History is on our side
Who are we and what do we believe?
Antifa is a political movement which opposes fascism, racism, sexism, antisemitism, capitalism and homophobia in direct action.
Everybody bash em up, c'mon
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>>139386424
Fascism has never worked. Give it up you idiots
difference between us and you guys
>>139404374
Be honest you're not helping show them the power of action and start helping whoever whatever is currently in need the flood in Texas has people scrambling for help start getting boats start getting stuff done now
>>139404553
That isn't true. We are trying to stop hate. we don't spread violence
>>139404606
not our problem
>>139404650
Take a look, these are what real men look like. Men of any color fighting against fascism and racism.
>>139404650
>we don't spread violence
>>139404706
How can you call yourself a person who cares if you only seek violence with people who don't care and no compassion for those who are trying to get out that's being part of the Perpetual cycle of hate regardless
Battle of Dunkirk citizens scramble to get boats to get the soldiers home now try to do the same for the citizens
>>139404650
How exactly does attacking people, garnering hatred towards yourself in the process, stop hate?
Serious question, I believe debating you people is the solution, not bullets. Though at this rate, bullets will come.
>Another Antifa thread?
"I need photos of Spider-man!"
Why did you turn against them /pol/?
>>139404374
No. Shoo.
>>139404821
Are you retarded?
>>139404821
How do you associate racism with capitalism? Capitalism built the war machine that fought the Nazis in the first place. Then, the Democrat Socialists like FDR and Eisenhower stopped Churchill from fighting communists.
I am sure the German people hate the communists than the Nazis for oppressing them anyway. Thanks to the Berlin Wall.
>>139404374
Are you really antifas or just larpers?
>>139405064
http://dailycaller.com/2017/07/07/antifa-listed-among-domestic-terrorism-group-by-new-jersey/
>>139404486
who is trying fascism?
no one is. you are fighting a false cause.
America will always be free.
>>139405038
>allies were white supremacist
Churchill was a white dupremacist look it up
>>139405206
no, that would be you guys, the nazi sympethizers
>>139404887
To be apathetic to certain ideologies while doing nothing only strengthens said ideologies.
I'll put this into perspective for you, you'd rather bomb and kill those who follow the Quran because you deem them terrorists. Even though they may or may not believe in the more radical sects, their idleness would surely lead to a sort of sharia law and Islamic domination, with mass genocide of your people.
Now take what I said, and compare it to the right wing and nazis. We're not being violent as you're not being violent towards Islam, we're merely stopping Nazi terrorism and a future that includes genocide
>>139405038
They didn't fight for you, piece of Marxist shit.
Marxism is an ARYAN disease.
That was the Army of the Anglo, moving forward for sweet, sweet, ARYAN BLOOD.
>>139405038
Oh, fuck off, antifag... The left was always against U.S military, they mocked the soldiers into Oblivion, and you turn around, and start caring about them suddently?
>>139405236
Why would any one be for the things I listed in the original post? Of course we sincerely believe it.
>>139405428
There were blacks in the Wehrmacht and Hitler wasn't racist, the holocaust didn't happen
>>139404486
>facism failed every time it was tried
how does a system that literally recovered a nation from the versailles treaty in about 3 year has failed every time?
>chile
facism was never tried in chile
>>139405555
Checked
Wooden doors!
>>139404374
What if I'm both against fascists AND antifa commies?
Get rekt authoritarian scumbags.
>>139405523
What type of music you like mate?
>>139405489
Even if we didn't care about them, you blatantly support the very people they were fighting, while the majority of us support the people they were fighting alongside.
Believe what you want, but don't you ever say you sympathize with the American soldiers who gave their lives to kill jerry over the hill
Hold a rally in middle America...pro tip, you won't. The Alt Left is the new Nazi party in all but name. The only difference is, you guys can't fight, and stick to the coasts in very liberal and regressive cities.
>>139405523
Weird, I feel the same way about Antifa. You'd have to be crazy or retarded to believe they're anything more than paid agitators and terrorists.
>Someone get me photos of Spider-Man!"
>>139405438
We the citizens in the United States haven't had a say in 60yrs
>>139404374
Bump
>>139405664
Why do you support white supremacists?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/not-his-finest-hour-the-dark-side-of-winston-churchill-2118317.html
>>139404374
stop posting this threads
nobody likes them
Its only you trying to be edgy
>>139404650
>we don't spread violence
Bullshit. You faggots attack bystanders for no fucking reason.
>>139405664
>you blatantly support the very people they were fighting
Oh, really? Evidence?
>>139405816
Time for archive
https://archive.is/1zVun
>>139405555
CHECK'D
NIGEL TO THE RESCUE
>>139404374
>History is on our side
I didn't realize the Trudeau Doctrine existed back in 1920's Weimar Germany
>>139404374
>History is on our side
how the fuck is history on your side?
>>139405647
I get my music from /r/music and /r/hiphopheads mostly. sort it by best of all time
>>139404374
3915 west Westcott, Phoenix Az. I own a love WW2 tank.
Bring it you commie faggots. These tracks have not feasted on commie blood in decades.
>>139404374
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQc8ODBHMz4
>>139405816
I support ANGLOSIM.
>>139406003
read Marx
> Antifags eternally btfo
Your movement is over. Go back to your iPads and Starbucks.
>>139406022
LARP confirmed.
>>139405786
The American worker has never had a say. Yet given the chance, if you in particular did have a say, you'd organize the mass extinction of millions of Americans. You're a hypocrite.
>>139405839
See
>>139405438
The communists use social and class warfare to get in power.
TO FIGHT ANTIFA.
BE A PROUD WHITE PERSON.
BE A PROUD HISPANIC PERSON.
BE A PROUD BLACK PERSON.
BE A PROUD JEWISH PERSON.
BE A PROUD NATIVE AMERICAN.
BE A PROUD AMERICAN.
YOU FILL IN THE BLANKS.
>>139405749
Fuck this gay thread. Post spidermans.
>>139404374
ANTIFA is the embodiment of everything racist, sexist, misogynistic, and just plain retarded, you're the Nazi's.
> Socialism for the masses?
> physical violence against political opponents?
> opposing free speech?
> creating a common enemy for the masses?
> propagating a lie for hatred?
> funded by Soros?
>>139406070
lmao. You guys really are a religion huh, READ THE BIBLE-I MEAN MARX!
>>139406110
American workers don't like Antifa.
you're a bunch of meth heads and college kids LARPing on daddy's dime.
>>139404374
>Antifa is a political movement which opposes... capitalism
Lol. "Antifa" only attacks rallies of nationalists/anti-globalists. Antifa is a TOOL of the big corporations. Name me one recent "action" by American antifa that was hostile to corporate interests, or to neoliberal interests.
Seriously; there are hundreds of antrifa in the Bay Area - how often do they shut down fundraisers for neoliberal capitalist politicians like Dianne Feinstein, who lives in San Francisco? How often do they protest shareholder meetings at the big monopolistic tech firms?
Fuck off with your lying rhetoric. You guys are the ULTIMATE capitalists - you actually fight FOR corporations and their interests, not just support them indirectly.
THE GREAT MEME WAR IS NOW.
THE SECOND GREAT MEME WAR!
wud iz andifa?????
andifa iz a bolidigal bowel mobemend widge promodes homoseggs, benis in anus :DDD, gommunizm, aids, and no burgers :DDD in diregd agdion to ur anus :DDD. Dhe original group Andifashy Agdion wuz founded in 30s krautland and wuz dhestroyed by Adolf Bidler :DDD.
why dhe fug :DD are we on /pol/ ????
/pol/ iz an inderned hod pogged for eberyding we obbose dherefor id iz only nadural for us homos to gome here to bring u aidz and benis in anus :DDD.
geep bashing dhe benis :DDDDDDD
>>139406070
>read Marx
U 'avin a giggle, mate? If any of you faggots actually believed Marx's interpretation of history you wouldn't keep trying to artificially bring about the revolution that's supposed to happen organically. Maybe in another century or two the actual working class won't despise you and yer fancy book learnin' and anti-Americanism. But I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you.
>>139404374
soros plz go
>>139406457
>>139406631
>Bro but like, have you read it n shit? my professors really opened my eyes man.
(you)
They deprogram soldiers after they served in the Army and war so they aren't on the streets like psychopaths.
Most of the Alt-Right are very redpilled. Not Nazis at all.
>>139406618
This
>>139406729
Yeah anon. These Antifa are so violent it is scary.
>>139406070
I did it was shit. Reality says it's also shit, see USSR.
>>139406110
Do you even have a job, cuck?
>>139406365
Your view of the American worker is heavily diluted. When you think of a worker, you think of a man running a business from his office, but the true American worker is seldom heard. He has no time to consider politics, and is largely oblivious to the greater forces in play. I know you parrot the same sentiment, but refer to them as normies. If normies knew how deeply capitalism has fucked them over, you'd see a massive revolution the likes that has only been seen before a handful of times. They sit and watch their propaganda news channels, CNN, Fox, MSNBC, and become content with the system. The only time they vote is when they are peer pressured to do so by friends and family. They vote Republican or Democrat, but always vote for the same person regardless of brand.
The largest enemies to the American worker is the manipulators, and their own ignorance which keeps them under the boot of capitalism. I do not hate you, I just wish sometimes that we could somehow come to a compromise, but such things are hardly ever attainable. As such, in order to protect my future, I must act against terrorism.
>>139404374
https://hooktube.com/watch?v=VnZnnkJxoC8
ANTIFA IN AKTION COMRADES
Haha the militant wing of the Democrat Party and corporate media still thinks it's edgy
>>139407266
I am an American blue collar worker dipshit.
You're not popular here, you're seen as a bunch of loons working for George Soros.
We want you to go back to school/doing meth and stop calling us ignorant nazis.
Also Communism is only popular with stupid college kids. The "American worker' likes not starving to death, go figure.
>>139406631
Marx was wrong about the revolution coming naturally. Marx would never have predicted the subversive nature of corporate brainwashing via subliminal messaging and the deliberate actions taken against the common man's nature.
Technology in many ways subverts nature, I believe you could relate
Antifa, the Alt-Right fights for free speech, American values like borders, language, and culture. It does not mean we all support the Nazis or confederate ideology entirely or exclusively. White identity doesn't mean white supremacy. But, if race is an issue with Antifa. Maybe, SOME not all of Antifa should look in the mirror too.
>>139406618
Can i steal, and use it for future Antifa threads?
>>139407679
Yes please do heres a less over the top version
>>139407571
I'm sorry buddy Progressive doesn't follow the standards of constantly maintaining power
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rYWVBs7lfnk
>>139404374
Facists claiming they hate facists
>>139407563
>I am a blue collar worker
As am I. I am an aspiring journeyman electrician. Do not think that your opinion defines the blue collar worker, and do not think of historical authoritarianism as communism, nor as socialism.
I have not attended a university.
I have never done drugs, I believe drugs are firmly against the interests of one's comrades. Although I do agree that the movement does have its uneducated and trendy kids, but so does your movement. I hope the best for you my friend, does your master at least pay you well?
>>139407266
>the trust fund baby with the bachelor's in political science thinks he knows all about the working man
Lol no wonder you fags all idolize Marx. Just like him, you lay around reading all day on someone else's dime and somehow feel uniquely qualified to speak on behalf of people who build shit, operate heavy equipment, and scrub toilets 8-12 hours a day. Fuck off
>>139407977
Which is why progressives are a cancer upon the revolution, as neoconservatives are a cancer in your eyes upon your movement.
>>139407571
>Marx was wrong about the revolution coming naturally
You didn't even begin to build your faggot commie dreamland, but you're already begin to set up your "that wasn't real communism, because Marx didn't wrote about that" bullshit?
Pathetic
>>139404374
HIDE ALL ANTIFA POSTS
SAGE ALL ANTIFA POSTS
IGNORE ALL ANTIFA POSTS
>>139404603
>Antifa
>Chad
HAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>139408135
It does.
Communists are practically nonexistant in blue collar jobs. Maybe 1 out of 50 at most. The reason why is simple, they wash out. They want everything handed to them and blame everyone else for their failures.
Also Donald Trump son. The American worker absolutely despises commies.
>>139408073
nope
>>139408153
Why do you believe me to be some sort of a straw man? I have never even considered such a useless degree as political science. They are the trendy young teens who don't even know what true communism is, they believe it's a fad and nothing else. They believe in a nanny state, which is far from what I wish to achieve
>>139408525
Thanks Assange
>>139404603
>lib left
>heterosexual
that made me kek
Mods are fat faggots
Communists and antifa deserve bullets to their heads
Fuck nazis and facists as well
>>139406075
fuckin hipsters. I swear
>>139408604
yes...
>>139407922
thanks, i downloaded both
>>139404486
And where exactly did communism work?
>>139404374
Alright, Antifa, lemme tell you a story.
I am what you woul call a nazi, I belive in diversity of races but not multiculturalism (every culture has it's own country/continent etc), I opose communism and capitalism equally, I don't hate black/white/asian etc, in fact, there where some people from all these groups in the SS, Hitler belived this (Example, when he met with Perón, a hispanic, they were allies.)
I do not hate gays, just degeneracy, example, promiscuity, public nudity, etc.
I do not hate women, in fact, they can do a pretty good job in society, serving a cause, helping at home, work or the military, just as a man can do it. Hitler also belived this.
However, I am socially and economically a fascist/national socialist, after all I have told you, do you still hate me? Please let's have a civil discussion about this.
>>139408590
I believe the American worker despises the straw man of communism, but not what communism would truly be. They, like myself and you, hate the trust fundy kiddies who would rather live in a nanny state and smoke meth all day than (god forbid) be a productive member of society
>>139408497
Where did you get that sentiment for me saying that Marx was wrong? Marx built the foundations of communism, yes, but largely did not build it complete or in good condition. Marx was a leech who sympathized with the worker, but was not one himself.
tfw several of your #punch a nazi memes are being used in this thread
>>139409155
>what communism would truly be
Jesus Christ, EVERY FUCKING TIME! I hope you are young and will grow up out of this delusions.
>>139404650
One of your guys approached me when I was going out and was really drunk, started talking to me real casual, then baited me with something like "fuck those refugees right?", to which I replied "Sure, fuck those guys". He then pulled a knife on me, started threatening me and telling "you're going to see what we'll do to you" then screamed to his buddies to come. Since I was fucking drunk (and had like 20 cm and 30kg on him) I had the balls to do something I would never do sober, punched the guy in the nose and started running, would have probably been knifed a bunch of times and left there.
You people are insane and far more dangerous than our nazis which are mostly pathetic lowlifes here
>>139408612
Youre the electrician, right? Do you consider it theft that the people whose houses you wire simply give you a paycheck rather than the actual fruits of your labor, which is a house with up-to-code wiring?
Legit question. I see this argument thrown around on leftypol and it seems so stupid that, for example, a guy working at a Ford factory in Detroit is being robbed by Ford because he got a paycheck for screwing in the spark plugs to a new car rather than being paid the entire car in return. Does taking the financial risk of owning the means of production, purchasing the materials and equipment to produce the product, marketing, and shipping not mean anything to you guys?
>>139404374
>>139404374
Antifa can chew the corn out of my shit!
>>139408967
Communism works in America in religious communes like Amish and in monasteries in Europe.
What you have in Yugoslavia and other commie-rules states was socialism. Like fascism It does not work good.
>>139409119
I do not hate you, in fact I agree with you on some things. I just do not agree the social conclusions NatSoc comes to. I also believe in a different kind of economic system. But honestly, if you kept to yourself I wouldn't even think about laying a single finger on you
>>139409174
it's like the best trolling idea /pol/ could ever get. It's just perfect.
>>139404374
sage in all fields
Antifa can't even organize a good general on /pol/
Holy shit why are you newfags bumping these threads. Don't respond. after a few threads of them self bumping they will stop and never post again
>>139408967
communism was never been tried yet
>>139409297
I don't speak of Stalin's communism or Maoism, I speak of a different breed of communism. I speak of one unchained by bureaucratic rule of the elite.
Communism has existed, and was tainted many times. But so was Nazism, yet both had their pros and cons. I don't understand what your bewilderment is
>>139404374
>>139409630
respond all you want as long as you sage
>>139409537
Please tell me, what things do you agree with and what things do you not?
>>139408604
How are they not? They're just like Hitlers brown shirts
>>139404374
>Tfw WWII was the best won fight Antifa had!
FUCK YEA AMERICA
>>139404374
So brave
>>139404374
die cucks SAGE
>>139409119
Yes because your beliefs of segregation and exclusion limit the ability of one to express and associate themselves freely.
>>139409652
A list of nations where communism doesn't work...
https://youtu.be/5pOFKmk7ytU
>>139409928
A few protesters getting rowdy doesn't mean the entire movement stands for it.
>>139409356
I'm not quite sure what you're asking, but I'll try and answer it with my personal opinion.
Just because one owns the means of production does not mean he owns the production itself. Private property can and does exist, you can own your TV or your car or even your own home, but in terms of the tools to produce these things belong to a collective group, think a farming co-op.
Sorry if I misunderstood
>>139409155
Marx's entire inner circle was surrounded by Rothschild Jews. Every "Communist State" is a failure in the sense that in Marx's Manifesto it is stated that there would be no government in a communist utopia and every communist state has been an Orwellian Totalitarian shit hole.
>>139410102
How long are you going to make these threads? Its only you shitposting.
>>139410070
thats an oxymoron, if there is a state or nation then it fails to meet the definition of communism
>>139409537
>I just do not agree the social conclusions NatSoc comes to
As Hitler said "Marx was right in everything except for internationalism". Marx also was a chauvinist and proposed to "ethnic trash like slavs and hungarians" (Feb 1849, Neue Rheinische Zeitung)
I never though I will said that but I actually prefer to share forum with fucking stormfags than converting communists...
>>139410208
It better be shitposting.
>>139409537
Faggot bolshevik.
>>139410066
Which of my beliefs are in the category of exclusion? I just think in a working society there must be some roles for some groups, some fight, some work, some manage the house and educate the youth, what's wrong with it?
>>139410208
As long as it keeps reaching the bump limit
>>139410233
History showed us that if people aren't starving to death it's also not communism
>>139410302
Why do you hate fascists?
>>139404374
One of your comrades got sentenced to 3 years of jail for Hamburg. Your Europe trip is over.
Nuremberg is coming, commies.
http://www.nu.nl/binnenland/4898495/31-maanden-cel-nederlandse-relschopper-g20-top-in-hamburg.html
>>139410233
True there' no government in a communist utopia only the workers so every communist country has already failed in becoming communist.
>>139410272
10/10 English>>139410292
>>139410435
about fucking time
>>139410102
They also assault people who aren't neo nazis. People who just disagree with them is automatically a nazi. Lumping everyone into the same group seems pretty facist to me.
Let's talk about how we can promote fascism.
I suggest we post shares of fascist books. Anyone got any good links?
>>139410483
Unlike some people on this website.
>>139410392
Under communism there is an abundance of food and material good for everyone.
>>139410292
It may be not, those people are autistic in completely different way than we are used to
t.former anarchist
>>139410428
They blame non important problems like race and jews for the worlds problems
>>139410538
The other side does too. A few violent protesters doesn't nullify entire ideologies.
>>139410272
The feeling mutual
>>139404374
You know the origin of Antifaschistche, right? They were a group of German Communists in 1930 that so diametrically opposed Nazi Germany they organized riots. Guess what, they've always been awful, violent anarchists. Ironic considering their communist origins.
>>139410618
Even though a lot of Marx's early supporters were Jews but okay.
>>139410496
I can kill a man and get a lower sentence.
Antifa .. is over.
>>139410582
Prove it.
>>139410789
its irrelevant what ethnic or religious group someone comes from. If Jewish nepotism was a thing they would be against marx because it eliminates it.
N.'.ϟE'S <3 U
>>139410582
I'm sorry, what were you saying?
>>139410618
I don't blame anyone, I just think there's a better way to do things
Spoiler: the majority of users posting in this thread right now is a Russian click farm
>>139410875
Why are we not LARPing in these outfits at Berkeley?
>>139410137
Youre saying the guy that runs the impact wrench and attaches the wheels to the car at the factory is just as much the owner of the car as the guy that invested a million of his own dollars into buying materials and tools necessary to build the whole car, right? And the impact wrench should belong to the guy whose job it is to run it for 8 hours a day, right?
I don't get how anyone can honestly believe that. The other guy has practically no skin on the game and can walk away whenever he chooses. The former guy has way more to lose, ergo he deserves a bigger proportion of the final product. How is that not fair? I really don't get it.
>>139409878
I agree with your sentiment of people having their own cultures, but I do not believe in stopping the pursuit of multiculturalism if it is the choice of individuals. Legislated multiculturalism, is not within my ideals.
I also hate degeneracy like you do, and agree with your stance on not hating homosexuals.
Pretty much everything you said I agree with in some way or form, but I do not agree that the Jews are the root problem of everything, nor do I believe in mass extermination or racial struggle. I opt more for a class based struggle, where there are Jews in he mix, but I do not ignore rampant elitist Catholics such as the Koch brothers. I also believe in the worker owning his means of production, not the state and not a "business owner".
Which is why I don't hate you. But given the opportunity, your friends would kill me for my ideals. Likewise I'm sure some of my comrades would kill you for yours. Given the circumstances, I must protect my own interests, and I wouldn't blame you for protecting yours
>>139404374
>history on your side
>>139410817
Thats basically the definition, once we reach that point where we are in abundance that we can remove property and money that would be communism.
>>139404374
What does make antifa different from fascists?
>>139410582
Yeah, right, in your theoretical model that was never checked and you have no other options to do this but to start state-communism which every single time ended as distopian trap for it's own people. No thanks.
>>139410618
If you knew how many Jewish people started communism, or denounced Jewish identity. You would understand how much Judaism, denouncing faith is what communism is all about.
Ask Hitler what he thought about a Jewish solider in World War 1 was like in a foxhole.
>>139410725
Remember that guy who smashed that guys head in with a bike lock when he was handing out Pepsi to people on both sides of the Berkeley riots. Yeah he was Antifa if I remeber.
>>139410968
communist parties don't mean the country is communist. Communism is their goal.
see!! it's Maduro dancing!!
This is how socialism looks like
>>139404821
>>139405038
>>139404374
kh
>>139411119
And we applaud your actions on finding him. We have no reason to support violent protesters and law breakers.
>>139404374
When Antifags can explain what anarcho-communism is, then we'll takk. for now, your entire movement supports an oxymoron. Fucking retarded faggots.
>>139410233
In that case "true" marxism will never come about because you said that an organic revolution can never happen, and no faggot alive has ever seized power and not become a despot. If by some miracle you manage to retard your way into this position, you'll inevitably fuck it up too and your buddies will eventually dismiss you as no a real communist.
How do you see it happening any other way, given that the media/technology/whatever makes an organic communist revolution impossible in your mind?
>>139410981
Kek the statue got hung
>>139404606
how do you know we are not doing that? Also after the hype is gone, many people will need help and money, and our skill set is deeper there with trades, trucks,tool than boats, dogs, helos, than search and rescue. We have ppl there right now.
>>139411119
Handing out pepsi to both sides what a fascist
>>139411307
Communism is basically the means of achieving anarchism since Communism is a stateless, propertyless society.
>>139411045
You're not a revolutionary or a savior, you're a fucking aberrant pestilence on western society.
You will be ended. And soon...
>>139411307
>>139411347
Communism will be achieved through socialism.
>>139411144
I will ask again - how do you wana to create yor ideal communism if not through state-communism?
>>139404374
>>139411572
It depends what state-communism is, they could be temporarily capitalists as long as the long term goal is communism. The people have to be ready for it more than anything.
>>139411298
What is antifas options on veterans, I remember my ex military dad telling me that when the nam vets came back they were spit on by Marxists and Communists. Whats your opinion?
>>139411532
Machnowszczyzna was destroyed by Bolsheviks so we don't know how would that experiment ended.
>>139411028
>Youre saying the guy that runs the impact wrench and attaches the wheels to the car at the factory is just as much the owner of the car as the guy that invested a million of his own dollars into buying materials and tools necessary to build the whole car, right?
Yes and no. I believe that it would be the duty of both of them in the acquisition of the materials, but I also do not believe they own the car themselves (unless they are making the car expressly for their own use). I also would prefer that mammon be cast away from society and perhaps a regression to a more barter like system be considered. I also believe that they should "build the car" for their local community members, and then exchange cars for materials with other communities. A similar thing has been historically done many times, and succeeded only to be replaced by the false idea of currency in place of services/goods
>>139411768
>What is antifas options on veterans
they hate them, as they hate the american government in general. They also more than likely root for the taliban to win over america
>>139411422
>>139404486
nobody want's fascism it's a horrible oppressive system that mirrors communism nobody in there right mind is in favor of either system
>>139411787
Trump is slowly succumbing to the Jews unfortunately.
>>139411045
>I do not believe in stopping the pursuit of multiculturalism if it is the choice of individuals
Look at this from my point of view, my country, Chile, has beatiful places, a lot of rural and natural pictures come to mind, we have a nice culture that I am a part of, our accent, ouyr food, our people, this is my culture, but what if a country like, for example, haiti, mass inmigrates into our country, our culture and theirs will dissapear and mix, leaving another culture, another people, another country, I do not want this to happen, I belive cultures shall have their own places in the world, it shall coexist, not mix.
>>139411710
So you want to do what every communist did in the history? End why do you think that this time it won't end with genocide, famine, ethnic purges etc.?
>>139411551
>continually expanding the government will eventually cause it to wither away
Sounds like you're saying "one of these days we'll no longer be able to see the forest through the trees"
The most charitable interpretation I can think of is that you're saying eventually everyone will be a government employee so it'll pretty much be like no one is a government employee, am I right?
>>139411768
Most people have a one dimensional view of what communism is, they have a hard time separating the regimes of the 20th century from what marx actually talked about. If wasn't that socially acceptable to support it so most Americans from those generations are against it even if they don't understand it.
>>139411954
Nazi cats are the best. Should be a /NC/ Nazi cats.
>>139411056
You do know what the definition is for trying the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result, right?
>>139411529
I don't blame you for your militant behavior. But to single me out and say it's justified? I don't believe I've done any crime worthy of the punishment other than disagree with you.
Then again, you're a shitposter. Whodathunk
>>139412049
>on paper its perfect!
this is fucking retarded anon. No one gives a shit about what you say you are going to do, you are judged by your actions.
>>139411915
In that case I hope far-right cells pop up in the army in the future. God forbid they cuck themselves.
>>139404374
>opposes capitalism
>have all big corporations cheering you on.
>have the DNC cheering you on.
> MSM cheering you on.
>have fucking Holloywood cheering you on.
I've got news for you son...
>>139412008
Why do you think it will? Many countries and unions are slowly moving toward communism, why do you think Europe and the US will suddenly revert back to 1930s mentality?
>>139404374
fuck off cunt
>>139409652
yes it has every time a county tires it the temporary dictator doesn't relinquish power which is why it never works and will never work
>>139412083
Not being a submissive cuck
>>139411969
(As a fellow white person) I'm afraid there is truly no hope for us white people Trump was really our only way to win.
>>139404374
>History is on our side
You are an ignorant nigger. Go home
>>139412081
>>139412244
antifa btfo for the 500th time.
>>139404374
>>139404374
>history is on our side
300,000 signatures on the petition to recognize antifa as a terrorist organization and treat you as such and growing, just hyped on Fox News primetime to the nation. I really hope you're a LARPer because we're coming for you and nobody's going to save you. You brought this on yourself and we tried to warn you, you degenerate commie fucks. Trump rallies going to be bigger than ever and you'll be watching them from a prison cell while the rest of us enjoy the freedom of capitalism.
>>139412186
I live in California (worst state) and I'm shunned from people because i'm (((politically incorrect))) and people call me un-american unaware that my ancestors came here in 1615
>>139412235
>m-maybe if I use the lingo no one will notice what a crock of shit my failed ideology is, or notice what a piss poor job Im doing shilling for it with these "not muh real gommunism!" lines
>>139404374
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_Volunteer_Battalion_of_the_Waffen-SS
>this triggers the commie.
>>139410582
fucking what
>>139411989
I believe in certain enclaves where people who decide it is their right to remain ethnically homogenous, is ok. But I do not believe it is your right to legislate such things. I appreciate culture and cultural differences, and I also understand that certain cultures do not mix well with others... but you did not address what I said about killing them in your country, or even displacing them. What do you do about the portion of your fellow countrymen who were born mixed? Do you view them as an abomination? If so, do you really believe it's right to displace a person who grew up in a culture into a radically different one? And if that's not the solution, I'd assume killing them is what you believe to be true, which I cannot bring myself to agree with.
>>139412049
You do realize the very same forces that destroyed communist governments would happen again right? The greed of wanting more as everybody else lives a shitty life. The over extension of government and the slow destruction of the economy.
>>139412175
They're cheering the useful idiots on, the trendy trust funded kids who would compromise the movement for a nanny state, not me
>>139411834
Barter economy on an international scale flagrantly disregards in-group preferences. Why would a one world barter economy last perpetually when all it'd take is a band of niggers with a dozen AK's to declare their little corner of the Bush is their territory and anyone outside the group who enters is shot on sight to fuck up the whole thing, and in the end all you'll have accomplished is regressing mankind back 10,000 years for no reason other than carrying out the academic fantasy of an old, dead white male.
>>139410582
>>139411915
Boston Antifa is a parody
>>139404374
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting.
Sage and report.
Where are your kittens, commies?
>>139412795
and yet, they express 100% what antifa really believes.
>>139412175
It's sad really...
>>139412763
Agreed. Exactly correct
antifa going to prison
>antifa going to prison
antifa going to prison
>antifa going to prison
antifa going to prison
>antifa going to prison
Fuck off red scum
>>139412747
>Rhodesia
>Bread Basket of Africa
>Communist Niggers take over
>Half of the country starves
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2008/11/zimb-n05.html
>>139412619
I do not agree with the mix of cultures and or races, but I do not see racemixed individuals as abomination and neither do I want to kill them, you see, when a racemixed individual or both races A and B has offspring with a B individual, he is 2/3 B now, he has offsping with another B individual, he becomes 3/4 and so on, the race finds it's path home and it doesnt dissapear, I do not hate people who don't do this and neither do I want to kill them, I just would prefer that this happened and so the race and culture is preserved
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I love being the reasonable 3rd option reasonable objector again, this is where Liberty grows the most - like a phoenix out of the ashes of collectivist violence.
>>139404374
The bourgeois that you claim to hate is on your side because you are their foot soldiers doing their bidding.
>>139413267
report these fags
>>139412763
Then perhaps a barter economy on a global scale is not what I want. A local scale is more what I'm stressing, but you seem to think that I believe everything would be fine and wars wouldn't happen over ludicrous claims, which I don't believe. There will always be wars anon, as long as there are two people left on this earth. But do take note that the dollar is representative of a trade of labor for goods, similar stand ins could apply.
>old dead white male
Hah, I like what you're trying to do. It doesn't necessarily appeal to me though.
>>139409433
>Amish
>Communists
>>139409652
>No one's ever tried Communism
Communism will never work Antifags. It will ALWAYS spiral to a dictatorship.
>>139411144
If then, your prior post if true of communism, by your own admission, there has never been a true Communist country, and there is therefore no way to extrapolate what true communism would be like as per your utopian delusions, thus rendering your first statement and indeed the whole of your argument completely and utterly void.
>>139413267
An antifa is willingly offering his tight, virgin asshole to you, and you dismiss this golden opportunity to pound a dozen or so Mandingo sized red pill suppositories in him for the hour or 2 that this thread survives? Kek, gidda loada this queer
>>139404374
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxIbq7HkalQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yy9VvAuCCEg
>>139404374
Lol this is the cringiest fucking thread. Holy shit.
>>139413494
Communism would probably only work on a small scale unlike in the ussr where got to big and collapsed.
>>139404374
Daily reminder that you bitch about capitalism all while reaping the benefits.
Communism cannot, has not, and will not ever work. But go ahead, keep slaughtering people. I can wait.
>>139404821
>>139405038
>>139405664
Why does antifa pretend that the Cold War never happened?
>>139413267
And sage it is now
>>139413769
You know what, I lied.
Communism does work. But only on a scale no larger than a household.
>>139404374
>Antifa is a political movement which opposes fascism, racism, sexism, antisemitism, capitalism and homophobia in direct action.
What you really meant was this:
Antifa is a political movement which opposes the First Amendment in every way, trashcans, and peace.
>>139412891
>>139404374
>History is on our side
History is on no one's side; this is called the Whig fallacy.
>>139413868
True
>>139413226
So let us have a hypothetical. An Ethiopian moved in to your country, long before such a political stance was brought. Said Ethiopian mixes with one of your countrymen and produces an offspring. The offspring is raised in your culture and does not retain any semblance of an Ethiopian culture, full integration. In order to promote racial purity, what measures would you take? If his offspring becomes 3/4ths Ethiopian, do you deport his children, who are also as well immersed in your culture?
>>139404486
The republic of China is still a country you fucking retarded faggot.
>>139404871
OP is a fag
>>139404374
>>139404374
I know Facts, open debate and grounded arguments are not really a "thing" in the anti-fa moment. But please try to exercise your mind
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN2ZTpqr8sQ
>>139411834
HAA HAA "A barter like system..." So you advocate for capitalism or an agreed upon exchange of goods and services. Dumb ass. At least you're on the right track - keep thinking it through and get out of your Mom's basement. You might become a benefit to society.
As a society we should pursue democracy.
>>139413758
Which is why the establishment of communes is necessary, similar to how states were established but without the strong central government deciding what is best
>>139413868
How? Are you saying children should work?
>>139409652
If I try to build a hut but it falls down was it a real hut?
>>139413494
Your comrades are your own worst enemy then. Breaking up community cohesion with forced diversity and unlimited immigration is going to make your vision all but impossible. Race baiting and identity politics causes people to withdraw and makes them feel alienated from their community. How do you possibly hope to win back the trust of someone like me who's been told for years that my country will be bilingual one day and I'm going to be a minority and that that's a good thing because by virtue of my birth I'm a monster?
I get that that isn't YOUR view, but face it - it's not an altogether uncommon pov on leftist circles
>>139414000
There authoritarian capitalists I think
>>139413975
Why are you commie fucks so obsessed with race-mixing? I've noticed this a lot with people I've talked to in person. Serious question.
>>139404486
Fascism and communism are basically the same. You're mentally retarded to fall for either system, or think that one is superior. Both have been tried and failed. Both have caused millions of deaths. Both have created mass genocides. Both creates a country that literally oppresses itself. Both economically fail. Both destroy democracy
The only difference is that communism is the only one still being supported to this day. I can't believe you half-human scum haven't realized how ironic you're being. You're just going through your edge phase.
> "F-f-f-f-fuck the system"
just od on alcohol already.
>>139414173
Think about the standard family. Two parents, and 1 or more children. The parents are the government, and the children are the citizenry. Most of the communist doctrine can be found in how the standard family lives (distribution of wealth/goods/services, everyone works towards a common good, etc.)
Any bigger, and you get Mao.
>>139414131
Morons and fucking degenerate idiots so eager to be this century's tools that usher in the next global massacre.
Fuck off you fucking dipshits - you understand nothing about human nature, work, ambition, and least of all liberty. You are literal children trying to pretend you have an actual thought process and you really need to shut the fuck up.
>>139404486
We're not facists you absolute cretin.
Friendly reminder: if you don't understand your enemy you cannot win.
>>139414106
You haven't read my previous posts obviously. I believe in an exchange of goods and services, but not on a system based around an imaginary value of paper. I work for a living, I am an electrician. I could assume the same about you, even say you're projecting, but I don't because I don't truly know who you are. You assume I'm some stuck up trust funded kiddy who believes in a nanny state, but you're wrong.
Read my other posts, it'll help you better formulate and argument
>>139414376
See
>>139408135
Why are you militant? Can't you be civil for one second?
>>139404374
Antifa are just a bunch of pussies using fascist tactics to silence anyone whose views they disagree with. They can be called fascists, since in many ways they are fascists.
>>139413897
>>139414490
You can barter all you like, but eventually nobody wants your services or goods. This is why gold began to see use as a currency. It was just an intermediary, widely-accepted alternative, because it both held value (scarcity), and could be exchanged by anybody who accepted it.
It's all fun and games, until your communism turns into capitalism.
We do agree, though. Fiat currency is fiat.
>>139405038
Those lads would have been more racist than 90% of us
>>139404374
Yeah History teachings are quite nice.
There will be plenty religions and all of them will fail.
There will be be plenty attempts too
make a perfect system of government and they will fail to.
>>139414705
This
It was the 1940s, keep that in mind.
>>139414177
See here: >>139296590
>>139414601
The Brown Shirts and the SA did a better job then antifa could ever do
>>139414368
But the children don't work, they don't participate in the creation of the resources that are being distributed, they just leech.
>>139414967
Which is exactly what the jews want
>>139404374
Not a single brown country is as successful as white counties.
>>139414967
You've obviously never done chores.
Children also provide value in the form of entertainment, affection, and something to take pride in.
It's not a perfect example, I'll cede that. But it's damn better than "communism is 100% unobtainable", because several aspects do work in the micro scale.
>>139413975
I would try to just let his future offspring mix until it's part of our race, if possible, I would like a law that does not allow massive racemixing, this is due to IQ levels and culture.
I don't like racemixing because it damages the IQ of the people and thus, the nation.
Also, wasnt that a country that allowed slaves to have less rights than animals?
>>139415126
Jews know this they want to kill whites off because whites are the only people that can sustain western civilization.
>>139415246
Not everything is the Jews, man.
A lot is. But not everything.
>>139409652
Leftist cognitive dissonance never ceases to amaze
>>139415223
I have a shitload of mexicans at my school and they're all retarded and get high whenever they can.
>>139415134
Chores don't bring money to the household and affection doesn't buy food. Family values are not communism, kill yourself.
OG conservatists.
>>139415359
Vid related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlB_xNOAn1c
>>139415355
Agreed.
>>139405390
That's not white supremacy, it just means he had a cursory idea of the teachings of Islam. Saudi Arabia and Qatar have slavery to this day, even if they don't call it that.
> look it up
>>139405438
The altright isnt nazi you idiot.
>>139415395
Children do chores, and that creates value. It saves the "government" (chief earner in the home) time and resources it'd otherwise have to direct to do the task. It's akin to the collectivized farming in a communist utopia.
>>139412747
Interesting thread. I'd like to ask you a few questions on this.
Do you see it as a problem that your actions directly play into their hands?
Isn't it a bad thing that most of your supporters are trendy trust fund children who will abandon your ideology as soon as the elites regain full control?
Does it scare you that you are a minority within your own movement?
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