Italians discovered and named America

>>139098713
*Irish were biggest manual labour builders

Friendly reminder Columbus never found where the US is today, he only dicked around in the Caribbean

>>139098713
Well by the time the niggers are done everyone will think the americas were discovered by kangz

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinland

>>139098932
But he did started age of discovery. Not only did that affect America but it affected entire world, all discoveries even Australia and New Zealand were started with Columbus and his navigation.

>>139098713
Italy is a younger country than the US
What you talking about?

>>139100201
China had already discovered them thousands of years before hand.
Also so did the Abbos.

>>139098713
After years I still wonder what the name of your country is supposed to mean. It stands for
>black mountain
or
>mountain of blacks
?

>>139104162
Black mountain, God damn it. Why would it be "mountain of blacks"? And are you not familiar with the dialects of your own fucking country?

>>139099134
/thread

>>139098713
America is called that way because some German cartographer said so though. Verspucci's name was the origin but the lands were originally named that way because of Martin Waldseemüller.

>>139098713
Ok, who gives a shit though?

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>>139098713
sir henry sinclair was there first

Italians are NOT white.

>>139098713
Africans discovered Italy

>>139098713

>Amerigo Vespucci.Italians (and the Irish too) deserve more credit

MORE CREDIT? not only is he the only man in history to have a continent named after himself, he has fucking two of them!

That's some pretty good credit.

>>139105616
>continent
You are just an oversized island.

>>139100201
>he started age of discovery
>all discoveries even Australia and New Zealand were started with Columbus and his navigation.
Kekistani shoul die or go to wiki before making shiet

>>139099134
Honestly we should rename the Americas in to north and south Vinland. Dumb fucking Spics claim credit for everything

>>139098932
This is the dumbest shit i keep hearing recently.
>Columbus never discovered USA
There is even a college humor video of this faggot "ruining" columbus for everybody claiming he never discovered USA

Like how retarded do you have to be?
I mean i have never ever heard anyone claiming columbus discovered the US. He landed in the caribeans which belong to the AMERICAN continent.

>>139098713

There is no evidence of Columbus being Italian. He never mentions Italy in his writings.

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>>139106242
>hiding your real flag

Meme flag were a mistake.

North America was discovered by Vikings while the Romans discovered Brazil the world and civilization is much older than we presented with and it used to be way more connected

>Columbus discovered America
Yeah, right...
Ever heard of Leif Erikson? Yeah, he discovered America 500 years before your south European weakling.
<Should it be named after him then?
Hell fucking no, don't fucking name a continent for a person, give it a name that has some remark to the fucking land itself.

>>139106473
>Like
it seems that you've been watching the movie "Clueless"

>>139108230
>before your south European weakling
You do know that you live as South as Columbus' birthplace?

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>>139106493
>There is no evidence of Columbus being Italian.
>except all the evidence which leads the extreme vast majority of scholars to conclude he was Genoese

>>139099134
Man is not our fault that you retarded vikings did some subhuman cottages and left.

If you wanted credit you should have conquered the land instead of running from the indians like snowniggers faggets.

>>139104860
Hi, servant.

>>139105599
Commit auto-genocide, then.

>>139098713

Columbus was a converso encrypted Jew who could barely speak any Italian at all.

>>139098713

Immobile is immobile. Slow as fuck and overrated.

>>139099134
how is this better in terms of "discovery" than paleolithic SIberians crossing over and settling? by your standards it seems the latter should then be credited

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>>139105599
Go home Vlad.

>>139108230
You're the biggest cuck I've ever seen.

>>139105599
(You) definitely aren't

>>139098713
>XV century
>Italy/Italians
Pick one. Even now Italy is a meme.

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>>139111520
>Italian peoples didn't exist before the unified state apparatus known as Italian kingdom first appeared
love this meme

>>139111520
Remember, we still have 0 terrorist attack and a divided left. While you make laws against manspreading, italian cops are beating immigrant ass.

>italian

you stupid fuck he was latin

and no he didnt ((((discover))) it, he accidentally lost his way in the ocean and thought it was india after a gay orgy on his ship.

>>139106493

His father's name was Domenico Colombo and his mother's name was Susanna Fontanarossa, both italians from Genova. His brother's name was Bartolomeo Colombo and he was a cartographer in Genova.
So he was definetly Italian, ffs.

>>139111820
Another italian discovered it, Amerigo Vespucci. That's why it was named after him. Show me your flag cuck.

>>139101514

What drastic demographic shift occurred between the 1400s and 1800s?

>>139111940
cant fucking ((((((discover)))))) a continent when it was already populated!

ay you dumb nigger whop?

>>139111623
Italy, like all states, is a social construct.
Northern italians have more in common with austrians and germans than southern italians.

>>139111820
He grew up italian and was italian...now you can argue that Italy wasn't a nation in 1600 but that's a minor detail. Genova was Genova and the language was already Italian language similar to how we speak nowadays.
His father's name was Domenico Colombo and his mother's name was Susanna Fontanarossa, both italians from Genova. His brother's name was Bartolomeo Colombo and he was a cartographer in Genova.

>>139112054
>northern italians have more in common with austrians and germans
Wat... fuck them, and fuck you too you D&C shill. Worry about Catalonia first.

>>139112054
>Northern italians have more in common with austrians and germans
lol

the fact that you confuse a state with its people says it all really

in any case, it's rather irrelevant, Italian peopleS are still a thing, nobody is saying they are all the same anyway, they just happened to be under different state entities, which before nationalism didn't significantly alter the sort of particularism typical of every big region of Europe i.e the fact that a Breton and an Occitan were under the same kingdom meant little in terms of identity

>>139098713
>>139098767
Italians and Irish ruined America, Jews were yhr final nail in the coffin. It was Getmans who improved American, integrated the best, and built up America's industry.

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>>139112193
Also why italian pride themselves of Colombus? He was an "italian" genoese merchant that discovered America only because of spanish material resources, and "italians" never obtained any benefit from that, Spain did.
Top kek

>>139098713
America was discovered by Icelandic Norseman Vikings who founded Vinland in New Foundland

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>>139112523
I get it, someone is asshurt a bunch of Italians stole the credit for one of the biggest discoveries in history. Cry more. Maybe if you had good sailors of your own you wouldn't have needed to hire so many Italians.

>>139098713
(((Columbus))) didn't discover shit.
The Vikings did. Then the templars made a secret expedition, which was known in certain circles in Europe (the church, the jews in Venetia, etc).
The Spanish kings weren't going to pay shit unless results would be more or less guaranteed.

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>>139105599
WATCH IT,CHRISSY

>>139112523
>WE WUZ COLUMBUS N' SHIET
So basically you're full of envy because an italian that worked under you discovered the land. He had the idea, and the benefit is having him recognized as the one who discovered it, and part of italian history and culture, plus America is named after another italian, not a spanish moroccan shitskin.

>>139098713
He was Ligurian. Italy was not even a thing by then. Hell, even Napoli or Milan were Spanish by then.
Spain also provided the technology to make it viable, snice there was no trans-oceanic travels by then. So ye, a crazy Ligurian made it to America, yet WE managed to colonize most of America, including California, Texas, Florida, the Missisipi, Arizona...
Those cities aren´t named "High Patrick", but San Diego, Palo Alto or Los Angeles. There is a reason behind it, mate.

By then most of Italy and Genova were basically part of Spain.

>Genoa was able to stabilize its position as it moved into the sixteenth century, particularly thanks to the efforts of Andrea Doria, who established a new constitution in 1528, making Genoa a satellite of the Spanish Empire. Under the ensuing economic recovery, many aristocratic Genoese families, such as the Balbi, Doria, Grimaldi, Pallavicini, and Serra, amassed tremendous fortunes. According to Felipe Fernandez-Armesto and others, the practices Genoa developed in the Mediterranean (such as chattel slavery) were crucial in the exploration and exploitation of the New World.[1] Christopher Columbus, for example, was a native of Genoa and donated one-tenth of his income from the discovery of the Americas for Spain to the Bank of Saint George in Genoa for the relief of taxation on foods.

>making Genoa a satellite of the Spanish Empire

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Genoa

The crew of the three ships that discovered America was also mostly Spanish, and financed by us, Columbus would have never sailed by himself, he lacked the resources and men. Stop appropriating our history.

>>139112665
Italy did not exist, therefore you can't claim that an "Italian" discovered America. Plain and simple.

>>139112458
> It was Getmans who improved American
I bet they did, you are the source of all the SJW and MUH RACISM shit.

>>139112822
>>139112901
>Napoli and Milan were spanish by then
>Genoa was part of Spain by then
>WE WUZ ITALIANS N' SHIET
Shhhh, it's okay moroccan shit skins, I know we are superior than you cucks.

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>>139112986
>a state encompassing the italian peninsula and named "italy" didn't exist therefore the people inhabiting it didn't exist
the lengths people will go to attack us are absolutely pathetic

>>139112901
and Spain was ruled by Hasburgs, Austrians, therefore u wuz Austrians, hurr durr

>>139112986
Same people that would be known as italians in the future. You're as pathetic as the nordcucks claiming that romans and egyptians were blonde.

>>139113129
>Hasburgs
>Austrians
Pick one. Originally they were austrians, but by the time that they were ruling Spain, they were mixed with practically all royal families of Europe, including Spanish royals.

>>139113536
>WE WUZ AUSTRIAN N' SHIET
You're rambling like a nigger now.

>>139113067
>I know we are superior than you cucks
And that might be why you are taking 1000x more lybians than we are taking moroccans. Because they don't want to come over here to the inferior country.
ahh, tfw inferior.

>>139113615
I'm replying with history knowledge and facts vs your feelz.

>>139113067
>>139113129
Pathetic, hanging to the Columbus-genoese theory like your existance depends on it all while being all uppity about it and trying to deny Spain its role in the discovery of America.

>Spain was ruled by Hasburgs, Austrians
How do you think that happened? Because they intermarried the Spanish monarchs and thus inherited the throne. The Spanish Habsburgs were basically Spaniards with an Austrian surname. Charles V was half Trastámara.

>>139113682
Are you living under a rock? We made an agreement with Lybia to stop immigrants from coming, and since we now have a costal guard patrolling the sea, immigrants are thinking of other routes. Or did you forget all those shitskins that landed in your beach while your people were relaxing? Right now Spanish is getting culturally enriched, meanwhile italian police is not giving any fuck and beating immigrant asses that remained here.

>>139112656
This is true. Leif Eriksson discovered America, we Nords were their first as always. The Italians just took the sloppy seconds

>>139113732
>Columbus-genoese theory
*fact

>trying to deny Spain its role in the discovery of America
nice strawman, literally nobody denied Iberian role in the discovery of the americas, you are the ones eternally butthurt about a couple of Italians being at the forefront of it, to the point of literally going full wewuz on Colombo and Vespucci

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Italy > Spain desu

>>139113837
wrong, some unknown paleolithic Siberian discovered America

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>>139113067
Napoli, Sicili and Sardinia were Spanish. Rome was sacked by Spain aswell, and they took Milan years later.
That´s history, no one is saying WE WUZ or trying to disrespect your nation. Colombus was Italian. But that´s it. Italy had no part in the conquest and colonization of America.

>>139113855
Yeah yeah but Nords were the first whites in 'Murica

>>139113726
>Says that Murica got discovered by the spanish
>HUSTORICUL NOWLEDGE!111!!!

>>139113732
>Taking this too far

>>139098713
>Stretches dough
So you a sayin
>Rolls beef
That a we wuz
>Presses grapes
A pinch of
>Changes sides
Explorers and a shit?

>>139113834
Yeah, you now have "just" 1/2 the boats. GJ.

>>139098713
Am I the only one who thought Chris Columbus was Spanish and now feels dumb as fuck

>>139114091
You and all the other burgers probaby

>>139113837
How come America wasn't part of the maps when "nords" discovered it? Maybe because they were dumbfuck and didn't notice it was a new land.
>inb4 Columbus didn't notice as well
Yeah Amerigo Vespucci recognized it as a new land, another italian.

>>139113910
>Still trying to WE WUZ
You're a nigger.

>>139113837
And way before that, some alien-bred modified humans (Viracocha) were released there to civilize the ameriniggers.

>>139113969
>>139113842

No but it's funny, really.

Only modern Genoese could claim that Columbus was "one of them", otherwise a modern Spaniard has as much claim as a Napolitan or a Milanese or a Sardinian or a Sicilian into claiming that.

Genovese people didn't even speak the same language as the rest of Italy, it was something more similar to Occitan than to modern Italian, but hey, whatever, it's you the ones getting all agressive and insulting us for this, you seem to be very emotionally involved in the Columbus-Italian thing that was created by Italo-Americans btw.

>>139099134
Swedes were never the explorer Viking tribes desu

>>139114042
>1/2
And it will go down even more, as Italy is discussing more of this with Lybia. After all it's usually those pathetic ((humanitarian organizations)) that despite being denied permission to act, still try save immigrants.

>>139114158
>How come America wasn't part of the maps when "nords" discovered it?
What do you mean?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leif_Erikson

>>139114248
>u mad xDDDDD
Pathetic, I expected more from you.

>>139114268
t. burger education

>>139098713
America was actually named after Richard Amerike a Welshman who funded Cabots (an Italian) expedition

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>>139113942
Leif Erikson was Norwegian you didn't discover shit swedecuck

WE

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>>139114248
>Only modern Genoese could claim that Columbus was "one of them", otherwise a modern Spaniard has as much claim as a Napolitan or a Milanese or a Sardinian or a Sicilian into claiming that.
jesus the mental handicaps required to write this is amazing
so you unironically think that because a mongrel ibero-austrian royalty happened to have hold of land in Italy and Spain, this somewhat makes you as close as a Genoese as a modern central Italian?
i'll just assume you are trolling

>>139114313
I am seeing your true nature in this thread, Italians, and I feel betrayed.

>>139114376
Leif Eriksson was ICELANDIC not Norwegian you faggot and I'm Half-Icelandic which enables me to live through his achivements so fuck you Sophie Elise

Italy was created in 1861 lul

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>>139098713
>>139099134
>>139108230
>>139111820
>>139112523
>>139112901
>>139113837
>implying implications

>>139114378
You fucking idiot, when Columbus came to the Spanish royalty for aid, the Kings were entirely Spanish, no Habsburgs yet. Fucking hell.

>>139114439
Speaking of traitors, the Catalonians are also claiming Columbus...

>>139114555
even so, you think one of your kings holding land in someplace somehow makes you, a descendant of peasants like all of us, somewhat closer to the people of that land?

south America was under your crown as well, guess some nigger-native mongrel from there is also about as related to Cortez as you are

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>>139114452
WUZ

America is spanish and all of you are spanish leftovers tainted with black natives, brits and germans.

Deal with it muricans

Viva l'Italia, her history and the history of her people and their struggles. God bless us

Dio benedica l'Italia!

>>139114773
Don't understand your point here. His nationality was Icelandic, not Norwegian. Stop trying to claim our achivements or I'll Fuck All Your Friends™

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_nufSwU-T8

Don't associate with me or my mother's people ever again

>>139114378
>Trastamara
>Muh Hasburgs
Why don´t you just go to tatoo some Tottis?
You´ve already proven how ignorant you are.

>>139115025
>butthurt tears
keep em coming

>>139098713
>>139098767
go to bed, amaro, you're drunk

>>139114773
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zu-UpOVAD9M

lol

>>139114324
t.low test beta cuck somalian cock sucking fag

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>>139114996
I'm Norwegian/Icelandic, stop taking credit for MY ancestors discoveries, I can literally walk 10 minutes to a viking burial mound where they dug up the largest 9th century viking ship in the world

>>139114158
Dude you're the one trying to WEWUZ, taking more credit than it should be taken.

>>139115412
I can walk 10 minutes to a viking burial mound as well, namely Björn Ironside's burial mound. But if you're Icelandic too then we are brothers, have a good day.

>>139115348
Statistically you're quite likely to be an actual nigger so you really shouldn't be talking down to anyone, Tyrone

>>139114714
Italy is a spook, as it is Spain, really. A union of sometimes very different romance peoples united by a modern romanticist theory and the standaristation of a language originally only spoken by a small but dominant fraction of people.

In that time a Genoese was closer to Spain (especially to Aragonians) than to a Venetian or a Umbrian. I'm not going around claiming Portuguese achievements because we are both Iberians, but you are claiming achievements from Genoa, a different nation of yours, because both of you are Italics. The fact that you Italians united is just a circumstance of history.

>>139115561
I know you wanna suck muh dik, Sven, don't be shy

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>>139098713
Why are italian-americans so superior to the rest of (((americans)))???

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>>139115626
Every single day I see a fine good thread without any cuckposting, then a burger comes in talking about nigger genitals and interracial sex/cuckoldry. You truly are a disgusting nation of degenerate race mixers. I can not describe my hate for you in words

>>139115567
why are spaniards the worst people on this board?

>>139115567
btw, you are replying to a bunch of albanians and romanians, the 80% of italy flags

>>139115567
the Genoese are ethnically indistinguishable from general north Italians and are fully part of north Italian genetic variation, that's the bottom line, and their dialect is still part of the Italian continuum

now you can go into more endless ridiculous particularism and claim that if you can't trace all your ancestors to the district some famous person lived in, then you have nothing to do with it

>>139115567
Longobards/Lombards are the best Italians

>>139115706
https://archive.fo/2FlLc sure, filthy degenerate Sven.

Go to the sources you faggots.
In his diaries Columbus mentions some land on his maps. Probably some snowflakenigger made those maps. There is also evidence that other cultures reached America from the other side.
All in all the first one to establish a functioning link and take all the gold was Spain. Columbus begged throughout all European kingdoms for funding for his trip and they all told him to fuck off. Only in Spain he got it, was refused first and then a guy convinced the queen it was a good idea.
So yeah, people may have thought about it before, and may have half tried it before, but never went all the way to actually do it.

>>139116076
Your country is the bastion of degeneracy, basically where it all started. And you're only 50% white so shut your mouth and start using those guns you talk so much about

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>>139116023
>average north italian

>>139116298
You can't even have guns you cucks, u jel? And at least we have a good % of our population that's not irredeemably cucked. Your country is headed to destruction much sooner than you think, faggot.

>>139116588
What do you know of our weapon laws? We can have guns, it's very easy you just join a shooting club or get a hunting license. Plus I don't need them cause where I live there are no non-Swedes lol

>>139116731
You faggots are too cucked to use them and I bet you can't conceal or open carry, and if you shoot a home invader you go to jail, so I couldn't care less about your pathetic gun laws. Only mudslimes are basically allowed to use guns with no consequences in Sweden, good job.

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>>139115914
>>139115963
Columbus wasn't Italian, he was a Genoese, sorry my veneto-romagnan friends, but you had nothing to do with the discovery of the Americas :^)

>>139117017
>and if you shoot a home invader you go to jail,
:( now you made me sad because this is true

why do u have to bully?

u want to break our fighting spirit

>>139117128
he was 100% ethnically Italian, no matter how hard you cry or how many damage control anime faces you post:^)

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>>139117216
>italian
>an ethnicity
>in the 1400's

holy shit, mario

It's funny how these poor souls have to take Italy's achievements to feel some sense of achievement itself and purpose.

>>139117299
ethnically Italian = part of the Italian continuum
it's not that hard al-andalus

>>139117189
Then grow some balls, organize and make a change. It's unacceptable, it's fucking Europe, the homeland of the white man. It's a fucking tragedy to see it degrade like that

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>>139117356
>muh italian continumm

don't stop, please

>>139117299
I truly feel sorry for you and your country.

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>>139117496
i don't care about you at all, pastanigger

>>139117487
>no counter argument
can't expect much from spanish """intellectuals"""

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>>139105599
Fuck off
I'm Italian and I'm white. My family is White. My friends are White. My hometown is White.

Italy is white.
If you are an olive skinned mongrel make us all a favour and move to fucking MENA you shitskin.

>t. Roman

>>139117534
As it should be, we italians prefer to be left alone while all Europe gets culturally enriched.

>>139117566
He is probably a gypsy using an internet cafe.

>>139098932
The big think was columbus discovered intelligent life in the americas. He went back to spain with chained up foreigners and encouraged all the other rich countries to invest in exploration

>be Spaniard/Italian
>glorify literal failure

Also, Columbus was a Portuguese spy.

and vikings discovered canada. whatever man.

There should be a big ass monument of Colombus and Lief Erikson giving hands

It would be cool as fuck

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>>139117557
>we claim the achievements of a genoese man, with a spanish crew, with spanish financing and ON BEHALF of the Spanish Crown because MUH ITALIAN CONTINUUM

>this is an italian argument

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>>139117912
>can't in any way disprove Colombo was a man from the Italian peninsula and closely related to modern north Italians both in ethnicity and language
>better go into full damage control

>>139117912
>We helped an italian man at his request to search for a land
>spaghetti discovers a land
>IT WUZ SPANISH CREDIT

>>139118114
that Iberians had the biggest input in discovering and colonizing the americas is undeniable, don't be a wewuzer yourself

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>>139118035
>>139118114

>Columbus was an ITALIAN man


pls don't stop

>>139118227
It was an italian who discovered the land tho.

>>139118241
>completely blown the fuck out, better start just posting funny meme faces
we're done here

btw, I was reading Hernan Cortes spanish wiki page, and it states he was "español" despite being a man born in Medellìn, thus having nothing to do with people outside of that village, care to explain? shouldn't you be editing that wiki page?

>>139118332
at the forefront, sure, but he would have done shit without the support of the Spanish crown and Spaniard navy

Did the entire italian /pol/ population come here?

>>139117566
Those aren't Italians.
That isn't Italy.
Those are American tourists in Brussels.
Prove me wrong, Eurofag.

>>139118545
He would find someone else to support his travel anyway.

>>139117853
This sounds good

>>139115567
>a people is closer that a people on the other side of the sea than to its neighbors

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>>139118441

Mario, Mario,....

Listen, it was ONE guy from the independent nation of Genova centuries before Italy existed, he was an incredible and brave guy who worked for the Spanish Crown, but don't get it blown out of proportion, ok?

It wasn't Italy, it wasn't even Genova, it was SPAIN, it was Spain the ones who trusted the madness of a marginalized and expatriate genovese and supported him with the might of the entire Spanish nation what made everything possible

>>139119306
*to a

>>139119311
It was an italian who had the idea.

>>139099134
no proofs mehmet

>>139119311
>Italia, a peninsula surrounded for 3/4 by the sea; the remaining quarter is protected by a mountain range
>somehow the italian people never existed before the creation of the state

>>139105802
Continent (n.) - oversized island

>>139119533
A genovese.

And his big idea was just going to India by crossing a vastly unexplored ocean.

Ingenuous, yes, but let's not get driven away.

>>139119966
Geography =/= ethnicity

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>>139112523
Do you know why Columbus didn't get the continets named after him? Because he was Genosese. Surprise suprise Jews HATED Genoa for centuries. But they loved Florence, which was a shekel pump and dump. Guess who get's the continets named after him? Amerigo. Guess where he was born and raised? FLORENCE, city of the JEW. He was most likely Jewish. American was named after Greatest Ally

>>139120114
It was an italian who noticed it was a different land.

>>139098713
we also invented modern Europe

>>139120191
sigh...

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>>139120251

The first European to sight American lands since the Vikings was actually a Spaniard, Rodrigo de Triana, who was the watchman of The Pinta.

We can always go deeper into the rabbit hole, my friend.