HOW DID CHINESE GET SO COMPLICATED

>create a very advanced language that forces you to memorize a lot
>generation after generation
>now the asians are world renowned for their High IQ and ability to memorize

pretty smart of them desu

>>139147656

Like that Avril Lavigne song?

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>>139147656
Նեղ աշկները ճեն իմանում ինձեվի լավ աիբուբեն ստեղձեն։ հաիկական աիբուբենը ամենիծ լավոտա։ ճինաստանծիկ հոկեկան հիվանդ ազգեն վոր շուն են ուտում

>>139147965
I think the arrow of causation points the other way.

>>139147656
Its literally not even complicated. The grammar is a piece of cake. Easier than Latin languages. As for the characters, try writing something over like 20 times and then seeing tht written somewhere 10 times a day. Try forgetting tht. protip: you cant.

>>139147656
The written form isn't the worst of it, there's also that it's a tonal language.
https://youtu.be/f66bH1YPGaU

>>139148671
tht only makes it hard for foreigners to learn but babies grow up listening to the sounds so they have no trouble making them. Its pretty natural. Also ppl who speak tonic languages have a higher chance of having perfect pitch

They had 28 different dialects, some with 17 different words for the same god damn concept
It was condensed into a very strict system and it's pretty damn good considering how many different dialects it was drafted from

The characters are not so bad, most of them just consist of 2 or 3 smaller characters copy-pasted together. I learned about 100 of them before I got bored and gave up

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>>139148397

>>139147965
>chinks are smart
>every other thread here is of dumbass chinks falling to their deaths in elevator shafts after they purposely kick the doors open

it's a relatively easy language with caveman tier grammar

>>139147656
Wow politics and world events.

>>139147656
you good is literally what it said...

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>>139147656
nigger is even harder

>>139147656
chinese is not actually that complicated, each stroke has a meaning, once you understand the basics of how characters are given meaning, understanding shit is gonna be a piece of cake

Chinese sounds disgusting
I got used to Japanese because anime but Chinese just sounds like vomit

>>139149621
Cultural Revolution is one hell of a drug, my dude.

>>139150795

Each stroke does not have a meaning, that's completely false.

>>139148397
>>139148397
I'll translate this because Jewgle translate shits the bed

>Narrow-eyed people don't know how to make a good alphabet. Everything is fine with the Armenian alphabet. Chinese are a spiritually-sick race because they eat dogs.

>>139147965
>Transition from cave pictures to picture based language.
>Never reform.
>Keep adding shit, bloating character set.
>Invent printing press.
>Can't use printing press because having 3000+ characters is not economically feasible.
>Tech stagnates.
>Foreign powers overtake you eventually.
>Still held back by unreformed piece of shit language today.

>hello there
18 strokes
>ni hao
11 strokes

>>139152086
>you cumming
1 stroke

안녕 /pol/

Is it possible to have bad handwriting and still make something legible with chinese characters? Like with english someone can read chicken scratch / cursive by filling in illegible word fragments in their head

>>139147965
The flip side of this is that it lowers skilled labor immigration to China

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>>139152880
Yeah. Reading Chinese symbols has more to do with recognizing strokes than seeing the symbol as a whole.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stroke_order

There are symbols that look nearly indistinguishable when seen as a whole, but are obviously different when you're familiar with how the strokes build up the character.

>>139153394
How do you distinguish between those symbols if they're typed with a computer instead of written?

>>139148397
Bozuh

>>139147656
>HOW DID CHINESE GET SO COMPLICATED
It's really easy, they encoded words instead of sounds.
They are literally retarded.

I am going to try learning Russian this year.
It seems pretty easy so far once past the Cyrillic. The grammar order is similar to English. Hard part sense to be verb conjugation I think because you can have like dozens of different forms. Plus I gotta relearn all general language grammar because I forgot a lot of it

>>139155139
It's possible to get a passive knowledge of Russian fairly quickly. Active is a different story because of the inflections. Verbal aspect isn't difficult, but it just seems weird to a native English speaker if you've never studied a Slavic language. You need to know two verbal roots.

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>>139153977
入 人

There are usually clues in the typeface that let you know what the strokes are, that combined with context + getting used to the way they're simplified helps as well. There's a certain unspoken style that's adhered to that allows them to intuitively distinguish between not only the shape of the symbols, but also sublties in meaning. Often, not recognizing these subtitles betray a non-native writer almost immediately, since you may be "technically" writing a character correctly, but natives of the language get weirded out by non-native
writing intuition.

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>>139148397
m-mellon?

>>139155916
i should have been chinese, i hate fucking dogs.

>>139155139
Read this book
https://fluent-forever.com/getting-started/

Thank me later.

>>139155969
If that's the Indian embassy then this is a pretty heartwarming video.

A complete and utter disdain for creativity. What else do you expect from a culture that values sucking the Teacher's dick and honoring one's ancestors 24/7 and where being a good student = can copy/repeat word-for-word. Also those who had funny ideas (like, say, how to reform the country) quickly got removed from the gene pool as well.

Chinese writing is literally hieroglyphics, but still in use today.

>>139147656

Chinese characters are not really more difficult than English spelling.

>>139147965
>chinks have to study their runes all day
>all shortsighted
>innovation and more important jobs can't get any attention

very smart indeed

>>139156116
>>139155765
Ok thanks guys

>>139147656
not even that hard

>>139151035
It might be because I'm so used to hearing Chinese IRL where I live but it sounds fine to me. Sometimes they sound like loud retards but I think that's more of peasant thing.

Japanese sounds way better though.

>>139156019
>i hate fucking dogs
No one is forcing you to put your penis in 'em, just use your hand like normal people.

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>>139156019
Than don't fuck them?

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>>139147656

>>139147656
rener nyuzi

>>139156610
kek

>>139155831
I liked it anon

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>>139147965
Brevity is the soul of wit and rote memorization is the lowest form of understanding.

>>139156141
Sometimes, I wish I could be like that guy with the hammer. Just bludgeon the shit out of people with blatant disrespect for anyone around them.

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>>139156328
>shortsighted

chyna hayt bamp

>>139147656
For those who want to learn Gook Runes, a good way to do it is using this book:
https://nirc.nanzan-u.ac.jp/en/files/2012/12/RK-1-6th-edition-sample.pdf

This combined with a spaced repetition system like Anki:
https://apps.ankiweb.net/

You should be able to have a basic meaning based understanding in 100 days.(Going at a rate of ~20 kanji a day) You'll also gain an intuitive understanding of how your own memory works as well, kinda bizarre.

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>be gook
>be better at being white people than whites

>>139151035
This. Chinese is the ugliest language to my knowledge.

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>>139156610
Google maps sentences and words when translating between languages as a point on a vector field, attempting to translate it to pure logic before putting it back through another filter. It obviously doesn't work so well with not only two languages so different but also when repeating the same moon rune repeatedly.

>we're forcefeeding them english so they can think logically like us

>>139152057
That's why Japan is so much better. They had the same language as China but instead stuck to a simplified alphabet of like 24-25 letters.

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>>139147965
Chinese sure as shit isn't advanced. It's composed of very simple phonemes and very simple grammar compared to some other languages. Tones can cause problems but mostly only because it's hard for people not used to using tones when speaking. The only "advanced" part of it is the writing system (and languages and writing systems are two different things) and it's complicated because it's a holdover from before alphabets were a thing. It's basically the modern equivalent of cavemen drawing pictures on walls and it's kept because of tradition.

Logographic writing systems are shit. Abjads are shit.

>>139156328

That's literally the gist fo Confusius philosophy. Keeping them busy learning runes and drawing out in different ways in calliogrpahy, poetry and all sorts of elaborate customs so they would stop killing each other. Not that it works that well. It is almost entirely responsible for the lag in scientific development for thousands of years in China, Korea and Japan.

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>>139151035
>I got used to Japanese because anime
>when you realize japan is already enslaved and they're only committing cultural warfare at this point

>>139157342

>They had the same language as China but instead stuck to a simplified alphabet of like 24-25 letters.

Literally nothing in this sentence is correct.

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>>139156610
>Crocodile rape, rape and rape
>1. The act of sarcasm, rape, rape, rape, rape, rape, rape and rape
>1. The act was carrier out in a rape.

>>139156267
>Mom tied him up to the door outside while she is working at the massage parlor for tricks.

That's how I imagine this scene.

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>>139155139
Why? Better learn japanese instead.

Chinese is literal babby mode

>>139157342
Japanese and Chinese are completely different. They're not even in the same language family. Japanese only uses kanji because they and China were neighbors for millennia. Same with Korean. All three are very different.

And Japanese uses two syllabic alphabets on top of the kanji.

Really though the fact that both languages can be understood when spoken shows that the kanji isn't necessary for understanding and the only reason it's kept is tradition.

>>139155916
>>139156015
How fucking weak are Chinese? Can't kill a dog in one hit with a shovel? Can't kill a small child with about thirty foot stomps? Is this the price they pay for having high IQ?

>>139147656
>Guys lets invent a writing system, so we can leave messages without having to say them out loud.
>Good idea. How about this symbol means "tree" because it looks like a little tree and this symbol means "fire" because it looks like a fire and this one means "person". Hey this is pretty easy.
>What if we want to say "woods"
>Let's just draw the "tree" symbol twice, really close together. And then for "forest" we can just draw it three times.
>What about verbs like "rest"?
>I don't want to create any more symbols today, how about we just draw "person" and "tree" really close?
>Yeah, we can invent new symbols tomorrow.
>Wait a few years
>Okay we did it. We created a symbol for every single word.
>But we only created like 100 symbols and the other 10,000 are just squishing different combinations together! How will anyone ever learn this?
>Eh fuck em. They'll just spend their primary school years learning the thousand or so words they will see in every day life and forget the rest.

>>139157875
They are the same. They've always been backwards barbarians.

>>139147656
the language itself is pretty simple.
the writing systems is also not that complicated when you know that every hieroglyph consists of mere hundreds of elements (three elements for "you" (thee=ni) and two elements for "good" (hao) consisting of pentagram for a woman and a schematic toddler for a child.

>>139158072
It's always so difficult to guess who the winner is going to be.

>>139157875
I mean idk I don't really care but to say look how the lad got back up and yet. Human barbarism. Like oh.

>>139147656
idk how they do it; I've tried writing Cyrillic letters and that's hard enough

>>139157194
You should know.

>>139158446
Did you have a stroke or do you simple have a vagina anon?

>>139156076
sacre-blyat, what are they doing?

>>139147965
In other words:

>make things unnecessarily complex

>>139158072
>standing under the truck
>pushing truck around on crane instead of pulling and using ropes

They truly are the highest IQ race. I can understand why they are going to take over the world.

I used to work in a school helping to train Chinese pilots in America. They come here with money from wealthy families (or I suspect several are spies from the government) to train. They cut every corner and many have had to be deported for fraud. I have heard of students tying down airplanes on the ground then leaving them running so they can run up the hour meter and log the time without actually flying anywhere. Others return to china and falsify their documentations. This is why I strongly suggest to people that if you are going to fly on an airline, always fly American or Europeans or Asian ones like Cathay that have mainly white pilots.

>>139158317
They were on par to Europe in the medieval ages and some time prior to that. However many aspects of their society were still stunted.

>>139157904

>Really though the fact that both languages can be understood when spoken shows that the kanji isn't necessary for understanding and the only reason it's kept is tradition.

Japanese actually has a big problem with homophones due to their method of generating new words for hundreds of years being to adopt an approximation of the Chinese word without respect for dialect or tones.

Some words are generally only used in writing because they'd be too ambiguous in speech.

>>139158941
English is really terse as a language.

>>139158755
It's not as if English isn't unnecessarily complex. We have lots of written words that are pronounced identically, but in written form are given meaning and are distinguished by the symbols we use. "Your" vs "you're" as an example.

There's a disturbing research study out of Boston University, on STD rates among Asian Americans. Professor Hyeouk Chris Hahm led the study, after noticing high STD rates among Asian Americans while working for ten years as a psychiatric social worker.

What she found was troubling:
Moreover, the power dynamic between genders became immediately clear. Asian American women were four times more likely to have a STD than their male counterparts. “This was shocking,” said Hahm, “It was so much higher than the males.”
Accounting for the gender disparity, Hahm suggested that again, culture may be playing a critical role. “Condom use is hard in a culture where women are raised to be accommodating and polite.” She stated, “Asian and Pacific Islander women also have broader interracial dating patterns than Asian American men. This might explain why these women are exposed to higher rates of STDs.”

>Over the course the study, Hahm unmasked some myths common about Asian Americans. She said, “There’s a perception that Asian Americans in particular aren’t practicing sexually risky behaviors. But we found that Asian American young women are at risk of high STDs. For instance, Asian American women had a higher prevalence of STDs than White women in both 1995 (10.4% vs. 7.7) and 2001 (13.5% vs. 8.3%). The incidence of STDs (not diagnosed with STDs in 1995, but developed STIs in 2001) among Asian American women was also higher than that of White women." Moreover, the power dynamic between genders became immediately clear. Asian American women were four times more likely to have a STD than their male counterparts. “This was shocking,” said Hahm, “It was so much higher than the males.” Accounting for the gender disparity, Hahm suggested that...“Asian and Pacific Islander women also have broader interracial dating patterns than Asian American men. This might explain why these women are exposed to higher rates of STDs.”

>>139147656
>two 1 syllable words made out of 4 symbols
>some how more complicated than 2 words made out of 10 symbols

>>139159212
I think these findings definitely go against some prior conceptions about Asian Americans and sexually transmitted diseases. The 4:1 ratio of STDs among Asian American women to men is astounding. To see what this means, I looked up some global data of STD rates around the world, broken down by gender. In East Asia, and on every other continent, women have slightly higher STD rates than men, however nothing comes remotely close to the 4:1 ratio among Asian Americans.

>>139147656
It's not complicated, it's a ludicrously simple language. People only think it's complicated because of their primitive writing system and autistic decision to differentiate words by pronouncing the same sound slightly differently in multiple ways.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTHR_omZtXc

you pushed me to write this song Foreigners!

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Kek at the butthurt gook spamming spiderman as if this is /b/.

>>139157342
>global poker face

>>139147656
Why would you use simplified chinese as an example??

How did the chinese not switch to an alphabet system yet?

>>139149621
Those are anti Chinese psyops.

>>139159212
Gooks are brainwashed by leftism in America

When gooks stop being Democrat voters things will fix themselves.

>>139159402
cus the system works fine

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>>139148397
a new dragonborn rune is discovered

>>139159304
>a real life DJ Not Nice

>>139159269
as men we will sometimes be on a drought for months to years without pussy, women however are being fucked constantly once they start putting out

>>139159363
Damn that is so fucking hot. tfw no crazy killer GF

>>139159492
Just invent one like Korea did recently.

>>139159773

i can't believe you get paid for this

>>139159549
Don't hold your breath.

>>139159908
beats flipping burgers

>>139159072
It can be, unfortunately in a world of clickbait paid by the word, brevity and accuracy are not virtues.

>>139160031
thats not torture

thats a guy of a very poor family with cerebral palsy

that is the best they can accommodate him

>>139160031
What the hell

>>139158719
cooking dogo
looks delicious

>>139153394
That writing is equivalent to hard-to-read cursive writing in english.

>>139159832
Nah, I think it will happen pretty fast. There are lots of asian immigrants and asian cultural power is growing (kpop/chinese media/etc) such that they won't be controlled as easily.

Plus affirmative action is absolutely ruining Asian advancement in America. All of ivy league has same levels of gooks as 10 years ago with a smaller % of population. Gooks will wake up and realize their path to the top positions is being held down severely by democrats.

>>139160280
sadly cursive writing is no longer being taught in a lot of public schools

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>asian women are traditiona-

>>139160209
Basically asian women are fucking niggers, literal faggots and spics without condoms for the rate to be this high, especially if its higher than white women it suggests they are fucking more diseased strangers without condoms(which is how you get one at all) contracting more diseases. basically a filthy race.

>>139147656
how did 'POLITICALLY INCORRECT' get so complicated to understand?

You have to wonder how much of a burden the chink's writing system became during the advent of the renaissance, and more specifically, the PRINTING PRESS.

For thousands of years, different cultures needed dedicated monks/scribes/etc whose sole duty was to copy volumes and volumes of books and scrolls by hand. But then the printing press was invented. Suddenly, it became extremely easy to print tons of written text in mass production.

However, this only really works well because we use an alphabet. Whether you use roman or cyrillic or whatever else, you only have a handful of characters you need to deal with and move around to form words.
But then think about chinese and its logograms. Thousands and thousands of distinct characters for different words. You'd need to have an insane amount of character blocks for a printing press to work with all those characters. That must have stifled their ability to spread information, because they were probably still bottle-necked by the need for scribes to write everything by hand instead.

>>139151257
Well i know every stroke has a meaning when i do it

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>>139147656

I'm learning Japanese. Basic grammar is still hard at 2 months of learning.

>>139159780
>having stubs turned on

>>139158036
>meanwhile English steals impossibly long words from latin and greek for medicine and law
>steals words and phrases from all languages directly, without even bother translating
Tbh, the latter's not too bad. I see it as a pro.

I didn't know Spiderman was this popular in Chinkland.

>>139147965
>create a very advanced language that forces you to memorize a lot
Every language forces you to memorize a lot, you moron. Chinese characters are easy as shit.

>>139159192
Oh yes the cheating is very rampant. I believe it is because to Chinese people, life is essentially a game. Cheating to get status and wealth is perfectly acceptable as long as you can get away. Doesn't matter if people know either. So when they come here and cheat and still get certification, to the Chinese that is success. They think "Haha I beat the system I am smart." Problem is that cheating doesn't help you in situations like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trECGGIIZmw

Air china captain ignores his rest period and his crew because of culture is too cucked to confront him. So he flies for too long and is unable to read the instruments properly so he puts the 747 into a spiral and nearly kills everyone on board.

Do not trust these people.

>>139161212
only in their gay bars

>>139161070
I'm at about 3 years and production is still a bitch due to the grammar. I can understand written Japanese pretty well now though, and get by in basic conversation (but not quite at native speed).

>>139161342
noice

>>139152086
"hello there" is only 11 strokes though, where the fuck are you getting 18 from?

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>>139159512
HAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA...

>>139161070
>>139161439
Yeah, the grammar takes a long time to learn, but once it's learned it'll pretty much stay in your head forever. Words on the other hand, are easy to forget, especially since there's sooo many of them compared to english.

>>139159738
>>139159768
>>139159805
these are carred ESCARATOR, Chang... not Erevator.

>>139147965
>slave race
>smart
They're only good at trying hard, like their master taught them long ago.

>>139161772
krek

>>139159941
what the fuck?

>>139161070

How can you struggle with basic Japanese grammar?

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>>139161895
IIRC they're actually doing him good by removing dead tissue or something.

>>139161895
he went to /trash/

>>139161738
>since there's sooo many of them compared to english

Fake news, and irrelevant besides - you'll never use more than a few thousand of either.

>>139147656
same way americans got retarded

>>139161917
It's conceptually very, very different than western languages. Having a grasp on "classroom speak" is very different than understanding it when used by natives, in native ways, at native speed.

>>139162233
damn

>>139162233
>Anyone know about Chinese safety regulations
nobody knows because there aren't any

>>139147656
10 strokes vs 17 strokes

how is 1 more complicated exactly?

>>139158719
uma delicia

>>139162477
cuz of you

>>139162233
Well, for starters they don't seems to require machine guards with lockout switches.
On the other hand if you're determined to stick something into a roller that size it's getting fucked no matter what.

>>139160753
The purpose of cursive over block writing was always speed. Typing on keyboards overtook this function.

It's like saying we should still learn to ride horses after cars exist.

>>139152086
You can do hello there in two long strokes

>>139147965

you got it backwards.

>create very simple language that needs to add entire new characters for new words. wait a few centuries and memorization become ridiculous.

>>139162099
The average Japanese has a native vocabulary of almost double that of a native English speaker. If you want to be able to understand the language above the level of a three year old, you'll have to become familiar, one way or another, with a lot of words.

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>>139162639
What the fuck? I'm gonna need a basic gestalt.

>>139162678
The point is it's not fucking hard, burger. What else exactly are primary school kids doing anyway?

>>139159512
God, I hate you Chinks, you're all such arrogant fucks and whenever anyone dares to not love you sneaky, boring and deeply unlikeable people, you cry "racism" or insist that there must be a conspiracy.

Those of us who know the mainland Chinese know they're fucking terrible. And Chinese keyboard warriors are all over the Western world's forums and comments sections, trying to tell us how great they are and how great the Chinese government is - and how dumb we supposedly are despite the fact that white people invented literally everything.

Well, guess what faggot - actions have reactions. And here we defeat all trolls, be they Chinese government shills, CTR or cianiggers. And the idea of "Chinese people vely clever" is so ridiculous and stupid, it's very easy to remind you retards of this - webms being among the most effective way.

We memed Trump in to office for free and certain anons are taking time from their lives to remind you that we will never, ever, ever be impressed by you stupid, goofy, stink-breathed fucks.

You Chinks really should back the fuck off and learn some humility before it's too late. After we MAGA, there's gonna be a lot of meme magic energy floating around and we fucking hate communists here. Count your lucky stars we haven't decided to undermine your fucking government already.

>>139162053
>>139162127

If I ever visit China, I swear I'm taking the fucking stairs.

>>139162758
>weebs

You might want to check exactly who that list of "native speakers" includes. Emphasis on "native".

>>139161019
I've always wondered if the chinks' apathy is a result of having such a ridiculous huge population. Like some sort of hivemind negative feedback system where once the population gets too high, people just start apathetically killing each other off for no reason, and then no one else gives a shit watching the person die.

>>139149621
Do you understand IQ distribution? There are over a billion chinese, which means that there are literally millions upon millions of literal retards occupying the low end of the spectrum over there falling into elevator shafts, offset by the millions upon millions of 125+IQ slant-eyes.

>>139163079
probably has something to do with it

>>139162947
*cringe*

>>139163067
But I want to be the very best baka desu senpai

>>139163048
But I'm not OP, you newfag.

Also, (You) have made 49 and counting posts in this thread.

>>139162892
Primary schools are barely able to get the niggers to learn ONE set of writing. And you want them to learn cursive too? Fat chance.

For the record, I did learn cursive as a child. And the only thing I use it for is handwritten letters and my signature. Other than that, everyone learns cursive and then promptly never uses it again because we type now.

>>139163237
If China is so great, Zhang, why don't you FUCK OFF BACK THERE?

>>139157259
Wait till you hear Vietnamese!

>>139163375
*raughs*

>>139163382
>regular consonants
>aspirated consonants
>nasals
>tones
>retarded writing system

Whoever thought up this shit should be shot.

>>139163469
>8 years and fucking up Spidermanposting
Sad!

>>139162148

Give me an example of a sentence you can't understand.

>>139147965
this is precisely why they have to steal and copy. Their is no encouragement for creativity. SImply copy the best is the motto

>>139162758
But there's a lot more composition going on with Japanese vocabulary (especially Chinese loanwords). Words like 発車 and 入学 which are more specific than English equivalents but probably take less effort to remember their meaning than the average 'word' in English.

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>>139156952
The natural progression of /pol/

>>139163371
This is the beauty of cursive, it's a very simple retard/minimal effort/nigger detector.

And really, your mother should've taught you before you even went to school.

>>139163543
he's bumping the thread and spreading the wonder of chink hate though

>>139163836
Oh no, we're fucked until somebody ships in another container of internets!

>>139163738
I'm not impressed by your lies.

>>139163483
Exactly. You understand on some level that China is shit and you're basically a refugee from a culture unable to build and maintain a decent society. So you want to live in ours instead. Like a Somali, but a bit less shit.

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>>139147656

China is a horror communist bullying country. Horrible accidents and technical malfunctions (escalators, lifts). I will never visit that place.

>>139164046
I'm laughing at your stupid ass because you're living in a world of assumptions and believing all the tales you spin.

I'm not even Chinese, but you keep making these posts under the assumption I am. GG No Re.

>>139161213
LOL
If you're seriously implying that a logographic based written language with thousands of symbols can be compared to any latin alphabets (ranging from 24-28 in most countries) then you are fucking delusional

>>139156141
Absolutely redpilled

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