Germany closing in on fusion energy breakthrough

>>139199007

>Falling for the fusion meme

Every year or so, some group claims to have discovered feasible cold fusion and every year, some investors get conned out of money.

>>139199007
inb4 it gets copied.

>>139199200
stellarator is not cold fusion, retard
thorium is the mid term way to go, though

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>>139199007
by not sucking Muhammad's dick

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>>139199007

The US have had this for years.

>yfw you lose the fusion reactor race, just like you lost the atom bomb race

>>139199007
Based.

Fuck America, the future belongs to the Germans

If you need any help, we could happily allow you to install some n*kes in mexico that you can point at the US

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>>139199490

Stay salty mexilard

>>139199455
> energy ... more powerful
that wording tells you how much of marketing vaporware that statement is

>>139199007
When it actually works and is economical then gloat.

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>>139199601
American swine, do not disrespect me.

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>>139199445
>by not sucking Muhammad's dick
well, America sucks Ivanka's dick then? Oh wait, I forgot, ... Yael's dick.

zero point energy is the future

>>139199455
>We took all the scientists you had working on a thing before we started our project that you intentionally stopped working on X thing.
>Suddenly when we took them all our project started doing really well.
>Therefore we beat you at a race you didn't even participate in.

What's next, America beat Nazi Germany in the space race?

>>139199007
>Germany closing in on fusion energy breakthrough
No they're not. Daily Reminder: "fusion" energy is literally just boiling fucking water to spin turbines.

>>139199490
All you would do is scrap them to help build more ghettos along the US boarder..

>>139199881
this does not into engrish gud and it hurts

China is better in magnetic fields than germany.
They will get there first.

>>139199490
What a stupid way to start WW3.

>>139199601
I love how nobody has said yet whether or not they're including Mexican nationals LIVING IN AMERICA in this total, because Mexicans in Mexico aren't that fat. And the average Mexican IN fucking Mexico sure as hell doesn't look anywhere near as fat as the average white American.

>>139200013
no shit, sherlock
and what do you think fussion, coal, gas, oil plants do?

>>139199007
can you fuse common materials into rarer ones, like 2 iron atoms into 1 gold atom?

>>139200148
They're all worthless piles of shit. Now you're getting it. You're literally still in the fucking steam age.

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>>139199455
>The US have had this for years.
>pulled out of all significant fusion research since the 1990s
>even all fusion energy researchers in the US acknowledge just that
>look envious to Europe where they say the real show is

Ok then, why don't you inform yourself?

>>139200199
what is not in the steam age?

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>German fusion is working

>>139199007
just wait till you have finished researching it.. just to be stolen by chinese, russian, muricans and kike cyber-commandos

>>139200296
Hilariously? Photovoltaics, which you morons won't stop shit-talking.

>>139200167
>can you fuse common materials into rarer ones, like 2 iron atoms into 1 gold atom?
That's what America wants,... no I mean Amero-israel. But despite 5 trillion dollar going into this research, it is nowhere near working yet.

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>>139199007
>Estonia
Looks like we win again, Kraut.
>CAPTCHA: comune halte

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>>139200407
> photovoltaics
I had some faith on this conversation going somewhere

>>139199007

How many times are you gonna make this thread per month?

>>139200483
why would they? artificial scarcity is better business
e.g. diamonds

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>>139200129
That's what happens when you put walls between countries, kiddo. The time for arguments has passed

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>>139199007
Good.
You will be able to pay back what you owe that much faster.

>>139199007
The last invention before you no longer exist as a German country.

>>139200548
>Everything humans do is geared towards self-destruction
>Humans are such oblivious self-annihilating demons that any good idea sounds like madness to them
Lol good riddance filthy apes.

I'm surprised Kenyans didn't invent first...

>implying the U.S. hasn't had this technology and better things for decades
What are black budget programs for 500

>>139199007
Looks demonic. Explains why they are flooding germany with shitskin third worlders. They are feeding their bodies to some demon mouth that they found in some cave in exchange for hell technology.

>>139200784
your lack of arguments and shit-tier trolling is boring af
get lost

>>139200874
I wouldn't be surprised if there are next age ion thrusters sitting around collecting dust.

>>139199007
The five eyes have can see everything you nasty Krauts are up to.

>>139200874
Your 'black budget programs' are mostly toy things for your military. You don't do any real research in it. Mostly these days it goes into large algorithms to analyze Facebook and whatsapp... not even joking.

>>139200167
Yes but the process costs more to the gold produced

>>139200830
Tspbp
>>139200311
All makes sense

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>>139200593
>How many times are you gonna make this thread per month?
Australia will not receive the fusion secrets.

>>139199007
In the article it says the US and many other countries are submitting experiments to run on the thing. I'm sure for a price.

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>>139199007
There are 5 American collaborating institutes.

"A three-laboratory American consortium (Princeton, Oak Ridge, and Los Alamos) became a partner in the project, paying US$7.5 million of the eventual total cost of €1.06 billion"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wendelstein_7-X

This thread is bait.

>>139200668
Texas could fuck your shit up on it's own. Just sit down.

>>139201142

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MARAUDER

>>139201521
>There are 5 American collaborating institutes.
And none of them actually gets the real data. You really think we pay over a billion euro shekels and then hand over the data just because you put in 0.007 billion euro shekels? No way.

>>139199007
>country full of brown people with energy we could use
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
thanks for the heads up, we'll be seeing you soon

>>139199007
>Germany closing in on fusion energy breakthrough

No they aren't.

They couldn't fuse two light nuclei if they had 6*10^36 kilograms of hydrogen all in one fucking place.

>>139200668
Ten feet higher

>>139200671
>FEIN gold

>>139199881
> German "humor"

Hans, stop shitposting and work on your lagging birthrates

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>>139199007
They can't.

Germans are the smartest people on Earth. Also, for close allies I understand Austria and France but why Estonia lol? And what can Canada do to become closer with Germany? Canada has many Germans pls gib teknology. Und ich spreche etwas Deutsch.

implying we won't share a power fusion reactor tec aka fusion bomb if they do succeed

>>139199200
>cold fusion
Fuck off retard

>>139201802
What are you talking about? Fusion isn't the problem, it'd making it stable and being able to generate more energy than you out in in to contain it.

>>139201712
Then i guess some industrial espionage will take place

>>139201712
Do you think the universities paid money for nothing? They paid to come up with experiments are run it on the device. Of course they get the data. This design isn't some big German secret. Probably won't work like the million other devices.

>>139201142
Thats what they want you to think

if you invente fusion tech.
and you do not give it to the us.
the us will invade you
the us will kill you
and that will be the end

that's the blunt truth you pathetic emasculated gummi shit.

>>139202177
>Then i guess some industrial espionage will take place
Americans can't read German or Arabic. They can't deceiver all our research notes and results. And Google translate isn't good enough to make sense of things.

>>139202215
>Probably won't work like the million other devices.
It already works for several seconds - and the containment is fucking based compared to Tokamaks. This is the real deal.

>>139199007

>almost does something relevant

HAHA AMERICANS BTFO

this is so sad. why do non-burgers only ever think about what they do in terms of burgers?

>>139202265
>Americans can't read German or Arabic
kek

>>139202265
What? They teach German in college here in America. Spanish, French and German are taught everywhere here. Hell I had 3 months of German in 7th grade.

no worries if push comes to shove then the americans and chinese will rape them again, take their technology and distribute it around the world

>>139199007
Inb4 it's nothing

>>139202133
>making it stable
Isn't that the biggest problem so far? Contain the plasma and a positive power balance?

>>139199007
>Estonia, Austria and France.
>all long time traditional enemies of the Teuton
>only tell them your super special secretz

>>139202265
>or Arabic
lol

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>>139201712
If you think research departments play honestly all the time and are somehow Good People TM you'll be in for a shock.

There will be a silver lining for that partnership - you're underestimating the other guy and you're own team too much.

Wow good job Hans, very impressive...so when mudslimes will use it in their New Country built on your carcass Hanscuck?

I hold out more hope for polywell fusion, but it will probably disappoint me like peachy printer.

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>>139199007

>How can Americans even compete?

We trashed the entire middle east for oil.

What do you think we'll do to you for cold fusion?

>>139199455
More energy than fission, within a truck?
>TRUCK OF PEACE INCOMING!!

>>139202504

sexy salty amerimexacana bodies

Wow good job Hans, very impressive...so when mudslimes will use it in their New Country built on your carcass ?

>>139199007
>Germany discovers fusion energy
>Accused of another shoa and gets KIKED again
>Greatest ally shares info with us

>>139200407
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>139199007
>Italy
>not one of your closest ally
FUCK YOU

>>139199007
Too bad mudshits are going to destroy civilization even if you make that.

German engineering going to waste once again.

>>139199007
To think, only ten years away!

>>139202654
The only shame here is that Germany spent billions on Pooland instead of using it for more high-tech research. Greatest waste of money in history, literally.

>>139199007
>>139199007
>>139199007
>>139199007
>calling one of your own states austria an 'ally'

its like if we discovered fusion in texas and decided to share with our 'ally' florida. you know you own austria, right?

>>139199007

>Official German policy is to not share this technology with anyone but its closest allies such as Estonia, Austria and France.

this is wrong though, you have to share it with us because our contractors originally built it for you before reunification

also you can't not share it since it's against EU science policy

>>139199007
>>Official German policy is to not share this technology with anyone but its closest allies such as Estonia, Austria and France.
>implying that your government is not a cia puppet installed via the secret acts of the marshall plan

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>>139202503
Google translate is shit, it always goes into porn when translating engineering stuff.

Germany made the right decision to go for Arabic as the working language for all its core research work to prevent espionage.

>>139199007
Prepare to be liberated motherfuckers

>>139202774
DO they? show me sources canacuck

>>139201613
Legit this.
Texas has more guns than all of Mexico.

... Not to mention, better guns.

>>139202414
>Hell I had 3 months of German in 7th grade.
You need 15 years of intense German language lessons to even understand half of complex German engineering work. There are over 250,000 German compound works used in engineering alone, which is more terms than exist in the whole English language library.

>>139202724
It's already destroyed. This invention will be their swan song before all the German girls are raped and have cappuccino babies and become just another 3rd world shithole.

>>139202721
Betrayed us 2 times. Still betrays us to this date.

Nothing good, except for cannelloni, ever came out of Italy.

>The German funding arrangement for the project was negotiated in 1994, establishing the Greifswald Branch Institute of the IPP in the north-eastern corner of the recently integrated East Germany. Its new building was completed in 2000. Construction of the stellarator was originally expected to reach completion in 2006. Assembly began in April 2005. Problems with the coils took about 3 years to fix.[4] The schedule slipped into late 2015.[4][11][12]

>A three-laboratory American consortium (Princeton, Oak Ridge, and Los Alamos) became a partner in the project, paying US$7.5 million of the eventual total cost of €1.06 billion.[13] In 2012, Princeton University and the Max Planck Society announced a new joint research center in plasma physics,[14] to include research on W7-X.

Just as a heads up: Los Alamos is effectively run by Honeywell and the Dept. of Energy. So any data this place creates comes back to us.

>>139202414
Do not learn German learn Chinese. Germany does not have a future.

>>139202920
>>139202414
better learn mudslimes language instead of soon-dead-german-dialect, more useful in future

>>139202248
what the fuck are you talking about
like they owe something
If someone tries to invade, they will get nuked, no matter who
Germany could build a huge atomic arsenal in under 6 months
The Eu itself has enough nukes which germany has control over
So stop talking shit you fucking idiot

>>139203113

Also,

>In July 2011, the President of the Max Planck Society, Peter Gruss, announced that the United States would contribute $7.5 million under the program "Innovative Approaches to Fusion" of the United States Department of Energy.[23]

The DoE also funds most western fusion projects due to their applications with nuclear weapons design. This should be pause for thought considering the one TRILLION nuke upgrade Obama greenlighted before he left office, which will make fuses much more reliable and bombs more accurate (thereby increasing their effective destructive potential).

>>139202473
>Isn't that the biggest problem so far? Contain the plasma and a positive power balance?

They are Nu-Germans... they can't into containment and positive balance is a trick of economic theft from France.

>>139203089
>treat us like their lazy little slave
>surprised when we betray them
It's like you want to be backstabbed

>>139203209
Lol at bending to the Chinese savages. Would never learn their filthy language

>>139199007
Ten seconds of thritium-deuterium fusion.
While impresive on it own, we need time infinite deuterium deuterium fusion, to economic viability. Don't get me wrong, we are geting there, but it is grinding work. Is far as i understand, now they will test heat transfer mecanisms which should allow longer recations.

>>139201142
>be America
>be best country on earth
>see Germany is attempting to be the best country on earth by building a fusion reactor
>lolk
>break out the big black budget cock
>demand they stop building fusion or their country and people are deep fried like burger
>American coal still 10/10, when it runs out america builds its own fusion reactor and saves the day

>>139202920
>be America
>kidnap german engineer and torture him in Guantanamo until he agrees to translate the documents

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>>139202879
Germany through the EU has invested over 100 billion Euros (over 119 billion dollars)

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/may/01/eu-poland-10-years-economic

Germany is the largest contributor of money in the EU and Pooland is the greatest leech and parasite in the EU. The great shame in all of this is despite all of this money Pooland is still an uncivilized shithole. Fuck, Germany should've used those tens of billions of euros to build spaceships and fusion reactors instead of making Pooland not a shithole anymore. Literally the biggest waste of money in history.

>>139203113
You're not getting shit you retard. Reread what you wrote. You're seriously crazy if you think you'll be getting all the data. Damn cucks barely paid 7 million out of a over 1 billion euros project and think they can get some research gibs.

>>139203674
Germans aren't traitors. In May 1945, 100,000s of Germans killed themselves, which they preferred instead of being occupied by foreign powers.

Nonsense. How could you get a net positive on energy out with fusion when it takes so much going in? Fission works because certain atoms want to split from being unbalanced, like dominos waiting to fall.

The closest we can get to harnessing energy from nuclear fusion would just be solar panels, which is still ass in comparison to fission.

>>139203743
Archived
https://archive.is/WkO3u

>>139203757
Idk man, it is Guantanamo. The place where they deadbolt your ankles to the cells to make sure you don't escape, and where the CIA employes all of its illegal torture methods

>>139203373
WW1:
We promised you French clay and you agreed to it to stay neutral. 10months later "muhhhh, Allies promised us half of Austria-Hungary, let's jump in and go get fucked up!"

WW2:
"Hi Germany, we are Italians, we are the proto-fascists, we will always have your bags". Come 1943, Allies set one toe on Italian soil. Italians: "Allies! Rescue us, bad Germans made us go full on fascists, we never did nuffin wrong ever!"

Migrant crisis:
Let's in 800,000 Africans. Come 2017, "oh bad Germany made us take in all these Africans since the 1990s! Look, now we get a shit ton of them and bad Austria is starting to turn them back from their borders, this is outrageous! Also, what do you mean with "registering" them?"

>>139203743

>You're seriously crazy if you think you'll be getting all the data.

BWXT and Honeywell provided most of the components inside W7-X. Ditto for NIF, Z-Machine, ITER and the coming DEMO. Fusion projects go back a long way and are dominated by French and American companies since Germany gave up on commercial nuclear power and does not have a nuclear powered navy.

>>139203761
>How could you get a net positive on energy out with fusion when it takes so much going in?
What's Q goes to infinity? You do understand that there can be "ignition" which means you heat up the plasma, then it sustains the plasma temperature through fusion and the only energy you need to put in is the cooling of your superconducting magnets?

Fusion energy's a sham. Takes more energy to fuse atoms than it takes to break them and all that energy involving the fusion is what goes into fusing it, so you need energy from somewhere else and you make no profit.

>>139200671
>Nambia genocide
Lul what madness is this?

>>139203306
Shitposting aside i'm not having any high hopes for this project either.

>>139204154
>Fusion energy's a sham.
You mean like Climate Change? And evolution? And the "round Earth theory"?

Grow up and stop getting your "science" from Sunday school.

>When America knew they were going to say they weren't going to share it before they said they weren't shared it

>>139203242
>they will get nuked,
>german nukes
lmao
>germany being allowed to build nukes
lmao

austrians really are a joke

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>>139199007

>It's too big and advanced to fail!

Germans never do learn.

>>139204007
>"Provided"

First of all, source? Second that's not how it works you tard. Even if Germany did buy those components from BWXT and Honeywell it has zero obligations to share any data with foreign institutions.

>Fusion projects go back a long way and are dominated by French and American companies since Germany gave up on commercial nuclear power and does not have a nuclear powered navy.

Jesus Christ just shut the fuck up if you don't know what you're talking about. US won't get shit, just like Pooland will get no gibs for ww2.

>>139203875

China is in recession and Trump is about to start a trade war with them by enaction section 232 tarriffs against their steel and semiconductor exports. Hence why Foxconn is trying to get the fuck out and build a facility in Wisconsin asap so their execs can turn heel and defect once the chink banks collapse and the purges begin.

And in the long term they're facing a massive food crisis due to inland desertification coupled with acidified coastal waters making desalination difficult.

>It was greed and a lack of nationalism that led westerners to betray their own country for wealth.

Nationalism is irrelevant, America may be pure evil but America has strong patent laws and can't hang all the bankers. This is very appealing for chinese CEOs who are suddenly finding themselves in hot water over a recession.

HAHAHAHAHA

THE GERMAN MASTER RACE WINS AGAIN

GET FUCKED SUBHUMAN AMERISHITS AND SLAVS

WE ARE STILL THE MASTER RACE

WE ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT MAKE ANY SUBSTANTIAL SCIENTIFIC PROGRESS.

WE ARE THE FUTURE!

GERMANY IS THE FUTURE!

>>139199007
It's a shame that you guys live under a cultural-Marxist establishment, can't even reproduce yourselves, are soon going to be majority Muslim and are ultimately doomed. You guys have so much potential.

However if you have no will to live then natural selection will take its course. Have modern Germans ever even tried to get freedom of speech and the right to bare arms? I bet the only firearms you cucks have ever seen are in the hands of your majority female police force. Those roasties are walking around with MP7's and shit while you cucks can barely own an air-pistol hahaha.

>>139199007
Why is this machine so fucking ugly? surely there is a way to organise all those seals and caps so it doesn't look like some kind of diseased donut.

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>>139203743
oh look single char from 3 years ago, you dont have idea how it works here - they are funding german's corporations like media in Poland so our native gets little to nothing if we compare shit

now get lost canacuck
also theguardian.com such quality source buhaha washbrained scumshit

>>139204239
The conspiracy theory here is from all the tinfoiler tier """physicists""" that say "fusion will work and give us free energy trust me guys"

Damn shame no one is trying for protium-protium fusion.

Because that would be a game changer.

Plot Twist: You Need Human blood to Keep the Fusion stable and Merkel got the Refugees just for that purpose

>>139204239
Yeah because fusion denial is so common in church.
Dumb fucking kraut

>>139204272
>being allowed to build nukes
kek
You understand that germany controls the eu, is going to implement the eu army, and has control over every nuke in europe ?
Also who is going to stop them to build nukes
If there was a scenario where the united states say that they are going to invade germany because of this, they will build nukes, and who will do anything ?
And why? For defending themselves ? kek
You are fucking stupid, and i wont even get on your level and harass swiss people, because i know that no one is switzerland is as stupid as you, so you are either one a nigger or two a jew
So shut the fuck up and stop debating, you have no idea what you talking about
>usa going to invade germany because of wendelstein
>germany "not allowed" to have nukes
Kek

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>>139204387
This post just Shows what happens when you get your News from a Cambodian Basket Weaving Site

>>139204105
You don't seem to get that it's just basic physics that you can't magically get more out than you put in. We can harness fission because uranium already exists. The intense gravity of a star billions of years ago already stored energy in fusing an element that has a higher neutron to proton ratio thats easily fissiable.

Producing fusion without the gravity of a star for the purpose of harnessing energy though? I don't see how it can be done without changing the laws of physics. It's like those old troll physics pics from a decade ago of using a motor to turn a generator to power itself.

>>139204324

>First of all, source?

Check the wikipedia links, the tech W7-X uses is reliant upon advances (especialy in magnetic containment, particle interactions, and photon agitation) made in NIF and Z-Machine. If you had any clue about chemistry you would have understood why this is so. America has been on the forefront of fusion tech because things used to study fusion tend to be things that are also useful in modelling nuclear explosions (which is how we get to improved fuse designs, which we are paying a lot of money to implement).

http://thebulletin.org/how-us-nuclear-force-modernization-undermining-strategic-stability-burst-height-compensating-super10578

>Jesus Christ just shut the fuck up if you don't know what you're talking about. US won't get shit, just like Pooland will get no gibs for ww2.

Again, the device itself uses technology built and imported from America. This is because Germany has never built a nuclear bomb, and has no desire to do so. It is also why the non-American parts of the machine are French, another nuclear armed country.

>>139203964
WW1
It was a defensive pact. Austria attacked so we have every right to tell you to fuck off
>uhhh it was le italien fault!!111 why didn't you join us after we broke every single pact with you wtf

WW2
Hitler promised to Duce that the war wouldn't start until 1945. Hitler like a retard attacked Poland anyway. Later USA invade and we start a civil war. How is that even betraying you dumb faggot?

Migrant Crisis
German ONGS let 800,000 african in every year and then they blame us. If we try to deport them they sanction us. WTF!?

GERMANS: THE ORIGINAL DINDUS. NOT ONE STEP ABOVE NIGGERS
KYS

>>139204542
>Yeah because fusion denial is so common in church.
It actually is. Have you even been to American Sunday school? "Making energy from fusion atoms" is heresy, because it isn't in the bible. If Jesus had taught that you can make pure energy from nuclear fusion, things would be different, but Jesus never said you could do such things... and he literally was God, so he must have known everything.

>>139204526
fuckin krauts
first you steal eugenics programs (fucked any chance of them continuing btw) and now you steal our aryan blood refineries is nothing sacred to you autistic forest nigs?

>>139204330
China is not in a recession and Trump is only doing an investigation atm, no confirmation of the Trade Act of 1974 going to be used by Robert Lighthizer. If Trump does start a trade war, this will hurt BOTH China and the US greatly. I would say Trump wouldn't fucking dare but considering the bipartisan support Trump is getting on his China stance it might happen, but on a minimal level.

No, Chinese bankers won't come running to America. No, China won't collapse anytime soon because of desertification (which China is combating very effectively) and acidified coastal waters making desalination difficult (wtf? China doesn't have a water crisis atm).

Just accept it, China will soon surpass the US as number 1 economy and Germany will soon surpass Japan as number 3 economy. Both inevitable if no war occurs.

>>139204562
D'you think that modern Germany would even fight back if (((USA))) invaded?

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>>139204701
Anglos Invent, Aryans Perfect, thats the way the White race runs sweetie

>>139204616
>You don't seem to get that it's just basic physics that you can't magically get more out than you put in.
What? Are you seriously suggesting our physics models are all wrong?

>>139204616
>Producing fusion without the gravity of a star for the purpose of harnessing energy though? I don't see how it can be done without changing the laws of physics.
What the hell are you even talking about? Do you even know what temperature and pressure are? Do you?

>>139199455
This.
Why would we release fusion while the world still operates on petrodollars?

>>139204697
What's there to deny about fusion? What I'm saying is fusing atoms is NOT going to be a good way to generate electricity

>>139200167
yes, however energy needed for this process is more expensive than a value of the gold you might obtain.

>>139204684
>Hitler promised to Duce that the war wouldn't start until 1945.
Any reason then that you started the African war ... not even informing Germans of your decision?

Based hydrogen

We'll just take that shit when it's ready.
Fuck Germany and the little Angela turd they rode in on.
We're the fucking USA, bitches.
We crushed the Obama Commie coup, we'll crush your ass.

ITER in Cadarache will be working before this stellarator generates a single MWh of usable electricity

>>139204760
EDIT : Oops, sorry I haven't been up to date on what has happened recently, been quite busy. Apparently Robert Lighthizer did go ahead with the Trade Act of 1974 under Section 301 and it does look like Trump is about to start a trade war (not confirmed though).

>>139204684
>Italian whining about Germany when it was Italy's fault for the Balkans and Africa
Classic

>>139204526
>Plot Twist: You Need Human blood to Keep the Fusion stable and Merkel got the Refugees just for that purpose

It's a money pit to fund refugees, isn't it merckel?

>>139204760

>China is not in a recession

Yes they are. GDP growth was supposed to be 10% yearly, this year it's barely 6% and is faltering due to deteriorating relations with America, rising Chinese private sector debt, and a larger economic stagnation as people stop having money to spend. This is why China's stock market took a huge shit in 2015 forcing Beijing to do something Jews find unacceptable - they imposed a ban on certain stock sales that effectively prevents people from cashing out leaving them with a toxic asset. This is especially concerning given the rise of their shadow banking system outside of the central government's control.

>and Trump is only doing an investigation atm, no confirmation of the Trade Act of 1974 going to be used by Robert Lighthizer.

Trump wants to get reelected and killing Chinese steel imports wins him Ohio and Pennsylvania. Killing semiconductor imports helps domestic US security while giving Chinese businessmen a really, really, really good reason to immigrate. This of course works towards Israel's benefit.

>No, Chinese bankers won't come running to America.

They will as their economy slips down to 5% growth and people start getting scared. This is when Xi's successor begins having show trials and they blame the bankers for everything. When faced with retribution for their crimes, the bankers will leave for America like bankers always do.

>>139204885
Do you think you get pressure and heat without requiring energy? I'm not arguing man made fusion is impossible, because it's doable. I'm arguing any energy you get out of it would be dwarfed by the energy you had to put into it to make it happen.

>>139204909
>What I'm saying is fusing atoms is NOT going to be a good way to generate electricity

American Christians say it is impossible to fuse atoms at all. You are saying it "is not a good way to generate electricity" which acknowledges fusion can happen and can create energy, which is heresy. Ask your local priest.

As far as I understood it the stellator was intended to demonstrate several technologies and theories but was generally accpeted that it would never be viable for actual power generation, have they changed their minds?
Back when I was doing research the stellarator was intended to study plasma and was largely regarded as a one off, partly because it is so expensive but also because it would be harder to develop anything looking like a comercial unit.

please hurry up and kill oil so we can start our civil war already

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>>139204835
hans my brother
we know where this is going just accept anglo superiority
you don't understand the hyper-semite anglican alliance we will betray them and with your autism you keep preventing this from happening
if only you would listen and let us out-jew the jew

>>139199007
OK pol

I met a man in a hospital that told me he had discovered the equation for the fusion generator. He also was put in the hospital because he called the police on a church near him because he heard people fucking children there and they would always have children going in and out of the building during the week.

Fusion power is probably already discovered, they just don't want it for the general public.

I looked up this guy, he had like 3 textbooks for college with his name on it. Older gentleman, I'm pretty smart and he explained it well, it seemed he knew what he was talking about. Told me to invest in a certain company, saying they would pop off in the next few years. Now that I have some money I'm thinking about it.

He seeming to be savy to some pizza gate shit before it was known. Also he wasn't a conspiracy theorist at all. I didn't know what to say to him, but I told him to stay strong and stuff like that.

I have infiltrated the german """"""""fusion reactor"""""" and have recorded and uploaded footage of how it operates.

please spread this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCtUl1tTh3Q&ytbChannel=Tin%20Yat%20Dragon

>>139205293
Dude the theory is pretty well understood, its the implementation thats the problem.

>>139205115
>Do you think you get pressure and heat without requiring energy?
I just told you, once you have ignition, you only need to hold the containment through your superconducting magnets. So the energy that goes in is the energy required for your liquid helium (soon to be replaced by liquid nitrogen) pumps and the cooling devices for the helium/nitrogen. That is that. The magnetic confinement is what puts the pressure in, the heat gets in first through microwave heating and is then sustained by the fusion reaction.

Why don't you just look things up before making idiotic claims?

>>139199007
all thanks to those imported engineers !

>>139204909
Why is it not a good way to generate electricity?

>>139204966
>>139205045
On 10 June 1940, the Kingdom of Italy aligned itself with Nazi Germany and declared war upon France and the United Kingdom.[15] British forces based in Egypt were ordered to undertake defensive measures, but to act as non-provocatively as possible.[16] However, on 11 June they began a series of raids against Italian positions in Libya
Brits started it
Dumd snownigger blaming italians for their own fault
Classic

>>139204808
If anything, giving Germany a chance to nuke Americans would be welcomed by virtually every EU country. Don't forget the rapefugees are here mainly due to US interventions in the METTT.

>>139204885
This,

Franz has got you there my fellow burger. While the sun's high gravity allows sustained fusion to take place in the suns core at much lower temperatures around (15.7million K). Machines like the one in OP's post can create temperatures greater than 100 million K.

>>139200671
This world is full of leeches

>>139199007
>Threatening the almighty petrodollar
Gee, it would be a shame if a US merchant vessel with a holocaust survivor suddenly got blown up by an allegedly German submarine and we got another Treaty of Versailles.

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>>139199007
>Share this tech with nobody but Estonia, Austria and France

Was sharing with the most security compromised nation in the world part of your master plan?

Our russian population guarantees a leak to the east and our ameriphilia guarantees a leak to the west. Tho why americans have not developed this tech themselves is a mystery.

>>139205392
Alright, I'll let some German dude who's nuclear knowledge is likely a Wikipedia article, lecture a man who's profession is producing nuclear power to the public.

I just have my doubts this is actually legitimate, because if it were that simple, it would have been done by now. Better have tried and failed.

>>139199007
>http://www.elektronikpraxis.vogel.de/kernfusionsexperiment-wendelstein-7-x-kommt-in-bedeutende-phase-a-637200
I don't speak german Hans. Can you write down an equation for the reaction? Or at least which isothopes they're gonna use in fusion?

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>>139204437
Wtf? In my source the first paragraph

>First and foremost, there's the cash: the country received £56bn in development funds between 2007 and 2013, money that was used to build hundreds of kilometres of highways and express roads as well as youth sports facilities, modern sewerage systems, kindergartens and pre-schools.

You call this investing only in German companies? Instead of thanking Germany (Or Germoney, how Poles see it) for your roads and infrastructure, you continuously make fun of it? This money is meant to help Germany develop you imbecile, pathetic parasite. You got nearly double what Germany got in aid by Marshall Plan yet you still seem like you'll never amount to anything.

>>139204644
I checked wiki page and even read several of the references of the "components" section, which per example has Ion Cyclotron Resonance Heating (ICRH), built by Euros. Give me specific source.

>America has been on the forefront of fusion tech

No, Germany has taken the lead for some time. Want to know why I called you stupid? Because you didn't even name the Soviets as important developers of fusion reactors (literally built the Tokamaks). You think that you're more advanced in fusion technology just because you've got the best fission technology? Man that is just too inane.

Nuclear fusion is NOT your domain anymore, and for a long time. Neither is particle physics (Europe again) nor quantum experimentation (China). The US has been lagging behind greatly recently, you still have retards thinking that coal is a viable source of energy and your govt puts all research money into the military which is quite pathetic.

>This is because Germany has never built a nuclear bomb, and has no desire to do so

Wtf man, you're connecting the wrong dots here. Germany has some of the best uranium-enrichment facilities in the world and is a leading power in nuclear technology, both fission and fusion. You should look up German nuclear power plant.

>>139205155
Fusion doesn't create energy it requires input and doesn't magically create extra output.

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>>139205729
> Tho why americans have not developed this tech themselves is a mystery.

if you still dont understand the ways of the merchant you have much to learn yet young jedi

>>139205159
>As far as I understood it the stellator was intended to demonstrate several technologies and theories but was generally accpeted that it would never be viable for actual power generation

It was the other way around. Before the Tokamak design was published by the Russians back in the 1960s, most fusion research was in stellarators. But leakage was way too strong and the initial Tokamaks had a lot better results.

Then in the 1990s, the Tokamaks hit their design roadblocks when scaling up, making stellarators interesting again... especially with a better understanding of plasma flows and the emergency of supercomputing, stellarators are now one of the three front running technologies for fusion power - alongside large scale Tokamaks (which are hitting major economic roadblocks) and compact Tokamaks using strong magnetic fields (which have hit various technological problems).

The beauty of stellarators is that they don't end up producing a massive internal electric field as Tokamaks, but a nice steady twisted plasma. As an analogy, you can think of stellarators as nice steady airships while Tokamaks are chemical rockets. Yes, we know chemical rockets can take us to orbit, but the question is, can they make us a spacefaring civilization given their costs and design limitations? All the while we haven't made airships go to orbit, but if we could, we had a smooth and nice and probably fucking cheap way to get to orbit and to ultimately get a shitton of stuff to space.

>>139199007
Sorry to say OP, but if this does pay off, the technology used will almost definitely be put into the ITER and your breakthrough would be used for the benefit of the world.
All the work you funded will be shared around with little to no compensation just like good old communism.

>>139199007
Is that a fact? Fusion energy will stop Cologne's and trucks of peace at Christmas time. Good for you.

>>139205115
The idea is you put a lot of energy in to start the reaction. Over time the sustained reaction produces a positive net energy output over time.

>>139205642
I know frogboy

isnt it tho?

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>>139205729
Why spend the money on something you won't use as long as there is oil, when you can just let Germany do it and take it from them.

>>139200407
You realize those are just black panels that collect heat to burn steam to turn a generator, right?

>>139199007
>how

They can invade and take everything you own.

Simple.

>>139200199
You're a dumb cunt. Today I'll remind you that steam trains had an energy conversion efficiency of up to 4% while modern turbines have it at 60-65%. The heat machines are a staple of modern society, just as the wheel is.

>>139205801
They are using protium-protium right now so they do not have to deal with fast beta-radiation initially. They will then upgrade to protium-deuterim so that there is some deuterium-deuterium fusion. Ultimately, they will try deuterium-tritium at Wendelstein X-7, but it is still a long way to go. At the end it is all a question of how radioactive your plating shall become initially - and their answer is "not very radioactive".

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BTW cold fusion technology has already long been invented , tested and put to use in certain parts of the world but you idiots here are so uninformed it only shows how effective the system has been deployed against you is.

>>139199007
> implying the CIA/NSA isn't immediately able to learn even the most secretive German technology
Shiggy

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>>139205785
>Alright, I'll let some German dude who's nuclear knowledge is likely a Wikipedia article, lecture a man who's profession is producing nuclear power to the public.
Why don't you just educate yourself before making ridiculous claims about "uhhhh, more energy has to always be put in than put out"?

https://www.ipp.mpg.de/15144/zuendbedingungen

>>139205077
>Yes they are. GDP growth was supposed to be 10% yearly

Outright false. Their goal was 6-7% for this year and they barely got the 6% figure, with many criticizing it and saying China is faking economic reports. China's economy is stabilizing, not crashing. China is making an important step towards moving to a service-based economic and better standards of living, which is currently slowing down economic growth.

>Trump wants to get reelected and killing Chinese steel imports wins him Ohio and Pennsylvania.

Read my other edit comment. I made a mistake and apologized for it. Anyway winning Ohio and Pennsylvania doesn't do shit, a trade war would devastate BOTH the US and China, this is why the US is so reluctant to strike China despite China's growing influence and pivoting position towards becoming the next superpower. Trump's trade war on China will be a minimal one because Trump's largest concern is the well-being of the economy (which would take a huge hit in a trade war). Plus the WTO says the US would be in the wrong if it started a trade war and there would be too many repercussions.

>They will as their economy slips down to 5% growth and people start getting scared

Asia, and more specifically China, has seen the largest creation of wealth in the world recently, and the main reason behind this is due to banks and other financial institutions. Banks are both making and creating so much money for themselves and China. They won't be leaving anytime soon. Today southeast Asia has the largest economic growth as a region in the world and Chinese banks still have a fuckton more money to make as the average China man becomes richer and spends more. In 2 years Asia will become richer than North America.

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/13/wealth-growth-in-asia-puts-it-on-track-as-worlds-richest-region-in-two-years-boston-consulting.html

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>>139200721

I hope the last kraut remote detonates all of them before he dies.

>>139205872
>will almost definitely be put into the ITER
You can't build an airplane and then say "let's put the wings in a spaceship and it will fly faster". Wendelstein X-7 is a very different tech than ITER. ITER is a dead end while stellarators and compact Tokamaks such as the SPARC concept are the future.

>>139205785
Are you implying that this is your profession?
If so all I have to say, judged by your posts is
>American education

>>139206060
The fuck are you talking about? Protium-protium is literally unfeasible on scales smaller then the Sun and D-D is slightly harder than D+3He, and THAT is about 100 times harder than D+T. Don't talk about things you don't have a single clue about.

>>139205962
I understand that's what they intend, but I don't believe it will work like that. At best we could make back a large portion of the energy put in, but we could never maintain even a 1:1 ratio. But hey, even if they could get to a 10:1 ratio, that would be a huge leap in general fusion technology for the purpose of fusion, but never power generation.

>>139206242
The germans are putting some good work into fusion but I am pretty sceptical about the outcomes, if and when fusion can generate power and be used comerically it wont be german corporations putting the plants together, it will be french and japanese companies with american money.

>>139199007
>estonia
Russia's getting it for free then.

>>139199007
YESSS GIVE US POVVER RUSKIES VVILL PAY

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>>139206418
>Russia's getting it for free then.


Golly Geeee

I wonder how how will end up when vatnik tries to build his own reactor.

>>139205155
Leave it to christians to deny reality. We all know fusion is a thing, that's how stars operate and our thermonuclear bombs even use fusion to boost the fission reaction. We know that deuterium + tritium = helium + neutron.

>>139204611
What on my post is untrue?

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>>139199007
Fusion is endless Pepe memes.

>>139206380
What have I said that was wrong? Basic laws of physics that even a 3rd grader understands?

>>139206400
Do you have a clue about the physics behind the reaction? Fusing light nuclei yields net positive energy. With proper containment for a decent time, we can get mcuh more energy than we put in. Your NIF already managed to get out more energy from the target than they pumped in, and ITER is going to put out 10 times more energy than needed for ignition.

>>139201712
Germany is occupied by USA you retard. You literally creating United States of brown niggers.

>>139199007
Implying germany can't be guilted into giving this to everyone.

>>139206060
>deuterium-tritium
>"not very radioactive"
WTF? I don't know if i remember it correctly, but doesn't T+D+E1 = He + n +E2? How are they going to stop emission of accelerated neutrons? Even if we assume that they will create some kind of a "box" made of "a special material", radiation will lead to deformation of this "box" and its unavoidable destruction within time. Plz Hans redpill me on this one.

>>139205115

>Hasn't heard of Q Ratios

Positive net energy generation is possible and the ITER reactor at CEA Cadarache in Provence is designed to produce enough energy to sustain the reaction, plus 40% extra which could, in theory, be sold to the grid.

If successful the prototype could be scaled to generate up to twenty times as much.

As if there isn't drastically more advanced technology already.

All this means is that Germany believes the US is too weak or preoccupied to suppress this, as has been routinely done for over 50 fucking years.

>>139206380
dont show americans that you are too smart they will send the CIA to kidnap you and force you to work on their dragon dildo projectz


and just like the mods on this site


youll be doing it for free

>>139206707
NIF always makes me laugh, not only is it operating at less than 10% of what they projected when they designed it, but for all the imense capacitor banks and the scale of the set up, the energy released by the lasers at full power is equal to that contained in a bag of crisps.

>>139206759
The neutorns are desirable for breeding more tritium.

>>139199007
>closest allies such as Estonia, Austria and France
>Estonia

dafuq, dont trust the russians

>>139206837
Don't hate on the crisps, the energy in food is absolutely ridiculous, on scales of kinetic energy of artillery shells.

I think it's quite problematic to have a bunch of white males solve the energy crisis. I personally want no part of the solution unless it comes from a LGBTBBQ POC Muslim refugee.

>>139207086
I dont doubt the energy density, just makes me chuckle.

>>139206774
Alright, let's assume you can make this net positive somehow. With the methods used to produce this, how is the power converted efficiently for the grid?
In fission, it's simply heating water through a core to make steam, but when we're talking about maintaining temperatures and pressures this high, this seems to be a very fragile reaction that would be heavily insulated. Where and how do convert this heat to electrical power?

I have no idea how a fusion reaction core is layer out and designed, so I'm actually curious.

>>139199007

Does this mean that Germany is going to that USA Nazi back to Germany? Project Deport Paperclip?

>>139207150
Laid*

>>139202810
>our contractors originally built it for you before reunification

Greifswald is in East Germany

>>139207150
You put moderating materials and absorbers in the reactor walls, slowwing and stopping the neutrons, this generates heat which can be used to boil a film of water around the reactor, generating steam etc.
The idea is that the wall would also incorporate some kind of lead litium boron mix that would absorb the neutrons and the lithium would produce more tritium for the reaction, this would also generate usable heat.

>>139206795
>Germany believes the US is too weak or preoccupied to suppress this

The US voted Trump in the White House and has been pre-occupied by Trump's tweets for years now. This is literally the state of America today - Kim Kardashian and Trump are what is called "high tech" in America.

Idiocracy has arrived.

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>>139199007
I know some people working on the project actually. Its an international effort, and get this.

>Started by Reagan
>and Gorbachev
> America, South Korea, China, Russia, Germany, France, and India are involved
>Germany relevant as grunt work
>China has no delay on access to each breakthrough
>US already preparing for it to power carriers
>Germany with its high-cost high-cuck prices to due to sand nigger welfare will have to compete with China, US, South Korea, India and Russia.

Germany LOST the bid on the computers to the US, LOST the bid on the steel to literal poos, and will lose the greater market.

>>139206759
>How are they going to stop emission of accelerated neutrons?
Heavy water shield ... which is also used to produce electricity through direct steam or heat exchange tech.

Also, radiation exposure is also not really a problem unless your plating gets brittle from it. Using Tungsten is a solution as evidenced by the Joint European Torus which is currently initiated with a converted Tungsten plating.

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>>139206505
They already have
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokamak

>>139200261
>Anyone losing to Europe ever
Topkek Germany. Europe is going down. Europe will never win again.

>>139207340

you're thinking too complex, you have to think more stupid where small is powered by the result which in turn generates enough energy to create the result. Ultrasounds. Whole container can be an ultrasound speaker focused on the spot in the center which would be instantly vaporized.

>>139206622
You already got BTFO by the German poster.

>>139199007
> estonia
thank g-d for the kraut

>>139206382
>Protium-protium is literally unfeasible on scales smaller then the Sun and D-D is slightly harder than D+3He
You are talking ignition temps.

There is fusion, although minimal, going on in protium-protium plasmas even at low temps such as below 1 keV plasmas.

>>139207557
Are you having a stroke?

>>139206872
but you cannot just stack these neutrons, they will get absorbed as fast as they will reach first atom that will be able to absorb them. At the begining because of the high deuterium content most of these neutrons will go into D+n+E=T, but in some point they will start to react with the "box" causing it degeneration. How will you control them? I am 100% sure that it is not possible with current technology and i even doubt it will ever be.

>>139207340
Britbong hit the nail on the head. How do you know all this anon?

Why there are alot of engeneering books written by jews? Just like Oppenheim and zemansky

>>139207420
You are talking ITER, not the X-7. Don't talk, if you don't know stuff. The X-7 is funded 99.5% by Germany.

>>139204562
>has control over every nuke in europe
Which is literally only French nukes lol, fucking UK could obliterate all of Europe. Alone.
>Also who is going to stop them to build nukes
USA, obviously. Why would they want Germany to have nukes.
>If there was a scenario where the united states say that they are going to invade germany because of this
US? Invade Germany? There are American millitary bases in Germany, lots of them. Germany has been ivaded by the US since 1945.

>>139207340
That would be a pretty insane neutron flux to be generating usable heat primarily off of that, wouldn't it?

>>139207646
Sounds familiar,

"You never make it across the ocean
"You'll never fly
"You'll never make it to the moon"

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>>139200147
>Mexican IN fucking Mexico sure as hell doesn't look anywhere near as fat as the average white American.

Retarded Indio. Mexicans are fuck fats just like Americans. Go back, America has enough farm equipment.

http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/health/mexico-surpasses-u-s-world-fattest-nation-report-article-1.1393801

>>139200167
Well, fusing heavy metals is how Stars destroy themselves.

There are methods of "smashing" elements together to create a different element though. So you could create gold doing that. That is how all the synthetic metals on the periodic table are made.

Both methods are prohibitively expensive though.

>>139207574
Kek, you have a strange definition of btfo friendo. But your counter "argument" seems to prove my point.

>>139205863
>if you still dont understand the ways of the merchant you have much to learn yet young jedi

Nice psyop against my trip, you flag proxying Soros employee.

>>139207646
As I said in an earlier post the neutrons are used for the actual power generation as they are moderated and captured in the surrounding wall.
When you mention damage to the wall that is one of the key issues at the moment as it is hard to replenish the walls without shutting it off and then you have to access it remotely.
The point of ITER is that it will be so much larger as to allow for more test samples to be fielded to assist in the material research.

>>139207682
It was a large part of my degree and my masters, kind of involved in my work aswell tho not directly.

>>139207761
There would be quite a large flux but also the energy release from the lithium neutron reaction is massive.

>>139200199
How else do you efficiently convert heat energy into electric energy? Steam isn't outdated at all.

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>>139207646
this is why they should just make fusion-fission hybrids. use all the neutrons that get generated to further deplete nuclear waste. two birds with one stone.

>>139207761
>>139207340
Like, how large in area are these reaction cores to produce an exterior flux capable of boiling water?

>>139199007

zero point energy is where its at. Fusion is just a dead branch.

>>139207482
but it still doesn't solve the main problem. Shield is not eternal, even in theory it will work only as long as there will be D in that shield. In some point of the process you will have to stop the reaction and replace He that was produced with new D and recover the shield. And what is the biggest problem is that you cannot just stop this fusion since it fuels itself.
People have already used to think they can control nuclear power once in the past. And 5 microseconds later there was no uranium fuel left from their several months' supplies.

>>139208023
i didn't see this one when was writing>>139208178.
Thanks for your answer Mathew.

>>139208144
The neutron flux itself isnt boiling the water, there will be some heating but most comes from the neutron interaction with the wall of the reactor, there is no set design as yet, you could have a liquid salt wall which flows and is heated taking the new tritium and heat from the reactor to a heat exchanger to heat water.
Alternatively there could be heat exchangers built into the walls that take the heat directly, likey to a heat exchanger again but potentially straight to a steam dryer.
As I said there is no set design yet for the power generation as there is no set composition for the walls.
Tho I would like to imagine if britain ever built a comercial fusion reactor we would probably go out of our way to be different like with the gas cooled reactors.

>>139208462
We'll yes, I meant off the boron reaction.
A similar reaction is used in our NIS detectors to determine reactor power, but I never would have thought that to be proficient as a heat source.

>>139204217
>Shitposting aside i'm not having any high hopes for this project either.

I'm not shitposting... oh god, I wasn't...

I wish I was though.

>>139208462
>>139208865
That is, unless it produces a very, very large flux in comparison to a fission reactor. How do they compare?

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>>139199007
>Official German policy is to not share this technology with anyone but its closest allies such as Estonia, Austria and France.

lol. pic related. investing billions in new technology.
happily sell working prototype to china for peanuts.

Please don't fall for this migrant Polack troll who wants to get us invaded. The Wendelstein-7X is nothing but a glorified magnetic bottle that hasn't even produced a positive energy balance. It costs way more to turn it on than you will ever generate from it.

>>139205817
Oh so stars are fake aswell

>>139209504
>wants to get us invaded.
How can you be invaded when ZOG already has a base in Rammstein and listens in on Merkel's cell phone (handie)?

torus-modeled fusion generators cannot work. it's a research grant scam. more likely fusion is impossible in it's entirety.

hit me up when you have something instead of declaring the same thing that's been declared for thirty years straight as though it makes you special.

>>139200261
but there's nothing. there never will be anything. fusion is a scam.

>>139209728
>torus-modeled fusion generators cannot work

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_European_Torus

>>139209845
and guess what? it doesn't work because it can't work. it's a research grant scam.

>>139209728
TOKAMAK is a shit tier design

reactors that take advantage of plasma instability rather than forcing it with magnetic fields were always going to win out

>>139209897
...It does work though.

>>139199007
Sure, there's absolutely a new type of energy in Germany, and it's called Russian gas.

>>139209897
It did work. It produced more power than it took to run. The only problems we now face with fusion power is turning that energy into electricity and having them run for longer.

>>139209942
no, nothing is going to win out. there is no way to contain an energy-positive fusion reaction.

your best bet for fusion is if they find a way to harvest energy from hydrogen bomb detonations that overall is energy positive. which they have not and doesn't look good.

>>139209971
not energy positive.

>>139210022
>It produced more power than it took to run.
so do hydrogen bombs.

> The only problems we now face with fusion power is turning that energy into electricity
that means it didn't work. not energy positive. semantical argument.

>>139199007
Can you share with us too? :(

>>139199007
how many burgers will one cost?

>>139210095
Produces more energy than it takes to make the reaction happen is the literal definition of energy positive m80.

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>>139199601
DELET THIS

>>139199007
Well, I guess when your country becomes thoroughly Muslim we can expect this to be weaponized against us.

>Germany will have more power to power more cucksheds

Amazing

>>139210211
not at all within the context of energy production. if you cannot harness the energy, it's not energy positive.

by your definition, america already won the fusion race half a century ago with H-bombs. they don't declare H-bombs as being energy positive fusion generators because there is no way to harness more energy than they put into it. the same is true for JET. it is not energy positive, because they cannot harness the energy it produces. That is why the argument is semantical.

>>139199490
How can the future belong to them when they don't reproduce?

Anyways having you people for a neighbor is just as devestating fort us as having nukes go off in our country.

>>139200147
Their women are almost always fat. One kid and they blimp out, and of course they always have more than one kid.

>>139210389
>not at all within the context of energy production. if you cannot harness the energy, it's not energy positive.

Well then why not keep an eye on ITER. That's the upscaled version that's being built as basically a prototype powerplant in order to work out how to go about turning the energy into electricity. Another bong in this thread has outlined roughly how we're to go about that.

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>>139199861
Why should we respect you?

>>139210389
JET isn't a generator, it is a reactor. You don't seem to get that...

These reactors produce energy and that energy can later be used to generate electricity but they're not gonna build the electrical infrastructure into the design before they even get the torus' design settled. It is an experimental reactor not a power station.

>>139202265
>implying that any research is being done by Arabic speakers

You are so cucked it almost causes me physical pain.

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>>139200147
Fuck off, spics and niggers in America are the primary driver of America's obesity epidemic - they're the ones drive the average up.

>>139210546
because it won't work. it's being built on false promises to put money into the pockets of scientists and contractors. this is nothing new in science.

>>139210669
>It is an experimental reactor not a power station.
that's what I'm telling you retards who are telling me that it's energy positive. "energy positive" doesn't apply to something that you cannot harness the energy from.

>before they even get the torus' design settled.
they won't. it isn't possible.

but the real question is; can a bunch of muslims sustain it?

>>139210619
OY VEY, THE ANTI MEXICAN SENTIMENT IN THIS THREAD IS GETTING OUT OF CONTROL, GO TO SLEEP ANON , ARENT WE ALL SLEEPY

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Germans don't know that without the US, their military is worthless.

Germans don't know that without the US, their economy is worthless.

Germans don't know that without the US, their allies will leave them in order to make papa freedom happy.

Now go ahead and BLOW nuclear fusion OUT YOUR ASS!!!

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>>139211016
Keep yapping, dog.

>>139206060
>>Protium
you men tritium?

>>139199007
Don't get too full of yourself, it wouldn't be the first time America toppled a muslim nation for energy.

>>139199007
We'll just copy it off of your servers

>>139211149
>shy
>going into politics
typical leftist misuse of words

>>139211486
good luck getting past linux security

>>139207616
Well, quantum mechanics allow such things at any temperatures, but at miniscule rates, not nearly enough to return more energy than was put in. That's the thing; p-p reactions are not self-sustaining in conditions we can reach right now. So the device in OP isn't an energy-producing fusion reactor, it's lab equipment.

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>>139199490
It certainly doesn't belong to beaners

>>139208049
B-but radiation is ebil, anon! It's invisible and super deadly, and you should replace these horrible nukes-in-waiting with safe and ecological photovoltaics!

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>>139211544
the point harnessing energy that is all around us is simply tapping into the science of controlling it.


and this world is overflowing with energy ready to be sucked out dry

>>139211457
Oooooohhhhhhhhhh holy shieettttt the germs were fucken destroyed!!!!!!!!

>>139207646
It's not nearly as simple. The restrictions on what a neutron can and cannot interact with are myriad and complex; the faster it goes, the lower the chance it will hit a nucleus. Most of the times it will just ricoshet of the nucleus without any gamma radiation/nuclear reactions and just heat up the material. In fact, even in reactors the average travel length of a neutron is measured in 10ths of cm.

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>>139199007
Estonia the next all-white superpower with fusion energy?

>>139209784
cold fusion is a scam. normal fusion is a real phenomenon, the sun relies on it retard.

>>139200671
Like anyone would actually pay that shit back.

>>139199007
Germans always lie, such as with those cars and during WWII so I don't believe you.

But GJ if I'm wrong. It would be more realistic for a western Euro country to build this then the retarded yanks.

>>139199007
>Für die Experimente haben sich etwa 100
>Forscher aus dem Ausland – unter anderem >den USA, Spanien, Ungarn, Großbritannien
>oder Japan - angemeldet. Sie hatten zuvor
>Experimentiervorschläge eingereicht, die von
>einer international besetzten Kommission
>bewertet worden sind. Die Experimente sollen
>unter anderem Fragen zur Stabilität des >Plasmas, zur Heizung und zum Einschluss des
>Plasmas in den Magnetring beantworten.

So everyone from G7 + EU is on board ...
Weak b8 m8

>>139199007
Nuke the Germans until they learn that sharing is good. Wait until the Chinese inevitably copy it. Then nuke the Germans again. It worked with the Japs

>>139212082
Germany would, because they're ubercucks.

just shined my 1 mw laser pointer at a helicopter passing over my seclusion

do you think ((((they'll)))) come for me?

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>>139199007
>Estonia, Austria and France
Oh come on, you nigger.
We were on your side in both the first and the second world wars.

>>139199490
Thanks Alfredo, you'll be saved soon.

>>139214849
>yo0u will be saved

>meanwhile he cant even save himself


silly jerry


this world belongs to alpha males

all yours died during WW2

lmfao