Non-Christian Monarchy

no, it would better if the heir could be picked.

>allowing people that love money to run a country
No
Separation of Church and State was a mistake

>>139083568
you do realize that the romans where sun tanned
guidos from the Southern Mediterranean right?

shit like that makes no sense. take a trip to rome now, talk to the older people, we are not nordic.

>>139083671
Could a king not do that? Senates and parliaments clearly can't.

>>139083720
But Christianity is inherently weak and communistic at its core. Unless you mean Catholicism which was a minority in the US anyway.

>>139083568
Anon, I'm not a monarchist but divine right of kings has at least some justification if you believe in these things. Why would you cuck yourself by looking for some seculiar faggot to rule over you and let his family do it forever, inbred and delve into inevitable corruption and degeneracy of monarchy? Why don't you want to become king yourself or try and build system where you voice as responsible citizen matters?

>>139083968

in a dream world we'd have our own american mythology that we follow instead of Christianity

>>139083948
>talk to older people
do you still have first century BC people living in rome?

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>>139083948
Octavianvs was of a higher class, therefore less out in the sun, and was reported to have blond hair and blue eyes. I did try to give him a partial tan though and maybe a bit of an oily look. Too bad his eyes came out as headlights.

>>139084097
I didn't say they should be secular. Egypt under their rulership and beliefs lasted hundreds/thousands of years.

>>139084252
That's what I'm saying. Right now memetics is serving as our tool to finding our new and stronger belief.

>>139084411
no but you have decedents in Sicily who will attest that they are Mediterranean or "Alpine". not nordic or slavic.

I hate how assholes on this board complain about niggers making up past history yet they constantly do it themselves.

if you honestly believe that the Romans where pale skin, blond, blue eye'd men you might as well also believe that the Egyptians where also Sub-Saharan Negroids as well.

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>>139084900
https://www.theapricity.com/earlson/history/emperors.htm

a lot of rulers are described to have lighter features by their bibliographers but a lot of paintings back then also picture people who seen much darker

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>>139085430
That's because the people of Pompeii were Greek. It's just south of Naples. Augustus was from Velletri which was nearby Rome and further north.

>>139085430
this is retarded
just because some of the emperors were light doesn't mean that italy was light at the time
its probably the same like it was in the roman times

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>>139084900
starting to sound a bit like "we wuz kangz and shiet" anon.


no. the truth is that Romans still exist today, at least for the most part people from the Mediterranean who can trace back their lineage to the same spot they where born. all my family was born in southern Italia and so was I. and we all consider ourselves decedents of the Romans, and guess what? we have black hair, and brown eyes and olive skin.

23andMe says I'm 98% east med.
but thanks to misinformation like this, when I moved to the US to study, people here now think I'm Mexican or some shit like that and constantly speak to me in Spanish here in NY.
because now only Scandinavians are real Europeans.

this is what typical romans looked like.
I'm Italian, to be correct,

>>139086201
>>139085430

>>139086201
venetians are the only white italians imo

>>139083720
>churches don't love money

Kek.

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>>139083948
>>139084900
>>139085430
>>139086201
Another potentially-interesting threat ruined by "is X white" kike D&C.

>>139086426
I'm still here anon. I just think that a new Christian monarchy doesn't make sense given that most people don't believe in it anymore and a pagan monarchy wouldn't work because it would be based on a dead religion only alive through speculation of runes and ethnic quirks.

Kekism was a step closer but it's been corrupted by the many shitty beliefs that infiltrated it here.

>>139086426
no it's just this image by cucks here who dye their hair blond to try and be more "Aryan" when in reality the Scandinavians never really did anything besides pillage other villages. actually, my grandfather used to say that they and the Irish are the niggers of Europe. and if you look at European history, it was the Alpines who created civilization.

aka the Meds.

>>139083568

Here comes the anti christ...

>>139086778
Well I myself am Alpinid. I just wanted to respect the historical accounts we have in order to bring him to life.

>>139086778
alpinids aren't meds
it isn't the same thing
alpinids are white, meds aren't

>>139086321
I guess, I mean, it's hard for me to understand why anyone would believe that people who originate from the Mediterranean sea are pale white or "norway white"

I mean, I just hate that because I have tan skin and black hair I'm suddenly not white when my genetic makeup says I have 98% East Med and 2% Tunisian.

>>139083568

Well no, because they only earthly legitimacy for any monarch is the Divine will of God.

If you don't have a divine right to rule, you're just a dude.

>>139087151
i agree with you

>>139087067
wrong op, alpines and east meds or just meds are connected and have a long genetic history with one another. Asiatic Alpines that live in West Asia are white, Alpines from the med are not white and neither are Meds.

but in the U.S. we are Mexican??
America...

>>139083568
>solves the issue of who comes to power as being through blood inheritance rather than republic/commie assassinations/coups

... kind of. The issue with monarchy is that the heir isn't necessarily going to take after his father. There's a very high chance that you'll be ruled by some weak little faggot of a King.

The transfer of power, especially in systems where one individual is in charge, is the unfortunate bane of every governmental system. After a strong leader has died, there is very often a shitshow that follows whether that's between brothers, officers or ministers.

Unless we can divise a way where the best man for the job is always chosen, I unfortunately think human civilisation is always destined to fail.

These ideas are very bare bones, do critique, I need to build on them.

>>139087187
Exactly. But I didn't say there should be a secular monarchy, just not a Christian one because there are too many flaws in its core. I'm talking about forming an entirely new religion as part of a new state like a post-paganism

>>139087392
you probably just look mexican
i look very nordic but i am not
same goes with you

>>139086981
just give him a tan, I myself love tanning, it feels good and it's also healthy to get vitimin c.

yeah, i'm that kind of Italian.

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>>139083568
Augustus Caesar spent a fortune building synagugues all over the Roman Empire and personally had the chief priest of Jerulsalem worship the Lord and pray to him on his behalf and offer sacrifices to him. Like his father, who did not take pagan omens seriously and yet was a very religious man.

Sound (((suspicious)))?
btw Jews love Augustus

>>139087402
>There's a very high chance that you'll be ruled by some weak little faggot of a King.
True but monarchies have traditionally lasted the longest and been most stable. Imperial Rome was only good for a couple centuries that then dove into chaos until its fall. However the Eastern Roman Empire survived because of religion and monarchy (Constantine's descendants). Rome itself was started as a monarchy anyway and went crazy when they kicked out the king for banging a broad.

>Unless we can divise a way where the best man for the job is always chosen, I unfortunately think human civilisation is always destined to fail.

The best solution to this would be something similar to the Pope deciding who becomes king or a wise priestess who prophecizes who would be the chosen one. Again religion comes in.

>>139087854
funny how that works out huh?
have you even gotten your dna tested?

I love when I see assholes who are "pure aryan" and come up with something like 35% Ashkenazim kike.

its top kek

>OP thinks blondes can handle living that close to the equator without being sunburnt

>>139088179
i can't really afford it, i am at uni and i am short on money right now
my family comes from dalmatia though, my guess is that i have some german blood, my mom is actually ginger

>>139087869
I'll do that but I made the pic months ago and am currently lazy.

>>139087918
Augustus is easy for clicks so I posted him. Personally I think he was just lucky to inherit a wealthy empire after killing Julius and implementing socialsim. I made others but I wanna upload them to imgur when I'm done and reap karma from leddit first. :^)

>>139088240
Hey go complain to the dickwads from 2000 years ago who said he was blond.

>>139086778
Newfag here, what's wrong with the irish?

>>139083568
an elected monarchy where only property owning white males who have served their mandatory two years in the military should be able to vote for the king. the person most qualified and likely to be elected would be one of the kings sons or nephews, at the very least to members of cadet branches of the king's line

>>139088240
THANK YOU

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>>139088407
>augustus killed Julius
WHAT A FARCE. If Julius woul dhave known that, and would not have put him as the sole heir to his will if he knew that. You don't get to be known as a great ruler by being incredibly stupid with people. This is hwy you don't suceed goy.
>imigur
PLEBBIT

Augustus was Julius's cherished son. He was not lucky to inherit an empire. He created an empire out of a Republic and he had to prove his worth to his father if you know anything about Augustus and Julius in Spain toghether.

>>139087922

>True but monarchies have traditionally lasted the longest and been most stable

I agree they've lasted the longest, but where are they now? They're durable, but obviously not durable enough else we'd still be living under them. Who's not to say our current systems will last even longer (I do not believe this).

>The best solution to this would be something similar to the Pope deciding who becomes king or a wise priestess who prophecizes who would be the chosen one.

Hm. I can understand where you're coming from, but there's still a lot of room left for corruption and trickery. Religion isn't a fix-all, as we've seen.

If only we could find a great leader and simply clone him for the rest of time. That'd be excellent.

I do agree with you overall though, I do think monarchism is the way forward - or at least a version of monarchism. I dislike living under the tyranny of the majority. Who thought mob rule was a good idea in the first place!?

>>139088777
nice gets

>>139088777
Also sorry for Leddit spacing, I legitimately just format my text like that. I do not own an account in that leftist hell.

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>>139088721
Augustus was not Julius's son... he was like a nephew of sorts.

>>139088342
so mixed race? I mean everyone has it, I have that 2% Tunisian, but I'm guessing that's Moorish blood, I just hate now now all of Northern Africa is being invades by Sub-Saharan African monkey scum coming to Italy.

the Saharan desert was a god given gift that kept us away from the nigger ape.
now we have cars and motor boats.
and now italy is a risk of being lost to the ape invasion.

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>>139088888
The digits speak

>>139088721
>>139088888
GET FUCKING TOLD ANON

>>139088888
wasted

>>139086426
yes shaliday, praise kek my fellow kekistanians

>>139088777
One of the main issues of a single ruler is keeping a wealthy middle class happy. One of the chinese rulers back in the early ADs actually burned an entire harbor of merchant fleets because he was terrified they would overthrow him. It likely cost china like 500 years or so of growth to get back to that point and likely would have been a super power if the emperor had not done it.

>>139088888
This means they fucked

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>>139088888
HOLY SHIT THAT GET.
>only a newfew
Well that is mentioned because the whole "julius Caesar was the pedo uncle who screwed his great nefew Augustus" was really pushed. It's more likely he was his son by blood, probably the 8th kid he had, hence Octavius, like your gets

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>>139089040
Do you feel in charge?

>>139088504
lol

what have they ever done.
my grandfather used to call them the inside out niggers. they are filthy drunks who can't seem to decide between the English language or Gaelic.

even though the choice is obvious; Gaelic
since they can't speak English.

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>>139089036
About what? Just because you have gets it doesn't mean youre right. Like the WWIII gets, but it does make it far more likely that God wants everybody to read your post. I'm citing history books here, the typical ones Seutonius, Cassius Dio, ect. You are more than welcome to prove me wrong with evidence

>>139088547
>vote for the king
I've never heard of that before. I mean the early system of the American Republic worked out fine but that sorta goes against the point of a monarchy.

>>139088721
>WHAT A FARCE
I just find it extremely hard to believe that a senile, stroke-ridden Julius Caesar who got stabbed by his own senate after picking Octavian, the same senate who applauded Octavian afterwards and helped him become Emperor, was not killed by Octavian (who was confirmed to have killed Julius' actual son as well).

>>139088777
I don't think an system can last forever but a new religion and a new monarchy is exactly what we need RIGHT NOW and for the next coming generations.

>>139088888
This guy gets it. Checked for both.

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>>139083568
we need an absolutist monarch, but instead of hereditary sucession, an elite school is needed that would filter out the incompetent until finally a king was chosen

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>>139089298
>doesn't like Caesar
HAHAHA PLEBBIT. Envious aren't we?

>>139089107
No. they weren't father/son by blood he is literally the great nephew of Gaius julius. Like the grandson of his sister or something, who married into a different family: Octavius.

>all these plebs who want absolutle hereditary monarchy

The correct way to go is an aristocratic kingdom where the king is selected by the aristocracy. This is how Rome was before it degenerated

>>139089367
I didn't say I hated Caesar faggot, it's just that he was extremely old and medically handicapped around the time he wanted to become a dictator. He had seizures over and over. His life of conquering the Mediterranean and timely death was actually a blessing on Rome and the best they could have gotten from him.

>>139089311
>elite school
Perhaps but the school would need to be unchangeable over time. No Marxist indoctrination. Which would be difficult.

>>139085430
that is because you are posting egyptian faiyum mummy paintings faggot

>>139088407
>I'll do that but I made the pic months ago and am currently lazy.

thank you.

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>>139089672
You don't insult someone like that and then say "I didn't mean it" man up and stand by what you said, it's edgey but at least it's not cowardly. Pol calls him God emperor for a reason. Also most roman sources record consistently that Julius was in top health even in old age, besides the seizures he apparently got, but that is also suspect since the only poeple who wrote this also hated him, they were senators

>>139089852
np

>>139089891
>"I didn't mean it"
I didn't take anything back
>senile is an insult
It's not an insult. It was reality. He wasn't gonna live much longer.

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>>139089557
Again you need to understand that the people who record this are people who hated Julius, they had everything to gain, and desparately by severing the blood tie from Julius to the rest of the Caesars, because the early Romans beleived only a direct Descendent of Julius could be on the throne or nothing. Caligula was loved because of his "close relation to Julius" sound wierd if the Senator pro republic were right about him. Although Nero was hated he was put up with for some time, for being related to Julius. Not having a direct blood line to the greatest of the kings is always the best way to return to a republic. Guaranteed. Think like the kike and you understand

>>139090021
You deny everything. Typical plebbit. We don't like the luke warm here,

>>139089087
Very interesting, I did not know that. I know little about Chinese history, thank you for letting me know. Yes, I agree with your point about the middle class. Ruling in any system is always a balancing act of sorts.

>>139089298
Understandable. Maybe my stance is a little too utopian; I just hate to see empires fall.

Introducing a new religion would be quite the task, especially in the modern West. I do think people need religion or at least a belief in something higher than ourselves but I think I've convinced myself that the West is now past the point of no return.

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>>139089672
I didn't mean a school in the conventional sense, more of hands on institution where the future-would be kings compete woth each other in simulations of real world. like war-games, geopolitics etc....

>>139087869
>vitamin c
why are southern Italians so stupid?

>>139083720
>Separation of Church and State was a mistake

Because Catholic on Protestant action in the 1600s was so damn wonderful. Its best that the state stays out of religious matters as much as possible.

>>139090387
I really like this idea, it's sort of the equivalent to officer training in the military. I mean it's obviously still open to corruption but less so than other options. There's also less chance involved compared to a hereditary succession. Great thinking.

>>139089311
Or rather succession via adoption and make it mandatory.

>>139090186
>Introducing a new religion would be quite the task
Why not start? It's clear nihilists will fail and the right is already seeing a rise. People want to believe in something. Maybe a dude having a vision and flying onto a rock wouldn't cut it but something will come. It's up to the right to make people believe in something they haven't heard before, whatever it is. It also might be easier than you think. People know much less than they used to besides maybe basic science.

>>139090387
Civ IV

>>139090587
You're wrong. A lasting, healthy state is infused with religion. See Egypt, early Rome, the Byzantine Empire, the Babylonians. Christianity is self-cannibalizing because it's an alien belief system, therefore Protestants vs Catholics.

>>139090849
there needs to be a hierarchy, a man at the centre, but everyone has to have an equal chance at climbing it. It's obvious that nepotism would corrupt adoption soon enough.

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>>139090958
>Byzantine
Forggeting how they had plumbing for a thousand years during the middle ages. A completely Christian city by the mid 300s AD. Don't kid yourself, you obvsiouly are only looking for an excuse to the faggot that you are OP.

>>139090958
more resolution is needed, CIV is too simplified
it needs D&D levels of complexity and more if possible

>>139087435
You idiots always say that Christianity is actually communist, whilst nitpicking scriptures to push your the religion as some sort of political manifesto. Also, tons if adherents of Christianity are anti-communist, just because you are butthurt that most Christians aren't commies, doesn't validate your delusions about it being a communist religion.

A lot of monarchies were derived from Christianity, by getting rid of one of the establishments of a political system that you like, would be contradicting to preserving culture and tradition.

>>139091334
because they haven't seen Christians pre-Vatican II , you can't blame them. The church lost in WW2 also

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>trust us, our guy is great. just do whatever he tells you or you can die. it's great, he'll never let us down. his replacements wont either. this system will always work because we can always trust our guy. he's great

>>139090958
>>139091220
I stated that wrong. The Byzantines were of course Christian. But again, they were of a hybridized belief system created by Constantine and were quickly harangued by Muslims after the fall. However had Rome remained supportive following the crusades (which wouldn't have happened) they would have survived. Again, the issue was Christianity itself failing its followers.

>>139091334
see this>>139091645
John Paul II helped bring down the USSR, but Francis and what he preaches are closer to what the bible claims Christianity actually is.

>>139088888
he adopted him though

>>139091334
For the record, the earliest Christians weren't communist or socialist, they were Christian, lol

Sharing because I agree to, think you deserve it/have earned it, or really think you need it is one thing. Forced redistribution via government coercion is another.

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>>139091689
>harangued
WTF kind of word is that.
>hybridized
No no this is too "muh intellect"

>forgetting MILITARY HISTORY
They fought off mudslime hoards for 800 years. You're citing ANOTHER positive not a negative

>>139090958
How is it clear that the nihilists will fail? And is the right really rising? I see a 50/50 split between the left and right at the moment, not sure about you. We're living in very important times, I'm not conviced of either side's victory at the moment.

I'm not sure if people DO want to believe in something. People, at least in this country, seem to revel in the selfishness of nihilism. I don't think it's going away any time soon, unfortunately.

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>>139092270
>how will nihilists fail
OMG KEKEKEKEKEK Oh my god oh my god, KEK.

>>139092270
GNON, and neo-stoicism are the future

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>>139092465
>gnon
GNostics are a plebbit Greece meme. LAME

>stoics
I didn't know you were fond of the slave mentality anon.... It is a commie meme

>>139092563
https://orthosphere.wordpress.com/2016/03/31/on-gnon/

not gnostics dumbass, GNON

then you provide a better philosophy of life

>>139092563
we are all slaves to nature because we are nature

>>139092127
>Yes the Christian Crusaders were definitely successful in preserving Europe
Anything right they did was anti-Christian
>Christianity: love thy neighbor, thou shall not kill
>Islam: purge the non-believers
>Christianity: wealth is sin, only the complete homeless will go to heaven
>Islam: 72 virgins
>Christianity: turn the other cheek
>Islam: abuse children

>>139092270
>How is it clear that the nihilists will fail?
They'll kill themselves or won't reproduce.
>And is the right really rising?
I hope so. At this point the current paradigm shift isn't like any other we've had before. It's not women complaining about alcohol or some Germans against Jews, it's one-lane street with two cars facing each other. The only solutions are liberal communism and collapse or national restructuring and progression. Centrism will never be where it was and the economy won't improve no matter how many so-called conservatives are put on Capitol Hill. People aren't as decent as they were 50-70 years ago.

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>>139092735
Forgot pic related. The post wouldn't send for some reason.

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>>139083568
>Pic related was colored by me btw
you seem to have made a mistake my snownigger friend, give him back his brown eyes now

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>>139092620
>Gnon
>GNOSTIC
>GNOSIS
You can't fool me

>>139092667
Id usually say "That's what you tell your waifu" BUT YOU HAVE NONE

>>139092735
Are you new here? Everybody knows about how great the crusades were. Only normies say these things

>>139088240
this is nonsense too, there are millions of blue eyed blondes living in Spain and Italy

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>Caesar
>blue eyed blonde

when will Nordics stop being ashamed of their non existing history and stop stealing from the rest of Europeans?

>>139093127
I'm not a snownigger, that's just what he's been reported to have looked like.

>>139093144
I didn't say they were bad, I said they were ineffective and against the core beliefs of the stupid religion you Christcuck. Stop shoving words into my mouth.

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>>139092127
>Don John of Austria
>(the holy roman empire)
>not the kingdom of spain

fucking triggered, he was illegitimate brother of Philip II and one of his best military commanders, at this time our crown did not include the holy roman empire anymore
he was born in the HRE but was a spanish noble who lived in spain and in service of the spanish king

>>139093467
I'm not really triggered but yeah Spain was great.

>>139092422
If everyone ends up believing that life is utterly meaningless then that is, in a twisted way, nihilism succeeding. No?

>>139092735
That's not necessarily true. There are plenty of nihilists who, although they believe life is meaningless, they still live their life. If life is meaningless then why not procreate? What's the difference if none of it matters in the end?

Your other point I agree with.

>>139093829
it's me who got triggered, pls change to (Kingdom of Spain) or (Spanish Crown)

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>>139083568
>Fucking retarded
Op dosent know shit about history. Kings got their title because god told them to and the church would legitimise the whole deal, it was a pretty good deal for both untill some guys created machines that could make stuff faster than people and people moved out of the castles to work on factories, then the pseudo intelectuals told people about science and how the church shoulnd be ruling the state. So basicly you cant have monarchy without the church. Op is also a cuck.

>>139093144

This is a really good post, anon. I've been a Christian for years and I'm tired of the meek nice-Christians.

Do you have any more content like this? I'd love to learn more about the deeper connotations of the Greek words in the Bible.

>>139093855
Define procreate. Do you mean starting a family and contributing to society or impregnating a prostitute and leaving behind a vengeful soul. Nihilists are mostly hedonistic and won't procreate unless it serves them some short-term benefit like knocking someone up.

>>139093424
That is Augustus, and he is literally described as blond haired and grey eyed. Read your Suetonius

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>>139093440
>>139093440
NORMIE

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>>139093949
Well great then. God bless anon.

Good night anons

>>139093958
So kings haven't existed before Christianity? So Christianity being written as lionizing those who are both poor and limp-wristed is what made the Catholic church powerful? The reason Christianity died is because sane people learned how to read.

>>139086778
>Scandinavians never really did anything besides pillage other villages
I give them credit for killing Christians hundreds of years after the real empire fell to christianity thanks to that scum Constantine

>>139094335
In almost every culture before Christianity the rules, emperors, pharaohs were always chosen by god and stupid people would only follow because of fear of being punished by god. Yes, the poeple being able to rationalize and read helped to destroy the church's power over these who govern.

>>139094783
and now we will have a new religion updated for the 21st century. just which one will it be...

>>139094783
But none of them had the weak message of Christianity. Even the Jews made God hateful against non-Jews. Christianity "became popular" because of foolish powerful people like Constantine. As this anon says >>139095034 there needs to be something else.