2020

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>>139303728
Keep dreaming.

sage

>>139303728
>arizona
>texas
>fucking blue
How fucking low can you leftist fags go?

>>139304310
When you go low, we go high.

>texas turning blue because of harvey

fucking dumbass. Sage.

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>>139304533
Definitely going high.
You leftists of suicidal morons.

sage.

>>139304627
Well it's Katrina 2.0 and this motherfucker is pardoning racist sheriffs. Not to mention discriminating against the transgender community.

>>139303728
>post-Harvey
You mean where a democrat mayor told everyone to stay after the republican Gov said go

And now people are all dead? yeah ok

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>>139305530
Just look at this piece of shit. Now he's coming to Texas. For what? Another Nazi rally?

>>139303728
Are you kidding? Whites will turn out overwhelmingly in Arizona and Texas to vote for Trump, especially when Joe's camps are back

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>>139303728

My datasets currently indicate that Donald Trump will commit suicide using pills and alcohol in the first week of November 2017 and the 2020 U.S. Presidential election will be between President Orrin Hatch and Senator Bernie Sanders and Sanders will win in a landslide.

>>139303728
>implying literally anyone outside of Arizona and the media gives the slightest whiff of a shit about Arpaio

>>139305764

shut up shit skin.

> b-b-b-b-but nazi


you sound like a dumb, brain dead shit skin.

I heard Hillary is actually in Houston right now, swimming from house to house saving transgender PoC.

>>139306282
I'm transgender and I voted for Hillary.

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it'll be more like this

>>139306054
good map

Idc as long as Trump is gone.

>>139306324

What was it about Hillary you liked?

>>139306387
>IL
>red

>>139306387

>Nevada
>blue

>>139306540
Nevada went blue in 2016. what do you think will make it flip?

Too early to say imo, a LOT can happen in the next three years. 9/11 didn't even happen yet at this point in George W. Bush's presidency. What people should really be talking about right now is the 2018 midterms, those are going to be what really sets the tone for the latter half of Trump's first term. They'll determine whether or not it'll be harder or easier for him to pass legislation and further his agenda.

>>139306469
I liked her positions on LGBTQ+ rights, climate change, healthcare, immigration/refugees, reproductive rights, the economy, gun control, foreign policy/terrorism, education, and criminal justice reform. I also like her personally. I felt she did a good job as Secretary of State and as a Senator. I felt like I really owed her one after supporting Obama in 2008. She bowed out gracefully. It was her turn. I wanted my vote to make history again for the first woman president. I wanted a de facto Obama third term. I wanted to protect his legacy.

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>>139303728
I predicted it a few days ago

>>139306651
mexicans out

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>>139306878
Here's the map that got quads twice in a row

>>139306884
Fair point

>>139306878
Wall won't get built. Voter fraud is a myth (unless you count Bannon and Trump children being registered in multiple states). You can't deport all the undocumented immigrants and they don't vote anyway.

We don't need a celebrity. We have plenty of great candidates already.

>>139306651

I will answer and counter with a question.

Pending how the crackdown goes on illegals voting. Nevada went for Bush one year to boot.

Illinois was a blue state too in 2016. Why do you think it will flip

>>139305355

ablooblobloo less people are able to go die in imperialistic sand quests that's bad for some reason because TV has totally brainwashed me

>>139307162
Undocumented immigrants don't vote. Nevada will stay blue. Obviously IL will too.

>>139307150
>Wall won't get built. Voter fraud is a myth (unless you count Bannon and Trump children being registered in multiple states). You can't deport all the undocumented immigrants and they don't vote anyway.
>you can't deport 11 million people
ARE YOU DENYING THE HOLOCAUST? HITLER ROUNDED UP AND KILLED 11 MILLION PEOPLE!
>undocumented immigrants
You're obviously a lefty faggot
>unless you count Bannon...
More evidence of being a commie, sick obsession with Steve Bannon. Fuck off and eat shit out of a negroe's anus. One more thing
>arguing with trips
Fucking idiot.

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>>139303728
Arizona and Florida are believable.

The rest is a fucking communist fever dream that won't happen until at least 2030 and that's only if the Republicunts don't get their shit together and actually do some governing rather than obstructing Democrats and being slaves to globalist jews.

>>139306785

>I felt like I really owed her one after supporting Obama in 2008. She bowed out gracefully. It was her turn.

She literally started the birther-movement. Her turn? It's not something you stand in line for...

>I wanted my vote to make history again for the first woman president.

This is all you really care about, you're willing to make "history" by getting a criminal into the white house, the ends justify the means.

leftists are so fucking stupid in the US, here everyone's in essence a socialist, but at least we made it work.

>>139306884
Most Mexicans living in Nevada are there legally.

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>>139304310
Drumpf is done for sweetie. Make way for the return of Hillary! Queen will slaaaaaay!

>>139307253

Obviously because that would be illegal and we all know illegal immigrants don't do anything illegal. But somehow San Diego county has 138% of eligible voters registered. Must be the nazis.

>>139307162
the state will go bankrupt before the next election. no money for get out the vote.

>>139307866
AZ and FL are all we need.

>>139306960
I can't see Oregon ever turning red. Portland is practically the capital city of American leftism.

>>139305764
Is it really that hard for your faggot ass to stay on subject?

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>post-wall

>>139307150
If voter fraud is a myth, why are you guys so opposed to voter ID laws?

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>>139307253
>Undocumented immigrants don't vote.

>>139307910
Donald Trump started the birther movement and kept it up for five years. It's why he's president now. Also he lied about it and tried to blame Hillary.

Trump is the criminal.

>>139308103
They are racist.

>>139308025
A lot can happen in 3 years. Remember, in early 2001 everyone was bitching about Enron and three years later there were hundreds of thousands of American troops in Iraq and Afghanistan shooting up hajis

>>139306960
>red oregon

This needs to happen

>>139308090
Is that 1984

>>139307815
I'm not denying the holocaust. I'm saying we won't let it happen here.

>>139308180
Yes it is against the law for black people to have ID in the US.

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>>139303728
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>>139308180
fucking lol, how are identification of Citizens in a democratic election racist?

>>139305355
Ike was Katrina 2.0 and our politics didnt change

>>139303728
Lets back up 10 months:

Nov 8..
' post pussytape
'post firing Manafort

>>139308394
Black people's faces don't show up in photographs.

>>139308316
You don't get it. By saying you can't deport 11 million people, you're essentially saying you can't round up 11 million people which would mean the Holocaust didn't happen because Hitler simply couldn't have rounded all of those people up. Either the holocaust killed 11 million people, or you can't deport 11 million people

>>139308522
I thought that was vampires, or native americans or something.

>>139308394
These unconstitutional "laws" disproportionately affect minorities, students, the underprivileged, and the elderly. These groups make up key voting blocs of the Democratic Party. Voter ID laws are about voter suppression and nothing more. There is a reason SCOTUS keeps striking them down.

>>139306785
Man this is some high quality bait. You almost got me. Almost.

>>139308664
This is literally the best they can come up with. Everybody in US knows that the election is fucked up with fraud. Literally the best thing they can come up with is ID is racist. That's how fucking retarded their argument is to try and cover their fraud.

>>139308641
That's like comparing apples and oranges. Even Hitler couldn't get all the groups he deemed undesirables and like I said we will not let that happen here. We will fight the illegal mass deportations. No it cannot be done. Yes Hitler killed 6 million Jews.

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2020 post GOPe-collapse in early 2019. Gold(/Purple) is the GOP successor party, California and NY kicked into tossups due to massive deportations and sanitizing voter rolls.
Trump wins a second term as the head of the successor party.

Lmao only bean niggers would blame a natural disaster on Trump

>Donald Trump does not care about illegal people

>>139308814
It's not b8 m8. I'm still with her.

>>139308180
You're the racist for thinking the poor "minorities" are too stupid to get a license. Most places require you to have an ID to get a place to live/work. India a decidedly brown country somehow has voter IDs for all its billions of citizens yet we can't do it? Hmmmmm....hmmmm... Sounds to me like you all are trying to hide something. Really activates my almonds

>>139308431
Ike wasn't as bad. Ike didn't chaise massive flooding in Houston. Drumpf wasn't president then either. He is going to fuck up when he comes on Tuesday. I just know it.

>>139308103
>>139308180

>>139308394
Just to give some context, we've got an election coming up in Norway in a month. To vote you've gotta show up with some kind of ID which includes Your Citizen ID which is a self-checking number (meaning it's not just a random string like social sec.)

It's impossible to fake this number, and you instantly know weither or not the person showing up is a citizen or not as they check the number and your ID in the national database.

How is this racist again?

>>139309013
Fucking Bull Moose 2.0

>>139309208
They are racist because they only affect minorities. How is that such a hard concept to grasp? This country unlike Norway has a dark history of preventing certain groups from voting and it is still happening today. These laws are also unconstitutional.

>>139309046
You wanna know how I know you're trolling? You're too on the nose. If you eased up just a little it'd be believable. Like you add just a few extra things you know will rustle the jimmies of every faggot here. Less is more. Now kindly never reply to my post and don't talk about my wife's son again

>>139308799
Ref my other post: >>139309208

But again, how come minorities, students, the underpriviledged and the elderly can't provide sufficient identification to prove they're legal Citizens?

>>139308799
Name one SCOTUS decision where they struck down a voter ID law.

>>139309208

The argument is basically that minorities are too poor, lazy or stupid to get voter ids. Leftists don't word it like that, of course, but their only argument is that it's somehow easy for whites to get IDs but extremely difficult if not impossible for minorities to do the same.

>>139309301
>They are racist because they only affect minorities.
All the ID laws that survived court challenges make it effectively impossible to not get an ID. Plus, only 20% of the US is against voter ID as long as early voting is kept in place.

>>139309000
Further proof your a troll, and a bad one. You went overboard with this reply. lurk moar

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>>139303728
are you retards forgetting California is separating
a democrat will never be elected in the next 50+ years

>>139309301

>This country unlike Norway has a dark history of preventing certain groups from voting

You obviously don't know what you're talking about, we slaughtered our native population in the mid 1850's, our consititution said jews were not allowed in the country.

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>>139308394
>These unconstitutional "laws" disproportionately affect minorities, students, the underprivileged, and the elderly. These groups make up key voting blocs of the Democratic Party. Voter ID laws are about voter suppression and nothing more. There is a reason SCOTUS keeps striking them down.

HOW do they negatively affect minorities? You present ID to buy beer. Are you also going to argue that minorities shouldn't present ID to buy alcohol?

>>139309616
>Plus, only 20% of the US is against voter ID as long as early voting is kept in place
Screwed that sentence up: 20% is against IDs, and those that want IDs are even MORE on-board if early voting is kept in place.

>>139309574
That's the gist I've gotten from it this far. Sounds like a giant strawman from the left to me.

>>139305764
he coming to drain the swamp

>>139309574
That's because an ID is a part of the institutions that have marginalized and kept people of color down for centuries. Before white folk came no one had need of an ID. Then the white man said "we own you now." Very evil. They then tell us we need IDs to have basic human rights. Shit, how many times does a young future scientist need to be pulled over and asked for his ID and then violently gunned down by the police before you get that ids are racist.

>>139309979
So you think non-Citizens should be allowed to vote in national elections on par with Citizens that pay taxes and support society? How else can you differentiate between legals and illegals?

>>139309796
Access to guns is a constitutional right. Do black people get to not show ID to buy a gun?

>>139309000
How did he kill 6 million Jews and millions of gypsies and fags? He had to get them all in one place, so we can do that with the illegals

>>139309637
>California is separating
epic for le win based teenbro

>>139310237
Are you saying that black people don't get a say in the voting process? I knew you Nazis were racists but we're talking about basic human rights. How can you be so cruel?

>>139309796
they pretty much acceptance that minorities are too retarded to obtain even a simple form of identification

I find it hard to believe that the government doesn't have the capacity to send each and every nigger and spic a identification card with their monthly EBT check. Liberals are clearly against this for the voter fraud

>>139309637
If california seceeded then you better believe congress democrats would push HARD for immediate occupation

>>139310822
>If california seceeded then you better believe congress democrats would push HARD for immediate occupation
If California seceded, the red parts of the state would request federal aid (because they probably don't want to leave), and all the military bases would lock down. At minimum, California would be partitioned and the secessionist area would be operated as a military district for the foreseeable future. End result: 1-2 new red states, and the libshit areas under military rule.

>>139310626
haha Nice try, I'm saying there is no good argument that holds water as to why voter ID should not be a thing. I'm a socialist by the way, I've debated publicly for minority rights. I know it's much easier for you to try and dismiss my stance by calling me a nazi, but try to at least justify your claims.

Any legal Citizen in the US can get identification today, right? Why is it suddenly a problem when it comes to voting? It's a non-issue with guns, alcohol, driving, you name it.

Simply backing your claims with institutionalized racism dosen't go very far. Do you have any examples of anyone being denied the acquisition of identification based on the color of their skin?

>>139305355
Fat people are not allowed to join military either. Most jobs are closed to you if youre colorblind. You don't have a "right" to enlist you foot loop

>>139303728
People in Arizona love Arpaio and Trump's response to Harvey has been better then the responses to Katrina and Sandy combined.

>>139306785
>first woman president
You should have voted for palin if that's all you cared about

>>139303728
you retards do realize that you arent going to see a democrat president for another 50 years especially after all of this childish bullshit that is going down?>

>>139307150
>We have plenty of great candidates already.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

That's the funniest thing I've heard all week!

>>139311829
Palin didn't run for president...

Wasn't it the democrat mayor who refused to evacuate just because the president told him to?

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>>139303728
>Texas
>Blue
tip top jej

>>139311390
The northern part where all the farms are would become a stronghold for the remaining Californian conservatives. The middle of the state would become overrun by Communist antifa faggots. And the South would be taken over by the Cartel. Before long it would be a bloodbath.

>>139311390
I want California to secede. Then we can find Sherman 2.0 and start a new march to the sea.

>>139307929
not at the school i teach at

>>139315662
It's almost like the government is taxing legal residents to death so that they can't have kids anymore

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Better 2020 Electoral College map.

Trump flips NH, MN, NV.

>>139304310
Maybe if he fucks up beyond belief he'll loose Arizona. Texas just has no chance of happening

>>139305355
>Well it's Katrina 2.0

Houston's mayor is a Democrat and he bungled the preparations.

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>>139306054
>Leftist prediction
>trump commits suicide based on nothing other than it would be joyous for a bernout faggot leftist.
>Bernie sanders runs again even though he was clear controlled opposition that was offered his own "clinton foundation" to travel around private jets for free, free meals and hotels, and new lake front properties along with more bullshit.

>>139303728
No one will give a shit about Arpaio in 2020. And if anything, Harvey will help Trump. Even the fucking New York Times is praising his response.

>>139303728

I BELIEVE THAT SHE WILL WIN

Madam

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>>139306960
>Oregon
>Red

This state and it's people are beyond redemption, we don't fucking want them even if this did happen by some miracle, the only solution is firing squads

>>139316687
If Trump gets reelected by a better margin than he got the first time, does that trigger the Civil War 2.0?

>>139318553
Sending the population of Portland to the firing squad would be sufficient to turn Oregon red

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>>139318553
im in oregon, and if it was nuked tomorrow nothing of value will be lost fuck this place.

>>139320200
No, but it may be a signal the Democrats are a rump party consigned to only regional control. If after 2020 congress and the white house are still Republican, then the leadership of the Democrats is both too powerful to dislodge but too fringe to win seats. With that being the case in this scenario, the Democrats are stuck until leadership retires, dies off, or defects to be a small part of some new faction/party.

>>139320200
No, but it will be the event in which the Democrats declare an open schism between the progressives and the neolib/moderates.

>>139309896
Criminally underrated

>>139306486
They just voted in a Republican governor because they're sick of Chicago ruining the whole damned state. Michigan turned with shitholes like Detroit and Dearborn, Illinois will be great again.

>>139311430
Andddd this is where the retarded antifa stops responding because he has no facts. Classic.

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>>139303728
>more fake news
remeber pic related?

>>139316687
>flipping NV
I feel like the deportations make this possible

Democlap 2020 victory depends on two things.

>condition of the economy

If the economy is good and unemployment rate down they are fucked, incumbent wins this situation.

>not having a retard run for them

The only reason trump managed to get elected was the dnc literally finds the shitiest candidates it can and wont stop with their sjw identity politics. If they can totally drop their ridiculous identity based platform and get a white guy to pitch healthcare and economic reform they stand a chance.

>>139320846

Interesting scenario would be a dnc split into a socialist hyper nigger party and a traditional moderate dem party, followed by a rnc split with the neocons and nationalists.