Dueling

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Yes, but only using swords.

>>139288418
Sabres are for faggots.

Epee is true master race.

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>>139288511
>Sabres
>Epee

Both are for faggots.

Longsword is the real man's sword

>>139288300
In what sense, exactly? What should be the extent of contractual obligations on the victor or the victim? What offenses should be acceptable for a duel?

>>139288511
Fuck yours bouncy shit, classical foil.
>>139289098
Fiorre is fun, but most larping fags can't take a pommel to the face.

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>>139288300

Yes

It was the finest of Southern traditions

>>139288418
This

>>139288300
>dueling should be made legal again?
Yes.
I want more freedom. I believe direct death threats should be protected under the 1st amendment.
Also, if someone denigrates your honor you should be legally able to challenge them to a fight to the death by whatever means can be agreed upon. Courts should arbitrate this process as a neutral party.

>>139289098
>Longsword is the real man's sword
This. Anything else is a toy.

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>>139288300

i support this.

>>139288418
>swords
>post pansy sticks
Jew spotted

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>>139288300

>>139288300
The past 2 world wars have already done enough to kill off all whites who possess a backbone. Currently, those who possess a combination of aggression, courage and pride just beat the shit out of each other and then afterwards if the fight was good they have a few drinks out of mutual respect. Don't deprive the world of that just because you don't hold value in the life of your fellow man and want to larp as a cowboy

>>139290484
>This. Anything else is a toy.

powerglove.jpg

I hope the gramma on the left won

>>139290740
>he doesn't want the legal right to shoot niggers that insult him
There's something wrong with you.

>>139289763
Whatever the two parties agree to.

>>139290423
But what would be the obligation of the challenged? If you were insulted and demanded satisfaction and the other party refused, what would be the recourse? Social ostracization would only be effective on the challenged in a society that actually values honor. We do not live that society, unfortunately.

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>>139288418
>using swords
>posts bouncy plastic needles

Only sabres allowed, I dunno why the west started using that faggy shit.

>>139291036
>only sabres allowed
>posts schimitar
Back to Saudi Arabia, sandnigger.

>>139291004
The courts could decide on a case by case basis.
This would ensure professional duelers would be shut down for trying to take advantage of the freedom. As for this who refuse that aren't cripples I'd say monetary compensation or tar and feathering.

>>139291036
Because in the context of bouncy needles, sabre has become THE WORST. No real fencer takes sabre seriously

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>>139291180
It's a polish sabre faggot.

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>>139288300
>tfw all the fags itt dont know that dueling was never made illegal in the us

>>139290954

kek you retard.

Niggers and jews are not worthy of duels since they are honourless. Thats how it was. If we lived in that society and a nigger or jew insulted you you could just kill them in cold blood

Last duel in France 1967.
Rare footage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e68nuAcSuWQ
In b4 muh not 2 death

>>139291411
A rose by any other name is still a rose, sand nigger.

>>139291036
That sabre looks really fucking gay as well, m8

>>139291644
because it is Polish

>>139291180
Sabers are the weapons of choice for cavalry and officer fucktard. Everywhere including europe.

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>>139291036

>>139291628
Dueling was legal until the Vème Republic?

That's surprising.

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>>139291036

Call my sword faggy one more time and I swear on me mum I will duel you with it!

>>139291036
>sabres
A sabre is for horse back. Not really a dueling weapon.

>>139291636
It's a weapon of the nobility, Poland was literally the opposite of sandniggers if you haven't heard.

>>139291644
It does really, but I refused spending more than a minute looking through google images.

>>139288300

No, but assault should be legal in the case of verbal insult, provided that there are witnesses to what was said.

This idea that you can say whatever you like without facing any physical consequences in killing society, especially men.

Imagine a world where bullied adolescents could legally kick the shit out of bullies, even to within an inch of their lives. Imagine what that could do for the confidence of young men.

The abolition on justified male aggression is the worst ill that has ever plagued Western society.

>>139291955
Naval cutlass then.

You have to purge the land of cultural marxism and feminism and shit before you can get to the good stuff like this

>>139290977
Double 7's and a very good response, anon. We'll done.

My question refers more to the intricacies. Should it be acceptable for one from the lower classes to challenge their social betters incessantly? Should duels be acceptable if the parties involved are under the influence of drugs or alcohol? Would it be considered abhorrent for a more skilled duelist to work machinations in the lives of a less skilled individual to lure them into the duel?

You're point is valid, but I'm curious in substantive sense.

>>139288300
yes

what I wouldnt have given for Trump to shoot Hillary dead on live TV

>>139292002
But what about the former obsession with LARPing as Sarmatians?

>>139291922
>he went full fedora and got a katana
oh no.

>>139291828
It wasn't since Richelieu forbid it. But it was condoned.

>>139291804
Yeah, as an ornament. Cavalry preferred long hafted weapons like pole arms.

Yes, but only for niggers :3

>>139292067
that's retarded. so a guy and his group of friends start harassing someone, he says one insult back, and then that guy takes that as an excuse to legally beat him within an inch of his life. then his friends would just be witnesses to the insult and the poor beaten bastard 's torment would continue,

>>139288300
Yes, with courts we have devolved into some abomination of a system based entirely on crowdsourced pity.

>>139292274

Nah it's the opposite of a katana almost. A rapier. Long, straight and pointy. Not sure if your post is sarcastic.

>>139291595
>a nigger or jew insulted you you could just kill them in cold blood
You can't just go around shooting other people's property. What the fuck is wrong with you. The white man has honor, so he can initiate proceedings for a duel. Period.

>>139291922
I always hated all those stabby stab swords with those weird crossguards(that's how you call it right?)
I like longswords more.

>>139291955
Tell that to polish nobility in the XVI, XVII and XVIII century. Duels like that always looked cool as fuck to me.

>>139292181
Literally a meme to make the nobility better than common people.

It's called Chicago.

>>139292067
>This idea that you can say whatever you like without facing any physical consequences in killing society, especially men.
This right here. Talk shit, get dueled.

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>>139288418
this

>>139292101
Of course one may challenge their betters, but there's no dishonor in declining a duel from one's lessers.
The nature of seconds, and their role in setting up a duel should mitigate that issue.
Abhorrent, yes, but not illegal w/o false pretenses - then it's fraud and possibly manslaughter.

Im not just gonna stand there while someone points a gun at me

I mean, does a flintlock pistol even really hurt?

>>139292067
No, the lack of free speech, and the justification of violence with those of differing opinions is what's killing the western world.

>>139288300
Absolutely.

>>139292464
>so a guy and his group of friends start harassing someone

So require third party witnesses, simple as that. In this day and age, it shouldn't be too hard to even require recorded proof of the insult.

If the harassment originated with the group of bullies, then the justification is with the one who was first insulted. And it would be personal. The group as a whole could not claim justification for beating if he gave a general insult to the group, only a single individual can be so justified.

>>139290189
You are murdering people. Congrats. You Southern folks are hypocrites to the highest degree. If there's a hell, surely the collective bunch of you fake ass heathens deserve to burn at this point.

>>139292275
How quintessentially French.

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Who the fuck cares if it's legal?
It's an agreement between two entities. The government has only authority that they write down and threaten with guns and imprisonment.

>>139292101
>we'll done
>you're point

m8 what are you smoking

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>>139292548

Meh I love em. Would love to duel someone with a sabre with it also. Hard to overcome the reach. Literally gives you a 2-3 metres of control just point the tip at the right place at the right time.

>>139288300
Of course.

Societies where insulting a gentleman gives him the right to kill you with impunity are polite societies where riff-raff rarely tell lies about their betters.

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>>139288418

you larpers just won't quit.

Just use fucking handguns ffs you autistic bastards.
it's fucking 2017.

>>139288300
James Yeager approved!

>>139292067
This is the most retarded shit.

The ability to say things while having the law on your side is the foundation of western civilization. It's what allows us to debate, tear arguments apart and make progress. Without freedom of speech to protect us, no one would say anything controversial out of fear of getting beat up or possibly killed. These paradises you wish for actually exist. Pick any country in the middle east and enjoy.

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>>139288511
>>139289098
>>139291180
You faggots never saw real sabre in your life.

>>139292673
isn't he dead now?

>>139292067
this is retarded
dueling is the answer to the
>talk shit, nothing happens
problem

>someone talks shit to you
>challenge them to a duel
two possibilities
>they accept, you duel it out, the winner wins and the loser loses
or
>they decline, you can mock them mercilessly til the end of their days for being an absolute pussy

>>139293101

Yeah faggot larpers who want to take the skill out of a duel. How faggoty of them.

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>>139289098
Fuck off shill nigger. zweihander is true master sword

>>139290954
>Implying jews would accept duels instead of going the (((legal))) route
Niggers probably would, though

>>139291036
>His weapon doesn't require 2 hands
What a faggot

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>>139293271
Forgot the image like an idiot.

>>139292928
Cigarettes...... I sware.

>>139293101
>>139293251
>t. don't know how duels work

the challenger initiates the duel, the challenged sets the terms, including location, time, and weapons used.

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>>139293159

fucking this.

The only reason why swords were used is because they didn't have fucking semi-automatic handguns.

you people are fucking fat, autistic larpers.

it's

pathetic!!

I can hear your heavy breathing from here, you cheeto breathe cock suckers.

>>139293121

Where do debates even come into this?

If you're issuing personal insults during a debate you need to be beaten just for using logical fallacies alone.

For that matter, public beatings for logical fallacies should be legal too.

I'm just saying that artificially restricting justified, natural male aggression has consequences. This is why there are so many school shooters. Too many weak kids who are insulted daily and have no legal recourse for their emotional pain. A good beating meted out to the bullies, issued by the bullied, would do great good.

It has nothing whatsoever to do with free speech. I'm not saying throw bullies into jail, just don't protect them with the law against those they victimize.

>>139293251

I can strangle you with my dick. Why don't you like skill bro?

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>>139293361
I prefer my weapon fast and not made for stabbing. I doubt I would even be able to hold such a thing properly, probably would have to start hitting the gym again.

>>139292849
It had nothing to do with murder you stupid fucking nigger.
https://www.sos.mo.gov/CMSImages/MDH/CodeDuello.pdf

Duels weren't supposed to end in death.

>>139288300
No you fucking fedora retard

Why is everyone on this board such a cringelord? Where all the well-adjusted conservative adults?

>>139293387

My point still stands mayte. I would argue skill is a more important factor in a sword fight than the whole "walk ten pace and turn around and shoot or whatever you decide it to be." Sure both takes skill tho.

>>139293682
working and raising families

>>139293462
Who gets to decide what is bullying and what is not though? You're assuming the law is perfect in it's ability to differentiate between disagreements and insults. For example I could be arguing that niggers on average have lower IQ. A nigger could take that as me calling him stupid. If the judge happens to be black he could very well agree with said nigger and now this nigger will have the right to beat me to within an inch of my life.

>>139293682
why do you care what 2 consenting adults do you fascist

>>139293606
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see
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>>139293545

>what is skill ceiling
>why is one avtivity harder than a different one to master

Whatever you say come at me with your dick if you dare.

>>139292695
Please elaborate on the nature of seconds, I don't know what that is.

Would it be possible for an employer or a wife to intervene on behalf of the individuals involved? Would it be acceptable for a military officer to prevent a subordinate from engaging in a duel?

>>139293827
>muh consenting adults
The call of the degenerate

>>139293925
hope you get ass cancer faggot

>>139293235
Yeah his kayak or something flipped over

>>139293956
>In a duel, the second was a trusted person of the principal (or person dueling) who would negotiate the duel on their behalf. Often the initial challenge to duel would be sent by the second.

>Once a duel was decided, the second’s job was to do everything in their power to avoid bloodshed (if you know Hamilton, think “send in your seconds, see if they can set the record straight”). No further direct contact between the two principals was allowed until the actual duel, so any renegotiation had to pass through the seconds.

>Seconds also had the job of setting any rules and arrangements necessary for the duel, such as finalizing location, weaponry, and rules as to the duration and terms of the duel. Seconds also decided who would be there to witness the affair, and would ensure a doctor was on hand.

>Basically, the principals just showed up and fired; the seconds arranged everything necessary for them to do so.

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>>139293954
>come at me with your dick if you dare.
Gentlemen, we have our first duel.

>>139293983

not an argument you triggered ren faire fat fuck.

>>139293925
Swords are cool and shit though and they actually require effort, practice and skill to use.

You can fuck off now thank you.

>>139293827
so much this

>>139294182
ass cancer

>>139294069
>(((kayak)))
pure (((cohencide)))
dueling would solve the jewish question

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>>139294260

triggered fat larping virgin mlp fapping fat fuck.

This thread: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dKwHOfd2dk

>>139294357
soothe your jimmes and refrain from mass replying because your shitpost didn't get enough attention the first time you cancerous furfag

>>139292849
>>sees fagistani flag --> disregards opinion

>>139294491
see
>>139294423

it's (You) triggered fat larping virgin mlp fapping fat fuck.

>>139292518

Uhm no sweetie, you would pay the owner the worth of the slave back or half of it since his property attacked you.

But duels are only possible between individuals that are worthy of honour and this excludes niggers and jews. This is how it was.

>>139294121
Thank you, anon.

>>139294423

You mad you don't own a sword brah?

>>139288300
Yes, but bare hands and ligatures only. The media doesn't need any more anti-gun ammunition.

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>>139294662

I own rifles and handguns. I also do have a sword.

But I don't larp with it like you fat fuckers.

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>>139293271
I bet you faggot never even hold real weapon in your hand. Longsword is not heavy. Even weaker person can use it BECAUSE it is two handed weapon you moron. Take real Hungarian/Polish sabre to your hand and show me how strong you are. Morons like you have watched to many hollywood movies or anime where "sabre" is some kind of alluminium prop. Sabre blade is about 85-90 cm long. Some longswords have blades of this lenght. But you have to hold it in one hand. Also weight point is closet to the tip in sabres so it reguire more strenght from you. Also blade is usually quite broad. Its a fucking cutting weapon ffs. You are playing to much video games faggots.

>>139294617
>his property attacked you.
An insult and an attack are two different things.
Killing my neighbors dog for shitting on my lawn without talking to him first would be rude. Do Germans have no manners?
>But duels are only possible between individuals that are worthy of honour
Nope, and spell honor right. Obviously anyone that causes offense leading to a duel is lacking in honor in the first place so you're point falls flat by default.

>>139294923

You own a sword but don't practise using it? Sounds retarded. Do you just own guns for showing them off also then?

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>>139288418
Real men fight with cards.

>>139295009
>Libertarian understanding of aristocratic culture

>>139291628
note that duels don't always end with death, but rather "satisfaction."

Germany still has duels. There's an entire fraternity unbroken since 1848 of dueling frats.

If you see a guy (most likely right wing) with facial scars, he's a member of the dueling fraternities.

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>>139295047

It's an ornament faggot just like every other obsolete weapon.

Don't get mad larping faggot, just because you are no guns.

>>139295148
I'm not a libertarian, they appropriated my flag.
I don't care about aristocracy, only individual honor.

>>139288300
>>139288418
>>139289763
If both parties agree to it, I don't see why not.

Civil matters only of course, we aren't deciding criminal matters by combat.

But if you've got a dispute over money, sure go ahead.

>>139288300
>dueling
No. Dueling is a terrible practice that provides an extralegal form of murder. Dueling creates a culture where men will murder each other over anything because muh honor, muh place in society.
What should be brought back into practice is Trial by Combat. It's still on the books in the US but everyone prefers jury trials.
The difference is that dueling by definition takes place outside the legal system whereas trial by combat is a quick, effective form of alternate sentencing.

>>139295275
In societies where dueling take place only aristocrats have honor.

>>139295192

Its not hard to own guns in norway if you want to. But the law says only for larping not for protection so you know. The state even made it mandatory to go to larping meet-ups at a larping club where you pretend to shoot people but really they are just paper targets.

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>>139288300
Canada is making it legal again but its so cucked it may as well be called tickle fights.

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>>139288300
>wasting more white blood over stupid squabbles

>>139293639
top kek stealing a truckload of soap?

>>139295470
Why because you say so?
I say any white man who conducts himself honorably has honor and should lawfully be able to defend the honor of himself and his family.
Keep that aristocratic shit in yurop.

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>>139295484

>" It's not hard to own guns."
>Doesn't own guns

HAHAHA typical noguns larper. Don't worry buddy, at least you have a ppffft...a sword.

>>139288300
why duel, just kill that nigger

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mcf9CLMQuRQ

>>139295009

stop ruining everything you lolberg faggot.

Jews and niggers were never considerd satisfiable honour wise which means they could not insult you since what they say didnt mean anything because they were just a dirty jew or a dumb nigger. Like the words of children at most.

>>139295759

yeah that guide rod looks reliable

>>139295741
Because that's the way it was you sperg. I'm telling you a historical fact. You think normal people in the early US duelled? It was only the aristocracy, i.e. founders.

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>>139295191
dueling scars are fucking badass

>>139295759

Like I said. You have to be part of the larping club and lar regularely thats it. Why would I want that when I like larping whith the objectively cooler weapon. I grew up larping with guns so I know which one I enjoy more.

>>139295051
My gravekeeper deck is going to have you shitting bricks wait when you find out I have 3 metal reflect slimes you fucking nigger

>>139295943

Hahaha, it's not made out of plastic like glocks.

fucking no guns.

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>>139296020
You think so ?

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>>139288300
Sup Elliot?

>>139295809
>lolberg
Nope. Up your reading comprehension achmed.
>Jews and niggers were never considerd satisfiable honour wise
Killing subhumans brings honor in the same way that hunting dangerous game does. Stuff and mount those fuckers.
>they could not insult you
This sounds like the rationalization of a coward to avoid a fight.
>>139296004
>Because that's the way it was you sperg.
I don't give a shit how it was. I'm telling you how it is son.
>You think normal people in the early US duelled?
Of course they did dumbfuck. I have ancestors that did it.

>>139288418
I laugh at this fools thinking they can beat a foil in actual combat with any other slower sword.

>>139296094

"people" like you are the reason why Americans are resented. Please kill yourself

>>139296250

>it takes courage to kill rats

wew

>>139296250
Your ancestors were midlings pretending at being aristocrats

>>139288300
it wasn't legal before either, that was the whole point

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>>139288300
Talking about duels, check out movie The Duellists (1977). I always forget to suggest it in the occasional movie threads.

>>139296397
I love this movie.

>>139296252

Ah yes. The slower sword myth. Great one. Swords don't have speeds mate. If I hold out my longer sword. Does it have infinite speed for as long as I hold it there so you cant advance?

>>139296342
Niggers are dangerous. Try fighting a few. They're smart enough to use weapons.
>>139296379
Farmers and soldiers. No pretension for being limpwristed yuroshits.

>>139296391
It's like premeditated killing.

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>>139296256

>Unironically insults one of the most reliable handguns out there
>Gets butt hurt when he was told off because he's retarded.
>"durr but I was pretending to be retarded".

HAHAHAHA, jesus you must be 2/3 turkish at least, fuckin tard.

You no guns larping faggot.

>>139296470
you sound absolutely retarded buddy, there is no way you're swinging a longsword faster than someone can stab you with a rapier

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>>139296558

>

t. pic related Amerinigger subhuman

kek

>>139288300
Yes of course it should, banning it was a matter which allows cowards into positions of power

>>139296696

Contextual. And I didnt say that. Swords dont have speeds is what I said. A cut has speed sure. A stab had speed sure. Swords dont. There is no such thing as a fast sword. It can be lighter or heavier. They still dont have speeds.

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>>139296744

HAHAHAHA triggered fat larping virgin mlp fapping fat fuck.


I can't believe how mad you are.

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I'd love for it to be legal to send niggers to the shadow realm.

>>139296944

and yet you took the time to type all those projections :^)

>>139296858
>being this autistic

>>139297210
don't feed the troll

>>139297268

Not my fault I understand the mechanics of a sword and you don't. Doesn't make me an autist. You sound triggered

>>139297210

Actually I just copied and paste.

Turkish roaches aren't worth new material ;^)

>>139296504
If you're white you're a "yuroshit".
Culture flowed down from the upper class, who established the idea of duels in that manner. Your ancestors were emulating European aristocrats.

>>139288300
I'm for it as it will force men to act like gentlemen again; condescending asshole types will go extinct in no time

>>139296469
First duel (before our heroes had met) sums up, how most of folks in this thread (including me, if i havent runned away in the first place) would act in the real duel.

>>139297632
>If you're white you're a "yuroshit".
Nope. Fuck Europe, my ancestors left for a reason. I don't give a shit about them or their culture. I'm American. End of line.
>upper class, who established the idea of duels in that manner
We make our own rules over here boi.
>Your ancestors were emulating European aristocrats.
They didn't suck the dicks of everyone around them so no, they really weren't.

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>>139297375
>heavybreathing.jpg

Swords are useless in the modern age faggot. A shotgun is more effective at close range. If you want to larp get a gun and have a sword to decorate your mantle.

>>139297931

Probably yeah. Someones first duel must be nerve wrecking as shit. The "heroes" of the movie seem more like psychos than anything really.

>>139297968

>

t. civ nat cuck

>>139296696
>there is no way you're swinging a longsword faster than someone can stab you with a rapier
So you mean you have never holded real sword in your hand? Rapier can weight as much as longsword. You can cut with longsword extreamly fast. Have you ever heard about leverage?

>>139298193
Head back to plebbit achmed.
Whites are superior under most circumstances and my ancestors actively committed genocide.
I don't give a fuck.

>>139297375
>heavy swords are harder to swing and manipulate
>lighter swords are easier to swing and manipulate
>but swords don't have speeds lmao u don't understand the mechanics of swords triggered TRIGGERED XDDDDDDD

nice

>>139298048

Contextual as shit as well. Not impressed. Is a sword useless if you want to cut bottles with a sword? Nah didn't think so. Is it useless of you want to be able to master it for the sport of it?

>unphasedbreathing.jpg

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>>139288300
>>139288418
This.
Makes it much more up close & personal driving a giant metal dick into your enemies

>>139298411

>what is centre of balance

This is like arguing with a child lol.

>>139298406

still a civ nat cuck though, Jamal Sanchez O'Cucktington

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>>139288300
yes, but no street dueling.

it has to be "legal". in the presence of the court or legal entity. agreed terms and conditions. it should be done in a safe public setting/area for witnesses to attend. there must be at least 12 mandatory witnesses; akin to jury duty; duel duty.

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>>139288300

most of minor misdemeanors should be legal
today its just a quota fill for the cops
getting arrested and prosecuted for speech, a little push, speeding or throwing little bit of litter is just batshit crazy to me
having two willing men fight shouldnt be an affray either
soft flake hardcore republicans that want to see everyone prosecuted and locked up for whatever is what made the west into a craphole where people are afraid to live their lives without being prosecuted
there is a big fucking difference between being a violent criminal like a murderer, rapist drug smuggler etc and someone that dropped a cigarette butt, yet the moment you do the latter you have 6 police cars surround you, put you on the ground handcupped, the the swat team flies on helicopter above you with a possible nuke incoming
thats the world you live in today

>>139298611
>still a civ nat
This is just shitty bait at this point.
Shitskins like you just aren't creative.
I'll lay it out for you. I want a Constitutional Republic where only white land owning males can vote.
Subhumans like you can't have a Constitutional Republic because you don't have the IQ for abstract thought and so your presence is anathema.

>>139298730

pic: the fuck

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>>139298728
maybe a safespace for you to receive your snapchat messages?

>>139298910

>basing your delusional "arguments" on your projective insults

toppity kekity

139299240
>g-give me attention
And filtered.

>>139296174

Our right-wing student fraternities still do this (they actually *have* to). It's legal because the injured consented to the injury, and the duel is not part of some dispute.

Training session:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoTOwu0FZnY

For the real deal they remove the masks and use sharp sabres. Also, during the friendly duel they may not move and try to hit each other in the face. That's where the facial scars come from by which you can tell the hard core right-wingers.

>>139299124
>wild accusation appears
no, a safe setting/area for both the viewers and duelers.

you dont want the viewers to get hit.

nor do you want someone trying to harm one of the duelers before the duel.

>>139299457

"our" as in Austria, Germany, Switzerland

>>139299457

Hab schon einige Paukböden gesehen :p

>>139292650
Underrated.

>>139299506
you're a snowflake pussy that is all
more regulations, more laws, less freedom
taking away the right to hit people is self-damaging, you should have the balls to defend yourself, but then again no one should want to hit others unless there is a reason for it
you're just a pussy admit it, you need others to regulate your activities because you're a little baby
unless grevious body harm is done, physical contact shouldnt be an issue
your thinking is the reason the world operates on lawsuits for just about anything, soon they are going to charge you taxes for how much you breath.. maybe thats exactly what you want..of course with at least 12 juries observing you since the CCTV and your implanted chipset just isnt enough

>>139288300
it was illegal mostly everywhere in the 1800's but people still did it. It's cause the law didn't mean shit when two men had to sort something out. Preferably both using swords, although pistols are pretty cool too.

>>139299999
going digit fishing

>>139299995
^word

thanks to assholes like >>139299506
now there is a law for everything because they need to government to babysit them and protect them

>>139288300
>implying the majority of duels wouldn't just degrade into a gang shootout
>not saying that this isn't favorable, but it could hurt bystanders

>>139299995

in Germany in Austria it was not only legal but even encouraged.
I think we had the greatest duel culture over here.

Hitler had to outlaw it because some of his best men killed each other in duels and deprived the nation of their skills in times of need.

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>>139292849
>Cuckistani flag
Why are you even posting, my dude?

>>139300361
sounds to me like it would have been better to weed out the losers and keep the better ones

but if you speak of times of need i guess even the africans were needed in the ss

>>139300361
>some of his best men killed each other in duels
fucking kek no wonder they made it illegal in Britain they would find the island a thousand years from now and every last inhabitant would have been killed of for having done some inane offense like dropping a cigarette in front of someone.

>>139300508

No that is absolutely retarded. Remember a guy like Goebbels who is a good guy and talented gets into a feud with some quarrelsome fencer who is 6'7" and gets killed.

>no genius Propagandaminister
>some guy who is good at fencing is supposed to replace him because he killed him
>???

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>>139298576
HERETIC

>I am right if I kick your ass

Literally the retarded antifa way of thinking.

>>139300723
then maybe he shouldnt get into a feud with someone who is 6'7"

when you're someone like goebbels, id think you be smart enough not to walk into a death trap

the whole point of a duel is on willingness to commit

goebbels had plenty of duels himself inside political circles, just in a different way.

>>139293682
Your not an adult

>>139301155

I am not against duels per se but I dont want it to become that overboarding societal plague again where people stab each other for mere words because of social pressure

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>>139288418
Swords favored Chads. You have a better chance in pistol duel when trying to keep Chad away from your qt3.14 virgin gf.

>>139297375
>>139296858
>>139296470
t. Skallagrimcuck
>>139296252
You know I won't stop swinging my sword if you stab me.
Go ahead, stab me anywhere you want, I'll make sure my swing is lethal.

>>139301565
nothing should be about societal pressure, everything should be about best individual decisions that make up the best society

>>139301826

That is not how humans work though

>>139301993
Humans are not made to live in large societies.
What are you going to do about it^

>>139301993

it is your choice whether you live for societal expectations or for your own self

if you expect the fulfillment of your own well-being dependent on societal expectation, then its the problem with the system (which you facilitate) not the intrinsic problem with a human nature

>>139288300
ABSOLUTELY.

>>139301812

The only point I am making is that speed is something you attribute to motions. You don't have to be an expert to understand this and I don't get why anyone would argue that a sword has speed, like a complete retard.

>>139288300
A mutually agreed upon duel should absolutely be made legal. The first should be Gore v. Bush......

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we had a sword dueling with ponchos and big daggers (facones)

>>139296250
>MY ANCESTOR :)

Modern pistols do too much damage for duels. Back in the 1800s it was rather common for men to shoot each other and then die later from infection or something besides actually being shot. I think it would be rather hilarious to have modern medicine combined with primitive flintlock pistol and ball ammunition duels. Mark Twain writes a bit about the practice, in one anecdote he mentions a guy getting shot a few times and then riding his horse home with a stern face as though he hadn't just been shot.

>>139296094
the XD-40 is made out of plastic though...

>>139305080
>Modern pistols do too much damage for duels

a musket ball was way higher caliber than todays bullets. This is a load of shit.

Howerver medicine was very primitive.

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>>139288300
Yes. We need dueling.

You should be able to challenge some one to a duel, meet up at the courthouse for your county.

Challenger chooses the time
Challengee chooses the weapons.

State approved weapons vary but should include;
>Blackpowder pistols (for pussies, very likely to survive)
>Rapier (Deadly, and quick, but still likely not to die from a rapier wound)
>Long Swords (For those who follow the german tradition and just want to chop their opponents head in half)

>>139293640
Traditionally, most duels didn't end in death, but it did happen from time to time. I figure if a shit talker loses a hand, the problem tends to go away.

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>>139288300
All they have to do is make it so the shadow realm isn't a punishment.

>>139295047
>implying being a larping faggot is practicing
>Implying SCA faglords know the difference between harnesfechten and blousefechten
>Implying larping faggots would fucking die in an actual dueling culture.

>>139295394
It creates a culture in which men don't talk shit unless they're willing to die for it.

Dueling eliminates the 'liberals' problem quite handily.

>>139293420

top kek

>>139296744

oh my God... even the fucking dog is obese

>>139307662
T=mv^2

The increased muzzle-velocity of modern weapons makes them far more dangerous than a classic higher-caliber weapon.

Also; you don't duel with muskets, you duel with pistols you fucking retard.

>>139309259

I imply none of that. Was having some bants with the other gentleman. Sorry not sorry. I am pretty skillful with both swords and guns because of my "larping."

>>139310005
>learn the actual martial art you fucking faggot.

>>139296744
>that guy in the middle who is clearly thinking 'dear god, I had no idea reddit was so full of fags, fuck this'

>>139288300
As long as it's both consentual

>>139309344
You're under no obligation to accept a duel if the challenger is beneath you. And conservatives are, as they like to point out at any opportunity, un-elite pleb scum in tune with the halfwitted common man who infests this country. Go gouge each others' eyes out in the dirt, poorfag. We runnin shit.

How does dueling prove you're superior at anything other then having the less shitty gun?
Also, wouldn't both people die fairly often? It's not like you always stop shooting when you've been shot, especially with those shitty guns.

>>139310063

You must have some kind of issue with reading. We were just calling practising larping, are you not getting this? Wether you train sword fighting by cutting bottles or sparring against someone it could still be called larping. As in the purpose is to get better at it and not actually trying to kill another guy, which is where we drew the line for what was larping and what wasn't in our bantz.

>>139288300
>reintroduce duels
>whites chimp out about everything
>muh honor
>muh honor
>1000 dead in the first week alone
>rubbing hands intensifies

>>139310460

There are people who larp with swords (SCA, associated faggot communities)

There are people who reconstruct western martial arts that happen to include swords.

These are different groups.

Larping faggots are just that; larping faggots.

>>139310196
Top kek... we don't have a 'cowardice' shaming-factor in our society any more so...

Guess we'll have to legally mandate you're acceptance, cityboi

>>139288300
It's still legal in Ky

>>139310616

Yeah you're missing the point my dude. The joke was that everything that isn't life or death was larping. A joke. Sorry you didn't get it.

>>139310909
>I was only pretending to be retarded

If you don't know the difference between the faggots, and the practitioners, you're one of the faggots.

kys

>>139311093

Lol wth are you talking about? I'm not saying anyone pretended to be retarded. Read the back and forth between me and the post I originally replied to if you wanna understand the joke. You are the only retard here brah.

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>>139288300
Yes

>>139310202
it's not about proving or winning anything, it's just two dudes slinging some holes in each other. for honor and respect. not sure if a leaf would understand that

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I dueled my brother last week right next to a cop. He didn't say shit when I pulled my blue eyes white dragon. In fact he just laughed and walked away.

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>>139309344
This.

Only reason people talk shit like they do today is even though they may hate the cops, there's really no legal way to do anything about it and so skinny fags and limp-wrist lefties talk all the shit they want without consequence.

Bring duels back and it's a whole other story.

>>139293682
>well-adjusted
>conservative

Pick one and only one.

>>139296252
I've done HEMA and fencing. I can tell you, fencing's just a bloody game m8. Even a novice sword fighter would slaughter a fencing champion, they're vastly different skill sets.

>>139288300
god I wish it was. That'd be so much easier just shooting people rather then suing them.

>>139288300
That's Alexander Hamilton v. William Burr right?

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>>139297375
Not my fault I understand the mechanics of a sword and you don't.

Under stand your ground law, as long as both sides agree to the duel on the spot and don't leave, you can legally duel. You mutually threatened each other and then stood your ground.

>>139296397
>>139296469

Watch Kubrick's most underrated film, Barry Lyndon. Ridley Scott was inspired to make The Duellists after seeing Barry Lyndon.

Trampolines at dawn, faggots.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYEttAOt_nM

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>>139288418
Whatever happened to two men barefist going to town on each other in the ring?

Martial arts ability and sheer strength is the biggest testament to your quality as a man without a dumb highly specialized skill like fencing that only 0.1% of the population actually practices like >>139288418 says.

>>139288300
As long as both sides consent to the violence and they make sure nobody else is getting injured or having their freedoms subverted.

>>139315787
This is the only solution for a true Chad nationalist. The weak should fear the strong.

>Literally everyone in society gets swole to be ready for when they're legally challenged to a barefist fight to the death.
>Everyone becomes high test and therefore conservative

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>>139288300
fit me 1v1 wildy then noob no prayer faggot

>>139309344
>>139312912
Now that I think about it, it actually solves the Juden problem. Unless you're commuted to a cause, you won't risk your life over it. This means people being subversive for the sake of their own interests will be pushed out of the political arena pretty easily.

>>139288300
OP can you make a "Monomachy general" and remake the thread?

>>139316429
>no prayer
>wearing a set dedicated to the god of war
>using a shield, but not a weapon
I bet you scam stake duels

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>>139310202
Those ages that have outlawed it (and many hundreds have) have replaced it largely with murder - and with just such murders, by and large, as dueling seems designed to prevent: murders resulting from quarrels among families, friends, and acquaintances. In these cases two die instead of one, for the law tracks down the slayer (a person not by disposition a criminal but by change) and slays him, as though his death would restore his victim's life. Thus if, say, a thousand legal combats between individuals resulted in a thousand deaths (which is very unlikely, since most such combats do not terminate in death) but prevented five hundred murders, the state would be no worse. Furthermore, the survivor of such a combat is likely to be the individual most suited to defending the state, and also the most suited to engendering healthy children; while there is no survivor of most murders, and the murderer (were he to survive) is likely to be only vicious, and not strong, quick, or intelligent.

>>139313741

Heh good joke I'd tip my hat if I had one. Still no such thing as speedy swords.

>>139288300
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dPKdgTQtjs

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>>139317942
Pic related is literally you.

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I demand satisfaction!

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bend over cucks

>>139292849
Have you ever read...
The Three Musketeers?
Depicts a society where walking on the wrong person's foot will lead to a duel.
Europe was like the far west, with the fondation make-up in addition.

Pistol dueling no, gamble dueling yes.

My friends have a culture where any claim can and often is met with a dollar bet challenge. If you can't dollar up, then the words you said are pretty worthless.

It doesn't happen as much as it used to. We are all older, wiser and more cautious with out words. Either way though, if you can't bet on your belief, then you should discard your belief.

>>139288300

I can imagine a lot of men dying over stupid shit, consensual fist fights should be a thing though.

>>139321424
pretty sure no one gives a fuck so long as no charges are pressed

>>139288300
Yes, but only with .44 Magnums.

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>>139288300
no, dueling's condemned by the church

Duelling was banned everywhere for a reason, and its not humanistic morals or whatever - but because its huge waste of resources: with valuable persons dieing dumbly, especially in military.

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there is literally no reason why people shouldnt have the right to trial by combat

at least gladiator matches between death row inmates, I mean they're going to die anyway so who fucking cares?

>>139322049
Most duels weren't to the death. To first blood.

It was actually very unusual for someone to die in a duel

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>>139322049
>>139322127
this reminds me

suicide should be legal too. Why be a scale to the state if you don't want to be part of it anymore? If something displeases you so much you should have the right to do so.

>>139322446
slave*

>>139322433
Bretters were pretty much legal assassins.

>>139322510
I don't know, I'm talking about duels in America. They were basically ways to settle disputes among young men in a rather harmless, but conclusive way

>>139322446
>suicide is illegal

what? what the fuck are they going to do, charge you with killing yourself?

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>>139288300
Only if you dont have a culture based on shame and honour as it compels high value individuals to not lose face and risk their life which was the reason it was forbidden in the first place.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9e6XE4E0Rvk

>>139322127
because then the best warrior could get away with high treason or even just raping your mother

>>139322743
stop you, call you crazy, tie you up and trow you in a room

>>139322824
even the best warrior could slip up and it would only take 1 mistake to have his life ended

>>139322824
Well, then the government better hire the best warriors then, shouldn't they?

>>139288300
nah we are too far gone into hedonism, there is no honor any more.

>>139291411
>polish sabre
>4chan logo

>>139288300
i unironically think yes
however dueling code should be updated

>>139301640
Guns allowed weak genes to flourish

>>139288300
No

If you like dueling then you're a massive faggot that deserves to go to prison. It's fucking murder.

Nuff said.

>>139322824
there is a difference between treason/ raping and dishonoring somebody

you don't ask for a duel somebody who backstabbed you or fucked your mother, they don't have honor in the first place

if don't understand what a duel is don't bother in teh discussion

>>139290551
LIIIIQUIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIID

>>139327067
You've already lost
>Teleports behind you
Nothing personal Jamal.

>>139327067
No, its self defense

>>139320586

GET IN HERE

>>139293235
>>139294069
>>139294327
Missed the part where he was taking his underage girlfriend out to fuck on an island and his sword fell in the water and he drowned trying to retrieve it. Legend

>>139288300
Only with sabres

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>>139295051
This

If two people enter into single combat of their own volition I think that nobody should have the right to stop them. Rules of course should be agreed upon first and enforced.

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>>139288300

>swords are incapable of motion

t. brainlet

>>139288300
Its a sport. 25m pistol

>>139292849
>kekistani
opinion discarded