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Is abortion right or wrong?

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I think it's right, it is a women's choice and it can prevent the born of a unwanted child.
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>>139103241
Pro-choice people are total scum.
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>>139103241
It's wrong per se, but since most of its users are blacks, junkies, and other undesirable elements, it's a low priority issue.
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>>139103241
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>>139103241
Mr. Socko says to former president:

Run, nigger, run.
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>>139103241

I don't know, is killing another human wrong? Do you think someone killing you is wrong? Do you kill a lot of people who can't defend themselves for selfish reasons?

I'm not against abortion for children who would be born as gross mutants or so sick they'd die in agony, because that's mercy killing. But killing a perfectly healthy child? Is this a serious question?
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>>139103241
abortion is an evil ritual
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>>139103241
well on the one hand, banning abortion comes down hard on degeneracy, but on the other hand, shit tier genetics (downs) and the like need to be aborted. If you tried to have both, youd need government controll over which can be aborted, but then you have a government which can control what gets aborted or not.
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>>139103241
Abortion is redpilled it's a huge asset in the demographic battle and will allow more women to vote for the right wing
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>>139103708
pro-life people are christcucks
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>that fucking tattoo
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>>139103241
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>>139103241
It's personally morally wrong, but socially morally "acceptable."
That is, any person having an abortion is (usually) morally reprehensible, but they're a required social aspect for various reasons (ie less ghetto thugs and street kids).

I guess it boils down to sacrificing a life for greater social gain/less social burder vs sacrificing a life for personal gain and personal burden.

Though many abortions do the former, most are done for the latter.
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Abortion is murder, pure and simple.
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>>139103241
>illuminati symbolism on arm
deport
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>>139103241
It is the only thing controlling the nigger population. It also kills off all the genetic fuckups and stops feminists from reproducing.
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I was born early because I didn't want to wait another month. Women who abort can face God's wrath.
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>>139103241
Abortion is only acceptable if
>Mother was raped (especially if the raper was a nigger)
>Baby will be retarded
>Birth is danger to mothers life
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I support it up until 3 months. Its kind of hard to define when it is and isnt a human, after 3 months it will feel pain and thats when i think you have to draw that line. The left are right that its just a clump of cells to begin with, but the right are right that it is a human and it should have rights. Abortion isnt a black and white issue, there are many shades of gray.
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>>139103241
Speaking absolutely out of a moral perspective - it is immoral.
Speaking pragmatically a logical man CANNOT be against abortion. As most people who do have an abortion are of lower stock - mainly colored people, women who don't take care of themselves in general, and women with various addictions. And some I assume are good women.

The beauty of pro-choice is that you wouldn't really want to have a child with most pro-choice women.
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>>139103241
Unless there is rape involved people who have abortions should have their Fallopian tubes tied
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>>139104004
This
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>>139104073
>you are a clump of cells too
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It's ok if you know the child will be born with some rare illness or down syndrome
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>>139103241
Do Jews get abortions?
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>>139103766
That man is a legend. o7
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>>139103241
you are unwanted here abort yourself
abortion is the most effective tool of white
also, tell this to your master:
>nice Romanian click farm shill service you got there SOROS
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>>139103241
E U G E N I C S
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>>139104172
t. white trash bozgor.
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>>139103241
It's alright
Who fucking cares anyway, I don't get why christians are mad, it's a fast track to heaven
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I am in favor of Romanian people aborting their children.
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>>139103241
Well if you're against abortion, are you going to adopt it?
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>>139103241
Its wrong but usefull keeping minorities in order
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>>139104172
lol god damn auto correct deleted genocide out of white genocide
>>139104228
rly u want to make this one into Romania vs Hungary thread aren't there already one on pol currently
>>139104329
me to there is already enough sewer cleaner in Hungary
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>>139103813
could have closed the threat there.
>>139103847
We are feeding so many shits, as if these few actually matter.
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>>139103637
fpbp
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>>139104136
My point is that its hard to define when its alive and should be granted rights. Is it at the point of conception? Is it at thr point it can feel pain? Its not like itd not a human onr minute and then its born and it suddenly is. Its not a simplr issue, generally i think we should be cautious and rule that abortions must be carried out at 2-3 months unless under extreme condtions (mothers life is threatened, baby is ill or disabled, ect.)
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It's a complete shitshow. Killing a human is wrong and so is forcing someone to raise a kid they didn't choose to have.
Should be avoided as much as possible, i.e. readily available contraception, pregnancy tests etc. Also carry out ASAP and safely.
Basically discourage but provide.
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>>139104004

The nigger population is another government program. You can't justify government programs because of other government programs causing problems, because the root cause is the same. You're effectively saying that government is the problem, and that's why we need more government.
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anyone who is for abortion is a fucking Sub human, you cant be Aryan if you are for abortion
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>>139104154

Only if it's free.
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Opting to terminate a lifeform that's decided to find refuge in your frail cage is a meme.
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>>139103241
you know whar prevent the born of an unwanted child?

Use a fucking condom. Or kill yourself.
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>>139103241
I would ban abortion for white women. I'm fine with non-whites killing their kids at record numbers.

Volunteer infanticide.
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>>139104073
>>139104481

How about not irresponsibly getting pregnant and then MURDERING A BABY FOR CONVENIENCE. If it was truly legal and a moral principle, it would be perfectly okay to kill a child because you can't get a babysitter.

WHY should you be allowed to kill a perfectly healthy child?
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>>139103241
i think abortion is good you would really want that the offspring of that thing in pic related to be alive? he wou;d probably be a junky by 16 years old or some faggot liberal, this people better stay dead, so with niggers, every day nigger get aborted is good day to the world
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lemme tell you guys a secret -- papaya enzymes. thank me later
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>You fucked a nigger and carry his nigglet.
>Your parents find out and disinherit you.
>Your Nigger is already long gone.
You now have the option of either kill the nigglet and try with a white guy who can never ever meet your parents or birth the nigger and enjoy life as a single coal burner for the rest of your life.

Do coal burners deserve a second chance?
I think not.
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>>139104412

>tfw that guy is not dark skinned enough to be romanian

Get your fucking memes right you inbred horse shagger
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>>139103241
I think it's fucking bullshit that we get in trouble for killing people that are outside of the womb.
It's like, what gives those babies the right to be killed?
I should be able to walk outside and pop a few brains if I feel like it.
Especially the retards
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>>139104634
could´ve become the Kwisatz Haderach.
Thing is, you arent giving the Kid a choice
that is the Point
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrl9QQHY2vA
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>>139103241
>whatraceisit.jpeg
depends on the circumstances, but generally should be outlawed.
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>>139104728
the Problem starts with "You fucked a nigger"
everything else is just causality in effect
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>>139104777
i dont care about someone else kid, its his problem not mine, nobody told the junky whore to fuck without protection,

>kwisatz haderach
i dont think i understood you, you mean "a leap forward"?
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>>139104287
it puts the baby in purgatory
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>>139104619
Again is it murder if its not "alive"? When should it gain rights? Its first heart beat? Conception? Measurable brain activity? When it can feel pain?

I agree people should generally try not to abort a baby but i also dont think its my decision to make. Im okay with it up until 2-3 months because i dont think its alive yet so i dont think its murder. I dont think preventing life is murder, that is why i also dont have a problem with condom use during sex.

You should try not getting so emotional about the issue and realise that its not an easy issue to tackle because its not clear cut, we are talking in abstractions about things that are difficult to understand.
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>>139103241
(Pic related) should have been an abortion.
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I support restrictions on abortions for white females, but other than that, planned parenthood is doing a solid job.
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>>139104945
The kid could become a conservative thinker, could hate his moms degeneracy and start something great, that was my Point, sorry if i wasnt clear.
And if we let a kid pay for their Parents mistakes we arent any better than the BLM screaming for muh reparations
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>>139103241
I think its a necessary evil. I dont really care about niggers and liberals aborting their future tax payer money pits.
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>>139104136
>parrotting kike shapiro
wewlad
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>>139103241
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>>139103806
It's not a child. Who cares if these people have abortions? They're either shit people & shouldn't have kids anyway, or they have a very good reason for having an abortion. If we're considering the prospect of potentially having a child as murder, then masturbation and contraception/castration is just as bad morally, because you are preventing the process that will lead to a person. Abortions should be standard practice in places like Africa for example, give them a 3 strike system, if you have 3 abortions you get sterilised.
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>>139103241
I remember I was an aborted fetus once.
I felt so cold.
So lonely.
I really missed my mom.
I would have loved her, relentlessly.
I had a lot of things planned for us.
But I was left behind. It was dark.
Darker than her womb, if you can imagine.
Her soul is pure, my moms.
When I was aborted, I was around the devil.
He was pure evil.
He was a Jew.
He created chemicals that seemed clean
But what makes anything say I could not have?
Who says I would have not done better?
THE JEW?
THE EVIL BABY KILLER?
But I owe my mother.
You are a Jew, I know.
Probably all lonesome.
But to you; I was science and nothing more, you promised it was a great title, I'm sure.
But I also spoke with god, and choose my mom.

Everything happens for a reason. Some of us are aborted and returned to learn the true Jew. To see him. He commits acts of such violence and treason, that to me, are baffling. Why would he kill me? A blonde haired, blue eyed, non Jew? Probably his boss and controller. And so forth. I refuse to ever believe the world is controlled by Jews; Jews have a master, I know this for sure. Just watching him run to a corner and shake his hands in fear when the aborted fetus returns with rage; he gives them up as clear as day. If they were slaves, then it goes to say, they are ones even to this day.

Now, if only this damn slave can give me some information on his master, maybe I could free the slaves? :D
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>>139103241
Everybody is born to live a holy life and to follow the divine reason which is clearly against abortion, because the whole world isn't accidental, but has an inner purpose, even children with Down syndrome
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>>139103766
I've noticed that everybody who is anti-abortion
is also against supporting the unaborted children.
>CHILDREN ARE GOD'S PUNISHMENT FOR SEX
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>white women by far and large have the most abortions in comparison to any other race

b-but blacks do it too! its a redpill goy believe me!
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>>139105762
>1+1=2
>TWO IS GOD'S PUNISHMENT FOR DOING MATH!
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>>139103241
asa, si? Ce vrei? O medalie?
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>>139106034
Just saying my opinion. I'm showing that not all romanians are brainwashed by BOR.
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>>139103241
Would abortion be wrong if it were used to abort all gay babies? Well if it's just a clump of cells it wouldn't be wrong, but if a gay fetus is considered a person than it's murder.

This all comes down to whether abortion is murder or not, on the basis of "is a fetus a person or not". By using the statement of "To prevent an un-wanted child" it suggests that fetus aren't people, because if we took the logical suggestion of "People that are unwanted should be killed" and well you couldn't support that. We'd just end up killing the homeless, elderly, the general trash of society.

So if we don't consider fetus's people, than if someone like trump suggested putting something into the water that aborted gay babies, well then there is nothing wrong with that. The only question then is if the state can make decisions for you, which it already has and does everyday.

Honestly I don't think there's a huge ethical issues that protects the people from being forced into having abortions. It's no different than the government forcing you to take vaccines to prevent the spread of disease. Or well throwing you into jail for being too drunk.

You just need two presidents in law to justify the government genociding all gay fetuses. 1. Fetuses aren't people and don't have human rights 2. The government run by the people can vote for laws that takes choices away from people.

So yes abortion is probably wrong.
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>>139103241
Probably would have been a miscarriage anyway, looks like a greasy trailer park bitch.
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>>139104080
>And some I assume are good women.
chec.
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>>139103241
pills can sort out pregnancy easily within the first few months, which with accurate pregnancy tests there is no need for a woman to set foot inside an abortion clinic these days even if the birth control fails (coil,pill and so on). even plan b, make it cheap for ru-486 and plan b generics to be accessible and without a massive consultation just advice about how it should be used.

there is almost no real need for d&c or vaccum suction abortions except for pregnancy complications or the woman is in a very bad way.

any woman who comes in past 1 month and a bit to use abortion as a birth control who is old enough to know better (15+) should receive a tubal litigation at the same time so they don't do it again.
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>>139103241
I don't really support it beyond a certain date because it causes the child to suffer. On the other hand, it has kept our black population in check...
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>>139103241
Society and values have existed for over 20 thousand years. Just 50 years after giving women the vote and abortion rights society is collapsing, people are chopping their genitals off, minorities are ruling office and homosexuality and pedophilia are normalized.

You do the math on whether women should have any choice.
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Moral is subjective. What I consider wrong this degenerate considers it right.
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>>139103241
>I think it's right, it is a women's choice and it can prevent the born of a unwanted child.

I guess she could do that by MAYBE JUST TAKING THE PILL

OR USING A CONDOM

OR NOT BEING A FUCKING WHORE

Cases of pregnancy going wrong are hardly excusable, considering they generally happen when women are well over 30 or having kids with beta males of other races, and MAYBE THAT WOULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED IF THEY HAD GOTTEN MARRIED WITH A PROPER MAN AND GOTTEN KIDS RATHER THAN RIDING THE COCK CAROUSEL

Cases of rape are probably the only valid reason to get an abortion, but then MAYBE THAT WOULDN'T HAPPENED HAD THEY JUST STAYED IN THE KITCHEN, WHILE WE HANG THE NIGGERS ON THE TREES
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>>139104412
You're still not getting transylvania back steppenigger.
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>>139103241
>that face
>tattoos
>its offspring removed from the population
Explain to me what the real problem is here.
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Would it be possible to get hold of aborted fetuses somehow?
If they aren't considered humans yet, is it considered cannibalism to eat them?
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>>139103241
>>139103241
>that face
>tattoos
>its offspring removed from the population
Explain to me what the real problem is here.
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>>139106118
Nu esti dat cu aghiazma pe creier daca nu ai sub 60 de ani.
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>>139104617
Unless they racemix of course.
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>>139103241
Abortion decreases fertility. There's a better option for women. If they don't want that child but don't worry about the pain of giving birth, they can also make others who want to grow up children babies. In other words, you talk about adoption.
And don't forget, giving birth isn't the most painful thing you can experience, there's something worse. Here are two more painful experiences:
>stung by swarms of bullet ants
>achilles heel cut off

>>139105762
>>139105823
>CHILDREN ARE GOD'S PUNISHMENT FOR SEX
>TWO IS GOD'S PUNISHMENT FOR DOING MATH
Children are necessary for your civilization to last longer as a nation or empire.
Think about the following:
what will happen to your species if they have no sex for the next 100 years?
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>>139106729
It should have been done further up the tree so that further generations wouldn't have to witness that.
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>>139106730
You can find them next to the foreskins at your local medical suppliers.
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>>139106921
No not even that. Then that woman will forever be shamed as a coal-burning hag. Societal shame is a powerful tool.

No welfare for mixed crotch-droppings either.
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>>139106369
>Deborah
Interesting.
According to traditional Judaism, women are endowed with a greater degree of "binah" (intuition, understanding, intelligence) than men. The rabbis inferred this from the fact that woman was "built" (Gen. 2:22) rather than "formed" (Gen. 2:7), and the Hebrew root of "build" has the same consonants as the word "binah." It has been said that the matriarchs (Sarah, Rebecca, Rachel and Leah) were superior to the patriarchs (Abraham, Isaac and Jacob) in prophecy. The position of women is not nearly as lowly as many modern people think; in fact, the position of women in halakhah (Jewish Law) that dates back to the biblical period is in many ways better than the position of women under American civil law as recently as a century ago.
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>>139103766


Survival of the fittest, people with mentally ill mothers should not exist to reproduce and pass on that mental illness.
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>>139106922
>And don't forget, giving birth isn't the most painful thing you can experience, there's something worse. Here are two more painful experiences:

I am so fucking over women telling me that birth is the most painful thing anyone can ever experience.

Whore I've LITERALLY been hit by a semi pulling a 60,000 lb load, I've experienced more pain than you and i don't have a $50k/year failed abortion to show for it.
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I walk past our state's only abortion clinic every day.

The real question is how these idiots get in the situation to begin with. I give zero fuck's for the blacks that go in there.
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>>139103241
Women who abort a healthy child should be sterilized
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>>139103241
Abortion is red-pilled because every single person that thinks abortion is a good idea definitely doesn't deserve to raise a child. Hence why it's pretty much a self opt-in depopulation program of retards. Look at that girl in the OP pic, does she look like she would make a good mother? No she wouldn't, she'd just create more complete fuck ups like her and whoever was retarded enough to cum in her.

Another great thing about abortion is that it literally prevents the births of millions of negros. Any so-called "conservative" person that is pro-life is naive.
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if your daughter gets pregnant by a dinndu what will you tell your daughter if she wants to abort it?
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>>139107576

ill pay for it
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>>139105762
>that tired old commie non-argument

A right to life is not a right to money.
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>>139103241
this woman smiling and making a joke over an aborted baby should be shot and tossed in a dumpster.
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>>139106922
Would never let a random person have a baby of mine. Better to abort it and try again when I am prepared.
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>>139103241
Its ok to abort niggers and whites.
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Question, when are all Jews going to become Christians? Isn't that the 2nd prophecy in the bible?
>Jews get Israel
>Jews accept Jesus as their savior
>new age or new era that is better than this one begins
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>>139107777
Agreed and checked
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>>139108106
Any sane person should feel exactly the same way.
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>>139103241
Sorta wish she was in the sonagraph
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>>139103241
What color?
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>>139107373
https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph55dc9f1812aad

sometimes i fap to the thought of a black chick using abortion irrationally as birth control with an impregnation fetish and a liking for white guys.
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>>139103241
It may cull the black population down, but it encourages women to be whores with no consequences.
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>>139103241
Margaret Sanger endorsed it as a way to get rid of undesirables.

[Insert stats of abortion rates by demographic]
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>>139103813
/thread.
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>>139103847
Why does Germany always revert to the past solution?
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>>139103241
It's only acceptable when the mother was raped or if the child will be a threat to her life. Other than that, aborting is totally degenerate.
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Abortion is a bad sin, you'll be aborted again and again in your next lives if you do this sin.
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>>139103241
They should have the choice but only if they were raped (after it's been proven), the mother will hurt herself or the baby, and/or the baby will have a mental disorder.
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>>139110753
this.
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>>139103891

not so much, just believe that people should deal with fucking consequences
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>>139104073
By technical definition, everyone is a clump of cells.
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>>139103241
is murder right or wrong,

I think it's right, it is a person's choice and it can prevent an unwanted person from existing.
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>>139104136
This argument could be used to make murder legal.
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>>139103241
I don't really care, but I don't believe it should be the woman's choice in most cases, and sterilisation following an abortion would probably make more sense.
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>>139107154
Hitler's mother was a Jew.
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Op, the cucks in this thread are pro-birth, not pro life.
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>Abortion is wrong, but herp derp shitfuck
Nothing could ever make murder of the innocent out of convenience right. I don't care if it's black. They're retards, not animals, and being a retard doesn't mean people get to squish you because they can.
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>>139105320
Not a child eh? Then please tell me oh so knowledgeable anon who does the human female give birth to? A dog, a monkey or maybe a horse? From what I was taught at school human females can only give birth to human boys or girls. According to you a baby magically becomes human after it comes out of a vagina during birth, but when it's still in the womb it's not? And what's with this medieval kind of thinking that masturbation and contraception are bad? Both of them have health benefits. Using them doesn't stop already existing life. What does morality have to do with it? Because of people like you nowadays normal human values are treated as something fucked up.
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>>139103241
Just cos I'm pro choice doesn't mean these dumb cunts should fucking celebrate it. Abortions are like a rite of passage for them. They should be a last resort with lots of baggage.
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Eugenics are to be used to achieve a great society
Also think about it: if a mother wants to abort it means that she isn't ready and doesn't want a son. If you force her to have that son then he will grow as a degenerate because of the situation he grows up in.
So yes, I'm pro abortion but to make a better society, not to help women or whatever.
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Out of interest how common is the whole "condoms don't guarantee protection" thing? How common is it for people to take all the sensible measures and still end up with a pregnancy? When condoms say 99% effective, is that for liability or will 1 in every hundred instances result in pregnancy (assuming the right timing for the woman's body, of course)?
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>>139111651
majority of women aborting are degenerate whores though.
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>>139103241
We are overpopulated. I'll allow it
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>>139103806
Yes, the parent is degenerate and defective. Let them choose abortion.

Voluntary eugenics.
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If the woman voluntarily had unprotected sex with someone, the woman and the man should be making the decision together (with the woman having a final say considering its her body).

If the woman had protected sex or involuntary sex, it is solely the woman's choice on how to proceed.

At all times the medical opinion of the doctor should be respected for health reasons (but need not blindly be obeyed).

At no point does the government need to be involved in the decision. The government doesn't get to decide who you have sex with, it shouldn't decide on the consequences of sex.
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>>139105015
>Implying murder is bad
Degenerates should kill their offspring.
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>>139111651
In that case why doesn't she give this child to foster parents or people (heterosexual) that can't have children due to various biological reasons? Getting pregnant just like in in an example that you gave and then suddenly deciding that a woman doesn't want a child is beyond retarded? People should use condoms in such situations.
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>>139112147
Exactly. Degenerate whores should not breed.
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>>139112486
Would it be morally wrong if the mother was aborted with the child?
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>>139103241
It's cheaper than paying for their benefits and state provided healthcare, so go ahead.
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>>139103241
Yeah, but being ecstatic about it? It's a disgusting attitude. Abortion should be shameful because it's so fucking easy to avoid an unwanted pregnancy. Just don't let dudes plaster your cervix...

I say this and the last thing my biological father had to do with me was offer to pay for my mother's abortion. I often wish she took him up on that offer and saved both of us the trouble.

To reiterate, I am pro-choice. Though, I don't agree with reveling in it. Seems degenerate.
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>>139113156
It would only be morally acceptable if the formally pregnant woman consented to her destruction. Or the woman was a criminal worthy of capital punishment.

Children are the property if their parents. Am unwanted child is a burden to the parents and society as a whole.

Let's ignore the brown baby removal. "White" woman gets knocked up and the father is a degenerate child who doesn't pay child support and the kid grows up to be Carl the cuck.

Or she gets an abortion and later enters a relationship with a successful man and bears him several /fit/izens who eat oats and squat and never skip leg day.

The second is obviously preferable.
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It's wrong, especially x100 if it's late term, because it eliminates personal responsibility for human actions and promotes this whore mentality that we should be entitled to fuck who ever where ever and there will never be any real consequences yayz x) it was just fun sex times, it couldn't result in anything or hurt anyone, right?? let me murder my child and feel no guilt, in fact, I feel empowered by this

People who support late term abortion are irresponsible children scum who need to grow the fuck up and learn to accept responsibility
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>>139110847
I'd rather not have to pay for people's consequences
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>>139113996
What? Do you mean you're paying through taxes? Otherwise you're only paying if you fucked someone or you are with a whore, either way, own up to your choices and deal with the results. Fucking children
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I'm pro choice, if you want to murder your own innocent child, you should be able to do so.
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I think women already made their choice when they chose to have sex. If you have sex, you're choosing to procreate.
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>>139114393
I'm pro murder, if you want to be able to murder your own innocent neighbour, you should be able to
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>>139103241
>it
>they use he/she for niggers
English is really an interesting language, hopefully the kid was the result of coalburining anyway
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>>139114393
As long as he is a nigger or the parents have shit genes who gives a shit.
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>>139114450
This.

But sadly in this day and age children are brought up believing every action should only result in pleasure and no consequence.
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>>139114533
If they step onto your property, then yes
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depends of the race
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If abortion really is murder, wouldn't you want to keep the people who are willing to do it from reproducing?
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>>139114533
Me too
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>>139114988
When it comes to non-whites, the answer is obvious but white women are stupid and get indoctrinated so they don't know any better.
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>>139114203
Yes taxes are exactly what he means. He doesn't want to pay for other peoples' abortions in their taxes - they should take responsibility instead.
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It's good if the baby is a nigger

generally want white people to breed
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>>139103933
wtf are you even talking nigger. Sterelize the scum, no abortions needed anymore.
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Should be illegal for white people
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0pjeNigj1E
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Abortion should be legal because the woman cannot have her rights inallienably suspended for that of a child, however all people are abortionists should feel the full weight of their communities disgust. Let social powers control abortion, not government.
Legal, but not moral
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F
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>>139103241
I used to be pro baby murder, mainly because of overpopulation fears, life of the mother, rape, incest, etc.
Then I learned that over 98% of abortions are done only for the fun of it. Less than 2% is done for fear of the health of mother/baby, rape, or incest. Less than 1 out of 50 abortions are necessary. That's the statistic that made me really stop and reflect on it.
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>>139112147
And that's my fucking point
Do you want degenerate whores to breed with degenerate faggots and mass produce other degenerate whores who will breed with degenerate faggots?
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>>139103813
So abortion is never okay?
What about rape or with african people (overpopulation)
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>>139115127
If you want children you aren't going to abort.
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>>139103241
100% wrong
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>>139103241
idk, as a 21-year-old male with a long term gf, I like the insurance it provides. She's on BC but all I have to do is keep roughly $500 in my bank account and I can guarantee my life doesn't get fucked up. On the other hand, there are serious ethical concerns, and I think if we put aside the political aspect of the argument it's pretty clear we are killing a child.
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>>139103241
It's utterly evil to kill your own child.

>>139116512
>Do you want degenerate whores to breed with degenerate faggots and mass produce other degenerate whores who will breed with degenerate faggots?
YES, that's the entire point, society is beyond saving, we need to accelerate the decay. If we can uphold basic moral platitudes like "don't kill your innocent child" in the process, all the better
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>>139103241
It should be a right, but shouldn't be pushed as a first option the way it is today, and the father's should have *some* input in the process, even if the final decision is the mother's.

Hopefully in the next couple of decades, artificial wombs will become viable and unwanted fetuses can be transplanted into an artificial environment to complete their development.
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>>139112629
> it shouldn't decide on the consequences of sex
Are you saying that parents can kill their children any time they want, even when they grow up?
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>>139103241
What about the babies' rights? See, that's typically how liberals think right there, they cry about muh rights constantly, while they steady infringe on others. Example; Trannys have a right to be in the military, and use what ever restroom they wish. That's fine, but they consist of less than 1.6% of our populous, the rest of us has the right not to have to deal them in a restroom or on a battlefield as well. Same applies here, but on a much more serious level of course, fuck the woman's rights, the baby has rights too. Regardless if you are a religious person or not, abortion is murder.
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>>139115328
No he means he doesn't want to pay for 18 years of welfare for someone else's kid
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>>139106455
She cheated on you Marcel?
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>>139105015
> Again is it murder if its not "alive"?
But even people before puberty aren't exactly "alive" since they can't reproduce hence missing one of the vital functions (growth, excretion, respiration, movement, sensitivity, nutrition, reproduction)
So you can't say you can kill them because they're not "alive"
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If it takes mutual consent to make the baby, it should take mutual consent to destroy it.
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>>139108293
When the NT Bible talks of the chosen people it means Christians. Inherit Israel means heaven on earth. Modern israel wont be Christian until Christ comes and removes the unbelievers.
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Abortion is morally wrong. it's an a front to all nature. It's an act of pure selfishness only justified by personal convenience and turning a blind eye to fornication and adultery. In a strong patriarchy it's always illegal.

But, we live in a matriarchy where women can do no wrong.
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>>139103241
I only think Abortion should be allowed when:
A. The woman was raped and got pregnant as a result
B. The process of giving birth may risk her life
C. when the child look like a deformed fucking potato/will suffer his entire life if you let him live
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>>139110794
>>139110753
>cold blooded murder is only ok when X or Y
Found the hole in your logic
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>>139103241
It is a necessary evil.
Potential shit parents should not be shit parents.
Most pro-lifers hate degeneracy yet not aborting propagates degeneracy.
I'm just utilitarian on the subject.
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desu I wouldn't want people who get abortion to be raising and instilling their shitty values on their children.
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>>139103241
>unwanted child
I am okay with people doing it just do it on your own dime.
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>>139103241

Pic related makes me realise abortion isnt so bad after all.

She shouldn't have kids. And I know most rational people here think the same.

It's unfortunate these scumbags don't know how to use protection but it's immoral to have a child suffer in this world with such a disgusting parent.
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>>139103891
>christcuck for not wanting to kill babies.. mmmhh
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This thread has two kinds of people. Moralfags cuckianity nigger worshipers who think abortion is the reason white women aren't interested in them
And
True masters of cause and effect who don't mind infanticide when it makes the world a better place.
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>>139119923
>matriarchy
Absolutely. The problems stem from this matriarchal rule. Only possible from socialized wellfare and handouts to women and dominance in courts and popular culture.. It has incentivised being a whore.
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>>139120433
Babies who will grow up to be criminals who will anally rape you and your wife and children.

Some babies should not be born. It is just better for civilisation.
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>>139103241
Given that the people that opt for abortion should not reproduce its a good thing
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>>139120559
>infanticide makes the world a better place
sure helped you mr 48%er. but sure, screaming "Moralfags cuckianity nigger worshipers" works as well
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>>139103241

only if rape baby if the baby has a disability or if the babies are niggers or race mixes.
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Women who kill their own children are TRASH.
They are soulless subhuman monsters.
There should be a registry all women who kill their children must register to so men can know if the woman they may invest in will kill his child.
Woman are the ruthless killers of our world.
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>>139120559
Count me in as the latter. If the stats bore out different trends, for example, a mass of young promiscuous white women taking the easy way out for bad choices, I'd have more of a problem with it. But the fact remains that it's keeping the black population in check, and it's already culturally entrenched enough that it's going to be hard to get rid of anyway. So why fight it?

Abortion is objectively horrid. It's the massacring of an unborn baby inside its mother's womb, and that is disgusting and evil. Anyone who cannot recognize this fact is too ideologically entrenched in their rabid support of muh body muh choice horseshit to be worth reasoning with. But that alone is not enough to make me stop supporting it's continued legality for purely pragmatic reasons. Sorry, but we have too many blacks on this earth as it is.
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>>139103241
I only support abortion cause black babies are more likely to be aborted than born
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>>139103241
I think its wrong, but looking at that picture makes me remember tatted up whores with mongoloid features reproduce faster than genetically normal people, so fuck it.
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>>139104061
This
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>>139103891
I mean in Ontario you can abort a baby if half of it is already outside of your cunt while giving birth, in what universe is that reasonable at all?
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Here is 5 abortions that could have saves 2 good people;
Christopher Newsom and Channon Christian.
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>>139103241
Any woman who would have an abortion is degenerate trash, which is why it's a necessary evil. The dregs of society should not reproduce.
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>>139103766
Ironically, the abortion rate in the US peaked in 1981. Dark times those were.
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>>139103729
Dude pretty much. Even though I don't agree with abortion people who are scum are most likely to have abortions, so for me it's not a loss
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>>139103241
Right. Its a form of eugenics which I support.
Allow people to choose, the niggers, spics and white trash that would have kids that would grow up to be niggers, spics and white trash tend to choose to abort
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>>139104061
this
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>>139122975
Agree 100%

I have 3 sisters and they would never have abortions. Here is my nephew. He's a gift desu
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