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Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.
Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.
What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:
>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.
>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."
>To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/
ML uses a philosophy called dialectical materialism, see here:
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm
It is recommended that you read some of the critical works of Marxism-Leninism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.
Resources:
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm
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Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
https://www.gommies.gom/fug/
https://www.gommies.gom/starve/
GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
https://www.gommies.gom/ohfugme/
It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.
Resources:
https://www.gommies.gom/ohshid/
https://www.gommies.gom/1984/
https://www.gommies.gom/guck/
https://www.gommies.gom/probaganda/
https://www.gommies.gom/XDDDD/
https://www.gommies.gom/wheresfood/
https://www.gommies.gom/benis/
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Da sdages of gommunism.
>Sdage one
Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.
>Sdade two
Withering
All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.
>Sdage three
Gommunism.
No beeple. No food. No money. Much benis.
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>>139352318
Feels good man
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1. Communism is the USSR.
The USSR is a socialist state, not a communist state.
2.1. Why, then, does the Communists all the time refer to the USSR?
Because the USSR is our historical experience of the practical construction of a communist society. We highlight the positive aspects of the experience of the USSR and study the negative experience. It is also worthwhile to understand that the USSR is for us a certain significant Symbol.
2.2 Communism is a dictatorship
Under communism there are no classes, accordingly there is no dictatorship.
3. What about the dictatorship of the proletariat?
The dictatorship of the proletariat is a temporary form of political power called upon to ensure the observance of the rights of the proletariat during the transition from capitalist society to communism.
4. But Stalin ...
With regard to the period of Stalin's rule, we can identify a lot of positive and negative aspects of his activities. But unfortunately, all-round propaganda has distorted the history of this period too much, therefore, without a comprehensive historical analysis of this period, it is impossible to draw unambiguous conclusions on the basis of ALL declassified documents.
5. And yet Stalin ...
We adequately perceive the figure of Stalin and treat him normally and without hysteria. Nevertheless, Stalin - though significant, but by no means the main figure of the communist movement.
6. What is the main figure, if not Stalin?
Marx
7. Ie you are not Communists, but Marxists?
Communism is part of Marx's teaching. At present, Marx's teaching has evolved into many directions. As for the precise definition, the terms "Communist" and "Marxist" often very much depend on the context.
8. Communism is the antithesis of democracy.
By no means. Communism is just a true democracy.
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>>139353490
but communism isnt related to socialism?
whats the difference?
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9. Under communism - all work in the Gulag for workdays on 24/7.
On the contrary, the Communists set their task to reduce the number of working hours, by increasing the productivity of labor. Ideally, we should work for 4 hours in fully automated production, the remaining time dedicated to self-development, art, hobby.
10. But wait! This is a capitalistic post-industrial one!
You are deeply mistaken my young friend. This is precisely communism. And under capitalism you will not get it. Communism is the highest stage of development of society and economy and if capitalism is similar to what I described above, then it turns into communism.
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>>139353649
In both means of production are collectively owned. However communism is the end stage where we have achieved a fully stateless and classless society as Marx says. Until material abundance is reached, a dictatorship of the proletariat would be fine.
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>>139353649
>>139353887
Further information on the two
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>>139353887
>stateless society
but communism is an authoritarian ideology.
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>>139354351
>but communism is an authoritarian ideology
Nope
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>>139352318
Sage.
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>>139354504
Counter sage
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>>139354351
In the regime phase yes. But where it desires to get to (and curiously it never manages to do this) is a proletarian based society, shunned of a government. I don't even get what's attractive about this end result, proles running everything with nothing higher to aspire to sounds like a nightmare.
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>>139352318
Communism killed 80 million people, more than all the people died in WW2
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>>139355168
Nope
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>>139355348
thats not true i see you have added chetnik collaboration & genocide that has nothing to do with capitalism
>world war two
>world war one
are you serious...
im sure that there is a lot of other random bullshit
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>>139355348
Fuck, some of these conflicts are before capitalism even existed as an idea
Ebin :DDD
(Y o u)
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>>139352318
Why should I support an ideology that has thus far proven itself too weak to defeat capitalism?
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>>139359246
HAHAHAHAHA that would be like saying the capitalist who owns the company is also the best worker. Jesus Christ you people are deluded.
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thats cool and all but where the food at senpai
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>>139355954
>>world war two
>>world war one
>are you serious...
What do you think caused these wars?
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Fuck off
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>>139363344
They were shitholes before too
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>>139363344
>poor countries adopt communism
Who would've thought?
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>>139361372
Why aren't you embracing the fact that Communism is Jewish?
>>139363280
>What do you think caused these wars?
Jews.
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>>139363876
>World War One was caused by Jews
(You)
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Reminder: communism is a materialistic, soulless worldview much like the liberal consumerist society the west find itself in currently. Like minded leaders, just a different organizational scheme.
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Communism is a joke ideology. The only way someone could believe if is if they're either 80 IQ or have zero experience in the real world.
It's completely inconsistent with the structure of reality. It can't exist.
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>>139364308
>Reminder: communism is a materialistic, soulless worldview
Yeah there's a word for that: scientific.
>much like the liberal consumerist society the west find itself in currently.
Pretty much the opposite. Read the German ideology.
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>>139364172
>Anarcho-Capitalist
(You)
https://thedaysofnoah.wordpress.com/2011/01/03/the-rothschild-1901-1919-the-secret-creators-of-world-war-1/
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>>139363876
>>What do you think caused these wars?
>Jews.
I asked "what", not "who".
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>>139366063
>I asked "what", not "who".
Jews acting like Jews.
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do you hate chinese people op. vid related
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>>139366192
Care to develop?
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Communism has failed everywhere it has been tried.
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>>139366412
>Care to develop?
The Secret Creators of World War 1
https://thedaysofnoah.wordpress.com/2011/01/03/the-rothschild-1901-1919-the-secret-creators-of-world-war-1/
How World War II Came About
http://heretical.com/mkilliam/wwii.html
https://archive.is/eh2S1
The Jewish Hand in the World Wars
https://inconvenienthistory.com/5/2/3209
https://archive.is/B7hr3
https://inconvenienthistory.com/6/2/3294
https://archive.is/91wv3
The Jews Declared War - Against Germany!
http://goodnewsaboutgod.com/studies/political/jewsdeclarewar/jewsdeclarewar.htm
https://archive.is/X2a4S
Judea Declares War on Germany - Fredrick Toben
https://youtube.com/watch?v=xe6npWo7Wug
Important Quotations for a Better Understanding of World War II
http://balder.org/judea/Important-Quotations-For-A-Better-Understanding-Of-WWII.php
https://archive.is/yhuQx
The Myth of German Culpability
http://rense.com/general83/dett.htm
https://archive.is/YcqlB
President Roosevelt's Campaign to Incite War in Europe: The Secret Polish Documents - Mark Weber
http://ihr.org/jhr/v04/v04p135_Weber.html
https://archive.is/A5hEw
http://vho.org/aaargh/fran/livres10/v4%232.pdf
Roosevelt's Campaign to Incite War in Europe
http://mk.christogenea.org/podcasts/roosevelts-campaign-incite-war-europe-part-1-september-1st-2012
http://mk.christogenea.org/podcasts/roosevelts-campaign-incite-war-europe-part-2-september-8th-2012
http://mk.christogenea.org/podcasts/roosevelts-campaign-incite-war-europe-part-3-september-22nd-2012
http://mk.christogenea.org/podcasts/roosevelts-campaign-incite-war-europe-part-4-september-29th-2012
What Started World War II: The Real Cause - William Pierce
https://youtube.com/watch?v=9VpPlAJLtLY
Zionist Jewish Role in Causing World War II
http://rense.com/general45/zzo.htm
https://archive.is/7Klke
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>>139366708
lmao
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>>139365884
Science is a tool that should be subservient to higher causes, (character development, expression of type, pursuit of beauty, etc.) It is not fit to be the defining aspect of a society. The last half of tort comment is ambiguous. Do you mean Marx's ideology? (He's not German)
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>>139366708
now on to black culture
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>>139367596
> tfw this is the proletariat you think will build your communist utopia
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>>139367713
> tfw these are your peaceful comrades in solidarity, they will total help you farm apples and potatoes
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>>139367988
well they're violent, maybe you can use them as soldiers right?
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>>139352318
>reminder communism hasnt and wont ever work
>reminder communism killed 90 million people in the 1900s
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>>139368116
> fuck white people! more power to our comrades like this!
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>>139352318
This.
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>>139368280
> we are all equal under communism
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>>139368636
> smassh the poweeeer structure, REEEEE
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>>139368701
working multi-cultural communism is about as real as harry potter
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>>139368636
So long gay Bowser!
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komunist garbage is just defective dna that needs to be destroyed. you don't deserve to exist
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Is there a poll to determine communism popularity among the youth?
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>>139354468
>feeling you're sharing the benefits
Sure, when everyone starves we all feel like shit.
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>>139357563
>>139359266
>>139361372
>communism is the most inhumane and inefficient socioeconomic system conceived by jews
>wow sounds edgy I'll take two
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>>139370812
USSR had higher caloric consumption than the USA. We'd being eating big :D
>>139371570
>capitalsim is the most inhumane and inefficient socioeconomic system conceived by jews
ftfy
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>>139353267
You will be spared the blower for this fine work.
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>>139352318
I'm posting images of what we'll do when we win.
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>>139352318
>>139373132
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>>139373215
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Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of rebolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism aggording to gommies:
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
https://www.gommies.gom/fug/
https://www.gommies.gom/starve/
GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
https://www.gommies.gom/ohfugme/
It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.
Resources:
https://www.gommies.gom/ohshid/
https://www.gommies.gom/1984/
https://www.gommies.gom/guck/
https://www.gommies.gom/probaganda/
https://www.gommies.gom/XDDDD/
https://www.gommies.gom/wheresfood/
https://www.gommies.gom/benis/
Da sdages of gommunism.
>Sdage one
Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.
>Sdade two
Withering
All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.
>Sdage three
Gommunism.
No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.
>Sdage four
Nod real gommunism. Move on to nexd goundry :DDDDDDD
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>>139373132
>>139373215
>>139373287
>I'm posting images of what we'll do when we win.
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>>139373522
I'm done for now, I need to find more of these pictures.
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>>139373741
You still haven't addressed the fact that Communism is Jewish.
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>>139353267
kek, love that this is always on these threads. when are you commies going to get it? pol is anti communism. communism is for dumb fat losers.
sage
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>>139374180
>>139352318
> communism will work in real life
> cant even start a communism general thread and keep it running smoothly
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>>139374603
Dumb burger, communism never worker and never will.
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>>139367077
>Science is a tool that should be subservient to higher causes, (character development, expression of type, pursuit of beauty, etc.)
Science is always subservient to class interests.
>It is not fit to be the defining aspect of a society.
But it is fit to describe it.
>The last half of tort comment is ambiguous. Do you mean Marx's ideology? (He's not German)
I mean Marx's (and Engels's) book "The German Ideology".
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>>139366858
I asked you to develop. You know, by yourself.
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>>139375228
>I asked you to develop. You know, by yourself.
Tough. I gave you information that backs up my statement.
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>SOCIALISM DOESN'T WOR-
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>>139377583
Um sweetie, this isn't antifa general, I think you've got the wrong thread.
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Reminder you cannot be right-wing and support capitalism at the same time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93cO8Dxtkkc
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>>139352318
omg shut up. everyday this stupid thread is posted with the same replies. communism will never work because of greed, and you will never change this board just like countless other fags have tried for the past 14 years.
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LeftComs
how do we refocus the mainstream "socialist" movement back to the workers?
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>>139378268
Yes you can, socialism and communism are certainly no less degenerate than capitalism.
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https://pastebin.com/LFMagdVr
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>>139352318
Stop bringing cancer to /pol/.
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>>139378268
Is Varg, dare I say
/ourguy/?
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>>139375573
>Tough. I gave you information that backs up my statement.
But I haven't asked you to back your statement. I've asked you to develop it.
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>>139382818
>unironically quoting stalin for inspiration
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