What's the point of life imprisonment?

>>139369632
Pro: seriously ups the percent of niggers in jail and niggers in jail per nigger capita, etc.

Con: Deters crime less than the fear of public execution would

- not infringe on the person's right to life/body
- not risk killing innocent people
- leave the window of opportunity open for new evidence could prove someone innocent

It's highly profitable for shareholders of private prisons to lobby for such long sentences.

>>139369632
you take a dangerous person, and you put them in a box where they cant hurt anyone

or if you are implying we should just execute people probably because there are a lot of false convictions/people dont want their government with that power

>>139370390
It also adds the risk of someone like Obama giving pardon to convicted criminals and letting them back into society.

>>139369632
There really isnt
At that point execution has the same effect and will cost less to anyone who pays taxes

>>139370697
Sure. How many people have they murdered since they got out?

>>139370557
>only one correct answer in the entire thread

>>139370697
Better to let 10 guilty men go free than to wrongly convict 1 innocent man.

Freedom takes bravery.

>>139370390
Main thing is to remove the threat from the innocent.
>- not risk killing innocent people
>- leave the window of opportunity open for new evidence could prove someone innocent
Agreed, there have been some very corrupt court cases that executed innocent people in the end
>- not infringe on the person's right to life/body
These convicts should have respected other people's right to life/body, but for the above reason I'm for life imprisonment instead of the death penalty. But prison should be a "monastery"-type experience, no hot showers and video games.

>>139371425
it's almost like that's why most countries don't have things like that

>>139371293
Give them some time to commit their next crimes.

>>139371574
>These convicts should have respected other people's right to life/body

sure. I'm split between "two wrongs don't make a right" and the concept of giving up your right to life if you infringe someone else's.

>>139371591
Private prisons are bullshit. They also lobbied hard against legalizing marijuana, they didn't even hide the real reasons.

>>139371759
I know what you mean. However, a simple solution is
>remove the threat from the innocent
while keeping the prisoner alive in well in case the government makes a mistake, which happens all the time.

Crime University needs lifetime professors.

>>139369632
Removal from society, yet still leave the option open for recourse if the legal system gets it wrong, unlike execution.

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>>139369632
because it would technically be a genocide

>>139372688
if we just killed them instead, of course.

>>139372688
This chart suggests White liberal females are too privileged, and avoid all their crimes.

We should hunt down those white leftist females and give them their just prison time.

>>139369632
punishment not reformation

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>>139369632
Make money from privately owned prisons.

Duh.

society can rest assured they are morally superior to murderers and violence

>>139370349
But why not just kill them? If they're never getting out, why pay all their expenses until they die of old age?

>>139369632
>What's the point of life imprisonment?

To work for 5c an hour so you can buy a small bag of chips for $2 from the canteen and trade it with the biggest guy in the yard for protection from anal rape.

>>139377924
Life in prison can be a worse fate than death.

life imprisonment + labor. profit goes to victims

I like this idea better than the death penalty actually.

>>139369632
It's a shitty compromise desu

>>139374990
that too

They just want to make me pissed off because I pay for it.

>>139377924
Many people who are sentenced to life imprisonment are later exonerated and set free. Killing them would eliminate this possibility.

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>>139369632
PRO. some innocent guy dosen't die
CON. deters crime like this goy said, also fills up prison faster

>>139378149
no one cares reddit..just kill em, its cheaper

>>139378524
Exceptions dont make the rule. People sentanced to death get exonerated too sometimes. No one gets a life sentance because they might be innocent, they get it because they're found guilty and that's the punishment. Why not just put them on death row and if they're exonerated before the end, then so be it? It's better than playing babysitter to the vast majority of these people for the rest of their lives.

>>139370557
thread/

>>139369632
dont even have cops. let us sort this shit out like the old days. Youd have a

>>139369632
Rape jokes. Most of the good rape jokes I've heard are prison related.

>>139370697
This risk is so low to the population as a whole that its basically negligible.

>>139371919
A very refreshing thing to see compassionate yet non altruistic opinions in this shithole. Good job anons.

>>139369632
Anything over 10 years actually served ( not a 10 year sentence that becomes 5 served ) should be death penalty.

>>139380448
Thanks anon, good people just gotta speak out and deal with the flamers.

>>139371446
At some point (eleven people? pick a number.) that falls apart.

You might be innocent and wrongly convicted. That's a risk. You might have to serve time in jail without having committed a crime.

Freedom ( also from crime ) takes bravery.

Because making mistakes results in locking people up, the power to make mistakes is power that can be abused. That is why the number might actually be somewhere around what you said - ten.

If we were merely weighing the costs of victimization against costs of wrongful imprisonment not counting the costs that wrongful imprisonment could be abused for political ends, letting ten guilty go free to avoid convicting one innocent wouldn't make sense - even from a freedom perspective.

>>139370390
>not infringe on the person's right to life/body
What about the person's right to not get kidnapped and locked in a box for decades until their body finally gives out?
The humane thing to do would be to kill them, rather than cage them.

>>139370697
Is it better to pardon someone who hasn't been convicted of a crime and thus admitting their guilt?

>>139371919
The problem about making mistakes reversible is that time is gone forever. The reversibility has the effect of lowering the bar for reasonable doubt.

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>>139369632

Legal slavery in the prison industrial complex.
Also, solitary confinement AND life imprisonment.
Now thats where you get punishment that simple execution cant deliver.
You know, serial child rapists, granny rapists, basement torturers and all the other special snowflakes that need special attention.

>>139381979
Complex issue no doubt. Conversely, raising the bar means that people who very likely are guilty walk free to kill more people.

None. imprisonment is cruel. The bible had it right when its Law only allows 3 types of punishments:

1) Fines, if cant pay then Forced labor
2) Beatings, Flogging
3) Death

The punishment is determined by a Grand Jury of local Elders after a fair trail. Once the punishment is delivered, the crime is forgotten, so there are no crime records

>>139382130
If that's how you want to do it, why not just legit torture them?

>>139369632
Pro: Free food and bed, yo.
Con: Might get raped.

Taxpayer Pro: Don't have to deal with their shit.
Taxpayer Con: Have to pay for their shit.

>>139369632
Nothing. People who are nuts should be in hospitals, petty crime should be rehabbed, extremely violent criminals who cause detriment to society should be executed to save tax money. To please softies, prisoners who face life should be given the option of humane euthanasia until we grow a spine and reinstate the death penalty.

>>139369632
Choose your fate:
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