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This is a thread for the discussion of anti-capitalist nationalism. We support the establishment of a workers state free of capitalist materialism and degeneracy.

Welcome:
Strasserists
National Bolsheviks
Fascists
Distributists
Falange
National Syndicalists
National Socialists
Juchists
Jamahiriya
Ba'athists
Peronists
Anyone who is interested in revolutionary nationalism.

Not Welcome:
(((Lolbertardians)))
(((Capitalists)))
(((Anarchists))) left or right
(((Internationalists)))

Websites of interest:
Institute for National Revolutionary Studies:
https://institutenr.org/
American BlackShirts:
https://www.americanblackshirts.com/
Revolutionary National Socialism (Strasserism):
https://revolutionarynationalsocialism.wordpress.com/
Third Positionist National Revolutionary Forum:
http://thirdpositionist.freeforums.net/
The Fourth Political Theory:
http://4pt.su/
Oswald Mosley:
https://www.oswaldmosley.com/
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Essential reading:
Germany Tomorrow by Otto Strasser:
https://archive.org/stream/germanytomorrow019874mbp/germanytomorrow019874mbp_djvu.txt

Various works by Ernst Niekisch:
https://niekischtranslationproject.wordpress.com/

Reflections on violence by Georges Sorel:
https://libcom.org/files/Sorel-Reflections-on-Violence-ed-Jennings.pdf

Manifesto of Gottfried Feder:
http://truthforgermans.com/wp-content/uploads/Gottfried-Feder-The-Manifesto-of-Breaking-the-Thraldom-of-Interest.pdf

25 point plan of the National Socialist German Workers Party:
http://avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/nsdappro.asp

Choice of texts from the Ba'ath party founders thought:
https://archive.org/details/ChoiceOfTextsFromTheBathPartyFoundersThought

The Green Book by Muammar Al Qaddafi:
http://911-truth.net/other-books/Muammar-Qaddafi-Green-Book-Eng.pdf

With the Century by Kim Il Sung:
https://www.korea-dpr.com/lib/202.pdf

European Socialism (Mosley):
https://www.oswaldmosley.com/european-socialism/

Third Position Book Store (Black Front Press):
http://blackfrontpress.blogspot.com/
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Music:
Volk ans Gewehr (Brownshirts)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drAwiSG4slI

March of the SA (Brownshirts):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHboON6nysE

Footsteps (North Korea):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rA1LFD6xfi4

No Motherland Without You (North Korea):
https://youtu.be/zmI2yDAyWYI

National Anthem of Libya:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3rTBQ1qP2Q

Anthem of the Ba'ath Party:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4FwpVC9JVM

Marcha Peronista:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnncQKabYvM

Anthem of the BUF:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KtoKsT6fLI

Song of the fascist worker:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wDA0h6pZPA

Song of the NatSyn Falange:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0psF0cnLHE
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Strasserite Marches in Germany for anyone interested:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xc4J-wrGOKc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqZMwTSgNqw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEFUT2NL5Nc
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Hi. Reminder for all mad republicans to bump and provide your best pictures of green frogs. Haha green frogs. Just the thought
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>>139309363
>its like star wars mahn
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>>139309396
>>139309611
What is this faggotry?
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>>139309024
>spamming /pol/ with retarded /leftyfaggotry/ has never been tried before
sage
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>>139310421
>implying we're with antifa.
I'm here to provide an alternative to both antifa faggotry and stormfaggotry.
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>>139310603
Actually you are the stormfags in the real sense, since Hitler purged the SA. You should just start calling them hitlerites.
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>>139310777
Well, I unironically can't argue with that logic. Also, nice godtrips.
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>>139310942
Could you recommend me an simple introduction/synopsis to the "4th way"/national bolshevishm?
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>>139311634
This is the best introduction to national bolshevism by far. I'm not a fan of the Duginist stuff. I prefer to keep it original with Ernst Niekisch.
https://niekischtranslationproject.wordpress.com/
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>>139311832
danke.
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Questions:

-Why is racialism not as featured in Strasserite ideology? Ideally racial subjects would be the focus while still holding stalwartly to the social and economic principles, the two being inseparable. Hitlerist racialism + economics/politics would be great.
-Why do NazBols try to revise communists like Stalin who was effectively just a pragmatist who realized he couldn't implement the POZ of bourgeois leftist social policy? He also was a Georgian, not a Russian (who ruled over Russians, not very nationalistic), used Jewish NKVD teams to round up and ethnically cleanse nationalistic ethnic groups from regions and relocate them in Kazakhstan/Siberia, and execute Nationalists in places like the Baltic states, etc. He had a ring of Jews around him of whom he only criticized nearing his death. The guy was a sociopathic opportunist, whose only merit is enacting some kind of gay, hollow war-time patriotism utilizing a bit of historical Russian imagery but ultimately beholden to a rootless cosmopolitanism that is Communist ideology.
-Could Strasserite economic and state structure be compatible with the end goals of Hitlerism? I.e, agrarian communes of warrior farmers practicing ancient folk traditions and religion.
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>>139309024
Fuck yeah, we really need to make more generals like this one.
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>>139309024
What about National Capitalism?
I believe in single-payer healthcare and conscription.
I also believe in protectionism; however, one should not require a business license for most economic transfers.
Low taxation for the individual, high taxation for foreign companies (exception for industry which will provide high-pay for native inhabitants).
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>>139313683
How about you shill for your capitalist masters somewhere else shylock?

Why the fuck is pol so obsessed with making sure the workers are alienated from the means of production
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>>139313195
Okay, I take the second one.
>Stalin who was effectively just a pragmatist
Yes and no. He started as a true soldier of the revolution, but when he got the power he understood how fucked the revolution actually was. So he tried to change something, sometimen successfully.

>He also was a Georgian, not a Russian
Very complex shit to explane, but wait, Hitler himself was an austrian. Stalin count himself russian, he was born in the Russian Empire, the language he spoke was russian.
>used Jewish NKVD teams
He used NKVD to kill the NKVD. Also during his rule he recruited more russian in NKVD as in every position of power. From the beginning NKVD was 100% jewish, at the end of Stalin's rule only 40%.

>ethnically cleanse nationalistic ethnic groups from regions and relocate them in Kazakhstan/Siberia, and execute Nationalists in places like the Baltic states, etc.
Have you ever spoken with any of those Lathuanian, Estonian, Ukranian, etc nationalists? All of them have one thing in common - they hate Russians. Even now they hate us, for fuck's sake! I bet they would genocide us if they could. That's why we killed them, sent them in Gulags, etc.

>The guy was a sociopathic
Wrong. He killed only his enemies. Why not kill your enemy?

>hollow war-time patriotism
Every mass patriotism is (pre)war-time patriotism.

>ultimately beholden to a rootless cosmopolitanism
That's why in the USSR you could be sent in the Gulag for being a cosmopolite,

>Communist ideology
The main idea of socialism and communism is pure social justice. How can you get it? Two evident ways - cooperate with your bourgeoisie and urge them to serve the nation(NatSoc) or just kill them all and take what is yours(NatBolshevism).

In Russia it was fucking impossible to cooperate with bourgeoisie because almost all of them thought that they are our masters and we are their holops(basically slaves).
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>>139315953
Realistically, workers are the worst under Socialist regimes. In western countries, workers were at their best when they were manufacturing automobiles for $25 an hour.
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>>139313683
Why are you then wearing that flag if you don`t think that national interest should dictate financial transactions?
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>>139316225
>Very complex shit to explane, but wait, Hitler himself was an austrian. Stalin count himself russian, he was born in the Russian Empire, the language he spoke was russian

The Russians are a Slavic ethnic group. The Georgians are Caucasians - the people you'd call 'churkas'. Austrians and Germans are one in the same, just different regional varieties. Alike to Belarusians and Russians. Language =/= ethnicity.

Will respond to the rest in a bit, busy
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>>139315953
Because you touch yourself at night.
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>>139316416
National interests are in the best of the free market; but only if the free market does not escape the realm of the country.
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The most important thing you can do for the white race is keep your own life in order. Start with yourself. You must be competent, reliable, hardworking, and, above all, happy. Do people in your life trust and respect you? What does your family think of you? Are you capable of raising children? Racial politics doesn't have to be the only factor of your life. And if you can't achieve such things for your self, then the chances are very high that you are not ready to be a political activist, either online or in real life. Because how can you make a difference for the race, for the lives of many, if you can't even make anything of your own, individual life?

Always remember: we live in first world countries and have opportunity that most people born on this planet do not. Things aren't as good for us as they were for our parents. But billions of people in the third world would still kill to have the opportunities that you do right now. So take care of yourself! Work your ass off, every day, to build a good life for you, and for your family. Clear your mind of self destructive thoughts, and keep yourself focused on realistic goals. Work hard, but also do fun and wholesome things with real people in real life. That is very important. Nothing on the internet should ever take away from your real life.
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>>139309024
Walmart brand of natsoc general
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>>139316495
So you don`t want social engineering via price and tax controls then?
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>>139316739
Certain things should be taxed more, others should have no tax. It should be proportional, and certain industries benefit the people more than others. Walmart is absolute trash, however if Ford moved their factories into [country name] and paid what they used to, the people would flourish with high pay and a sense of blue-collar nationalism. Everyone should have to contribute to the state, however, at some point the state should be controlled by every individual of the country (similar to a democracy). But not until the people have evolved enough along side the nation.
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>>139316458
>The Russians are a Slavic ethnic group. The Georgians are Caucasians - the people you'd call 'churkas'. Austrians and Germans are one in the same, just different regional varieties. Alike to Belarusians and Russians. Language =/= ethnicity.
That's exactly the thing that makes us diffirent.
You pay much more attention to ethnicity and would not accept a fully assimilated person in your nation.

Katherine the Great was a fucking german housewife, but I count her russian because of her deeds and actions. Alersander Sergeevich Pushkin's grandfather was a fucking arab, but Pushkin himself was russian.

In short, as far as person is not a nigger/chink, speaks russian, think russian and count himself a russian he is a russian.
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Forgot the pic.
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>>139309024
This is a leftypol thread meant to spread pseudo-natsoc as a wedge to promote communism. This is the anti-communist thread you should support instead:

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