katrina hurricane is coming days in advance
>don't leave
>cry about it

>>139427431
>Category 1 hurricane
>500 year storm
Pick one. Harvey isn't shit. Houston is shit.

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>>139423210
>The government is not to be trusted
I knew the government caused this hurricane

>>139427340
because scientists are looking at global climate you autistic retard

>>139427584
Katrina was way bigger.

>>139427586
Harvey was Cat 4. You retards don't even know what you're talking about.

>>139427681
and that term's got nothing to do with anything global

it's a city planning tool

>>139419869
illegal mexicans BTFO!

>>139427431
Of course they do. In fact, lots of "500 year" storms are like an otherwise standard hurricane hitting an unusual location like Sandy hitting the northeast USA. The whole point is the location.

>>139427041
The earth being warmer means there will be higher sea levels (people will move), greater ocean surface area and greater temperature means greater evaporation and therefore greater rainfall, meaning a warmer and wetter world. A warmer, wetter world is better for humanity as it increases the habitable climate zone, and results in increased crop-productivity meaning we can feed larger amounts of people. Additionally, a warmer, wetter world results in increased plant life, which pulls carbon out of the atmosphere, which in turn should cool the planet. Life on earth, and even humanity itself, has survived far greater temperature extremes than where we are now and where we are projected to go, all this moral posturing and doomsday circle-jerking is unfounded, foolish, and ultimately completely irrelevant. Don't give up your rights or condemn others to death for your own faulty premises and lack of knowledge on a subject.
TL;DR - climate change is a spook, irrelevant at worst and beneficial at best. You are stupid, and should feel bad if you think otherwise.

>>139427746
>Going from tropical storm to cat 4 in 12 hours
Bullshit.

>>139427691
Katrina also didn't directly hit New Orleans and the levy breaking is what caused most of the flooding.

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>>139424486
No global warming on a flat earth. Your answers lie elsewhere

>>139427691
Harvey was still a category 4. Everyone was warned. Only fucking retards are in Houston right now crying for food.

>>139427868
are you u full blown handicapped? it was cat 4 when it hit land

>>139419869
>>outdated infrastructure

'Bout to get renovated then

Red state fuckery

>>139425335
It's because they are disenfranchised.

>>139427402
Climate change is real, just progressing at a far slower rate than all these doomsday projections, to the point that it is essentially irrelevant. Harvey is not a result of climate change and anyone who believes that narrative is a fool.

>>139423210
>live in retardedly dangerous area
>get assblasted when the inevitable happens
>hurr durr we needed to be better prepared guys

yeah, you can start by saving all that money you would've spent on expired army surplus rations and moved the fuck away from flood area

Considering the fact the area hit wasnt under a libertarian system it's just proof that the libertarians have a point that all those regulations really didn't help shit

>>139420839
Sandy didn't do shit. Jersey Shore got BTFO, that's about it. Manhattan itself was operating trains at a slower schedule is all

>>139420664
Literally a gulf of Mexico hurricane

>>139427926
the full eclipse band had like a 200 mile width. the plane is 7 miles up.

>>139427844
The “500-year” flood, explained: why Houston was so underprepared for Hurricane Harvey

It’s the city’s third “500-year” flood in the past three years.

>It’s the city’s third “500-year” flood in the past three years.

https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2017/8/28/16211392/100-500-year-flood-meaning

>It’s the city’s third “500-year” flood in the past three years.

>>139428516

Didnt stop them from crying like it was the end of the world. They pretended like that storm was something special when everyone who actually lives on the gulf coast thought they were whiney cunts

>>139428601
Archive
https://archive.is/G8RuV

>>139428601
See, not global.

>>139428854
3rd 500 in 3 years

>>139428601
climate activist journalists making clickbait

>>139427340
it has nothing to do with city planning retard

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>>139429072
retards who thought pizzagate was real know better

>>139426326
>>139426204

Doesn't matter, the 2015 and 2016 floods were also "500-year". It's the new normal.

>>139428601

It's like you didnt even read the article. The place that flooded 3 times above the cities 500 year floodplain was outside of the citys 500 year floodplain. Therefore the statement is irrelevant. If it's outside the zone in question. Functionally it's no different, saying this level of rain fall and flooding is expected 0.2% in a given year

Why do you trust vox for anything. They took an area outside of the planned zone in question to try and prove their point which is misleading to begin with.

Maybe that area is on a lower elevation and thats why it has higher rates of flooding. It's outside of the flood plain so we wont know. Might as well complain that houstons 500 year prediction is wrong because new Orleans floods

>>139429241
>The place that flooded 3 times above the cities 500 year floodplain was outside of the citys 500 year floodplain.

how retarded are you people

500 year floods are happening every few years

The problem with government is it does things too well. If all the cities are properly designed and none of them get flooded or wiped out or anything then people forget why they needed laws regulating city planning in the first place. We see this happen with vaccines.

Libertarians are the canary in the coal mine whose strangled, choking death rattle is a reminder why we need to wear our gas masks.

>>139429499
who was measuring rain in Houston in 1517

>>139419869
No. That is why you shouldn't shit out kids because some socialists pushed a feed-and-forget program across the world whose excess population corporations have exploited and slapped down in these locations. The authorities of the day selected this area to be developed with government money sustaining it.

Who would give a shit if detroit was flooded?
See what i am implying here?
What is your point?

>>139429796
you are a total and complete retard

read the article dumbass

educate your demented brain

>In theory, a 500-year flood is something that has a 1-in-500 shot of happening in any given year — in other words, the sort of event that’s so rare that it might not make sense to plan around the possibility of it happening. The problem is that 500-year floods are happening more often than probability predicts — especially in Houston. And, especially in Houston, prevention planning hasn’t evolved to acknowledge that a “500-year” flood isn’t really a 1-in-500 chance anymore.

>“500-year” floods are based not on history, but on probability
>The severity of floods tends to get put in terms of years: a 100-year flood, a 500-year flood, a 1,000-year flood. But this isn’t an assessment of “the worst flood in” that time — places like Houston don’t actually have detailed weather records going back to 1017 AD, after all.

https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2017/8/28/16211392/100-500-year-flood-meaning

>>139427769
this guy gets it

>>139424123
Dont forget your shades

>>139430015
theres a thousand climate models that make a thousand predictions. they pick the one that fits their narrative.

>>139425335
>be dindu
>rebel flag airboat picks up some elderly dindu before u
>shoot at boat
>bullets disable boat
> try to steal boat
> repeat

>>139419869
bear in mind illegal immigration costs us 113 billion a year and now we're going to be spending even more to re-house the same illegals

usa is such a fucking brown town now it's disgusting

>>139423210

The roads are pretty well fucked, but there's enough coastal shipping to keep emergency functions working once the weather clears.

Nothing sane could be done to deal with 50+ inches of rain in that short a time.

>>139430387
You're just a retarded shill who doesn't know a fucking thing. You should have drowned in Houston. The world would be a better place.

>>139423210
I don't think white Afghanistan (Appalachia) is very much a house of cards.

>>139419869
>Recovery
Having lived where these Hurricanes come through and seen this shit personally, Yes, it's worth every penny. These storms create land booms. Every single bit of flood infrastructure in these places is designed, built and improved on after a storm. The economy on almost every coastal city is built on tourism or a sea port so rebuilding is a no brainier.

>>139430631
Net cost is ~$99 billion after taking taxes paid into account. It costs more to have homeless people around than housed people, so there would be no financial reason to avoid housing illegal immigrants.

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>>139431972
>poor people
>tax revenue

>>139431528
What is the point in letting people die and having their lives ruined, if the infrastructure is supposed to be improved anyway? Out here in Florida, our building codes are designed against flooding and high wind speeds because it just makes sense when you're flat, at sea level, and get hurricanes often, and we don't get weeks/months long recovery efforts because of it.

>>139432171
Sales and state taxes add up.

>>139420773
kek havea (you)

>>139426326
it's for local area. It's how we account for wildfires as well.

>>139419869

>>139432493
Money, why would a Jew risk or spend his own money?

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>>139419869
beach side property is the most lucrative thing you can own