Genuinely looking for answers after some deep contemplation:

>>139080794
"Woman is the eternal irony of the community."
All you need to know.

>>139080794
No. In fact they used to be wholesome, until their natural pull to popular culture drove them to degeneracy, look at kim kardashian.

>>139080794
those are some ugly thots

>>139082121
Three of them are pretty hot. But definitely sluts, which brings down their value.

They are herd followers. If it's trendy to act like a ho, they will act li,e a ho.

>>139082277
look at the hip-to-thigh ratio man
these women suck

Women are mindless conformists. If the culture is degenerate, then they will be degenerate.

>>139082390
>>139082518
These

>>139080794
yes retard think about it

they have a clock ticking away inside of them screaming at them "WE MUST CARRY THE HUMAN RACE FORWARD, FIND SOME SPERM BEFORE THE EGGS GO BAD!!!!!!!!!!"

their biology is what it is...

>>139082277
>But definitely sluts, which brings down their value.

only in your gay limp dicked world it does

>>139082471
Yeah, I don't know what;s up with that. I was going mostly by face, figuring they're young and that would sort itself.

>>139080794
>all skinnyfat
into the trash

Elles essaye toujours de ce comparée a des "TOP MODÈLE" et quand elles voie pas de concluant elle perde confiance et tombe etre movaise compagnes!

>>139080794
people are naturally degenerate

>>139082518
Seriously WTF happened to strict conservative women?
My mother was a literally "no fun allowed" rigorous women like most women in the 80'-90's
I feel pity for the children of the scumbags in OPs pic.

>>139080794

Women are not naturally anything but led by men. If men lead them well, they do well. If men lead them astray, they go astray. If men don't lead them at all, they let themselves be led by other women, with disastrous results.

Women aren't naturally degenerate for the reason that their basic biological programming wants them to be constructive, i.e. to be a wife and a mother.

>>139082471

No bunda, no diamond

>>139083317
>Seriously WTF happened to strict conservative women?
That shit's boring and nobody actually likes it except depressed NEETs.

>>139082390
the La-li-lu-le-lo?

>>139083642
go back to watching porn and stuffing your face full of hormones nigger

>>139080794
I wonder if those girls were degenerate enough to lez out with each other in a big sweaty pile later?
truly horrifying to think about such degeneracy.

Women are simply as degenerate as their father allows them to be

>>139080794
They naturally take in cum, be dominatef and suck dick
So Yes

Yes. "Good" women are women who are raised in a society that doesn't leave female nature unchecked and left to fester out of control.

>>139083642

it's the opposite. conservative women are better for the same reason trophies are awarded to people who WIN at sports, not just handed out freely to anyone who wants one. maybe party sluts are interesting to 13 year olds who never got their dick wet before?

>>139083827
See what I mean? Depressed NEET. Faggot, idiot, wastoid. Nobody likes you fucks.

>>139084284
enjoy your distopia nigger

>>139080794
First don't do chivalry, that is the only thing that I am 100% sure is pure cuck behavior.
Second just wait for the sex robots and artificial wombs no need to waste shitloads of money on women who age get fat and nag.

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>>139083546
kek, can't deny it, i'm brazilian to the core

>>139080794
U > T > (left)S > S > L

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>>139084722
>just wait for sex bots goyim, we wouldnt want you to further the existence of your people now would we?

>>139080794
they're animals and have to be trained and kept on a short leash

>>139084773

Now I've got that fucking Stones song "Angie" in my head, thanks a lot

>>139084773
that family is fucked

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>>139084526
>enjoy your distopia nigger
I will. I am a pirate after all. Chaos and disorder are my cup of tea. I stand to make out like a bandit.

>>139084773
i would bang the living shit out of that and I'd make her cervix pop with a good deep dicking and she would make me a sammich

>>139085270
why do you think i was calling you a nigger?

Japanese women arent

>>139085354
you could actually do that, IIRC she's like 5'3.
if latinas were taller there wouldn't be any downside mixing with them tbqh

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>>139085537
Because you're butthurt.

>>139085667
pirates = niggers
same fuckin thing

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>>139085845
Only faggots obey the law.
Niggers just get caught. Because they're stupid.

>>139080794
>I'm opening my mind up to this reality against the chivalry that was instilled into me as a child.
I am not a scientist or a fucking educated person by any means at all however chivarly is not the way to get women especially during their peak (late teens early 20's).

Being a chivarlous gentleman is not how you get laid. Being a gentleman gets you put on the backburner (what is called the friendzone) till the woman is older and now needs to settle down after having their fun.

Women go for and fuck asshole men in their peak then settle down with the betas as it is even shown that women go for the dark triad when it comes to fucking men.

That alone should show you something whether it be my experience or the thousands of other assholes like me.

>>139085969
so youre a nigger?

The Pill was invented

/thread

>>139080794
Women are a reflection of their authority. When men put women on a pedestal in the western world during the Victorian era. They simply became what the men in their life desired. In the modern era, the authority of women is government and media. So they become consumers who obey the egalitarianism ideology government instructs them to follow in state run schools. Women are not capable of guiding themselves, they will always lead to ruin. They do not hold their own ideas, beliefs, values. They will always be a reflection of their authority in life. In a healthy society this authority is her father, then her husband. Women serve to reinforce values, you see them reinforcing poor ones currently because our society is rotting.

>>139084858
L is the only bangable one imho

couldn't even rate the others, they'd fall around 2-4s and the L would be like an 7-8

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>>139086069
If you want. I don't care.
Only idiots get hung up on names and petty insults.

Real men do meth, jerk it to loli porn, and run stop signs.

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>>139086618
Geo flags are retarded.

>>139080794
>>139086418

But otherwise a woman can be anything you want them to be. The problem men have with women is that they do not even know what they want out of life. Women are eternal supporters, if you don't have anything they can support you with, they will be confused, lost, unhappy. Women have three primary lens they view the people in their life through which determines how they generally interact with them.
1. Authority (Chad is my everything)
2. Family (Stacy is totally my BFF)
3. Children (aw, I'm sorry that happened to you anon, let me give you a hug)

If you want a woman, you need to have ambition and what you'll get out of life. Many men confuse confidence for ambition. Know what you want out of life, start pursuing it, then when you find a woman you want, put her to work in supporting you towards your goal.

If you want to fix the women of a society OP, fix the men, help them follow their dreams/goals, help them to know that their traditional role is to lead/guide.

>>139086829
>If you want to fix the women of a society OP, fix the men, help them follow their dreams/goals, help them to know that their traditional role is to lead/guide.
I am following my goals in dreams however my goals and dreams are not marry and have a family and similar bullshit like that but my own personal mission in life.

Also you have to enable the society which would let men legally control women again unlike now if men tried to control women they would be thrown in prison for some form of abuse.

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>>139080794
Yes

>>139080794
No, like men they can be influenced by hedonism, albeit to differing degrees. They also respond differently to emotions and stimulus, to a greater or lesser degree compared to men. Something people need to remember is that we're both human, our past social interactions, evolutionary responsibilities, and upbringings however is what dictates our actions in the present.

>>139080794
Result of feminism and laws that allow skanks to get money for being sluts whores and getting pregnant. Take away child support and they will stop this.

>>139083898

Huh, tricky proxy.

in general, yes, but men can be as well if they have no discipline or morals. it's up to a man to instill these into women/kids. women are there for the other things. women generally are clueless as to what they are doing, will do, or want to do. they need to follow the group mind to know. this is often why women do what you see in the pic (if other women do it, it's ok), despite what men think (that they look like sluts/prostitutes and makes us think even less of them).

every single time women have been given power in history it turns out the same. every. single. time. there have been very very few successful matriarchies for a reason.

>>139084773
Did she get a breast reduction, or something? I'd still commit war crimes for her.

>>139087156
>Not marry and have a family
>Continuing my blood line is not a goal of mine

Then you're a genetic dead end and probably shouldn't be to concerned about women in the first place.

>Enable the society which would let men
>Society that would let men
>Let men
Men are society, women cannot guide themselves, a company, much less a country. They cannot handle stress or pressure. If you want to fix society and restore a proper patriarchy, it starts with convincing the men who do rule things to take women off the pedestal and return them to their place as supporters of men, to properly guide them in doing so. Nothing is going to change as long as men have this misguided view of women having power over them.

>Unlike now if men tried to control women they would be thrown in prison for some form of abuse
Sure if you beat her, telling a woman to do x is not illegal as far as I'm aware as long as x itself is not illegal.

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>>139086031
Truth. Nice guys finish last is a reality. Bitches wanna be used by assholes, at their core they love being degraded and kept in their place. An asshole with game and looks can keep fucking 18 year olds into his 40s easy.

Women start going downhill at 30, their looks are fading fast, their eggs are dying, so they have to start attaching themselves to betas who won't cheat on them or leave them...because they are chivalrous good boys.

>>139087397
>Something people need to remember is that we're both human, our past social interactions, evolutionary responsibilities, and upbringings however is what dictates our actions in the present.
False. Women are not like men, if a father raises his daughter to be traditional and takes the role of authority while instructing her to do so, she will. If she leaves his sphere of influence and gains a new authority who tells her to be a whore, she will. Women do not hold values, they do not tend to reflect on past events and learn from them. They are not analytical unless it's necesary skill to please their authority in which it will happen within that context. As long as you and other men like you are under the false assumption of sameness you will not be happy or find yourself having positive interactions with women.

>>139087458
>Feminism
Not true. It was pure capitalists and other political movements which guided women into starting feminism in the first place and this goes back to the 18th century (in relation to modern age it goes back through all human history technically) Some wanted women to serve as voting pawn, others to flood the labor force to reduce cost. Women did not one day decide they wanted to be 'free of men' Women do not have their own unique ideas and thoughts, they have ideas and thoughts within the influence of their authority

>>139080934
What a sad day in age. Mankind is still primitive, and yet they believe thy rule the Universe. This is a mockery to our existence as well as every lgbt cunt that breathes. The evolution of intelligence and progress is going backwards, degrading and destroying itself. I dont blame kikes, niggers, white trash or the garbage pale kids of india and asian countries. I blame every individual for being rotten to an apple core. No one deserves to live. It's a gift to feel pleasure and a trivial pursuit for pain. Enjoy your time here, it doesn't last long.

>>139087737
Women of our era became whores because the men and media in their life told them that's what they wanted. In the 60s-80s women who didn't put out where looked down upon, they where 'prudes' now women put out all the time and they're 'whores'. Women of any society are a reflection of their men/authority

>>139080794
I finished highschool recently and I know for a fact that every girl in my year is not a virgin.

This alone should be proof.

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>>139088311
What we're seeing is what happens when the natural laws are not followed. Every single civilization in history goes through these kinds of things. When they follow the laws, they become great, when they don't, they fall. They fall to a previous stage of societal development and as time goes on they see if they can climb up once more, perhaps longer this time. There is absolutely nothing unique about the situation of the current state of society. It has happened many times. Take comfort in the fact that all of this is part of a cycle fueled by the shortsightedness of man, rather then some unique end of times scenario

Our generation is left with the task of trying to form a pile of mud into a "snow woman."
I would say looking for women should be secondary for everyone here. What you need to do is form a large peer group of men on the same page.
So when you get the gf she is brought into this society you have created where none of the men take any shit from women and all of them encourage femininity and tradition.
Together you will be able to condition your gfs/wives to be traditional and worthwhile.

Or at least I think this is much more viable than just being a loner anon that tries to have the authority of a whole community on his own when all the media is telling his gf to be a whore.

>>139088518
18 here
probably have had multiple sexual partners also

>>139085617
i could do it if she was 6'3. my old man is a gambling addict and i didnt have toys to play with growing up.

>>139088666
>What you need to do is form a large peer group of men on the same page.
>and all of them encourage femininity and tradition.
>Together you will be able to condition your gfs/wives to be traditional and worthwhile.
Yes Individually all of us need to continually strive for personal development in all things we're able. Form groups with the intention of forming communities, encourage traditional values which abide by natural laws

>>139088574
> Take comfort in the fact that all of this is part of a cycle

And we drew the short straw by being born during the shit part of the cycle

>>139088749
>Not fucking only virgins or woman that have only had sex with you

This is bordering on degeneracy anon

>>139085969
context?

>>139080794
women are inferior beings 17% less brain mass, emotionally driven, etc. what do ytou expect_ we neeed a true patriarchy(not even islam is a patriarchy, also they are sand niggers) tofix the world and keep them in check

>>139087664
>Then you're a genetic dead end and probably shouldn't be to concerned about women in the first place.
I might have a kid however if i do i won't take care of it and i will only be around thanksgiving and Christmas
>Men are society, women cannot guide themselves
However other men in society will bust down your door and throw you in the back of the paddywagon if the woman says you beat her or raped her so that is how we cannot fix society as other men will throw us in prison.
>men who do rule things to take women off the pedestal and return them to their place as supporters of men
Supporters of men is cuck language as men are clearly the better ones in any relationship. The thing about marriage is that the man trades resources so she can have his kids and fuck her and that all it is about.

Not her supporting the man but rather her trading her resource for his resource.
>Nothing is going to change as long as men have this misguided view of women having power over them.
Women only have power because of white knight male enforcement of it. Women are the ones who can call the cops on you for beating her and have men with guns throw you in prison.
>Sure if you beat her, telling a woman to do x is not illegal as far as I'm aware as long as x itself is not illegal.
It is not illegal but there is no legal obligation for her to do jackshit in marriage. If tell your bitch wife to do something or get the fuck out you can still get divorce raped and ruined because of of it because the courts don't give a fuck about you and unless you have the power to legally punish your wife (aka beat her) you have no power over her as she will just call the popo to drag your ass away.

>>139088972
meant that most the women in my school have had multiple sexual partners
i would only marry and fuck women who have only fucked me

>>139088944
Individualism is not what I'm talking about at all. I'm not saying you should not do that but that is entirely beside the point I'm making and may hurt it.

If you had a society of men that were all blue collar shit-kicking slobs but you worked together to control your women: I believe that society would have longer, more stable marriages than a bunch of professional men focused on their individual worth.

>>139088972
>we drew the short straw by being born during the shit part of the cycle
Perhaps, I think it's more exciting this way personally. We will be tasked with creating a whole new society/world from scratch.Think of the housing bubble burst coming up for example. It will likely start when all the boomers start dying off since they're largely the only ones still buying. Houses which currently go for a million could be knocked down to more realistic prices for people in generation y.

Think about who the new aristocrats / leaders /pillars of the community will be for generation y. To be above the rest all you have to do is have zero debt, some real world skills, and ambition. Every industry is available to start businesses in, before long real estate /renters will be open too.

Things look good for those who will rebuild /start the cycle over.

>>139088666
Checked

They fuck up their own genes. Slutty women attract any sort of man. Usually end up with fuck heads because they don't know their head from their own assholes, don't wear condoms, impregnate, then do a terrible job being fathers.

A man of value will pick a woman who does not spread her legs, mainly because so the man can trust the kids to be his (instinct). But you also need a great mother figure. Greatest man have had even greater mothers raising them. Kids are raised by their mothers and supported by their fathers. Be a good dad, but prior to that, pick a good mom-to-be. The more you can achieve father figure status before being one, the better choices you'll have, but amongst those will be wolves too. Tread lightly. Your entire worth depends on it.

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>>139087852
Did you not understand what I typed or did you not think about what I said?
>Women are not like men
>>139087397
>respond differently to emotions and stimulus
>upbringings however is what dictates our actions in the present

Perhaps I should've added a strong social system and a non degenerate society as well? I agree that to a far greater degree, women will not be the sweet little girl their fathers raised if the society they are apart of is sick.

Past social interactions, biology, and upbringing have different levels of influence on men and women. I never claimed sameness nor equality, not once. To be human is not to be equal to the man next to you, we do comprise one species though, do we not?

>>139087737
>Bitches wanna be used by assholes
Alot more then just being used but being used is part of it. Women love the excitement of the crazy asshole as who knows what the fuck we will do next?

You will never predict my behavior and part of that is a turn on for women because at any time i can start shit or do something to her if i want to if you get me pissed off who knows what the fuck i might do as i might break windows, cut myself, attack others, attack the woman i am with. damage property etc.

I am a fucking animal and i pretty state to any woman i am not a good guy, i ain't a gentleman if you care about safety you should not date me or deal with me but even then they keep on coming.

They still wanna know what is in my head or contact me.
>Women start going downhill at 30
Women start going downhill at 25.

>>139089312
All good anon

>>139089338
By the time society starts to get rebuilt for the better, our generation is going to be crusty and old. You forget that society still has to collapse entirely, then go through a period of economic and humanitarian woe, then extremely gradually start building up again.

That's going to take years.

>>139089473
>look at the seat
>it has brown fucking smears all over it

>>139089473
FFFFFFF NEED MORE

>>139089779
>Women start going downhill at 25
Women start going downhill at 21.

>>139089917
>Women start going downhill at 21.
25 Is my personal limit and that is when the wall really begins taking place but i can see how at 21 they go down hill.

>Even the possibility of having offspring is coupled with the understanding of not raising it yourself
Like I said, genetic dead end. With that approach in mind even if you reproduce your child will probably kill themselves anyway without a healthy father figure.

>As other men will throw us in prison
Thus why I said fixing society can only be done by fixing the men of it

>Having your woman be your eternal supporter in everything you aim to do is cuck language
What?

>Men are clearly the better ones in any relationship
The male-female dynamic is much like a man and his dog. Your dog will only turn out as good as you train it. Sure you can say you're better then the dog, but who cares?

>The thing about marriage
Historically marriage was a purchase, you gave items/resources to her father and he gave you his daughter to be yours. It is also viewed as a joining of families, but really it boiled down to purchasing a man's daughter. Some marriage ceremonies still have the 'giving away' part for symbolic reasons.

Modern marriage is
1. Ceremony with little to no actual meaning/value
2. A permit from the government acknowledging the joining

Both the original purpose and meaning of marriage is largely gone. I don't care for it and don't encourage others to pursue it outside a ceremony which has the potential to still be a joining of the families bit and can be enjoyable.

>Her trading her resources
Women have no resources, even their womb is not a resource. They cannot raise offspring on their own anymore they can lead/do anything else on their own. Once you have them well trained, it's quite hands off though. No long term micromanagement needed.

Women are the eternal supporters of men because without men they would perish.

>>139089857
It's paint.

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>>139088975
ATF coming to take a /k/ommando's guns

>>139089268
>>139090082

>Women only have power because of white knights
Women don't have power, the white knights do. The dragon controls the princess until the knight saves her, and then it's a transfer of possession from dragon to knight. The princess has no control over it or the knight.

>>139089473
shooped

>>139080794

Every religion under the sun says "Yes"
All our actual traditions (long since forgotten - like fathers getting final say on marriage) also say "Yes"

>>139087642
Like tons of women, they use push-up bras, or push-up clothing that shoves their tits up to their throats. Tits are very flexible. When a woman has cleavage that both tits touch each other, or look big in the upper area, they are push-up tits. Women who do this end up with nasty flat sagging tits

>>139086534
Im going by bodies and L is fat.

>>139089326
Individualism and collectivism are two approaches to the same thing. There is quite a lot of overlap, for example the first hierarchy is a family, with the man at the top. The success of the whole (family) depends upon the merit of the man (individual) have you heard of complex systems theory? It's a pretty good idea of how societies and the individuals within them work.

>Blue collar vs professional
A society will have both, hierarchy is expanded from one family to many. With each family taking a place on the ladder. But every family is still headed by individuals. In order to further the collective (whole) you must ensure the individual does well.

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>>139080794

Currently we also have no future.

Co-incidence?

>>139090102
its paint alright
her anus is the brush and the seat is the canvas

>>139090082
>Like I said, genetic dead end. With that approach in mind even if you reproduce your child will probably kill themselves anyway without a healthy father figure.
If they kill themselves they could have a kid before their suicide but even not all kids raised by single mothers go on to kill themselves.

Technically speaking if i just knock some woman up and she gives birth then i am not a genetic dead end as my DNA has passed on.
>Women have no resources, even their womb is not a resource
The ideal of marriage is that by marrying women give up the rights of their womb to their husband along with their cunt, tits and asshole however this was in the old era when men had rights over women.

I do not disagree with much you are saying here but marriage in the past was based on it.

Also for the last point women would just kill each other without men stopping it.

>>139090194
>Women don't have power, the white knights do
The white knights enable the women to have power via proxy. Of course the women cannot do jackshit however if they call the white knights then they will come to arrest you and by that women have power however it is only proxy power that can be taken away at any time by our whim.

>>139090082
I would argue that concept of romance and love has been largely forgotten nowadays.

>Porn turns human intimacy into hedonistic fantasy
>Commercial entertainment grinds out the same trivialized love stories every year but with more degeneracy/social justice
>Young people are no longer taught the benefits and value of marriage and self-control
>Nor are they regulated anymore as they are allowed to engage in any futile relationship they want
>Men are being demonized and women are being victimized, creating unnatural animosity between the genders
>The consequences of a bad decision can be easily fixed with abortions, birth control, or various forms of social pressure

>>139089747
>We do compromise one species though, do we not?
Sure, but even in the animal kingdom, the extent of sameness between genders of the same species can vary by quite a lot. If you raise your son properly, but he then goes off to be exposed to other influences. He can still turn out alright, he can find his way, question, reflect, build himself up. A daughter does not and cannot, the moment her father is stripped from the role of authority is the moment whoever takes his place will change her. If her authority is far left man, she will be far left, if he for whatever reason decides he's far right the next week. She will be far right, no attachment to the values she had before because she cannot hold her own values, only reflect. Men and women differ in a very large way

>>139090306
>like fathers getting final say on marriage

I wish that would come back.

>>139080794
>Implying "chivalry" was ever about kissing the ass of women.
This was mocked even during the Middle Ages (Miller's tale, anyone?)

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>>139080794
>1 post by this ID

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>>139080794
>Are women naturally degenerate?
Nah, but you are biologically and necessary a virgin in perpetuity for all of time, OP. Honestly, it really does suck to be OP sometimes. You might want to consider just cutting your balls off so you don't have to wank and get angry anymore.

Women are easily shaped. If you aren't shaping them, somebody else will.

>>139089817
>By the time society starts to get rebuilt for the better, our generation is going to be crusty and old
Not necessarily, we have the advantage this time around of having access to all of human history and the accumulation of the knowledge that brings. Even if society falls, if even one library survives we can rebuild everything instead of having to go through trial and error to figure it out ourselves. The technology and rebuilding is the easy part, the difficult hard is the people component, getting people who follow natural laws, and ensure their offspring do the same.

>Society still has to collapse entirely
Also not necessarily, as I said earlier, a collapse is a return to a previous level of societal development. Loosely the stages being
Individual->Family(pack)->tribe (few families-> City->City state->mult-city state->Regional power->Continental power->Multi-continental power (roman empire, three continents and the furthest stage that our historical records show) their 'collapse' was the earlier regional/continental stage. Roman empire fell, but it fell into the Holy Roman empire (west) and Byzantine empire (east) societal collapse will look more like balkzaniation.

With each state falling down to whatever stage is stable enough to start over from.

>period of economic and humanitarian woe
Both are meaningless, what matters is resources. That's the whole value of currency/economy anyway, resources exchange/acquisition power. Humanitarian woe is meaningless too, if we know what community we'll be in during balkzaniation, we can work on assisting other communities for rebuilding.

>extremely gradually
With all the knowledge of how we built everything that may of been destroyed

>That's going to take years
Years yes, but probably not decades or centuries. We will still live long enough to enjoy the fruits of our labor (in a non hedonistic way as that would just cause collapse again anyway)

>>139080794
It's the Americans that are degenerate not woman in particular. You can go fuck yourself my friendly friend.

>>139091134
>ask a legit question about women
>HAHA LOOK AT VIRGIN HAHA

Wow, you sure showed him. Let me guess, you get laid all the time and never had any issues with women.

>>139080794
>do people like to fuck

No, anon. Those people are just weird.

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>>139091308
>It's the Americans
Right..

>>139091481
I got blown the first day I was in the UK by a slag because I had a southern accent.

I am in full support of British slags.

>>139091223
You know, I'm going to go against my usual line of thought and trust what you said because it does make sense and you seem to know more about it than me, but I will never be surprised if/when everything gets worse before our generation becomes irrelevant.

>>139090508
>If they kill themselves they could have a kid before their suicide
Surely you're aware of things such as 'cycles of poverty/broken homes' and exactly what kind of quality of life if they survive long enough to pass on their genes your descendants would be facing?

>then i am not a genetic dead end as my DNA has passed on
By knowingly creating a poor environment for your progeny, one that will likely result in it's inability to pass on it's genes, you are indirectly. But I honestly get the impression that isn't what you actually want to do, just what you feel you'd be forced to do in our current state of society.

>When men had rights over women
Men still have rights over women, instead of deciding to have a healthy society. We instead pretend women are capable of independence and ignore the inconsistency. Our current society is like what I imagine a bunch of femdem fetishes would take the form of. We're fully in power, we call the shots, and women are still powerless. But we want to pretend otherwise for whatever reason to continue our own suffering.

>Women would just kill each other
Women rarely resort to violence in general, unless they've been trained to do so in specific circumstances. Most of the women who hit men these days where raised by fathers who empathized 'self defense' for example. Without understanding the nature of women and their inability to properly asses circumstances.

>>139091634
You touched dicks with a Muslims by proxy. She's clearly that kind of xenophile.

>>139090592
>It can be taken away at any time by our whim
Yes exactly, which is why any effort to 'fix' women is pointless and all efforts should be focused on bringing men back to terms with the way of things

>>139091726
Women are disposable sex objects, I don't really care. /pol/ puts the pussy on the pedestal more than any other white-knighting group of people I've ever seen.

Sometimes you just need your dick sucked.

>>139090677
No doubt we are a sexually dimorphic species. It was more of an afterthought. My original point was to remind people that women don't act without rhyme or reason. I don't think women are naturally degenerate however. Women seek strong men, confident leaders. Men that are driven with some degree of purpose and maintain some self respect will be quite successful. And women, as you said, largely bend to the beliefs of the strongest leader. My point is that they are not naturally predisposed to act like sluts, it depends on how they are influenced by outside forces, whereas men tend to be far more self reliant. Do you disagree?

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>>139080794
Look you fucking faggots:

If you haven't already figured it out, threads like these are meant to demoralize and black-pill you on procreating. You'll recognize these in the form of "women are sluts", "check out these women", or the ever-present "you mad white boi" type bullshit. It's obviously and clearly part of (((their))) agenda. Propegate a feeling of disillusion and futility among the white male population. Make you feel inferior, like you should even try, just give up. Here's the hard fucking truth for you idiots in a non-gay non-sperglord way:

You're worth it. Every white male is worth it. Set goals for yourself. Short-term, mid-term, and long-term. Cut off the fucking TV and set down your iPod because they're constantly pumping in info that (((they))) want you to hear. They want you to be complacent. Stop jacking off. Stop betraying your heritage, culture, and values for a small bit of instant gratification. The world might seem bleek but you have the power, you, to control your destiny and the future of our people. Stop buying into their bullshit. Go outside. Run. Jog. Cardio. Lift, even if it starts off small at first. Build your body. Build your kingdom. Set physical and financial goals for yourself. Set social goals for yourself both short and long-term. Find a mate. Raise your children with the values that you deem important. Protect your children at all costs.

That's the final redpill. You're welcome.

>>139091924
well said

>>139090603
>Romance and love
Don't misunderstand, I do not advocate for such things. Romanticism was an ideology born out of egalitarianism during the age of enlightenment. It was born out of the longing of man who wanted to view women as an 'equal'. Women do not have or understand what we would view as 'love' their 'love' is more akin to attachment/purpose.

>Porn turns human intimacy into hedonistic fantasy
Yes, it also is much like a drug. The visual stimulation causes pleasure itself. Long term porn viewing (even without masturbation element) can lead to men having trouble with long term planning/delayed gratification.

This, just as the rest of the problems you mention can all be dealt with by encouraging better individuals. If you become the authority in a woman's life, all the propaganda she's been fed her entire life can go away in a short time when shadows your views. Helping men to return to reality is the only real difficult part of fixing society.

Another issue of the western world is that democracy doesn't work and it never will. Hierarchy is one of the natural laws we've defied in so many ways. But the families of power fighting for control still exist at the top, as do aristocrats. Our aristocrats are mindless idiots though (celebrities, athletes) many people will change their views if famous people started being traditional and making that popular

>>139091724
>exactly what kind of quality of life if they survive long enough to pass on their genes your descendants would be facing?
My great grandfather was able to survive the Spanish revolution even thou his parents were both killed, My grandfather survived his father dying at 11 and living basically with a cuck step father, My father survived his father dying while young as well and i survived a shitty childhood alongside poverty

If my kids kill themselves then they deserve it as they killed themselves before they completed their personal missions in life.
>But I honestly get the impression that isn't what you actually want to do, just what you feel you'd be forced to do in our current state of society.
I want to have 1 to 2 sons and that is it and if i raise them id prefer they not be little kids anymore.
>Men still have rights over women
Gimme a list of rights which we still have over women.
>Women rarely resort to violence in general,
Women are very violent among themselves however they cannot be violent among men as men can kill them on a whim.
>

>>139090980
That's pretty interesting, any idea what her condition is called or how she's surviving, if any of that is make up?

>>139091181
Basically this

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>looking for answers
>I do this by posting copypasta and not replying

You faggots are dumber than cattle. At least you have to put a ring in a bull's nose to lead him. You dumb faggots follow anything. This is an obvious slide thread with no valid conversation.
Go to sleep you dumbfucks.

>>139091662
>I will never be surprised if/when everything gets worse before our generation becomes irrelevant
I won't either, but I try to be a realist. If we believe our efforts will not make a difference, and as a result if that belief we don't try. We'll never know if it was just a matter of self fulfilled prophecy or not. I figure we're going down this road anyway, the time and energy is going to be spent immersed in it anyway, we might as well try to better ourselves and the whole for the chance it does re-create the society we know needs to come into existence for order to once again be established.

>>139090418
what a worthless creature

>>139090980
mmmmmmmmmmmkaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyy.

>>139092566
Reading your replies is very interesting.

poopoo

>>139090408
I'm just saying what you are saying is a moot point in reply to my idea.
There are women that are loyal to unemployed junkies and there are women cheating on their salaryman corporate good goy husbands.
My idea was about constructing a small society of friends that will impose its values on your woman so that she conforms to that rather than what (((outside forces))) tell her.

I don't think you having personal success will give you as much authority to condition a woman as you might think. You're never going to have as much authority by yourself as an entire culture going against you. You need to make a culture and put her in it.

>>139091894
>My original point was to remind people that women don't act without rhyme or reason
Yes and no, their reason is not their own, but it is reason yes.

>I don't think women are naturally degenerate however.
Oh I agree, women are mostly blank slates, they will be whatever you shape them into. If you want them to be a whore, they'll be a whore. If you want them to be traditional, they will be. If you want them to input data for your genetic experiments into the excel spread sheet, they will. Women are mostly capable of anything, any role, but within the context of supporting their authority. They'll be happy when they're helping further their authorities wishes, very eager to please.

I find that the reason we have so many disheartened/bitter men is that men are raised under the egalitarian ideology. Their way of realizing it's false, is only after being scorned. So the truth of the situation can be tinted through such a view.

>Women seek strong men, confident leaders
Yes and no, if they sought only such things of high social standing than peasants would never reproduce. But they do, women can be happy to be a peasant's wife, or a king's. As long as the man has ambition, and has use for her, she will follow/support

>Men that are driven with some degree of purpose and maintain some self respect will be quite successful.
Yes this I completely agree with

>Strongest leader
Hmm, not always either. A woman can hold attachment to her authority even in the event of her authorities death. There was a Bulgarian queen whose name escapes me now whose sole purpose after her husbands assassination was to burn / murder all who caused him harm. Despite them asserting themselves as 'stronger' by killing him. It's similar to how a dog might bond to a human so much so that after death they feel without purpose, just wait to die, visit the grave etc.

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>>139091382
>you get laid all the time and never had any issues with women.
Actually, I have no problem with women, which is why I'm not posting pics of attractive women accompanied by angry and accusatory questions. You, however, are almost certainly 12 years old.

>>139091894
>My point is that they are not naturally predisposed to act like sluts, it depends on how they are influenced by outside forces, whereas men tend to be far more self reliant
I agree but would change/clarify 'outside forces' to mean 'her authority'. In commonly known terms, if chad wants Stacy to be a certain way, and hundreds of betas swarm her trying to change her to their desired way, will she succumb to their influence or stay the way which chad desires? Will they only have success by becoming a competing chad and asserting themselves as her chad (authority)?

>>139084773
moar Angelina yesterday

>>139090980
Source?

>>139088518
>know for a fact
What are you, the hymen inspector?

>>139080794
no, you're just weak

>>139092297
>Family history
Can you say you and your fathers, their fathers, where better off for being raised under such circumstances? That it would be preferable to a healthy home environment? Don't you want something more for your bloodline?

>If I raise them I'd prefer they not be little kids anymore
Time goes by quickly when they're young, before you know it they'll be out of diapers and running around, asking you endless questions about the world.

>Gimmie a list of rights which we still have over women
>White knights decide they won't come to stacy's side anymore
>She's left to the mercy of any men who come her way
Any 'right' women have is directly tied to the desire for men to put her above them. When they stop doing that, any illusion of power or rights go with it.
>Women are very violent among themselves
Not so much violence as it is moral enforcement. If men where fence posts, women would be the boards which help provide another purpose by helping to bind them together. In a healthy society no man knows everything, so women learn what they can through their authority then fill the gaps in by asking other women (who've learned from their authority) Women are like data disperses. It's just currently the data they're exchanging/spreading and the values they're enforcing are harmful. Creating a better world starts with us embodying those better values and data.

>>139083317
>no fun allowed rigorous women
>80s-90s
I've got bad news for you nigger, my mum is exactly like how you describe yours, even the same era.
I'm tempted to believe my mum wasn't like that once upon a time, when she kept repeating to me since I was little that "college will mark the best years of your life".
No shit, for you women especially since after college your sexual value drops to rockbottom because you're not 18 anymore.

Women are masters of lies and deceit anon.

>>139092502
>slide thread
Could be yea
>No valid conversation
I disagree, if you think of the kind of already down people these threads attract. They can be a good source of discussion on serious issues even if the thread started out as bait

>>139092694
Thank you anon, I appreciate it

>>139092931
Come on, the most anyone on this board has ever done is gotten a slightly regretful handjob from one of the weirder girls back in their schooldays.

>>139093516
No, but sexual exploits aren't exactly closely guarded secrets at my old highschool - let alone the entire town.

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>>139092113
thanks anon

Conservative parenting doesn't necessarily mean strict.
For instance many mothers today are "strict" in that they don't let their kids wander the streets.
But those boys grow up into uncoordinated betas.
Free play and spending their time with other kids would have made them physically fit, socially skilled etc.
Those boys would have been more able to become young men that say "no" and they might have been telling young women they refuse to have anything to do with disgusting sluts.
Look at the primary boyfriend of any womyn that is into polyamory. He will have an incredible aura of cuck about him I guarantee it.

>>139092880
>My idea was about constructing a small society of friends that will impose its values on your woman so that she conforms to that
I don't disagree with your idea, but it should be mentioned that even in such a community hierarchy should be set up before hand. Some of the friends would be above the others, others would compete with one another for better positions. Encouraging self betterment/holding it as a core value of the community/friend group would ensure it wouldn't collapse among infighting within the first year. As each one would accept their place on the hierarchy that takes shape with that understanding going in

>I don't think you having personal success will five you as much authority to condition a woman as you might think
Depends upon what the success takes the form of, and what kind of /ambition/values the man has going in. Say for example you become very wealthy/successful, but your core values is tied to egalitarianism. Your women will constantly be conflicted because you are her authority, but you're instructing her to pretend she's equal to you. You're telling her to please you by pretending she's a male. It's bound for disaster for you personally

>You're never going to have as much authority by yourself as an entire culture going against you
If the culture going against you is an unarmed group of peasants and yours is control of an army of soldier robots then you will. History is filled with single families lead by single individuals having authority over much of the other levels of the social hierarchy. Even without killer robots

>You need to make a culture and put her in it
I don't disagree with this, but I disagree with the idea that you can't instruct her and keep her under your authority within a culture which tries to compete with you for influence over her too.

>>139092880
My point in arguing with you on this specific point is that it needs to be understood that it's not pointless/hopeless to try to build each of our own spheres to make the culture you're talking about.

The culture won't sprung over night, and it will be made real by individual efforts to go towards such communities - even as an overarching other culture is around us

>>139080794

In many ways, you cannot "blame" a female when it behaves in a naturally female way.

Females are biologically directed at reproduction. Females must alter their appearance to seem unique from others, and to increase sexual interest, without inciting sexual attack. They must also align with other females to gain a numeric advantage over a typically more powerful male, while also isolating from other females, to gain reproductive advantage.

Things change once reproduction has occurred, but is in the interest of the female to both have a stable environment for the offspring, as well as to have multiple offspring, preferably from more than one male, because sometimes males die.

Look at the photo. Its full of apparent contradictions. Each individual female must present itself as unique without appearing too dissimilar from its peers. They must present secondary sexual chacteristics to signal that they are female, and not male, but they must avoid being too far beyond their average, within the group presented. They are both in competition with each other, without being in competition with each other. They must draw a distinction between being ostracised for being too different, and being too "slutty" to be one in the same group -- a group that offers some protection from male aggression.

>>139082471
i think they're just young (18-20?) and haven't hit that final growth spurt of boobs/hips ratio

>>139094338
There would definitely be hierarchy in the community it's a great point to bring up because that could be dangerous in that if you accidentally let a bunch of "white knights" in and they became the leaders - the whole thing will be destroyed.

I'm sure at least a couple of people reading this post had a girl enter their male circle of friends at some point and everything changed for the worse.

>>139084773
gross;
too masculine and tribal

>>139084858
L is the best;
the others, facially, are rather masculine;
you are probably hispanic

>>139092927
>Women seek strong men, confident leaders
>peasants would never reproduce

Yes agreed, relevant to their social standing of course, women will find a suitable partner that meets their own standards. Standards which they are probably unaware of. This ties in well to your response on the individual versus the collective, each family has their own place, it is by no means an equal playing field.

>their reason is not their own, but it is reason yes.
A woman does have standards, whether she realizes them or not. Are you saying that her "reason" is more a result of social and cultural values than it is her own?

>>139093054
I am still keeping in line with OP's main question, and I'm not entirely sure of your question. By outside forces I meant the society she is apart of, feminism, social media, misguided political figures and "artists" all negative for example. To the later part, again I'm not sure if this is just rhetorical? But I would say that yes, they need to compete with Chad and offer something in the way of social or material wealth for her to want to switch partners. Women are largely social creatures more so than men, as in, they enjoy large amounts positive feedback from those around them and are wholly dependent on that feedback to determine their own beliefs.

>>139080794
I refuse to believe all woman are degenerate. I think it's only the case of OPs mom

>>139080794
In some degree, less than men tho

>>139094817
usually

>>139094597
I see it among far right/alt right communities too, the reactionary nature of this movement - whatever you want to call it. Is noticing a problem with our current situation, and reacting. But there doesn't seem to be much of an effort to replace the ideology with something else. We're all just waiting for it to collapse or wanting to take part in actively destroying it with no plans for what happens next.

Hammering out an ideology/core values will ensure any issues which may arise with hierarchy or differences of how to handle things 'white knights' can be dealt with, without destroying the entire movement and causing another collapse

>I'm sure at least a couple of people reading this post had a girl enter their male circle of friends at some point and everything changed for the worse.
Probably, if she entered the group without being tied to one of them or another man. She would be viewed as 'available' and competition would follow

>>139094597
I can relate, bitch entered our little chat server we have a little while back. It was funny, she preyed on the beta fags in the group and tried to convince them to buy her shit and send her nudes. Everyone hates her now and we all shit on and pity our friend who decided to take her as his internet girlfriend. So cucked he wants to buy plane tickets soon to see her.

>>139080794
5, 2, 4, 1, 3

Women are easily brainwashed to believe anything they are told...

Even in the Bible women were fucking easy to deceive and thus were instructed to be slaves to men (who only turned against God because they couldn't bear to see his partner die alone).

Female rights was a direct move against God who put them in low positions because they have no moral standing and are easily influenced by evil. You see this in full force today.

>>139094680
>Relevant to their own social standing
They hold no social standing, their father/authority does. A woman can go from peasant living conditions to royal in her life time because of it

>women will find a suitable partner that meets their own standards
Women don't have standards, a women is always a messenger, she never carries her own message, always that of another. Any standards she may claim to have are tied to a previous authority in her life. But because she doesn't have or is not capable of having her own values. She won't stick to them, it's why the role of a father in handling who receives his daughter is such an important one.

The entire concept we have of 'dating' is tied to the belief that men and women are the same. The entire idea of romance is tied to the idea that women have their own interests/beliefs.

>each family has their own place, it is by no means an equal playing field.
I agree, but that's why families pursue their own interest. Why individual self betterment is apart of the shared family/tribal self interest too. If parents worked for their families success, rather then their own personal enjoyment, our society would be a vastly different place. None of this 'out at 18 with nothing' nonsense. None of this 'send grandparents to rot in a home alone' nonsense. It is with help from the family that individual talents can shine through and it can advance from poverty to middle class, and perhaps nobility.

But each generation carries the risk of falling back down the ladder if they cease to view the long term success of their family.

>A woman does have standards
Any standards she reflects are not her own, but her previous/current authority you're trying to replace

>If this was just rhetorical
It was, open ended to try and illustrate what I was saying about her being tied to an authority even above influence. That the influence has to become her authority to have any effect on what views she reflects.

>>139080794
No. Women are hyper-social. It's really the men who glorify sluts and the white-knights who forgive them. 300 years ago, a woman would faint at the idea.

Women are literal succubus that feed on attention, if they don't get attention they shrivel and slowly die. They'd do anything for male attention so that's why they are the first degenerate. Stop treating them like actual people and start treating them like things (keeping in mind the above concept) and you will have all the women you want to fuck.

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Women are a cancer and artificial wombs are going to be the cure.

>>139094951
I will expand upon the last part of my reply with some real world examples. Earlier I mentioned that the authority of modern women has become government/media, government instructing women to reflect 'egalitarianism' media to be a consumer. A woman will defy any natural instincts she may have, it's why women become cat ladies in the first place, or go career. They where instructed by authority to do so. But media and government are not individuals, it's why she can reflect these views, but still be lost/confused and shifted away from it by individuals who replace them.

Think about the entire concept of public education, originally it was designed to get boys from childhood to work, in other words. To help them become providers. Women have no use becoming providers, they're not men. The only reason they're sent to public school is because of the false belief that women are the same as men.

It's why women generally never tend to take school seriously and just go by the whims of their male classmates/teachers.

>>139096194

oh, hey fatty

>>139096282
What's the point of defending women on an anonymous imageboard, anon?

Good night anons, good thread

>>139095705
>They hold no social standing, their father/authority does
This is all rather idealistic is it not? A Queen is a Queen, and has the authority of one. She is subservient to a King but not to any one man.

>The entire concept we have of 'dating' is tied to the belief that men and women are the same
I disagree, women have a degree of autonomy. Is dating not a test of a mans reliability and ability to sustain her and her offspring?

>Any standards she reflects are not her own
Perhaps, but a woman can recognize a valuable man identified by his ability to provide for others or for her. From what it sounds like, you see women as nearly lacking a conscience or ability to reason. Success is something that is quite constant in societies, and women are able to recognize it, which implies logic. And then what of the opinions of other women? Do they simply hold no value?

>>139096459
i just like abusing fat fucks like you, lol

you repulsive fat fuck

I think women have the potential to be great people who are worthy of being our equals. Problem is they, like every other group, form a sort of divided mob mentality. There is often two, maybe three options presented to them for these mentalities. Either their "traditional" or "feminist" or "non binary" and they fall into the habits of these groups. Men and women both conform to their surroundings to some degree, but the female groups promote standing together and coexistence at all costs, where the "manly" groups teach independence and morals. Women are taught to like these ideas, but almost no groups actually expect their members to live up to said ideas.

>>139097332
But I'm not fat, anon. Again, what's the point of this kind of virtue signalling here?

Men have become pathetic wretched weaklings (this includes /pol/ and /r9k/) and so women naturally also begin to degenerate. Societies, empires, etc are built by men. Women follow, women help, women serve. But to blame the degeneration of a society on women is ironic, because it is 100% the fault of men, the fault of men who blame women instead of themselves because they are the worst kind of ignorant cowards who cannot face their own incompetence. And when the women begin to act out in the presence of such men, and you question it? That is the exact equivalent of a parent who is surprised at their child who acts out, even when they never disciplined them to begin with.

>>139083317
Mine too. Although I can't say all women in the 80-90s were like her. Specially the ones that lived in cities.

>>139080794
It does seem evolutionary that they want to take seed from as many male suitors as possible. Our purpose is to procreate after all. Theres a reason we are drawn to sex, it's no coincidence.

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>>139087251
>tfw I am the back-up man.
These threads fuck with my head.

>>139080794
everyone has a way of coping with life. some people turn to sex because it makes them feel really good for a little while.

>>139080794
Haha, what kind of fucking question is that? I'll try and answer it tho.

To put it in simple terms, yes, if MEN aren't actively keeping women in check then yes, they will "degenerate". If they don't have a proper father figure, then yes they'll end up cum guzzling sluts.

Really it's not even 100 percent their fault, women aren't adult in their thinking, the "degeneracy" you see nowadays is more a symptom of a bigger problem which is men afraid to put their foot down. It's a 50/50 blame if anything.

>>139098178
Some idiots Whiteknight by default.

>>139100549
Kek. Enjoy used up pussy you beta.

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>>139080794

The Bane plane scene is about escaping the clutches of the matriarchy. That's why you hear ducks. Ducks are dumb as fuck, and follow the females everywhere.

no woman are not degenerate.

its more complex than that.
degeneracy is simply a result of authoritarian schooling system. for example in my country we have people dismissed veterans traveling to thailand and india to get fucked up on drugs just to "feel free again".
we created degeneracy by restricting freedom of movement, freedom of thought and freedom of speech. we also told our by our parents that the most important thing in life is stability and money, and in result of that we became degenerates.
to sum it all up, we were repressed, and we had no aspiration or identity. our identity is only made up of our looks and money and that's what counts. in the end teenagers get fucked up on drugs and have sex because we were stripped away of any meaning and the pressure to succeed is greater than ever, so degeneracy is simply a way to rebel against the hollow morals that our parents passed to us

>>139092359
Dunno how the christ she's alive, but the condition is necrotizing fasciitis. It's caused by a few different species of flesh-munching bacteria.

>>139080794
All people are naturally animalistic. Civilization and society is supposed to curb these behaviors, but the Electric Jew is a good propaganda tool.

Women are more susceptible than men because of their preference for emotions over reason.

>>139100158
men didn't become weak, we simply transformed into something else.
we let the government regulate our intimate relationships and options so men got weak, if men had more freedom to express themselves and be dominant we wouldn't have this "weakness" you are speaking about.
the government regulate pretty much everything you do because woman voted for that. every time there is a case of rape or pedophilia woman turn to the government for change instead of doing any community work.

How do i make myself more attractive to a girl?

I'm rich as shit already, what else should i do to make her primally attracted to me and like putty for me to manipulate?

I get what you're all saying about women needing a strong man to guide them and i'm happy to do that but i need to foster the attraction first, how do i get her lusting after me?

>>139080959
women have no definetibe form, they are the easiest target for kike propaganda

since men stopped being formative rule models for women, kikes stepped in and turned them all into whores

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MEN have higher IQ than women in average.
MEN are stronger than women in average.
MEN are more faithful than women.
MEN built civilizations.
MEN fight wars.
MEN are better at raising children than women.
MEN are more skillful then women.
MEN are more hardworking than women.
If world were to get rid of all the inventions of men we would be thrown back into the stone ages.
WHAT DID WOMEN DO ?

We had to invent a magical space wizard who'll torture you for eternity just to stop women from fucking chads and becoming single moms

>>139101651
also you can see this in every aspect of life
men solve problems on a domestic level
woman solve problems with more regulations

even my own mom is calling the city hall everytime there is garbage on the road, she rather spend weeks waiting for the city hall to clean up rather than do it herself

>>139080794

Women naturally shape themselves to fit the man they love, but now the government has replaced men for many of these women so they just break down.

What you want to do is find a non-degenerate 6/10 with a good personality that the Chads ignored, and polish her up to wife material. You'd be surprised how much you can shape a woman by encouraging behaviors you like and discouraging behaviors you don't, through simply talking honestly with her.

I found my girl, she was a arts college graduate without any real prospects at the time. She was kind of depressed, on some unnecessary amfetamine product some quack doctor from our NHS had told her to take. She was underweight because she didn't know how to cook and she didn't exercise so she was out of shape.

9 months later, she was eating well, had started learning how to cook, had started exercising, got a job she liked, dressed more traditionally but still quite sexy in a traditional summer dresses type of vibe. Picking up a girl broken down by the system and decades of lies, and giving her a new purpose and goals is the way you find a partner for life. The sex is amazing too, we're happily together and plan on getting married so we can have kids.

I'm not saying this to brag, I'm saying this because I was given this advice myself and I figured I had nothing to lose since I'm not interested in bar-sluts and other vapid waste products of a society ruined by Jews. I was shocked at how easily this could be achieved.

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Has to be repeated >>139080794

>>139089779
>women start going downhill at 25
I'll have to second this. Had a thing with a 24 year old girl in my second year of uni. She kept going on about how she was "too old for this shit". Got annoying after a while.

>>139080794
There are countless bad apples in both genders. You could ask the same question where males are implied.
These people are naturally degenerate, yes. A healthy mind can draw conclusions effortlessly from possible actions and real events. No matter of the people around you, no matter what they tell you, your instincts and your intelligence will shield you from becoming like them.
There is no excuse of giving up and becoming like them, no, it just means you're weak and you are naturally a degenerate too.

.t Man who was pushed into a degenerate group, drugheads, gays, neo commies from childhood and rejected every last one of it.

And the final verdict is that you can't change these people, it's coded inside them and there's no way to rewrite it like an application. Strangely enough though, the apple falls so far away from the tree sometimes you can't even tell if that tree is the origin, from both sides.

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>tfw I'd do half of the girls in that picture and no amount of propaganda is going to stop me

>>139101818
>How do i make myself more attractive to a girl?
>coming to 4chan for advice on women
lol even my advice would be sub-par at best.
Women don't care about your money, they don't care about how you dress - that is because they are emotional creatures. Start by saying whats on your mind, commit to those thoughts (don't doubt yourself) and don't be a deferential pussy to women, if she disagrees with your opinion say it anyway, don't ever censor yourself because of what a woman will think of you - that only shows she's in control of the conversation.

Once you do that you will find over time you will become more confident and comfortable in your skin. Don't be fearful of fucking up too, it's the only way you'll get better at talking to women.

My bullshit aside, I would just refer you to here since it provides much more competent advice than anyone here.
https://manhood101.com/

Their work is all available to the public to scrutinize if you're skeptical about its teachings
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNmwzc2acPxd0gFZzltbwYw

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>>139103646

Read these

>>139102162
THIS!

>>139087251
>tfw going to go on a date tonight at 23:00 with a married woman
She got married like, 4 months ago. Seriously, if a woman wants your dick/if she finds you attractive, there is no stoping her.

>>139080794
>Are women naturally degenerate?
no, women are naturally clueless
when women suck, it's the fault of good men

>>139103646
Source on that anime cutey

>>139080794
women started going downhill when men stopped being fathers

>>139101818
There you go, you either have 2 VERY long image posts from 4chan on advice from women that you can attempt to put into practice or 2 links that take you to a site dedicated to teaching men how to socialize (not just to women, both genders) from someone who's hand MANY relationships - You can sign up for a free "scholarship" and participate in lessons or if you're just curious, listen to one of his feminist debates or interviews with a woman, you'll be able to tell just how much this guy knows what he's talking about.

Just to put it into perspective, I'd take his advice over ANYONE, that's how much I value this dudes advice.

>>139083822
kekd n checked

>>139080794
Only after the influence of atheism. Good christian and muslim women don't suffer from degeneracy.

>>139101858
>MEN have higher IQ than women in average.
>MEN are stronger than women in average.
>MEN are more faithful than women.
>MEN built civilizations.
>MEN fight wars.
>MEN are better at raising children than women.
>MEN are more skillful then women.
>MEN are more hardworking than women.
>If world were to get rid of all the inventions of men we would be thrown back into the stone ages.
>WHAT DID WOMEN DO ?
Men did all those things to get Pussy

>>139105591
It was worth it back then. It's also the only reason why women are simply not funny. Men have to be funny to get pussy.

>>139080794
2,1,4,3,5

>>139105319
>muslim women don't suffer from degeneracy.
HAHAHAHAHA HA ! good one

>>139087251
This 100%,friend of mine going through separation right now,go to bar with friends and his wife just happens to be there,she was all over me telling me how I would make a great dad how good I look and she wasn't even drunk.

Then we try to leave and she comes running out jumps into my car and wants me to take her back to my place,seriously wtf your my best friends wife

>>139084773
Which show is this from?

>>139087737
there was some research about how most feminists are into submission, they really want being a housewife and are testing to be put in place i guess. But the society does nothing so they have to go the extra mile.

>>139103646
>>139103679
femanon reporting in

almost spot on, if only men actually opened their minds to this and women opened their heart sto accept this reality

>>139089268
true, eastern yurop never developed the notion of chivalry or esteemed british gentlemen so women are more normal

They're susceptible to social engineering

>>139103679
First part was spot on, second part was meh.

>>139085969
Fuck, they got fucking owned.

>>139080794
Evolution in women has been much slower than that of men, women ape men to compensate.

>>139089917
Women go downhill at 18 you cuck

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>>139080794
Yeah pretty much, go read some shoujo manga. Half of them are rape fantasies.

No, women of any nation are in a way a refleciton of the man of that nation.

If the men of a nation are weak, emasculated, think-skinned, subservient, essentially they becom women, then women take on male characteristics, which does not go well together with their biology.

What you get are aggressive sluts.

>>139107572
They don't... Even less than good christian women because their parents care if they are degenerate or not.

>>139084722
>chivalry
Wait I can't practice horsemanship, and other honorable methods of doing war?

>>139080794
Everyone is naturally without morals you fucking cretin, do you think they're absorbed in the womb? The only thing stopping you from claiming to be a sex addict is no one wants to have sex with you.
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