/pol/ is next

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>>139082855

The fire rises. :-)

Finally, maybe I will get my sleep schedule back

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>>139082855
we will just branch out into other websites like cancer, metastasising at unbelievable rates until we go full circle, having our space again

>>139082855
If they shut us down we attack them in meatspace.

>>139082855
The courts is the best way to fight this. I understand fighting the Jew at his own game is gutsy, but if we win a court case over this shit and use it as a precedent, it's game over for the scum.

>>139082855
We need to weaponize the sjws against silicon valley. Get everyone to agitate for Google to replace their CEO with a female nigger. And replace half of their white and Asian employees with niggers. We need to do this now. Spread it to black twitter. #GoogleSoWhite

>>139084077
This is a feasible approach if you can find a lawyer to take the case. Any word of someone putting this sort of thing together? The ACLU is ridden with kikes and won't be of any help.

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>>139082855
Ending /pol/ is the best thing that could happen to its users, all the right wing NEET racists would be forced to find jobs, socialize, and get laid instead of shilling hate 24/7 and being a bitter person

Eventually, you stop being a racist after you get a life. /pol/ is nothing more than an alternative outlet for sexual frustrations.

>>139084098
Good. There is precedent for this. A couple of years ago there were a bunch of SJWs agitating about this. It should be possible to stoke this fire again.

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>>139083623
/pol/ harbor on a global scale

>>139084510
the normies wouldn't handle it, many an hero's to follow

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>>139084429

>>139082855
someone needs to develop an alternative to the world wide web
as it is infested with Jews who are unsurprisingly shutting us down

>>139084429
>Dude hedonism lmao
Go back to worshiping your skeleton Mary.

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The final solution is quite simply: NNTPchan.

NNTPchan is a system in which multiple nodes host posts. Think of it as torrents but for chans, except you as a user never need to permanently host anything. That's all up to the system operators. Say a post is deleted from one node do to illegal content: Every single node would need to delete that illegal content for it to be removed from the federation.

Chanarco communism is the future. Why not have 4chan implement it? I'm sure many developers would step up to the plate of both developing the appropriate software along with many people to mirror 4chan.

You'd have the "main" 4chan gateway, which is moderated by the 4chan moderators, and then you'd have the other groups that are moderated by the sysops. You could accept what the 4chan moderators delete, or you could keep what the 4chan moderators delete with a note that the 4chan moderators deleted it (assuming developers implemented such features)

>>139082855
We can all go back to SA

>>139084913
Your new is showing

>>139083844
Kek

>>139084913
>flag
you nearly had me there for a moment

>>139084901
Pretty damned good idea.

>>139084971
Did you even goon, brah?

>>139084878
>socializing, finding a job, and getting laid is hedonism
What a fucking retard

>>139084724
What is your image supposed to be referencing? I said nothing of the sort.

Nice projection though

Finally then maybe i can actually get laid.

They don't realize shit like 4chan is a hydrahead. It will keep multiplying. It will never be put down. They are fucking with fat virgins with weaponized autism. Our cancer will spread.

Get on networks that cannot be shoahed. The only one I know of is ricochet.im

If /pol/ is taken down it's important to organize and communicate afterwards. They're coming for everybody.

>>139082855
>First it was PewDiePie,

What happened?

>>139085215
The foundation already exists:
https://nntpchan.info/
Clearnet portal: https://2hu-ch.org/

Make your own board across the federation: https://2hu-ch.org/new/

>>139082855
they wont stop at poll they'll go for all of 4chan

How the FUCK has someone not launched a right-wing oriented FB alternative yet.

>>139084971
>new

Been on this site since you were probably a pre-teen jerking off to sports illustrated.

I came to /b/ in 05.
I was active on SA until 08 or 09.

I started using the internet before your parents even met. Gopher protocol. QmodemPro. ISDN. Renegade. Doorway.

We can also rescind back to RFC1459.

>>139085313
this. like it or not we need a /bunker/

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>>139085385
das rayciss

>>139082855
>Removing 4chan from the internet.
Be one of the dumbest moves. Letting this much autism out into the internet would ruin so many things.

>>139085449
I'm going to "eight"chan if this place dies

>>139085536
How many monthly users does this place have?

>>139082855
>you can kill an idea
>the goyim will never regroup and retaliate

-the kikes, everytime

>>139082855
I thought /pol/ was satire.

>>139085334
I'm going to look into this project and probably get involved as a dev. The idea has great promise, but I'd like to look at their implementation. I think I see some weaknesses that could be fixed.

>>139085313
Tor, despite the popular "It's compromised by the CIA!" memes is still secure assuming you disable JavaScript on websites you don't absolutely trust.

Ricochet is also good. As is i2p, except for the fact the software is written in Java.

>>139085348
I don't think so. The site would come back, as an absolute last resort with /pol/, and potentially /r9k/ gone with much harsher rule 3 enforcement. The site itself will never go away because of /pol/, the site will just clean up it's act and move on, and get raided a lot by wherever /pol/ exoduses too.

>>139085449
>Not having a bunker already
With sites like endchan, 8gagger, lynxhub and meguca you DON'T have a bunker yet? wew lad

>>139085536
This is stupidity. The rest of the Internet for the most part is fully capable of silencing you. Don't kid yourself into thinking you can get around hotpockets. The hotpocket is the ultimate force in this world.

>>139085573
They'll get them, too.

>>139085709
if that happens I'll use one of the dozens of other chan clones.

So we can probably get around the communication shutdown problem should they move on the chans. Now: how do we make Google and the rest HURT for what they've done?

>>139082855
>how to fight back
the deep web? if /pol/ gets taken down some .onion domains should do the trick? also vpns if 4chan domains start getting seized/shut down

>>139085709
8cripple has gone through the Infinity Next drama, got ddos'd by lizardsquad for quite a while, has shitty software, was datamining users (although the data was encrypted and only accessible by the cripple, see /sudo/). If anything they have already been gotten. 15K of user-donations went to get better software for 8gaggle to solve a plethora of issues. LynxChan was made, and it won't get used. The cripple dug his own grave. There are many infinitly expanding imageboards that are far better than 8gag, some of which I mentioned earlier. You shouldn't go to 8gag and you shouldn't use 8gag as a bunker. Use meguca, use lynxhub, use endchan, use literally anything else. Don't touch anything Jim Watkins has his hand in.

>>139085871
Use that adblocker that fucks with their "number of ad clicks" data. It's forcing advertisers to stop funding google because the data they receive ends up being worthless.

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>>139082855

/pol/ is too valuable as a honeypot it isnt going anywhere

>>139082855
/pol/ is a board of peace though? Why would anyone come for us?
The board and all of 4chan are literally just sites that allow free speech about the topics therein. /pol/ does not and has never promoted anything, it is simply a forum. To "shut down" /pol/ would be an absolutely indefensible action due to this very fact.

>>139084971

Do you even know when tracking global, mass data collection on the internet began?

It started going live in 1998 with the Cisco 7200 VXR series.

What the fuck does the flag have to do with anything, try wiping the spit from your chin and forming an actual argument.

>>139084077
We have precedent on our side for a First Amendment argument. We just need to wait for them to overreach and knock a sympathetic plaintiff off the Internet.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marsh_v._Alabama

>>139085275
>\pol\ is for losers
>is on \pol\
What did Furio Giunta mean by this?

>>139086141
I don't really care how old you are on the Internet. I do appreciate your knowledge, however. To suggest going back to SA in its current state, to suggest having everyone fund SA for no reason when familiar and capable platforms already exists, is silly. SA is not the home of present-day 4chan, and the majority of users here have likely never even used a PHPBB/MyBB/vB/XenForo forum. They're not familiar with the format. You can't suggest people to go there en-masse all at once.

>>139085573
Cripplechan would be the first gone

>>139086033
Good. Is there a handy reference to information on ad blockers and other ways of depriving Google of their shekels?

>>139082855
THERE IS ONLY ONE CHOICE

GO TO ZERONET YOU IDIOTSSSSSSS

THERE IS A CHAN, THERE IS A TWITTER, EMAILS, YOUTUBE, ETC AND IT'S SHUT IT DOWN PROOF

>>139086388
Ironically there are too many decentralized solutions to keep track of. They all do their job pretty well but the problem is there are too many and it results in fragmentation rather than federation and unity.

>>139086388
Another interesting option.

>>139086222
>paraphrasing my posts this poorly on purpose in order to construct an "argument"
Can't make this shit up

>>139086033
This, the blocker is called ad nauseam

>>139084429
having a job is why I hate mexicans
over half of you fucks are almost intolerable to work with
I prefered blacks

It's pretty amazing that the kikes are already shutting down the far right on the web despite that being a completely illegal violation of net neutrality. It appears that western civilization is taking the plunge into naked authoritarianism. Trump's silence on all of this is fucking deafening.

>>139085334
Worst case scenario. We could use FIDO....

>>139086041
/pol/ is only a honeypot for retards, and if they get wrecked it's their fault anyway.

>>139086557
>let me make shit up on the spot

>>139082855
>>>139085750
>>>39084131

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>>139082855
What they're gonna do ? Publish my fetish for tentacle porn and impregnation ? Prevent my main accounts from using services I don't actually use ? Block videos I can watch on ten other platforms ?
They've only got the power you've given them.

>>139085573
been going to doublechin for about 2 years now, it's a good temp location, also there is an actual /bunker/ board

but jim is a mason nigger and I don't trust him in the end - there should be another place that's less visible, can't be sold out easily

>>139085689
this response was hapless and crafted without having enough information. do you enjoy being retarded?

>>139086388
that's more like it

>>139086570
What you are describing is not net neutrality. Net neutrality has nothing to do with Internet moderation. By your logic a moderator here placing a ban on a user for saying "faggot" would be a violation of net neutrality. Although I don't agree with it, that's just how it works.

>>139086651
Does FidoNet even exist anymore? I truly do love these networks, but even getting people to get on Tor or IRC is so fucking hard nowadays.

>>139086511
trips>dubs

>>139086511
What are you going on about, inferior brown animal?

>>139084308
>>139086198
Gab is sueing for being kicked off both apple and google app stores. Effectively fucking them on mobile

Watch the periscope vid on their gab/twitter accounts they are raising cash for it too

>>139082855
Bring it on. You wanna see true horror? Take away the primary form of entertainment and socialization for a community that regularly employs weaponized crowdsourced autism on a level that scares most intelligence agencies.

Picture the havoc that can be wrought by 28 million angry cunts with a thirst for revenge and absolutely nothing better to do.

>>139086198
Precedents have to be set for every new trend, which is why a precedent for broadcasting was put in place. We don't have a precedent for the internet.

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>>139084098
Me likey

>>139086721
How about you elaborate on how I'm retarded? Constructive criticism and discussion is very appreciated.

>there should be another place that's less visible, can't be sold out easily
I'll give you another list:
endchan
meguca
nextchan.org
freech
32ch
zerochan
lynxhub
.pl (8gag-associated)
IPFS-chan (in development, not yet available)
And lastly, NNTPchan

>>139086965
>We don't have a precedent for the internet.
and it should fucking stay that way

>>139082855
There just gonna kick a hornets nest then.

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>>139082855
i wish i could turn back time...

>>139086356

Thank you for a great argument.

I fully understand your position.

I much prefer something decentralized. Something with end-to-end, verified, encryption.

Free speech is under attack globally.
People keep blaming the jews, and although they are involved there are older and more powerful pieces on the chess board.

Khazars, Dragon family, Mitsui, those linked to Sumar, and those linked to the SR.

>>139084429
>would be forced to find jobs
I have one
>socialize
I do
>get laid
asexual

>>139085689
>Tor, despite the popular "It's compromised by the CIA!" memes
One of the most effective memes the CIA ever created desu. It's up there with "conspiracy theorist." People who are supposedly savvy to disinformation tactics have allowed their own paranoia to override reason.

>>139086832
You need a nanny or an English dictionary to interpret my posts correctly? You paraphrased me in the most retarded way in order to pretend I'm being hypocritical

>>139087214
>asexual
lmfao

>>139084098

Weaponized Diversity Hires?!

>>139082855
daily stormer is last on the list you stupid fuck

>>139087145
to the good old daaays..

I don't understand why the fuck hasn't /pol/ start shilling 0chan yet.

Seriously. There is no censorship, it can't be shut down, and thats it. You get a fucking twitter, email, 0chan, a reddit thingy, a stackoveflow thingy too, and you can write any site you want.

WHY DIDN'T YOU STARTED MOVING ALL YOUR POLITICAL SPEECH AND SOCIAL MEDIA TO THERE?

WHAT WILL IT TAKES FOR YOUR DIGITAL EXODUS?

>>139082855
>destroying a containment board
That's like tearing down the walls of a prison.

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Feeling Moody?

Just Moot It

and stop creating a front over a handful of shit talking backwards interns from some little cafe somewhere in Tel Aviv......

Mindopoly is spreading.....dont be a part of it

>>139087107
Of course! Let's let them walk all over us! Sounds great anon!

>>139086743

There was a resurgence of FIDO research in '15. I have no information on stats but I am under the impression its all academics.

Ignore the people who are publicized as hackers in the media.

AOLGUY4545, RAM999, LoGiC, we need you. Please come back.

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>>139082855
This is why it's important to support censorship-resistant technologies like Tor and Tox. The only way to ensure that we don't have our freedom of expression stripped from us is by ensuring that our platforms cannot be disrupted by the government, the developers, our ISP, or anyone in between.

>>139086689
no I actually do
more than half my coworkers are mexican and half of them are absolutely terrible

>>139086743
>Does FidoNet even exist anymore?

Of course it does.

http://telnetbbsguide.com/bbs/list/detail/

You can still telnet to some scene BBSes that have been around for 30 years.

You can also set up your own BBS, so long as you don't get so much traffic that your ISP figures out what you're doing. Other than that, there's always dial up and then connecting to the FIDOnet boards.

>>139087475
Hell, even mlh. You can come back too please.

>>139087365
>WHAT WILL IT TAKES FOR YOUR DIGITAL EXODUS?

The users of 4chan will never leave 4chan until they are absolutely forced to. You can shit on them via trolling them, moderators can deface an entire board, and yet they'll still keep coming back. I often ask myself why, and I guess the alternatives just have shitty moderation, at least in terms of 4chan users. Is no moderation the solution? Of course not, that's how you how end up with a spammed up website.

>>139087517
You know what else would be great? The site being made open-source. I've even asked to buy a license to the software, and I could afford upwards of $10K mind you, and I was flat-out told that "it's not for sale". A license here means I would have the software all to myself under the terms that I would never be able to distribute to it anyone. Got turned down though. I was planning on launching a 4chan competitor but currently none of the software is up to par (imo), I'll likely pay a developer to hack on an existing engine in the future.

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if you fuckers don't defend alll of us to shitpost then what are you for?

>>139086356
>I don't really care how old you are on the Internet. I do appreciate your knowledge

BTW: I help tbaur create the very first DDoS. smurf. Before that there was jizz, teardrop, and flaxanwings.

>>139085419

No one gives a shit. If you want karma and recognition for being an old fart, go on reddit.

>>139087276
What happened to the word "Alt" Right?

Someone crack the little 6-UP Code on the numerical pad?

Guess it is Alt Right = 6

like a 5+1 operation

ANTIFA - Anti Intifada

Snowflakes - Vermont based ops teams

Unicorn Riot - Who the fuck knows?

>>139087727
You sound like an incredibly interesting person. I would like to speak with you more often in the future.

>>139087746
>. If you want karma and recognition for being an old fart

lol thx

>>139087088
you assumed I didn't know about these places. I do.
your list is more comprehensive, and has value to those on /pol/ who didn't know about them. your analysis is simple, and without consideration of consequence.
the point of a successful exodus is A) getting all or a significant ammount of the community to move to any of these places (which I believe will naturally occur, and most likely on 8ch or .pl)

and B) convincing those communities that we should be welcome there in the first place. what, do you think you're just going to seemlessly integrate in any of these places? we will be refugees, what this community tends to despise most. the best answer is to create something new, the simplest is to move to the easiest place until we create that place. i don't know what that is yet, but i assume that 8ch or .pl is the best/simplest option until moves are made to create a /pol/net server that can't be shut down.

Isn't there already a 4chan BBS?

Is there Pepe-themed ANSI art yet?

Newfaggots. I tell you.

Nothing is going to happen to /pol/. This board is an essential tool of the CIA, and is off limits. You don't see the CEO of cloudflare mentioning /pol/ at all do you? Because he knows he can't deny services to the US government.

>>139087518
>what are stormie larping and fake narratives for 100$, alex

>>139082855
If they took down stormfront which existed for 20 plus years they'll have no problem getting rid of /pol/. Nice knowing ya goys.

>>139087920
AcidDraw.

Haha.

There is some ansi art. There is probably a BBS, question is who runs it though and is it accessible outside the internet?

>>139087949
I'll give you cunts one thing
you don't quit
all the niggers and whites usually didn't last more than 3 months since the boss is a sperglord

>>139082855
> purge of the stormniggers
Why is that bad exactly?

>>139087434
Yes lets let (((them))) make the rules/guidelines of the internet. I'm sure you'll have your freedom of expression then

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>>139082855
There are "newright" plants/controlled opposition like loomer. I found this (pic related) dont use the dropbox i think its a setup to dox pol. They also endorsed cerno aka dcresisterbee. Theres a big following of new right. Be careful anons. Been watching this coming for a while. Chaos is about to be unleashed

>>139088005

Stormfront will just go underground. It's literally stupid to remove them. All of them are survivalists. They've been preparing for this day.

>>139084724
kek this

>>139087866
>getting all or a significant ammount of the community to move to any of these places (which I believe will naturally occur, and most likely on 8ch or .pl)

Nobody will leave /pol/ until they are forced to leave. Several places that offer everything this place have exist. But people won't use them because there isn't a need. First come first serve applies here.

B isn't an issue for places with board creation and an administration that doesn't give a fuck. At worst everyone on 8/pol/ would tell people to go back to their "designated cuckchan board", and everyone here would hang out on their own, much more popular one.

Racists are a dying breed. This is the final dying gasp of white supremacy, boys. Take it all in. Glorious.

>>139085689
we already have a back up on tor.. wonder how many of you know about it?

>>139088289
It's not a worthwhile backup if a majority doesn't know the backup exists. Enjoy your secret club.

>>139088234
nigger pol is pretty fucking racist.. always has been

>>139085666
That's right. Its all satire. Performance art.

>>139088326
it's been around for a long time in case this place or infinity chan get burned down

>>139087727
are u xfrog

>>139082855
Take the tarp off the monuments in Charlottesville, it is illegal for the council there to actually do that...

https://vacode.org/2016/15.2/II/18/3/15.2-1812/

If we can win the war against the monuments, then we can open other fronts, showing we aren't to be fucked with.

We win global capture the flag, we can sure as he'll take a tarp down to at least uphold the law that Virginian government seems to not give a shit about.

If or when they illegally take it down, we find ways to neverendingly troll the fuck out of Charlottesville to where if I or anyone else stops by, we troll.

Stock pile on rebel flags, let the culture war begin

>>139082855

All you people talking about going to some hidden corner of the dark web are missing the point. YOU HAVE TO BE WHERE THE PEOPLE ARE. If you can't redpill normies, then your movement won't go anywhere.

The only solution is to get the government involved in insuring free-speech on these major platforms. The left is testing out the waters on the "nazis" right now after the setup at Charlottesville, but eventually the left will over-play their hand and start banning more mainstream conservatives. At that point, there will be a backlash and we may get some legislation.

>>139088081

>There is probably a BBS, question is who runs it though and is it accessible outside the internet?

It has already been achieved in the past, apparently. Some guy from /g/ set up a 4chan BBS accessible using telnet. I guess it died due to lack of interest.

>>139084429
And this is why we're building a wall fag

>>139084429
>forced to find jobs
I have one

>socialize
I do

>get laid
Not that often, but it still happens.

>>139088196
We need to fight this hard. We can't just be deplatformed and go underground.

>>139088474
No.

Are you from efnet/undernet hay days?


I tracked down mlh to AU back when he was hacking dalnet left and right.

Back in my IRC days I worked with hoopycat, alarnath, muffin, wd, some2, snake_-, skandranon, need, ahnberg, raistlin, luthie, and many more.

>>139084913
SA?

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>>139082855

Google takes into consideration all sorts of shit before they make any kind of move. However, it's Google that's too late. /pol/ will be fine.

>>139087517
>some fags on /pol/ are afraid of Tor
You probably shouldn't be if you're using it to access literal free speech.
>but the cia can hack tor
Stop downloading CP
>b-b-ut the mods on tor/pol/ can't ip ban CP posters
STOP SAVING CP

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>>139087706
cripplechan is open source. That's definitely better than nothing, but it won't help when cloudfare shuts you down or ICANN revokes your domain name.

>>139087517
To expand on why Tox (or similar technology) is so important for us to embrace:

1. Open source: Developers have no control over forks in case they become corrupted, and backdoors won't go unnoticed. Even if the lead developer dies in a helicopter crash someone else can take over. The network's existence is not dependent on any single person or organization.

2. Completely distributed network. There are no centralized servers in the network to target. No one has any control over who uses it or for what purpose. It can't be shut down, it can't be DDOS'd. It would survive a nuclear war as long as the internet's infrastructure was still alive.

3. State of the art end to end encryption: No one can spy on you, including the devs or the government. There are no servers on which meta data can be collected (meaning no one can see who you're talking to or when). It's a zero-trust system (aside from the people you're talking to obviously - they can see your IP address if you don't proxy up, which is the nature of peer to peer software).

4. Group chats can be hosted by anyone, have no moderation, and are invite only at this point. This can be positive and negative, but generally it's the most anarchistic possible mode of communication imaginable, which is in the spirit of chans and /pol/. There's also bots that can create pseudo-public groups that give out auto-invites.

5. Can be used over Tor for complete anonymity.

I've been a huge nerd for this sort of thing since the Snowden leaks red pilled me, and I think this is a perfect time to embrace the future of decentralization. Download tox, add [email protected], and join the club cyberia group. We can start our own group if enough people join up.

>>139087088
What kind of fucking nerd knows this shit

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>>139088100
In all seriousness, you might have ended up with shit coworkers by mere chance, Mexicans tend to half ass things but that doesn't make them detestable.

I struggle with this issue rather commonly when doing work with other Mexicans because I'm kind of autistic and I like to put detail and effort into things

What is it about your coworkers that bothers you the most?

>>139089012
something awful

>>139089108
>cripplechan is open source
Wrong. Codemonkey pretends its open source. Run diffs against the leaked source from not long ago and you'll that important things like alacrity, and trivial features, have not been included. Without it actually being open source, I have no trust for an already untrustworthy person. OpenIB in general is decent IB software though, but it's no Yotsuba.

Note: not even the overboard that was recently added is open source.

All your points on Tox are excellent. Screencapped.

>>139089235
Those nerds you shit on likely power this very imageboard and many like it.

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Go already, stop larping, populate the fucking twitter and 0chan

>>139089012

SomethingAwful forums.

There were three pillars of the internet meme machine at one time... SA, BB, and 4chan's /b/!

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>>139084429
nigger, having real life is what made me racist

>>139089374
>Oh, there's this nice new Internet thing. What's the catch?
<just expose your IP to the world goy!

I can see why people don't like this. You can use Tor with it, but even so... I can see why it puts off lots of people. I use it because I don't host illegal shit, but people will always shit on zeronet simply because of "muh ips"

>>139089108
Tox is a god damn placebo. SJWs compromised it years ago. Fuck you for shilling.

t. /g/

>>139088203
>Nobody will leave /pol/ until they are forced to leave.
so you're saying nothing will happen?
because what you described has been happening, and for awhile now.
I'm talking about a scenario in which /pol/ itself is identified, for whatever reason, and nixed from 4chan as an option, or the scenario in which everyone is "forced to leave". sure, might not happen, but what if it does? I wouldn't be that surprised. would you? what then? where would you go? or would you just try to stay on this shitty surveillance website and make your point?

it seems like you aren't considering that option, or refuse to, which is strange.

>>139089563
Wrong. I've been lurking in the community since the beginning and the developers literally kicked someone off the team because he posted some pro-LGBT shit on their official twitter. Show me one example of the devs being SJW's.

>>139089564
You're trying to get everyone on zeronet before this place gets taken down. I am saying that nobody is going to go to zeronet until they are made to go to zeronet.

>or would you just try to stay on this shitty surveillance website and make your point?

And now you are grasping at conspiracy theories about how our moderators are trying to keep track of it. By all means, populate zeronet, but don't expect a majority of people to go there -- or anywhere else, until the shutdown is realized. It won't happen until then, and when it comes back online, everyone will likely return.

>>139089278
2 of them just up and leave without telling anyone right before close, leaving more work for me, but for some reason the sperg boss is ok with that
another is completely autistic and antagonizes all the non mexicans constantly (doesn't bother me because I lay my head low), he also tries to manipulate what I think of others by blaming the other guy while talking to me
the last guy isn't that bad and just goes on his phone a lot, shows me a bunch of snapchat cam girls during work for whatever reason...
and that's more than half the people I work with on a daily basis
it's not much, but especially the mexijew psycho makes me irrationally hate mexicans

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>>139089374
>rainbow colors

Only a matter of time if not compromised already.

You can make a 1000 internets and commies and jews will over take it or shut it down. Play smart, not big.

>>139089543
> simply because of "muh ips"

In reality, IPs are irrelevant because the packet forwarding header contains the MAC address of the sender and recipient.

Realistically you need the router at first step (your ISP) to strip MAC info...

>>139088854
yep EFnet and Dalnet but I was in gaming and 3d animation channels.. I remember #quake3 getting BTFO with thousands of people trying to join when it was announced.. GOAT days of the internets

>>139089374
> Using a service which provides a unique tracking id for everything you do on the network.
Yeah no thanks

>>139089782
All software is "SJW" software. Doesn't mean SJWs will compromise the software. Even if the SJWs compromise the software, if the software doesn't serve its purpose of being immune to -all- censorship, the software is worthless. A recent addition to the Tor bugtracker was an option to filter onions so nodes wouldn't distribute hate content. This would be good for blocking CP too! But guess what? Nothing happened. The issue was closed. Even if a project is populated by SJWs, if it's a nonprofit you have nothing to worry about.

>>139088326
I'm a filthy casual when it comes to this stuff these days because I'm an oldfag and life shit comes up, but I've been around long enough and was in deep enough when younger that I get all of what you guys are saying. Let me create some infographics on backup comms and some infographics on ways to keep Google from getting their shekels so people can start spreading them around and raise awareness. We don't want people to get caught by surprise when they get the legacy chans. There are a few other things I thought of as I was reading this that I'll work on, too.

>>139089835

haha awesome.

I started on IRC in 93. Efnet/Dalnet, in 95 I started also using Underworld.

I helped create strawberry.pp.se with hans and skandranon and eventually sorcerynet.

selkie probably remembers me.

I also worked with some of the key people from ViX (root server for .com)

>>139089910
>Doesn't mean SJWs will compromise the software. Even if the SJWs compromise the software, if the software doesn't serve its purpose of being immune to -all- censorship, the software is worthless.
Exactly. Couldn't have said it better myself. If the ideology of the developers can have any impact whatsoever on the effectiveness of the software, then it's fucking trash in the first place. This is why >>139089563 is a retard, and why even though the Tor developers are a bunch of purple haired faggots, I still trust their software (to the degree that it does what it claims to do on a technical level).

>>139089543
Use TOR with it, what's the damn problem? There are ways to keep yourself anon.

>>139089782
>absolute liberal censorship hanging at us
>muh colors

>>139089877
use tor

>>139089720
Tox is pretty SJW with all the shilling they make and attempts to get away from 4chan and go to Hacker News and other places. They are always playing this little game.

There's also all these kind of commits they allow:

https://github.com/Tox/Tox-Technical-Report/commit/bc07310439b3c45d72e25ebac290b210e97bfb00
https://github.com/Tox/Tox-Technical-Report/commit/6ac41b9712315aba62720f5f7c1cf1b57bef2bd5

>>139090060
> strawberry.pp.se
Actually it was strawberrycondom.pp.se

Conrad, and O.P., we must organize, we must have an underground media controlled by people who love free speech, we must re organize, the fight for freedom and American culture must continue. We must be willing to die if need be to protect our way of life.

>>139084098
This. We need to use their weapons against themselves.

>>139090110
>avoid this CIA honeypot by using another CIA honeypot

>>139090167
american culture is already dead
and they are killing our older better culture as we speak

>>139090121
They attempted to get away from 4chan because of FUD shills like you trolling non-stop, which was killing productivity and scaring people away. The devs endorsed Donald Trump as an April fools joke, but the inside secret is that it wasn't a joke.

https://blog.tox.chat/2016/04/tox-endorses-donald-trump-for-president/

Anyways, it's entirely irrelevant. See: >>139090096

>>139088682
>the left will start banning more mainstream conservatives
>there will be a backlash and we may get some legislation
Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell would be perfectly comfortable with NYTimes and WaPo editorials being the most right-wing speech allowed on the Internet. We're not getting any legislation until the cucks are primaried and replaced with Trump Republicans--a realignment that will take multiple election cycles, if it even happens. The courts are our only hope at the moment.

>>139084098
>>139084494
>>139086997
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>>139090218
what we do is we begin the assault by mentioning the diversity memo

>>139084308
aclu isn't actually, what it's actually filled with is liberalist cucks

>>139083623
I have nightmares about /b/ being shut down for good. I remember the rest of 4chan suffered anytime the biz server shit the bed for even a minute

>>139090121
Your links don't even work. You're literally one of those /g/ FUD shills who copy pastes 3 year old old links in every thread about Tox. Kill yourself.

>>139090333
Trips of truth.

>>139090110
ZeroID is still a unique tracking identifier so you activity on one part of the service is associated with another part. Might as well drop zeronet and just use onions instead

>>139082855
>stormfront gone
Now that's something I can live with.

>>139088852

This is probably a good time to pull back and regroup. We now have a good idea of how extensive the problem is and that raising public awareness alone will not solve it. Exposing ourselves any further is pointless, we can't make this whole thing any more public than it already is.

Also President Trump has betrayed us.

Learn to read the warning signs. There is no limit to how far people will go to hunt down "nazis". We have to get our White Homeland first. Visionaries like Commander Rockwell, Dr. Pierce, etc. shouldn't be forgotten. This was what they knew too: if NS is to survive as a worldwide movement it must happen in the USA first, and the only way it can happen is through a White Nationalist revolution. This has already started. Now we simply wait for the radicals to make their move, and the reactionaries to smash them. In the turmoil we will rise again and seize some part of the USA for ourselves to set up a Nationalsocialist government, as it always had to be.

We are so close. Antifa is on the verge of being labeled as a terrorist organization. Do you realize what a victory this will be for us? Do you realize how long we have fought these people? Our most vociferous enemy, the #1 footsoldier of the jew, has been identified and exposed to the public for what they are. They're about to get cut off and isolated and they will die. This was worth every expense.

Streissand effect.

>>139084098
Google would be run into the ground in less than a month.

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>>139088618
>Rebel flags
>Culture

Okay, bud.

>>139084429
I became redpilled by working with nogs lmao. They were fucking worthless

It's completely possible to be redpilled and "in the real world:

>>139090688
Pull back and regroup where exactly? I do love the idea but I'm afraid a place like 4chan is no such place for "hiding out"

>>139090221
It's open software, audit it, faggot

>>139090523
You can change it anytime you want, faggot

>>139082855
They're playing a dangerous game. I mean, the basis of a democratic society is free speech. Take that away and what are people left with? Violence.

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>>139082855

Well if they shut the grid down it could cause a total plutonic reversal and I WILL NOT be held responsible for the consequences.

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>>139090110
Also if you use Tor wouldn't the content you get be comprosmiable via the exit node (assuming ZeroNet doesn't have something like TLS/HTTPS)

>>139090060
unfamiliar with anything that you mention, but selkie sounds familiar...

Those days were something special.. there was a genuine buzz about being on the Internet, as if the future was going to be something truly amazing... as if the entire world would turn into some Californiaesque utopia..
Then 9/11 occurred and everything basically went to shit, or at least the miserable truth became increasingly revealed as we internet addicts became obsessed with finding truth

>>139089755
what the fuck, why are you being so unrealistic
it's not that hard to 'keep track' of thousands/millions of IPs and traffic coming and going from this site. the government admitted openly to doing this with phones. if it's in the government's interest, they will track and monitor it. don't be naive.
Here, you can't post from a long list of VPNs, especially Tor. also, you can't post when using a http refferal blocker. you can do both of those things at 8ch and others.

as for zeronet, I really don't have much experience. I like it as an option, for many reasons, and I also agree that an exposed IP is not attractive. but why would I shill for something I've never used - because I mentioned it once earlier? seems like you're the one whose grasping, and you still won't offer an alternative preference. it wasn't a rhetorical question - being prepared is a smart thing to do in any situation. we may get to stay here for a good long time, but you make it seem like a good thing to get caught with your thumb up your ass.

>>139091119
Yes. That's why you don't use Tor over unencrypted lines.

I find it curious, people talking about IDENTIFICATION on zerochan, like you don't get ID'd in /pol/.

>>139091119
Not true comrade.

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>>139084308
>This is a feasible approach if you can find a lawyer to take the case.

Hiro is Japanese and he's loaded.
He'll have no problems finding the toppest of top tier Japanese lawyer willing to help him fight back against the evil white piggu man.

This is my flag. As you can see, it has never died, and it will never die. From the time of my great-grandfathers until today it has always existed and has always proudly waived somewhere, in some form... even if only as pixels.

Take a good look at it. Black, white and red are the true colors of the German flag. Nationalsocialism was and remains the quintessence of the German. It will survive and we will survive until the Heat Death of the Universe and beyond.

>>139091132

> Those days were something special.. there was a genuine buzz about being on the Internet, as if the future was going to be something truly amazing... as if the entire world would turn into some Californiaesque utopia..

Yes well to be fair, back then almost everyone online was there because they had a genuine interest in technology. The people on the 'Net were simply more savvy and smarter.

Once the big hoards started coming online in 97 it started getting worse. UI became more and more important. To us original users functionality was essential...

> Then 9/11 occurred and everything basically went to shit, or at least the miserable truth became increasingly revealed as we internet addicts became obsessed with finding truth

Well the mass tracking systems started being developed in 92.

By 98 something like 80+% of all Level1-Level3 providers had hardware based tracking in the CPUs. (Cisco 7200 series VXR)

>>139090979
We don't pull back. We firm up contingencies for the day when they come after the chans so we can still communicate, and we go after them in every way we can think of and give them the mother of all headaches. Hit their revenue streams, hit them in the arena of public opinion, sow dissension between SV and leftist groups, gather all the intelligence on them we can, etc. If the public knew the kind of shit Google and the rest were pulling as far as social science/advertising R&D projects, how they use data brokers, the extent of the tracking they were doing in the name of advertising, and how far into bed they were with the NSA, the public would be marching on Mountain View with torches and pitchforks. There is a lot of dirty laundry around how they do business that isn't secret but inaccessible for reasons of technical education, and that they'd like to keep out of the public consciousness.

>>139085536
Where would we go?, we will get banned anywhere else.

>>139083623
there is a reason this is called a containment board. we'll find areas and we will spread like the most of malignant cancers

>>139091228
I don't think the cabal of 22 anime and /jp/ mix tagged along with a developer or two and a random Japanese person have any interest in the data here. Primarily because there is little data to be collected beyond "X IP associated with Y post was used at <time>". You realize that without a subpoena, they're not going to get any meaningful information from an IP address, right? Hiroyuki can run all the ads he wants, I don't care. He's more than welcome to.

>They block VPNs and Tor
Due to the *massive* amount of abuse that comes from those services. 4chan is big. 4chan is an anonymous imageboard. There are no accounts to ban, only IPs. With VPNs and Tor the only effective way of banning people goes out of the window.

>being prepared is a smart thing to do in any situation.
I agree completely. By all means, tell people about zeronet. Tell people about the altchans and the IRCs. Tell them about fidonet and usenet, it's a great idea by all means. But you're not proposing that. You're saying for everyone to go there -now-. You're calling for an exodus, just like people on cripplegag have done in the past and even continue to do now on occasion.

>>139091631
Personally I dropped the prismpill quite a few times to people I know and got them to stop using Google/etc services.

>>139090983
You just don't get it do you faggot activity on the network is always associated with a zeroID even if you cycle through them like you change your underwear (about once a week) in the future if one post is associated with one of your many zeroIDs then all associated activity can be linked. Going through tor, vpn or another doesn't solve that.
Why don't you always post with a tripcode you can change it anytime you want

>>139091730
You can delete it... Create others, and there is the option of letting it stay on visitor.

I think you are a shill, fearing /pol/ bunkering itself away from your control.

>>139091714
Prism is child's play. Google Catalyst and Synapse. Find the 2008 IARPA feasibility study that somehow escaped classification.

REMEMBER, SHILL ALWAYS FUCK UP THESE BOYCOTT DISCUSSIONS.

THEY DID IT WITH THE GOOGLE ONE, AND THEY ARE DOING WITH THIS ONE.

THEY WANT YOU WERE YOU CAN BE SILENCED. THEY WANT TO ENCIRCLE YOU AND SILENCE YOU.

>>139083150
The fire is going to be smothered

>>139082855
They're trying to shut down Sargon of Akkad via a lawsuit lodged in New York Federal Court despite him being a self desribed "centrist". The battle to protect free speech against the totalitarian cultural marxists is the most important battle of our time, may God bless us all.

>>139091816
>He criticizes zeronet
>muh shilling
For the purpose of a bunker there are tons of other services that avoid this IP leak issue Why must it be zeronet *exactly*, again? Calm down. There are already tons of bunkers in existence that people will hop to when shit hits the fan.

>>139084098

http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/visualizations/diversity-in-tech/

>>139084901
>bringing back usenet
Do they even make clients for that shit?

>>139091997
Zeronet works.
Zeronet offer options.
Zeronet works NOW.
Zeronet is shut-it-down proof.
Zeronet could save free speech for us all this week if /pol/ decided to adopt it.

>>139090979

You Americans must learn about the Endsieg. You know that the term means indomitable perseverance, yes, but now you must also learn its infinite patience. I don't doubt that we have won many new Kameraden through what has transpired. The forge has been lit, the iron has been cast, now the hammer and the anvil must temper you into the Nationalsocialists that you were all called by Destiny to become. It's a beautiful thing to see.

>>139085419
irc isn't dead, shit it ain't even sick

4Chan owns its own servers so it's literally nothing.

>>139082855
PewDiePie was wiped from the web?

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>>139091833
They actually created the thing, and a slide proving that was published in the NYT as part of the Snowden leaks, but the import of what was being done was missed by everyone.

>>139084429
I was a liberal when all I did was go to school/college. Getting real life experience made me Conservative. Fuck off faggot.

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>>139092043
Yeah. You can just hook your regular old news reader up to NNTPchan and read posts apparently. I've only used the web frontend.

>>139092086
Zeronet also has issues now. Issues that are solved by simply using Tor. Tor isn't shut-it-down proof but it is far more private, more time-tested, and more "known" that Zeronet. You know what else works right now? Tons of shitty bunkers strung together via links. Zeronet *is* better than those things and I like zeronet. But the IP leak thing will always scare people away.

>>139092174
4chan doesn't own its own servers. A while back the new image servers that were seemingly abandoned were hosted out of OVH in Montreal, Canada. Also there was some squid server that was running out of OVH as well, forgot about the details or I'm misremembering things. Even if 4chan owns its own servers they can just go to the server provider / ISP and get them to kill access. It's like saying I own my computer but Comcast can't shut me down.

>>139092139

I cannot comment.

My IRC usage slowed down starting in 04. By 2010 I rarely went on IRC apart from DCC/XFER/XDCC.

My problem is I stopped programming in 99 (C/C+, TASM/MASM, Basic, VB, Hyper...something it was MacOS4-8) then started playing WoW in 07. All my 'free time' was used up playing WoW... :(

I wasted a lot of time, energy, and money on that game :/

>>139091816
There are definitely shills in this thread attempting to scare people away from censorship-resistant technology.

>Tor is a honeypot even though it's open source
>Tox devs are SJW's even though they endorsed Trump
>ZeroID has unique identifiers and I'm too retarded to change it

These are the same people who post anti-Trump threads and interracial porn.

>>139091816
Kek zeronet shill calling someone else a shill
> implying I can even control my bowel

Got no issue with bunkering but shouldn't move from a brick house to a bunker made of sticks

>>139092480
*zeronet

>>139082855
I think they understand if we arent contain we would take over twitter or something

>>139091714
why are you putting words in my mouth? also what is this level of faggotry where you act like you know everything? I'm not saying Hiroyuki himself has any interest in the data. I'm saying that government agencies do, and that you don't know what you don't know. why the hell would I just stop my line of thought at "oh Hiro doesn't care, so why should I?"
The scenario in which 4/pol/ gets shut down IS the scenario in which ALL of 4chan is threatened, by said agencies. the compromise would be /pol/'s sacrifice, period. it's only professional.

this place's genius and saving grace is freedom of speech and the (poor) excuse of satire. what I was talking about was marketing (daily stormer et al marketed themselves poorly). I'm not talking about a fucking terrorist cell. need I mention the phenomena of agent posters, and getting v&? they're here, you child, and like I said before, they care about the data that interests them, and you're naive if you think otherwise.

also, I'm not the zeronet shill. you should really look at ID's when you're replying, and not just flags, my dumbest dude

>>139092587
>I'm saying that government agencies do, and that you don't know what you don't know. why the hell would I just stop my line of thought at "oh Hiro doesn't care, so why should I?"

Threat modeling. You should learn what it is. The government doesn't have access to 4chan data. You are a conspiracy theorist working out of conspiracy theories.

>IDs
That was my mistake. My bad. These flags are both a blessing and a curse.

>>139092673
>The government doesn't have access to 4chan data.
Why do you believe this? I wouldn't be surprised if the government had direct access to 4chan's servers, the same way they do with Skype and Facebook servers.

>>139086570
We are transitioning into raceless imperial citizenry as Spengler guessed.

>>139092480
These are the same people who boycott EVERY anti-google thread. Expose the shills. Discord faggots, for sure.

>>139082855
There are many pols.

>>139082855
you do realize that cloudflare could not shut down 4chan for the reason it shutdown the daily stormer. the "Hate" as they define it comes from their users and is not the websites focus.

>>139085275
>images need context

why are beans such dumb misfits literally everywhere?

>>139092530
So stfu shill.

>>139092383
The only issue is your shilling, kys.

Those people really don't fucking want /pol/ to get out of the places where they could get hit. /pol/ wake the fuck up and do something about censorship, go to fucking zeronet, and drag the rest of the normies along with it. Make decentralized network a real thing, make fucking history!

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>PewDiePie
>Daily Stormer
>Facebook
>e-celebs
>Stormfront
KYS hopelessly retarded faggot

better invest in a HAM radio

>>139093233
VA3 BRB

Who can possibly be behind all those anty-privacy, anti-cyber liberal corporations boycott and anti-bunkering efforts on /pol/?

Is it antifa? Is it communists? Is it LGBT? Democrats like shillblue?

>>139092673
NSA can find out anything they want about 4chan users. Either downstream pulls from the servers or from upstream collection. It might not be a huge priority as far as analytical resources go, though with the Russia shit who knows anymore.

Also, remember this: Snowden's stuff is ten years old at this point.

>>139093131
>shills shills and muh shilling

>>139092754
>Why do you believe this?
For the same reason I think the government doesn't have access to the servers of other services. Quite simply, there is no data to be claimed here. No data = no interest.

>>139093419
I haven't seen anyone here against privacy. I've only seen people against zeronet -- well, there was more than a few people who spewed FUD about Tor and ZeroNet being CIA honeypots, but those people were quickly dismissed.

>>139093419
All the groups that want sheeple who don't think for themselves.

If you think critically and speak out against the system, the system tries to crush you.

To me that signals that the system is in the wrong.

If the system was strong it would absorb criticism and change when needed.

>>139093580
Fuck off faggot, you are clearly a disinfo shill. Seriously, GTFO. It's very easy to spot.

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>>139093641
How about you bite my ass instead

>>139084098
Good idea actually. What can they say against this? Haha.

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>youngfags claiming 4chinz goes down
>mfw i read this every year

>>139093710
kys shill disinfo agent

>>139092673
>Threat modeling
>the government doesn't have access to 4chan's data
>being this cucked
how would you even know when the trend in the last 5 years alone has skewed towards obvious internet surveillance, algorithms, and web crawlers that collect data from specific sites? that's why most of us are ITT this site doesn't even fucking work with javascript disabled, that should tell you something.
4chan is clearnet. they don't need "data" (wtf do you even mean by this) I'm talking about super-elite-global-ZOG agencies that are hired to monitor places like this and spread chaos in the ranks. CTR, shareblue, JIDF, etc. do you really think that daily stormer etc got shut down because someone was looking at their "data". they know what goes on here, 4/pol/ just too retarded to label it a 'movement' so it goes relatively untouched through guerilla shill tactics.

but pretending this isn't a problem doesn't help the situation. you still haven't posited a solution, other than "nothing will happen goyim pls stay". thought you were a shill from the get, but you really are starting to let you inner faggot shine

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What if, if, if, maybe if, if, what could happen if, if, when that happens then we just flood all social media and try to become all internet on /pol/?

>>139082855
>implying anything of worth would be lost if /pol/ disappeared

Pewdoggy didnt go anywhere. Hes pushing 60 million subs. Not bad for a formerly introverted gamer channel that streamed Garys Mod on the weekends.

>>139093580
>For the same reason I think the government doesn't have access to the servers of other services. Quite simply, there is no data to be claimed here. No data = no interest.
Are you smoking crack at this very moment? 4chan has access to your entire post history. They can match your IP to other services like Skype, facebook, gmail etc. and create a more detailed and intimate personal profile of you than anyone in real life could ever have access to. This was all detailed years ago in the Snowden leaks.

>>139094289
a /pol/gularity

>>139094444
what have you done

>>139094067
Keep in mind all the other types of tracking.

Port 79 (finger) on routers which tends to be closed these days but doesn't change the functionality.

MAC addresses buried in parts of packets that remain un-encrypted.

If you use the internet from a DSL or from a Cable connection the Redback (or whatever variant your ISP uses) and the CMTS can record a lot of interesting data.

I am not forgetting fibre -- FMS do the same.

Even if you go back to dialup lots of interesting data is recorded.

In North America if you use any communications device it or 'meta data' is recorded.

>>139092043
Thunderbird, and SLRN got an update just last year.

The thing is, we have all what we need already. We don't need new platforms and programs because very old and well-tested utilities have existed for years that do what we want.

The problem will be weaning people off of large data formats like video in order to make it so these nodes can be maintained by regular people. FidoNet routing was organised by hand.

>>139082855
I don't like stormfags anyway. I'm for classical liberalism, Not this fascist neo-communist bullshit.

>>139094623
>4chan has access to your entire post history

Do you mean the 4chan administrator, the 4chan moderators, the 4chan janitors, or all of the above?

>They can match your IP to services like Skype...
Why are you using those services?

Quite simply: If you're concerned with 4chan keeping data on you, don't use 4chan. And use what you consider to be secure. I don't think that 4chan keeps private data, and I don't use shitty services. So I don't really care.

Remember to spread analogue memes/redpills by paper if they ever take down 4chan.

>>139095292
>Do you mean the 4chan administrator, the 4chan moderators, the 4chan janitors, or all of the above?
I don't have a clue who has access to what parts of the database. I assume the worst, because the worst has been proven already in many other cases.

>Why are you using those services?
Because it's nearly impossible to maintain relationships with friends and family without them, unfortunately. This is why I'm constantly shilling things like Tox.

>Quite simply: If you're concerned with 4chan keeping data on you, don't use 4chan.
Or I could just, you know, use a proxy.

One reason to think that 4chan may be safe is that it's already visited by enough intelligence community's.

There's too much value in its usefulness to the 'deep state' already then to get rid of it.

That being said, I think an alternative if it ever just disappears one day is a good idea.

>>139084429
t. Mexican

>>139084724
Fallacy

>>139091327

> It will survive and we will survive until the Heat Death of the Universe and beyond.

That is the only winning move.

>>139095056
>classical liberalism
has no place in their order. You'll hang after the stormfags do.

>>139095056
this is censorship and it is going to affect everyone and not just stormfags

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>>139085385
Honeypot. There is no right wing facebook because the entire concept is founded in left-think you fucking retard.

>>139095056
Liberalism has no tolerance for outside thinking at all. You will hang with the rest of us. We're all traitors to the "idea".

>>139086388
Downloaded, this better be good.

>>139083623
the word your looking for is lebensraum

Stormfront is now downed.

>>139082855
Is Jihadwatch.org safe?

Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller?

>>139085619
4chan has 27 million last time I checked
/pol/ I don't know, it's probably 6 million

>/pol/ is next

I fucking hope so. All you faggots do is talk shit about LARPers while posting on a LARP image board where you pretend that you're going to "like, totally gas the Jews and reclaim our nations one of these days." This place has become a fucking diversion.

>I can't make long ranting videos about how obviously stupid SJWs are. What about all of my videos that function as 2-hour long jerk off session to an audience that already agrees with me!? How are we going to combat the Jews NOW??

>>139082855
We will not be free to use Internet until we gain sovereignty online.
We have to make our own browser, our own internet search engine, our own messaging app, etc.
We can fund it through crowdfunding.
Our time is now. The siege narrows and sooner than we think we will be totally silenced.

>>139084913
Rather SS

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>>139084429
>Eventually, you stop being a racist after you get a life.

nope.