Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.
Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.
What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:
>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.
>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."
>To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/
ML uses a philosophy called dialectical materialism, see here:
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm
It is recommended that you read some of the critical works of Marxism-Leninism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.
Resources:
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm
What is the difference between NazBol and NatSoc?
>>139399763
>being retarded has never failed before! its the future!
>>139399850
former is still living with his parents
Socialism is doomed to fail.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9Whccunka4
https://pastebin.com/LFMagdVr
In political/economic theory, notably socialist, Marxist, and most anarchist philosophies, the distinction between private and personal property is extremely important. Which items of property constitute which is open to debate. In some philosophies, such as capitalism, private and personal property are considered to be exactly equivalent.
Personal property includes "items intended for personal use" (e.g., clothes, homes, and vehicles, and sometimes money). It must be gained in a socially fair manner, and the owner has a distributive right to exclude others.
Private property is a social relationship between the owner and persons deprived (not a relationship between person and thing), e.g., artifacts, factories, mines, dams, infrastructure, natural vegetation, mountains, deserts, seas, etc. Marxism holds that a process of class conflict and revolutionary struggle could result in victory for the proletariat and the establishment of a communist society in which private property and ownership is abolished over time and the means of production and subsistence belong to the community. (Private property and ownership, in this context, means ownership of the means of production, not personal possessions).
To many socialists, the term private property refers to capital or the means of production, while personal property refers to consumer and non-capital goods and services.
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
https://www.gommies.gom/fug/
https://www.gommies.gom/starve/
GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
https://www.gommies.gom/ohfugme/
It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.
Resources:
https://www.gommies.gom/ohshid/
https://www.gommies.gom/1984/
https://www.gommies.gom/guck/
https://www.gommies.gom/probaganda/
https://www.gommies.gom/XDDDD/
https://www.gommies.gom/wheresfood/
https://www.gommies.gom/benis/
Da sdages of gommunism.
>Sdage one
Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.
>Sdade two
Withering
All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.
>Sdage three
Gommunism.
No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.
>Sdage four
Nod real gommunism. Move on to nexd goundry :DDDDDDD
Where is da food at?
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>>139402854
>shitparts of the world has famines
NO WAY
>>139402854
If there had been as many commie governments as there have been capitalist governments, your pic would be a fair indication of which system's better at not starving its people. Now let's do it by percentage of ______ governments under which there were famines, and see that it'll be almost all red.
>>139399763
sage
>>139404635
>ww2
>the holocaust
Nigger you what? Hitler was not a capitalist
Rest is also bullshit
>>139402654
>Cuba
>starving
Even when they were in a serious downturn in the 90s they managed to avoid starvation.
>>139399763
Reminder that (((communism))) was the creation of subversive kikes.
>>139404635
>guys, they're killing us with the dead commies meme, what do??
>Add up everyone that we didn't kill and then blame it in capitalism.
Brilliant communist propaganda, comrade!
s m h t b h f a m
>>139401344
And I thought gommie blocks were dreary
>>139407237
(((communism))) gives oligarchs unchecked state power, the sub-humans of the target nation are made envious of success, then turned against the successful. This will not work in USA. Commies will be removed on sight.
>>139407237
>le (((meme)))
Hahaha le so le (((funny))) le (((epik meme))) XDDD!!!!
>>139399763
If communists are so worried about the poor, then why don't they start their own businesses and hire poor people?
Why are there no communist charities?
If communists care so much about the workers, then why do they attack the workers first during the revolution?
Why do communists hate farmers so much? Seriously did Marx have a bad run in with a farmer and decided that farmers are the ones who will suffer the most?
>>139399763
Communism is Jewish.
Marx was a Jew.
Trotsky was a Jew.
Lenin was a Jew.
The first soviet Government was mostly Jewish.
The Holocaust did not happen.
>>139407683
That's right goy! it's just a meme! Here have a shekel
>>139407930
The real question is why don't the faggot basement dwellers that constantly post this stupid shit move to a communist country? how about it OP, why don't you move to North Korea?
Still waiting OP...how come your not moving to Venezuela?
>>139402854
>Imperial China was Capitalist
>Imperial Japan was Capitalist
The hunger must really be affecting your brain. Have a Snickers® comrade
>>139408067
le epik meme XD XD XD!!!!
>>139399763
Do you ever stop and think that maybe these threads aren't working?
Crickets from the OP on moving...why is that? Why don't you move to the communist utopia of Cuba? Think of it man...free health care, free school, and everyone has a job.
>>139399763
Hey that's a pretty nice ideology you got there to bad it doesn't work.
>>139408045
Are you familiar with "poisoning the well" -logical fallacy?
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>>139408248
hahahaha le lololol funny epic meme le XDDDD!!!!! le so le funny ebin meme lolololol!!!!!111!!!!!
>>139399763
>>139408373
Communism has never worked...ever, so its fair to say the OP did not think this through. How about it OP...why don't you move?
>>139408111
I've asked them this question. I've also asked them why they don't just fuck off and start their own commune.
You'll get an answer that makes absolutely no sense every time. Some mumbling about how capitalism has to progress to socialism which will finally yield communism. What does that have to do with them fucking off and starting their own commune you ask? Absolutely nothing.
>>139399850
Seriously we need to gas both National Socialism and International Socialism
How will communism work if the rest of the world is so diverse?
How will communism work if the rest of the world hasn't even mastered agrarian economics yet?
Why are communists so focused on making white men communists but care shit all for the rest of the world who is more willing?
Why must communists resort to violence in order to get the revolution started, why can't they be peaceful like capitalists?
Over 100 million dead in the 20th century alone, and still no answer as to why the OP is not moving. Why is this?
>>139408745
>over 100 million dead
nice meme
>le Venezuela was perfect until those ebil communists ruined everything
*revisionism intensifies*
>>139399763
>>139408575
Most of these stupid fucks still live at home, or are going to college to get worthless degrees that put them deep in debt for most of their adult life. They know little of the world other than the make believe one on campus. How about it OP...why are you not moving? Do you have an answer? Why are you still here?
>>139408657
>Why must communists resort to violence in order to get the revolution started, why can't they be peaceful like capitalists?
>capitalists
>peaceful
>>139409054
Look up Ostalgie.
saged
>>139409220
Capitalism didn't need a violent revolution to begin.
>>139409736
Wrong. Capitalism and the capitalist system have their roots in the violence and unrest of Early Modern Europe.
>>139408536
Which country is this picture from?
>>139399763
Listen here communist, I vow I will outlive your insipid and outdated political systems. And under capitalism I will outlive you.
>>139410116
North Korea
Hey OP...why have you not answered my question about moving? You can move to the commie paradise, and yet your still here? Why don't you pack your shit and move?
>>139410004
Oh yea? Tell us more of the bloody Capitalist Revolution that overthrew a monarchy in a bloody coup. Tells of the war that took place to make mass production a possibility or how how people could enjoy higher standards of living. Tell us about the millions capitalists starved in order to send a message to their political enemies or the cold war that capitalists started with the crown.
How about commies? Why don't you guys move? North Korea will welcome you with open arms, and yet your still here, and strangely silent about why you don't move.
>>139410547
They can't, and never will be able to. The real question to ask faggots like the OP, is why they don't currently move. Why is that? Why are they still here? What's wrong with Cuba, or North Korea OP?
Just as I thought...crickets on why do they stay here. They can't make an argument about the countries under communism that are doing well. Man you guys are about useless. How about it OP...why are you still here?
Your computer or phone that you are posting on right now is a result of capitalism. How does that make you feel?
Trigger commies by posting farmers.
Are commies resentful of farmers because farmers proved to be smarter about the economy than them?
>>139410547
>what was Francoist Spain
>what was the Salvadoran Civil War
>what was the New Order
>what were the Indonesian mass killings in 1965-66
>what was the Duvalier family
>who were the Somozas
>what was the Chilean military regime
>what was the Paraguayan dictatorship
>what was Operacion Condor
>what was the White Terror
>what was the Bangladesh Liberation War
>what was Nationalist China
>what was the English Civil War
>who was the Shah
>>139402384
Thank you for your hard work.
lol commie cucks
>>139411862
>What is the Russian Revolution?
Look at that commie, I did it in one and it was the first communist experiment as well as the first violent communist uprising.
>>139411744
No, because they actually produce food.
You know what communists can't do?
Farm!
Neither Capitalism nor Communism works.
>>139408191
>>139408248
Get your helicopter memes from here:
https://voat.co/v/PhysicalRemoval/2063708
Faget
>>139412085
>that qt white wife
>that beautiful harvest
>that comfy country living
sorry for letting you down, grandpa and the greatest generation
>>139412500
>Be able to grow your food
>Your family's food
>Your animal's food
>Your car's fuel
>Other products
If you learn this one basic skill then that will put you ahead of any communist.
>>139408389
He'll need to move out of his parent's house first
We're coming for you faggots. We got gunz too.
>>139413394
>Tfw you actually live in Venezuela
>You have to live with your parents to survive
>You wish you could trade places with OP
>>139414392
>Feels bad man
Sorry to hear Venezuela bro. It sucks to see good folks like you suffer from retarded socialist policies. Stay strong.
>>139402384
Kept us waiting
>>139414775
At least i have the internet to try and get out of here or forget the fact that i live here for a couple of hours.
Everything is not lost bro.
>>139399763
>>139416391
>>139414392
>jews get BTFO in Venezuela
>OY VEY heard around the world
>>139399763
Once we win, this is what will happen to all of you alt-right bigots...
>>139415677
You big piece of shit
How about we switch fucking places?
I bet you would get along just fine with these monsters.
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>>139399763
hi Spain
>>139399763
dirty commies
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>>139400899
Now where have I seen that chart before?
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>>139400554
Russians wanting to go back to gommunism is little kid crying that he doesn't want a nap because he isn't tired. He can kick and scream all he wants but eventually he'll crash