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Germany and France know the era of manned fighter jets is over

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Drones all the way.

And the UK will be stuck with the boondoggle that is the F-35 until 2050.

http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/defense/2017-08-02/france-and-germany-develop-new-fighter-without-uk
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>>139384132
>without the UK
Good news, brits are fucking trojans when it comes to cooperation, it always gets sabotaged at the profit of the americans with them.
I hope Dassault is involved though, by far the best plane-makers in Europe by far.
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>>139385063
Exactly. I hope this will be a Dassault - EADS cooperative project, but no one else - no BAE or other shitty Brit organizations.
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The pre-1940 French would be ashamed at this shit.
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>>139384132
Just don't come crying to us when it gets hacked by North Korean cyber-terrorists and is flown into the Eiffel Tower.
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>>139386780
Dont make us invade you again
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>>139384132

Can't wait for the first mass disruption and takeover of a drone swarm.

"How could this happen? Who could have foreseen such a thing?"
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>>139384132
o noes
we'll just have to wack a computer into a plane on our own

how will we cope?
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>>139384132
you spend less than your NATO GDP requirement on defense, how are you going to fund this new fighter?
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Remote controlled broomsticks inbound.
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>>139387139
honestly this
but at the same time who fucking knows
they might have super computers able to do the work of a hundred men and protect a whole bunch of servers etc
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>>139387327
starting a foreskin businees like your jews
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>>139387139
>Just don't come crying to us when it gets hacked by North Korean cyber-terrorists and is flown into the Eiffel Tower.
Don't come crying when your F-35s cost half a billion each and can do jack shit.

Drones won't get "hacked by North Koreans" - you are watching too much trash TV.
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>>139387269
>Can't wait for the first mass disruption and takeover of a drone swarm.
And how is that happening? There have been drones for decades and not a single one has ever been "taken over" by anyone ever. All of this for a simple reason, you can't break even the most basic normal encryption these days.
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Just make sure you keep around a plane with only analog instruments, maybe call it the Based Super German or something of that initialism...
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looks like the plane we have, except ours is so expensive I can't imagine having one without a pilot, because of the cost of making the plane
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>>139384132
>hack enemy fighters/bombers
>suicide bomb enemy positions with hacked fighters and bombers

They will always have a pilot to override.
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>>139387327
>you spend less than your NATO GDP requirement on defense, how are you going to fund this new fighter?
We have committed to up our defense spending to 2% of GDP by 2024 as agreed in Wales in 2014. This means we will spend 120 billion dollar per year by 2024 and France will spend around 80 billion dollar.
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Why should we be worried? Just send the SAS disguised as refuges and they will get in and destroy them.

The EU is a doormat. Just say your a refugee and they will let you walk over them.
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>>139387928
Your pic related looks like the plane we had to bomb England.
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>>139386780
>Shitty Brit organisations
Wonder where the rolls Royce engines will be made.....
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>>139384132
We already have taranis unmanned inter continental bombers being developed fucking eurocucks
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what are you going to use these planes for? you never fight any wars, knobheads
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>>139384132
we ace combat 7 now boys
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>>139387440
Meine Seiten.
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>>139387305
If only we had a company that builds rail guns and stealth tanks or the company that builds or the engines for them or had any superior American planes to buy......
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>>139388300
>"Burn Britain to the ground. (again)"
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>oh noes the Germans are coming
Germany has a fighting force of 60k, the USA has 35k spare soldiers to sit around in Germany for the hell of it.
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>>139388167
>Wonder where the rolls Royce engines will be made.....
Which ones? The Rolls Royce engines owned and manufactured by BMW... in Germany? Or the Rolls Royce engines which are manufactured in Germany?
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Wew. Robot warfare is when things become unstoppable for a civilian uprising. Right now, even though you're massively outgunned and out teched, there is still a moral loss when one of your buddies gets the bottom-half of his torso blown off by a homemade explosive trap.

With robits they just keep coming. No one cares if they lose 5, 50, or 500 drones while trying to fight an insurgency. They'll just make more. Their money is limitless. Your good-ol-boys with rifles aren't.

There isn't much time left to stop (((them.))) Their victory will be absolute very soon.
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>>139385063
>>139386780

You're just a pair of belgian bureaucrats posting on foreign proxies aren't you?
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>>139388210
>being developed
Sure thing there, Brit. You can't even pay for enough F-35s and your "look at my big fat ramp for my skateboards" aircraft carriers and you are saying you are building an unmanned intercontinental bomber?

I want to see some proof there, asshole.
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uh sweetie
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>>139384132
t. 1955
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Ahmed and Mohammed join forces. Nice CGI, btw.
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>>139384132
They're going to get hacked by China and immediately turn on you fucking cucks
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>>139388640

"could" is the key word there.

From what i can see they're still produced in Derby and that article was 6 years ago.
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>>139388638
>Germany has a fighting force of 60k, the USA has 35k spare soldiers to sit around in Germany for the hell of it.
Germany has a fighting force of 200k and the US has 8k actual soldiers (not medical personnel or logistics etc.) in Germany - most of them negroes and hispanics.

Why are Burgers so retarded that they keep lying?
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>>139387139
This, except China not North Korea
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>>139388985

>mfw China is hacking the Pentagone in order to steal your tech
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tell us something we don't know. Thats literally a copycat design of our new drones
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>>139389104
>From what i can see they're still produced in Derby and that article was 6 years ago.
Is 2017 better? Are you saying "just outside of Berlin" is actually Derby?
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>>139388483
reading this thread I'm so glad you guys chose the right side in all this, can't wait to split up continental Europe again
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>>139389203
the biggest problem is our retarted senetors who don't read arms deal bills. Isreali and korean lobbyist slip one line clauses into 1500 page bills requiring us to divulge tech to them and/or build special proprietary components with the info we give them. Its sicjk

Fortunately they are moving away from that model and sooner than later the US is going to give the finger to those that cant develope their own weapons. It costs a shit ton of economy to keep you guys safe
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>>139389231
You don't know anything? Germany and France are developing a replacement for the current manned fighter jets. Your drones aren't replacements of manned fighter jets, they are just a bunch of "look, what I got, let's drop a smart bomb on some goat" type of useless shit.
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the wing sweeps are key to the x47b design. Much stability :DDDD
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>Implying
The Navy was hassling me to join their pilot program for months. They are short on pilots like you wouldn't believe.

We are easily 50 years to maybe a century before drones become the main aerial force and even then you still need pilots.
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>>139387997
Sure buddy. Sure.

Your respective governments are not struggling for revenue at all.
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>>139389702
nigger my dad works at boeing defense on these very models. The military does whatever they want, the new drones can withstand higher G forces and carry more payload. Not only that but they are "seek and destroy" autonomous AND land oon carriers. Stfu
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>>139389203
Pentagon. Thats the name of a fucking shape Muhammad you should be able to spell that.

Are you implying that they aren't stealing your shit too? That we never let you steal our shit? How do you think you got nukes?
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>>139389117
Well let's just pull them out and see how you like Putin up your ass.

Ungrateful kikes.
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>>139387774
What timeline do you live in,Hans?
https://theaviationist.com/2011/12/04/iran-drone/
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>>139390273
>Your respective governments are not struggling for revenue at all.
No, we are not - actually. Unlike the UK, we have surpluses. We are damn rich, you are damn poor and spending 4-5% more than you take in because "muhhh, gotta spend shit on welfare and fuck".
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>>139389749
>>139389944
Gives me a hard on the size of lysol can. I'd bet these can already blow whatever fucking drones the euro-caliphate are building
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>>139388640
>Things that are true
>The daily mail

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Where+are+rolls+Royce+engines+made%3F
>>139389604

Culturally we are much closer to you guys. Us and you, the Aussies, kiwis and canooks, making the world great again.


>>139389604
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>>139390583
>https://theaviationist.com/2011/12/04/iran-drone/
That wasn't hacked. The article is bs. The drone's control signals were jammed, very different to hacking.
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>>139390718
(((Economist)))
(((Eurostat)))

We might be bankrupt, but at least we know it. You faggots are going to go over the cliff blindly.
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the F15 is still the US primary line of defense
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>>139387260
We already have enough troops stationed there to do the job until 2020 anyway,
Besides all their money will go on even more rapefugees.
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>>139388165
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>>139391069
Sure Hans.
Its not like everything with a electronic circuit can be hacked.
Mutti will invent you a drone that cant be hacked cant be jammed.
Then your hand reaches the water and you wake up from your sleep.
Drones are cannon fodder to overwhelm conventional defense systems and surveillance tools,nothing else.
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Would you consider the Tornado and Typhoon success stories?

I have a pretty sweet Panavia calendar lying around somewhere.
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Germany isn't even a nuclear country.
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>>139391130
Still the best air superiority fighter out there, arguably the su35 is close but fuck me the f15 is a fine jet. 40 years old too.
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>>139391806
Don't need to as long as we partner up with France.
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>>139391579
>Its not like everything with a electronic circuit can be hacked.
No, you can't "hack everything with an electronic circuit". Information is information. Once you encrypt it, there is truly nothing you can do.
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>>139390718
>Look at all of our extra money by not being allowed to spend any of it on our own military because the world can't trust us at all
>Look at our GDP being inflated by mudslimes that are about to vote to make Hamburg part of Turkey
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>>139390718
Besides which, if you are so unbelievably wealthy then why is it going to take you to 2024 to increase your military budget to something that isn't basically the equivalent of being a free-loading nigger?
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>>139391806
>Germany isn't even a nuclear country.
Who is France? They got actual nuclear weapons, not the sorry excuse of meme nukes you got.
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>>139390515
>He still believes CNN's Anti-Putin propaganda
Keep eating those bluepills, Jose.
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>>139392025
Sure,Hans.Keep dreaming about encryption and secure electronic circuits.
Except thats not how it works.
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>>139392107
>to make Hamburg part of Turkey
Hamburg is a shithole. I hope Turkey takes it off us.
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>>139392117
>then why is it going to take you to 2024 to increase your military budget
the steady bird catches the worm.

We aren't unreliable idiots spending us to nirwana like you guys - we actually want our kids to have a stable future.
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>>139392459
>we actually want our kids to have a stable future
>looks at germany
Yeah,you are imbecile,at best.
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>>139390880
My boss drives a Royce, fucking gorgeous. Just watched the how its made on them too, beautiful stuff.

Whats funny Germans thinking their cars are gods gift. In America BMW and VW are the known nigger cars because they have this great rep when they're really just expensive. Blow a head gasket and the car is totalled.
Meanwhile me and my buddies used a Saab 900 convertible for 3 summers straight and never had an issue

I even drive a Ford over a BMW
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>>139392459
lol....

dude... the most common german baby name in 5 years will be mohammed

you waste your money on social systems, like supporting muslims or bailing out greece then wonder why russia can fuck you
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>>139390878
well of course. I live near where they build some of them, which is literally a mile from Ferguson. The phantom ray was a private initiative by boeing as a prototype, but they function. There are two of these that were just sitting in a basement while niggers were chimping out.

Really strange to grow up knowing that
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>>139392692
>the most common german baby name in 5 years will be mohammed
Says you. Look at the most common German baby names in pic related.

Now look up Britain - yes, Muhammad was ALREADY the number 1 baby name in the UK last year. In Germany, it isn't even in the top 50!

http://www.firstnamesgermany.com/
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>>139392459
Yeah. So unreliable that we have sheltered you militarily for decades and allowed you to rebuild.

The fact is, Germany couldn't remotely compete with the US. The burden of carrying the global economy on your shoulders would topple you. Hell you will go through a severe depression if the "unreliable idiots spending us to nirwana" stop buying your goods.

The Chinese aren't going to pick up our consumption. Nor will the Africans or Middle East.

We tighten our belts, your economy collapses, because heavy industry is asset-specific and cannot easily be retooled for another purpose in the short-run.

Better lube your anus Hans.
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>>139390365
Nigga I work at Boeing. The only thing Boeing is good at is sucking the government teat. Please name me one successful Boeing govt program in the last 30 years that doesn't start with F18 - which was a fucking McDonnell Douglas program anyway.
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>>139392329
lmfao fucking Hamburg is supposedly your NYC, your jewel, some of the biggest ports in the world, and you have to give it up because your government is that fucking weak.
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>>139392679
While I would side with you guys any day of the week, I don't think any country can fuck with the Germans cars.
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>>139387646
Good goy.
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>>139393305
Hamburg is a shithole. I have been there, it is even worse than NYC.
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>>139392679
>My boss drives a Royce, fucking gorgeous.
Rolls Royce is owned by BMW and uses BMW tech from Germany. Engines are mostly made in Hesse.
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>>139393149
ooooooooo yeah baby we reopen some midwestern factories and you won't ever have to talk to Hans again
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>>139390515
We should pull them out. And stop all the lopsided trade deals that are in their favor and stop acting on their behalf in any foreign affairs and put tariffs on their goods equal to those they put on ours. I'll be glad when they finally have to start putting up with their own bullshit for once.
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>>139393738
I won't be able to talk to them in future anyway because I don't speak Arabic.
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>>139385063
>Good news, brits are fucking trojans when it comes to cooperation, it always gets sabotaged at the profit of the americans with them.

Nope. France is the part of Europe with bit absurd ideas about cooperation. The brief French involvement with Eurofighter is the typical case of French cooperation. French demanded 40% of production immediately while their orders would have made about 25% of spending on it.

>>139390878

I'm pretty sure Bird of Prey will never blow anything. It is tech demonstrator from 90's and it was retired in 1999.
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>>139384132
>know
hope

>fighter
drone
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>>139384132
Hey look, you guys are thinking about developing shit that we perfected over 20 years ago. That's cute sweeties!!!
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>>139392765
but the x47b (which is admittedly a better design overall even if it pains me to say it) is already operational
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Looks like a drone the US made like 10 years ago
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>>139394292
Looks like something which isn't likely to have a serious use, you mean.
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>>139384132
i wish we would have america as our partner instead.
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>>139393902
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>>139393717
BMW are the parent company of the car making side of rolls Royce, which are produced mainly in England.

Rolls Royce marine and aviation is owned by rolls Royce.

Try harder Fritz.
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>>139388640
>Consider moving to Germany
>2011
I think it's safe to say that they didn't follow threw with the idea.
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>>139394391

Probably not for the UK no
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The real shit is TR3B's anyways,not jetfighters.
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>>139389944
Of course. You stole it from the best.
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>>139384132

Remember galleons? buys us ships, gibe moneyyy
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>>139394726
How long did that tail last before it went to ashes?
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>>139393220
the new tanker. JDAM. MOAB. 787 (kicks the shit out of A380)

The jsf while ugly was a better design.

And there is a reason boeing defence still makes the F15 and 18

MdDonald Douglas knew their shit, and thatts what boeing defense is now. Get back to work before you sink another great company with your laziness. I moved up a generation to genetics and food supply

The two most important things in any civilazation are #1Security from invading forces (good job france)
#2 Security of food
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>>139384132

All standard propulsion aircraft are already irrelevant including drones

TR-3B baby
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>>139394607
Or anyone, really. I can't think why you'd want drones slaved to a fighter.
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>>139395055
This.
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>>139394726

>tfw people believe Germany invented the flying wing

>>139395071

Luckily no one is paying you to think
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>>139394726
too bad delta wings were too had to maneuver before computers.

>>139394950
lol or just break apart due to vibration like the f4

still a cool and innovative design swedennazi
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>>139384132

ayy you niggle nogs, should I even bother writing more? >>139390493

>I almost ran out of ammo, I had 2 bullets left after the latest run in with the unforgiven. There skulls dripping with blood that used to power their bodies.
>I arrived at Starvecost, A built up Trainstation in the suburbs of a city, My Daughter Victoria Runs over to me Crying as I hide my tears behind my Gas mask. I almost didn't make it, How close will it be next time.
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>>139384132
>Eurocucks thinks they're going to fuck with the UK and NATO
>Don't realise the EU is raising an army to force the V4 to take in shitskins and then fight Russia
My god you boys are in trouble
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>>139393717
>BMW tech
Specify
That's like saying warships use Vicker's tech because some things have remained the same.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolls-Royce_Holdings

From what I can see BMW and Rolls Royce did a merger to produce Rolls-Royce Deutschland, which is owned by Rolls Royce.

Now, the Rolls Royce motor car company are owned by BMW, but not the engine/defence building company.
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>>139388247
Bombing anti Sharia freedom fighters within their own borders
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>>139395348
northrup? full circle eh?
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>>139395348
It's retarded m8. An independent drone swarm, I can see a use for. A drone swarm slaved to a larger mothership, I can see a use for. But fighters? Literally why.
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>>139384132
Take this shit to /k/, it's not political you dumb nigger.
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passenger flying wings? Yey or ney?

They don't have windows at this point
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>>139384132
I just want to add that drones are fucking shit.

They're boring. You can't have cool dogfights with them.
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>>139393072
the men have only been there for a year and a half, give them time. The pakis have been in our country in large numbers for over 20 years.
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>>139384132
Piloted by immigrant roody poos.
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being a bit of a fruity burger i have to ask.... who are they building a new fighter to protect against? since both these eurocuck shitholes will be filled with mudslimes within a decade who are they building fighter jets to protect them against?
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>>139393717

>BMW tech

You'd be better off bragging about mercedes tech
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>>139395348
never mind the flying wing
>single person, no cockpit helicopter with a prop engine mounted on each helicopter blade
That's some meta shit.
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>>139388165
>horton
>had

>>139387997
>$120B
>by 2024

>>139389117
>fighting force of 200k soldiers
>ignore 60k quotes from the Bundeswehr
>most of them negroes and hispanics

>>139389702
>drones
>replacements for manned fighter jets
>can't read that they're supplementary craft controlled by manned fighters
>doesn't know this is standard MODERN military doctrine
>doesn't get that they're only doing this because they can't afford the fighters they need so they're trying to make the most of what they can get

>>139392025
>Once you encrypt it, there is truly nothing you can do.

>>139392173
>at least f-france has n-nukes!

>>139393617
>worse than NYC
>NYC sucks

PLEASE STOP I CAN'T TAKE MUCH MORE

>>139387928
>B-2
>RQ-170
>X-47B
>RQ-180
>SB-3
>LRS-B

>>139392679
BMW has the highest minority ownership % of any lux brand followed closely by MB. both are over 35%

>>139395876
probably Russia, they aren't a meme country
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>>139395710
did someone say
>tether to mothership
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>>139395876
to protect the muslims when the crusade comes
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>>139395437
>lol or just break apart due to vibration like the f4

Not a common problem at all. Of course you need to NDI flight control surfaces on any fighter because they take a beating. Phantoms are so tough that pilots could break the engine mounts during an over-G and the engine bay doors were sufficient to hold them in place. Sucks for the crew who has to lower them but such is life.
Former Phantom phixer here.
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>>139395876
They're building them so they can bomb their own citizens when the welfare state collapses.
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>>139396137

Goblin is a legitimately rad aircraft even if its not very practical
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>>139395916
So Germans are worse than Americans when it comes to grey patent 'fraud'.
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>>139384132
The USA Department of Defense knows that if you always make single bets, you're bound to lose hard eventually. That's why the USA does it the right way and spends money on everything so it always reaps the winning bet.
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>>139395916
i work for cadillac at hudson hq AMA
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>>139386780
>no BAE
I have bad news fritz
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>>139385063
>>139386780
Dassault Solidworks is a neat program
but so is COMSOL multiphysics from sweden
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>>139392173
so? France will literally be a muslim ruled nation in 50 years.
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>>139396426

When will Cadillac split from GM and be innovative again
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>>139395840
the next gen american drones can dogfight autonomously. Best part they can exert gs that would kill even the best pilots
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>>139396783
>Drones dogfighting
It's not dogfighting. Flying an RC helicopter is not same the as flying it personally. Fuck drones.
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>>139384132
>spending all your money on unneeded superfighter jets to ward off nothing
>third world continues to rape and plunder your nation into oblivion

Too bad all that advanced technology can't defend against half naked niggers swinging a stick.
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>>139384132
No shit France and Germany are gonna develop a drone without the UK. We already did Taranis and we aren't sharing.
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>>139384132

The USA is fucking retarded for selling its technology to other countries for a quick buck. Have fun dealing with German UFOs for the next hundred years while they snipe out innocent americans.

Fucking.Retarded.Amerilards
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>>139396633
i would lick that boot like a musty pussy

yum
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What exactly is Europe's endgame here? They seem hellbent on removing all heavy industry and manufacturing from their countries. They want remote controlled fighters and tanks, they pay people to not go to work and to just sit at home doing jack shit. They pay for kids to go to college and be retarded and fuck each other.

What exactly is their goal? Do they want for everyone to just stay at home all day and inject morphine into their veins and pretend everything is beautiful? Why are globalists so obsessed with removing humans from every job possible? For fuck's sake, 90% of telemarketing is even done by machines now. Computers run the economy, robots build everything, and now we're on the verge of replacing 90% of the armed forces with robots too. In 100 years everybody will probably just live inside little virtual reality pods where they pretend that they go to work and have a job and that will seem exotic to them.
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>>139396533
top kek
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>>139394410
I'm so fucking happy US is not your partner, and so glad my father mowed down so many of you fucking devils.
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>>139397008
literally jews slipping in clauses to arms deal bills.

Not even memeing
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>>139388165
W-we didn't steal your design...I swear!
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>>139396633
never, GM is a cancer that ruins everything it touches. GM lacks the initiative to assume risk, which is why SC is only L2 autonomy

with sheetmetal, you won't ever see that shit on a production car because it'll dent if you blow on it and has zero strength. we aren't particularly skilled at design, there's a reason you don't see cars like that on the road
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>>139397290
i'm polish tho

ehehehe
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>>139387509
Tell me more
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>>139384132
Hey, remember that one time we built a fucking drone in europe and they weren´t allowed to fly in europe, because we are a over-regulated pseudo-commie-shithole?

>oooooooh I member
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>>139384132
I fucking hate German over confidence.
Sweden would wipe your ass if we had 8x Swedens pop.
Don't get cocky kraut, you fuck it up everytime.
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>>139398354
You couldn´t fight us even with 800x pop, because you have about 99% limp-wristed cucks. At least we still have some based nationalists in the countryside and the eastern parts of germoney. Fight me in real life, faggot.
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>>139396549
if they make aircraft like they made solidworks i wouldn't trust one of those things to fly 10 feet without crashing
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>>139398533
>The guys that got bogged down in Belgium TWICE still think they can fight
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>>139397196
Star trek society in 3.. 2... whoops eugenic wars.
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>>139397874
It is American drone with EADS supplied sensor package. German taxpayers had shoveled 560 million € into program when it was cancelled.

>German defense minister Thomas de Maizière stated EuroHawk was "very important" for Germany in 2012, then referred to the project as being "a horror without end" in his 2013 statement to the Bundestag.
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>>139398533
We make much more weapons per capita and our industry would crush you if we had that easy home market and EU policy monopoly.
You are weak if you didn't have that mass of people faggooot.
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>>139389702
>Current manned fighter jets systems can be replaced by unmanned.

lol, no you fucking retarded faggot. Drone autonomous control systems are utterly unsuitable for air to air combat for the near future, and remote controlled have latency issues and would be at serious risk of EM warfare making them poorly suitable for air combat. That's why the US is working on manned 6th gen fighters. Drones are only useful as missile boats or arsenal birds for now.
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We can't even get a computer to properly fly a jet in a video game let alone in real life
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>>139399034
funny thing, the only thing they would had to do, was to create new legislation.

No fucking common pleb would have known when they would have changed laws regarding air rights.
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>>139399719
Or spend another 600 million on getting the EuroHawk certified by ICAO.
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>>139399716
Buy swedish so you are neither American or Germany's bitch
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>>139384132
are drones the locusts of Revelations?
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>>139400192
NATO'S bitch*
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>>139384132
german engeneering, nice
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>>139384132
Only just worked that out, have you. Why do you think we have two new aircraft carriers, but only a few F35, on order. We have been into drones for a long time.
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>>139399100
>if we would
>if we could
>if we weren´t

Lot of ifs, Sven.
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>>139396321
That's pretty cool
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>>139400281
Lol, nobody wants the Draken, faggot. Give it up.
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>>139395822
Nay. Sitting far from the center axis means you experience higher g-forces during rolls.
Would not make for a pleasant flight.
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>>139398533
>Germany
>Sweden
>99% limp-wristed cucks
PLEASE STOP I CAN'T HAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>139401042
You are bit late for Draken.
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>>139384132

Good plan Germany, develop with France, sell to Europe...and when you decide to invade everywhere, just press your little override button and all of Europes drones are yours.

See you in a few years France, whining to come through the tunnel because of the horrible Germans droning you to death.
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>>139384132
If you honest to god think that within a lifetime Germany has done something new, the USA has already done it and tried it and is working on improving it unless it was shit from the get go.

We are 50 years ahead of everybody else in technology which is why we are the WORLD POLICE, and no one will ever come close to duplicating or beating us in the technology and warfare sector, even our men and women are smarter and stronger compared to your pussified slaves you call citizens and soldiers.

We spy on everyone and everything, we see and hear everything and anything, we are the forerunners of the future, and if you really think that your shitty little drones will impact us in anyway then go ahead, continue to waste money while you die of an overdose of refugees you commie kraut pieces of shit.
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>>139384132
drones are dumb, all remote systems are dumb, having networked systems in your military equipment is dumb.
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I think you'll find it was Dresden that burned to the ground.
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>>139384132
Lol the f35 already has this functionality.
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>>139402139
This, only USA will defeat USA.
CIA is already doing it.
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>>139402139
>if you really think that your shitty little drones will impact us in anyway
Of course they won't impact you, you retarded burger.
We're allies if you didn't know.
But I guess that's burger education for you.
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>>139396299
cool. I know they formed cracks being post exhaust, but like you said nothing drastic
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>>139400247
could be anon, could be.

If AI ever turned on us I know what I would use.
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>>139403123
We are not allies, our CIA was integral in ushering in the refugees into your country and if you really think allies cause destruction via immigration to others then you are lost.
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>>139403123
>burger education.

it really is terrible. God save us.
We need to split off at 10th grade into trade, work or college prep. But "seperate =/= equal" prevents us from doing so. Unless we lowered age of adulthood...
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>>139403123
but I warn you gernan bro, the reason its so terrible is tying to teach nogs at the same pace.

No child left behind, even if they are dumb as a worm
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>>139403416
Kek, your country has gone from 90% white to 52%.
>B-but we elected based Trump
You countries (((elites))) equally don't give a shit about you and want you eradicated. Have fun living in multi culti hell where your next door neighbour will be a nigger or spic ready to slit your throat for being white.
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>>139403802
Yeah, I get it.
They're already doing the same here and dumbing down education so that the 60 IQ sandmonkeys get their graduation.
It's quite sad to see.
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>>139402193
GOAT

adama 2024 (bill, lee was a liberal faggot)

would also accept roslin
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>>139388165
>>139397329

Swept wing planes have been around since the 1910's desu.
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>>139397874
Trust the Germans to design a flying dildo.
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>>139406899
We designed it, but the Germans had to paint it black.
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>>139384132
>>139384132

in "real" war, the day of manned attack machines ended in the early 1060's OPkun.
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>>139384132

>thinking the f-35 is the only project in R&D history that has run over time and over budget

Mate youre gonna be really sad when your fighter drone is 10 times more of a boondoggle because its incorperating unprecedented technology.
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>>139407730

This desu
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>>139407715
So Norman Conquest of England was the last war where manned attack machines were relevant.
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>>139392272
>launch AAM from manned aircraft
>enemy hacks radio link and kills you with your own missile
How Europoors can even compete with Russian hackers?
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>>139392004
We'll nuke you before we give you nuclear tech.
The second you ask for our nuclear codes is the second Europe goes up in nuclear fire.
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>>139387305
or buy one from us
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>>139409202
>Go to change tire on your plane
>Russian hackers hack you wrench
>It explodes in your face
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>>139384132
>loses two wars
>occupied twice
>not letting the victors help design the next weapon
Oh no, that sucks.
>>
>>139384132
Yep did you hear about the manned fighter jet Iran hacked and forced to land in the Iranian desert?
Me neither because it never happened.
They did manage to get hold of pic related tho.
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>>139414492
Hope you don't have Wi-fi controlled wrehcn.
>>
The problem with thinking just drones is enough is that just figuring out how to jam or disrupt them would render air power useless. Can be a one trick pony.
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>>139384132
But do you Eurocucks have the 600 billion dollar "defense" budget to research and make them?
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>>139388165
Fair use, no copyright intended
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>>139384132
>france and germany
>plan the plane for 6 years
>no one can figure out a proper schedule
>standards are specific enough
>both countries waste millions and give up before plane has a prototype
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>>139384132
France and Germany are bad at video games and the african/arab colonists are even worse. Why would anyone care about their drones?
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>>139390878
yep you burgers have a 10k mph drone created by DARPA
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>>139387646
>Don't come crying when your F-35s cost half a billion each and can do jack shit.
You mean blow your faggot drone out of the sky without even being noticed?
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>>139391692

The Typhoon would've been great in the 90's for stuff that was available to europe. Its completely outdated by F-18E or F-35 standards. It took to long to come to market. The RAF is kicking itself for not buying F-15Es instead of Tornadoes. The Tornado has always been a piece of junk.
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>>139384132
Muzzies will have some good tech to steal from you guys.
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>>139391458
Dude, that is fucking brilliant. Thanks for that.
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>>139397196
>What exactly is Europe's endgame here
I have no idea mate, the whole place is fucked
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This is the front runner for the Navy's carrier borne tanker program. Can carry weaponry as well.

If Europe comes up with an unmanned aircraft worth a damn it'll still be a couple decades behind whatever the US has brewing.

and unlike op's post, this is a real picture.
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>>139423083
Bu-but you'll cover us, right? Burger-kun...
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>>139384132
We still have bases in your back garden Fritz, along with 5,200 troops stationed there. Don't make the UK increase that number.
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>>139399716
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>>139413687
These are fun.
>Farming for corn
>Russian hacker hacks corn
>Must now sell exclusively to movie theaters because popped
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>>139423441
As long as you have a parliament and royal blood line filled with Anglo Saxons and Jews, and as long as the U.S. maintains the same, America will never denounce England.
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UK is a weak nation anyways.
What does the UK have besides a worthless rock in Spain?

MI6? That's some fiction spy shit.
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>>139426830
>Us produce corn
>sovs buy and try to hack corn
>cant
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>>139427141
We have everything you have. The US just gives us stuff. You protect us as well. We [retty much don't need to do anything since it'll be a majority of American lives that are lost defending us.
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>>139427004
>royal blood line filled with Anglo Saxons
kek. jews it is then
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It looks like some kind of weird sports padding for vaginas.
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>>139427448
You trusting America to save you now is like literally anyone trusting the british before the 1950s.
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>>139427785
I'll take my chances.
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>>139387997
You agreed to do it decades ago, fucking pussies, all the good germans died by 1945
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>>139428228
Why? Because we give you weapons? We give Isis and the cartels weapons. Because he took a photo with nigel farage? He kissed the ring of the sauds. America is no ones friend but the kikes that rule it. If a war comes that could threaten us the US would sacrifice britain in a heartbeat.
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>>139427448
The US doesn't protect you. You're our meat shield. You're the little poodle following us around that we send in first before we get serious. And we can abandon you at any time. See Suez crisis.

You're expendable Nigel. You're basically Australia to us, nowt but a big airfield.
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>>139385063
Funny coming from Airbus, who stole technology from Britain, Canada and the US.
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>>139385063
Probably partially true but fuck y'all
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>>139428587
You still send your kids to war to die for a big airfield yank. We can also abandon you at any time. See Vietnam War.

You give us everything we need, weapons, technology and your lives. Thanks
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>>139429515
nigga the troglodytes in the military would have died for some other jewish bullshit anyway. I don't give a shit. I'm just saying that you shouldn't overestimate the strength of our countries relationship.
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>>139430100
I'm not overestimating. I'm telling you that your country gives us everything we need.
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All that tech is not being pursued agressively as new modes of combustion are going to replace kerozene in the next 10 years, which will allow for radical redesigns of flying vehicles
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>>139423441
We already have our own k thx bye.
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