[Boards: 3 / a / aco / adv / an / asp / b / bant / biz / c / can / cgl / ck / cm / co / cock / d / diy / e / fa / fap / fit / fitlit / g / gd / gif / h / hc / his / hm / hr / i / ic / int / jp / k / lgbt / lit / m / mlp / mlpol / mo / mtv / mu / n / news / o / out / outsoc / p / po / pol / qa / qst / r / r9k / s / s4s / sci / soc / sp / spa / t / tg / toy / trash / trv / tv / u / v / vg / vint / vip / vp / vr / w / wg / wsg / wsr / x / y ] [Search | Free Show | Home]

Hey (((atheists))), how are stars formed?

This is a red board which means that it's strictly for adults (Not Safe For Work content only). If you see any illegal content, please report it.

Thread replies: 113
Thread images: 32

File: holy-bible-kjv.jpg (13KB, 458x250px) Image search: [Google]
holy-bible-kjv.jpg
13KB, 458x250px
>>
In Hollywood
>>
>>139393221
By getting a grammy or an oscar
>>
Gas or something
>>
Btfo
>>
File: 1503586190902.jpg (136KB, 1072x1072px)
1503586190902.jpg
136KB, 1072x1072px
>>139393339
>>
Universal flatulence.
>>
File: yahweh.jpg (301KB, 771x1000px)
yahweh.jpg
301KB, 771x1000px
>>139393221

By Yahweh talking.
>>
Stop making fun of OP, he clearly understands that atheists are smarter than him and therefor ask them the hard questions his parents cant answer.

You might want to google things tho.
>>
>>139393221

Faggot. I hate you more than Muslims.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BY2zCReDWg
>>
((((("""stars""")))))

Genesis 1:14
And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
>>
File: what a star REALLY looks like.webm (436KB, 640x360px) Image search: [Google]
what a star REALLY looks like.webm
436KB, 640x360px
Genesis 1:15
And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
>>
>idiot shill
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-relationship-between-metaphysics-and-physics-Would-the-denial-of-a-relationship-mean-anything
>>
File: Arcturus Real Star.webm (960KB, 640x360px) Image search: [Google]
Arcturus Real Star.webm
960KB, 640x360px
>>
File: real stars not what nasa said.webm (2MB, 640x360px) Image search: [Google]
real stars not what nasa said.webm
2MB, 640x360px
>>
File: rainbow star.webm (3MB, 640x360px) Image search: [Google]
rainbow star.webm
3MB, 640x360px
>>
File: star.png (364KB, 905x701px)
star.png
364KB, 905x701px
>>
Revelation 12:9
And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
>>
>>139395365
wtf is this
>>
>>139393755
Man, I sure want to worship and kill my fellow white people over this thing.
>>
>>139395125
>how does light works
>what is the colour spectrum
>>
>>139395748
Job 9:9
Which maketh Arcturus, Orion, and Pleiades, and the chambers of the south.
>>
>>139395748
i dont know, but i would also like to know, because im pretty sure no telescoped were used and no real stars were used either, but i feel like water was a part of the process.
>>
>>139393221

OP
This is not /pol/ political topic you moron.
Go to /x/ or /sci/
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80eMTnnLjhs
>>
File: 1495262235612.png (656KB, 838x945px)
1495262235612.png
656KB, 838x945px
>>
>>139395667
Every word in Hebrew means "to deceive"
>>
Thanks for the support brothers in Christ.

Looks like we rustles some jimmies.


>>139394750
(((Carbon dating is accurate and Christianity is based off these carbon-dated predecessors)))
>>
>>139396066
How new are ((((you))))?
>>
>>139396066
>>
>>139396328

Your religion comes from the holy land Palestine, which is now occupied by Jews. GOD would not approve, if he existed.
>>
>>139396072
"If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough"

See psuedo-intellect, appeal to authority and (((nat geo))).

Did you even watch the video? Explain how a star is formed
>>
>>139395574
>>139395482
>>139395426
>>139395365
>>139395255
>>139395125
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VPna5n3LjY
>>
File: 1503957060098.webm (962KB, 1280x720px) Image search: [Google]
1503957060098.webm
962KB, 1280x720px
>>139396743
*tips fedora*
>>
>>139395255
wtf is this
>>
>>139396921

Based Trump!
>>
File: 1501036197947.jpg (52KB, 548x548px)
1501036197947.jpg
52KB, 548x548px
>>139393221
instructions included
->https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CS7j5I6aOc
>>
>>139393755
Besides the only person to see The Father was Moses and it was only his back
>>
>>139397322
No man has seen the Father.

Abraham saw Christ in Genesis 18.

Isaiah saw Christ in Isaiah 6.

Gonna need a verse about Moses.
>>
>>139393221
gravity compresses a constant nuclear exspolsion creating different elements until iron is created once iron is created. once iron is created gravity wins over the constant exspolsion compressing the star so much that it explodes into a massive dust cloud of raw elements known as a super nova

depending on the size of the star iron might not be the end of the stars life
larger stars continue to burn and fuze elements into heavier elements like gold or silver but when thet star eventually goes super nova it can end in a few other ways like a white dwarf or a black hole

stars are kinda boring though if you want something cool try looking up dark stars
>>
>>139397765
Any what part of scientific method can be used to verify this hypothesis, considering this has never been observed, demonstrated or recreated.

Nice try Goldstein
>>
>>139395986
should be a thing
>>
>>139397765
Also, now that I've read your comment:

Do you even gravity bro? Gas clouds
>>
>>139396921
you gotta love this guy
>>
alright so
>gas chilling in the universe
>gets disturbed by the gravity of an object passing by
>gas starts clumping together here and there
>as clumps grow, so does their gravitational pull
>pressure builds up near the core where gravity is the strongest
>eventually fusion happens
>after reaching critical mass, the baby star lets out a huge fart as it enters adulthood
This process takes much longer than your meaningless life lasts
>>
>>139398509
Cool story bro, then why isnt every planet a star?
>>
>>139398509
And again: considering Scientific Method is a STANDARD, how can you turn this hypothesis into a theory without the ability to decreate, demonstrate or observe the claims?

You are a middleman for gay Jew larping
>>
>>139398616
>then why isnt every planet a star?
they are see>>139395986
>>
>>139398616
Did you really not learn the differences between a gas and a solid in school?
>>
>>139398861
Are you so far up your ass you will defend abiogenesis right here, right now as well?
>>
>>139398743
I can't, can you demonstrate that god created stars?
>>
File: santos bonacci.jpg (56KB, 480x480px)
santos bonacci.jpg
56KB, 480x480px
>>139396142
>>
>>139398952
Wew, sounds like we both follow Faith-based religions.

Please tell us about abiogenesis
>>
>>139393221
stars come from nigger kings in egypt
>>
File: 1503562833975.png (249KB, 248x459px) Image search: [Google]
1503562833975.png
249KB, 248x459px
>>139399038
>Wew, sounds like we both follow Faith-based religions
The difference lies in that science doesn't care about being told it's wrong while you're obviously butt-blasted about people not believing in your holy scripture.
>Are you so far up your ass you will defend abiogenesis right here, right now as well?
>Please tell us about abiogenesis
I won't, but is this bait?
>>
File: 1451320027916.png (475KB, 760x797px)
1451320027916.png
475KB, 760x797px
Ancient (future) NazBols went back in time and made them.
>>
>>139396947
Light distortion from atmospheric haze.
>>
>>139399366
>The difference lies in that science doesn't care about being told it's wrong while you're obviously butt-blasted about people not believing in your holy scripture.

Edgy. In America, we pay the government to teach your religion and to suppress mine. Is your country the same?

>I won't, but is this bait?
It's more of a prodding to see if you even know where your Faith lies. Pleb.
>>
>>139393319
underrated
>>
>>139399630
Nice use of the word edgy, friend.
>It's more of a prodding to see if you even know where your Faith lies. Pleb.
I have no faith, I'd just rather hypothesize on the origins of the universe instead of chalking it all up to God, it's more entertaining.
I care very little about who is right though
>>
>>139393221
>hahaha atheists you can't explain this
>it's been fully explained decades ago
>ohshit.jpg
>no it hasn't that's all lies

every time
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_formation
>>
>>139400222
To assert your initial post as unequivical fact is Faith that it is unequivical fact. Yet it fails Scientific Method.

>>139400310
This wouldn't be an intellectual thread without some shit-eater linking (((Wikipedia))).
1) go to dentist
2) get off Dawkins dick
3) show me how this Theory "has been proven" without Scientific Method
>>
File: 1dxet4.jpg (51KB, 670x377px)
1dxet4.jpg
51KB, 670x377px
>>139400810
He asked the opinion of (((atheists))) so I'm giving him the best guess science has. Do you know how scientists came up with this "hypothesis"?
>>
>>139397322
nobody can look upon God and live
>>
>>139401255
Again, you're trying to tuck your dick between your legs, as if you didn't imply in your first post that this was unequivical fact.
>>
>>139393221
Gravity
>>
>>139401530
Oh
>>
>>139401451
How about you answer my question?
>>
>>139401582
I'm borrowing your tactic. What is abiogenesis to you?

And it doesnt matter, if you had anything observable, recreatable or demonstrable to prove star formation, you would've mentioned it. Anything else does not matter.
>>
>>139401830
What tactic? Why are you trying to change the subject to abiogenesis?
I'll ask again, do you know how scientists came to this conclusion?
>>
>>139402141
Are you an actual retard?

It doesn't matter. If you had any ammo in your pocket in the form of any semblence to Scientific Method, you would've shown it by now. The fact that you havent and keep baiting shows your blind faith.
>>
>>139395365
>>139395426
>>139395482
>>139395574
Those are refraction in water.
>>
File: 1487965983404.jpg (149KB, 800x820px)
1487965983404.jpg
149KB, 800x820px
>>139402865
Math, they used math based on our current understanding of physics. So it's a theory not a hypothesis. also
>plebbit spacing
>>
I always thought it was weird that people blindly believe anything someone says when SCIENCE is plastered on it. Just act like you know what you're talking about, have a lot of people agree with it, show some charts and numbers and BAM.
>>
>>139403175
Math means you can skip 3 steps involved in Scientific Method. The universal standard.

Ok Jew
>>
File: 1492847224430.jpg (36KB, 800x600px)
1492847224430.jpg
36KB, 800x600px
>>139393319
>>139393336
>pic related

>>139393221
serious answer, clouds of matter like hydrogen and helium, for one reason or another, compress enough and in large enough quantities that they start holding themselves together with their own gravity and heat and pressure gets high enough that fusion starts to occur, and then it grows from there. that's an extremely simplistic and layman description but it's the general idea
>>
>>139403284
They lust after intellectual superiority.

Romans 1:22-28King James Version (KJV)

22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
>>
File: 1503946781580.png (21KB, 800x800px)
1503946781580.png
21KB, 800x800px
>>139403726
>what is a theory
You're gonna have to bait harder if you want to rustle my jimmies, pal.
>>
File: 477867585687.png (279KB, 898x790px)
477867585687.png
279KB, 898x790px
the earth is flat
>>
>>139403930
You are actually retarded.

Who cares about Experiment, Analyze and Conclude?

>"We dont need to observe, recreate or demonstrate when we can just use math."

Ok Goldstein
>>
>>139393221
>Nazi
>Christian
LMAO, there's some historically illiterate American behind this post
>>
>>139393221
A Cloud of hydrogen a little more than the mass of the resulting star gravitationally collapses in on itself, the pressure/volume change causes the temperaure to increase as per PV=nRT
once it increases past the point of nuclear fusion, Hydrogen fuses into deuterium, which fuses into helium-4

>>139402999
you mean air
>>
File: 1503699782214.jpg (37KB, 512x380px)
1503699782214.jpg
37KB, 512x380px
>>139404906
>being this retarded
>>
>>139404972
LMAO at being this fucking brainwashed, how was any of that tested?
>>
>>139404972
Prove that. Scientific method is the universal standard.

If you dont know it to be unequivicallgytrue, say so before you unveil psuedo-science.
>>
>>139393221
Fuck if I know fission or some shit
>>
>>139405108
With particle colliders?
The energy is heat instead of kinetic for stars, though

>>139405120
prove what? that gravity and nuclear fusion exist
>>
>>139405392
We have never seen a star form. The only equivilency given by science is this:
"The energy creates by 20 supernovas can, theoretically, form a new star"

We see stars explode all the time. Why have we never seen one form. The Sun in shrinking as well.
>>
>>139393221
The current leading theory is that enough gases in one place create a gravity well strong enough to violently compress until enough energy and pressure sparks fusion.
The proof is rational and mathematical in nature. Unless you deny the existence of rational evidence, in which case you deny the model of epistemology that enables you to claim the existence of God.
Science and religion are not mutually exclusive. Figuring out how things happen is not the same as understanding why they happen and take the form they do.
Please quit your D&C shilling, we're on the same side.
>>
>>139405856
https://www.space.com/8635-star-caught-act-birth.html
Star Caught in Act of Birth
A Spitzer IRAC band 3 (5.8 μm) image of the L1448 complex. The youngest future star, known as L1448-IRS2E, is located in the Perseus star-forming region, which is approximately 800 light-years away, within own Milky Way galaxy.
Credit: Xuepeng Chen/Yale University

This story was updated June 22 at 12:40 p.m. EDT.

The youngest unborn star currently known ? an object so early in its formation that it isn't fully developed into a true star ? has been caught on camera in a new study.

Astronomers glimpsed the future star using the Submillimeter Array in Hawaii and the infrared Spitzer Space Telescope. The object, which is estimated to be only a few thousand years old, has just begun pulling matter in from a surrounding envelope of gas and dust.

"It's very difficult to detect objects in this phase of star formation, because they are very short-lived and they emit very little light"

(i have no idea what your supernova energy shit means, expand on it please)
>>
>>139406385
well fuck, copy-pasted more than i thought there...
>>
>>139406237
I'm not shilling. Undermining Genesis casts doubt on the entire Bible.


>>139406385
Shit-eater with shitteeth reposting shit he just googled.

1) "If you cant explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough"
2) Title of article directly contradicted by content of article
3) Just under 1 septillion known stars in the universe. Guess this page found the only new one.
>>
>>139404906
>that flag
>mind filled with western propaganda
checks out. christian tenets were a core and integral facet of hitlers national socialism, you history-deft twat
>>
>>139407312
>implying we can see all stars all the time
>implying we can see where a star is going to form ahead of time and point a camera there
>implying we can see all of those stars all the time
Cunt, you asked for why we've never seen one form. it's not like some kind of 10 minute thing that is visible everywhere to the naked eye.

now explain to me what "The energy creates by 20 supernovas can, theoretically, form a new star" means in terms of where it fits into the discussion. what is it meant to proove, what do you mean, where are you getting it from?
>>
>>139397958
Newtons law of universal gravity states that matter is attracted to itself. Using this observation, we can explain how star formation works.

Under intense gravity and pressure, clumps of hydrogen gas will begin fusing. This fusion is what powers stars. When a star gets old, most of the hydrogen has been fused into helium. The star then fuses the helium to make heavier elements, and so on until the star reached iron.

Iron is a very heavy metal. Eventually the combined gravity of the iron overpowers the force of fusion, and the star esplodes.

Not only is this observable, but its somewhat testable in the lab and in physics. This isn't some mumbo-jumbo that someone came up with. THe understanding of stars has come from generations of breakthru science and physics.
>>
>>139397958
>nuclear fusion has never been observed or recreated
I guess you think fusion bombs are bullshit, too? Good luck trying to "save the white race" and/or maintain any sort of technological advantage over other cultures whatsoever after throwing the past 100 years of scientific advancement wholesale. Idiots.
>>
>>139393755
jew god only has one nut?
>>
>>139393221
what are you a cop.
>>
>>139409742
Shut the fuck up you misquoting moron.

To state that star formation is the reault of nucmear fusion is the most unscientific, psuedo-intellectual, spastic, kike-worshipping shit you can say.

And I'm have Asian.
>>
>>139393221
The creation of the universe is not the important question that the bible answers, too much autism in christianity is the reason why everyone has turned atheist in the weest.
>>
>>139393221
Simple experiments carried out in micro-gravity demonstrate unequivocally that particulates in micro-gravity, when perturbed, begin a gradual process of agglomeration. Star and planetary formation follows a similar pattern.

Gravitational disturbances perturb interstellar gas and particulate, mostly hydrogen and helium, resulting in the gradual agglomeration of said material over a cosmological time scale. The physical interaction of said gas results in heat (and thus light), however, luminosity remains extremely faint in comparison to other astrophysical processes and objects. As the gaseous body becomes more massive, the gravitational influence it has on its constituent gases causes them to compress, increasing temperatures and pressures within a gravitationally bound and compressed volume. If there is enough gas within the region of the protostellar object, and it is able to gravitationally capture said gas, then it will at some point reach a critical mass in which the pressures and temperatures are enough such that atomic nuclei are able to overcome the repulsive forces of their interacting nuclei (the Coulomb barrier, which has to do with the lowest energy state of the interacting atoms) through a process called quantum mechanical tunneling. Although this process is extremely unlikely, the sheer amount of matter (atoms) in the protostellar object results in an astronomical number of fusion reactions, and a new star is born.

The resulting shockwave (hydrogen flash) pushes back interstellar gas in the star's local vicinity, limiting any other gravitationally bound and agglomerating objects (i.e., planets) from growing in size.
>>
>>139410750
Negative. Examine the hard data of secularism's rise since the work of Hutton and Darwin.

By attacking the foundation of Creation(Genesis), they have cast doubt and reduced Jesus' miracles to fairy tales.
>>
>>139411308
I've been trying to rediscover Christ and undo my religious brainwashing. "fairy tales" is pretty harsh, but I've found a lot of the miracle-related stuff is best interpreted metaphorically. are you saying Jesus's miracles should be taken literally? or is there an error in-translation maybe? serious question about your personal interpretation
>>
>>139411688
I believe the miracles are to be taken literally.

The enemies of Christ wrote of his miracles, dismissing them as "black magic". Yet they knew if they outright denied their occurence that they would be exposed as fruad.

The temple of the Israelites who sentenced Christ to die on the cross was heavily damaged in an earthquake coinciding with the day Jesus died on the cross. There are mentions of this in the Bible, and in secular, objecrive Roman ledgers.

If you are looking yo strengthen your faith in the Word of God, please watch this video series brother:

https://youtu.be/Unqe61wS7IM?list=PL13E0E3AA92A1BCC1
>>
>>139393221
Hey (((theists))), how was god formed?
>>
Answer: they form themselves
Response: then why can't God form himself?

Atheists are brainlets.
>>
>>139412434
Oh, looks like we both have Faith-based religions.

*pats you on head*
>>
>>139411308
That's not really true.
You could excise the books of Genesis and Exodus entirely and retain the core of the new testament. Also minimal research reveals that Job was the oldest book, and the original books were likely compiled by Ezra. Genesis itself borrows heavily from other creation myths and epic stories such as the great flood, using them as a backdrop for the foundation of Israel. It even heavily borrows from Zoroastrianism. However when you have the prophets coming about in reference to Jesus and then Jesus apparently fulfilling many prophecies, producing miracles, raising the dead, and empowering his apostles to believe so fervently that they gave up their earthly lives to go forth to horrible deaths just to preach his word, the gospel really stands on its own.
>>
>>139393755
that is not YWVH, and you aren't as edgy as you think you are, faggot.
>>
File: maxresdefault.jpg (90KB, 1176x720px)
maxresdefault.jpg
90KB, 1176x720px
Same way zippy water is made
>>
File: download (1).jpg (10KB, 225x225px)
download (1).jpg
10KB, 225x225px
>>139412748
Careful, preaching antichrist doctrine.

Ages for Job, Zoroastrian scribbles and other "pre-Christianity" religions are false. Their age is determined by carbon-dating, which has been proven repeatedly to be extremely innacurate. See image attached.
>>
Daily reminder that any religious thread is salt-leftypol's raid attempts.
>Proof!
>>
>>139416238
Do you really think that?

Are you an idiot?
Thread posts: 113
Thread images: 32


[Boards: 3 / a / aco / adv / an / asp / b / bant / biz / c / can / cgl / ck / cm / co / cock / d / diy / e / fa / fap / fit / fitlit / g / gd / gif / h / hc / his / hm / hr / i / ic / int / jp / k / lgbt / lit / m / mlp / mlpol / mo / mtv / mu / n / news / o / out / outsoc / p / po / pol / qa / qst / r / r9k / s / s4s / sci / soc / sp / spa / t / tg / toy / trash / trv / tv / u / v / vg / vint / vip / vp / vr / w / wg / wsg / wsr / x / y] [Search | Top | Home]

If you need a post removed click on it's [Report] button and follow the instruction.
If you like this website please support us by donating with Bitcoin at 16mKtbZiwW52BLkibtCr8jUg2KVUMTxVQ5
All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective parties. Posts and uploaded images are the responsibility of the Poster. Comments are owned by the Poster.
This is a 4chan archive - all of the content originated from that website. If you need information about a Poster - contact 4chan. This project is not affiliated in any way with 4chan.