Garibaldi is an idiot

BALKANIZE ITALY

Garibaldi was a buffoon but Mazzini was alright.

Nice was just because he was born there.

I think you mean he WAS an idiot, afaik he's been dead for more than a century...

He was also a Freemason and an enemy of the Church.

>>139060340
Well, yeah

>>139060219
Didn't Mazzini also support A pan-European state?

>>139060589
I knew he hated the church but I didn't know about the freemasons. Probably explains a lot

You guys should read Il Gattopardo, it's a good historical novel set during the Italian Unification, specifically Garibaldi's invasion of Sicily.

>>139061477
I read the synopsis. It's basically how every Sicilian-American/Canadian/Australian feels

>>139061860
Invaded and your culture trampled upon?

>>139065210
Yep. I once had an Italian teacher form Rome and she literally insulted Sicilian-New Yorkers culture in front of a class full of sicilians and you can only imagine how that went

>>139065470
>>139065210

Correction, she insulted sicilians in front of Sicilian New Yorkers

>>139065659
It's fun how people (especially many uneducated Americans) assume that European countries are culturally homogeneous. Even though racially they (mostly) are, we are closer to being confederations of smaller nations united under a single government. Take the cases of Spain, Germany and Italy, for instance.

you can balkanize any country like that if you scrutinize enough

>>139067219
It's more like the special snowflake difference between them are utterly trivial

>>139057334
Kys jew. Italy is best country. Best language. Best culture. Most intelligent people there are. Nobody picks Italy. Everybody picks Jizzrael

>>139067624
You wouldn't consider the North, South, Midwest and West Coast the same, would you?

Maybe if you've never left your house you would, but those differences aren't exactly small. Across the pond, the differences are more noticeable.

>>139067219
The funny thing is the only people that really understand that are Italian Americans because their parents raised them to say their from their city or Provence. If you ask everyone in Brooklyn where their from, unless they really don't know, they'll say bari, Sicily, Naples, Calabria, milan, etc.

Irish don't realize how different northern Irish are

Ukrainians and even some polish (the stupid ones) call themselves Russians, a long with people from other former soviet republics

Germans call themselves German
Spainiards (except for me) call themselves Spanish

>>139067461
Balkanisons Italy makes a lot more sense than Balkanize get America for example

>>139067678
Italians didn't even speak the sa,w language until the early 1900s when somebody decided everyone should speak the same language so they picked the Tuscan dialect, changed some rules, and called it Italian

>>139068156
The Balkanization of America is immanente, it's only a matter of time.
If Catalonia breaks away that will trigger a whole Balkanization crisis in Europe, which will make its way across the world.

In 10 years southerner secretley hoping the south will rise again won't be afraid to say it out loud

>>139068189
Català, galego o Euskaldun?

>>139068799
Galego y euskaldun

>>139069281
Yo Euskaldun, criado en Galicia kek

>>139069811
Grandmother was born in Basque Country, grandfather was born in Galicia

>>139057334
>tfw grandfather literally speaks sicilian
It sounds really wierd

>>139070620
I speak both languages quite fluently, but I'm still divided internally over what I should consider myself. Should I consider my bloodline or the place I grew up in?

>>139057334
>the only place to see rational cultures will be america
You mean the place that brings together and unites various ethnic groups and cultures. Why are you fucking retarded?

>>139071468
I also have Sicilian and English blood so I really consider myself 4 things just like everyone else in America. My grandparents actually did a good job assimilating so I unfortunately don't speak a word of any of those

Even though I'm American I still like to look into European provincial nationalism

>>139067461
Bar France, Russia and Spain other European nations are way more homogeneous

>>139071242
I have friends that speak Sicilian and until they got to high school Italian class they thought they were speaking Italian

>>139061860
Wogs can't be Australian or Canadian. Our civilizations are Northern European British Dominions. The rest are just visiting

>>139072051
France you can divide into occitania, nice, the French basqu country, Roussillon, Brittany, and Normandy. Also Dunkirk belongs to Flanders

Spain has the Castilian, Andalus, basques, galicians, catalans, cantabrians, leonese, araginese

Russia I'm not sure about but I'm sure you can divide it even more

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>>139072310
>on this map places where Italian is spoken
I'm also familiar with the Greeks and asians in Australia

>>139072430
Nah, ethnic Russians, except those who mixed with subhuman cockholes in the Far East are really really similar. It's nonwhite small regions that are cancer. Must be fucking kicked out: nonwhite, subsidy sucking, inbred, low iq. No diversity and more money is a winning formula

>>139072729
Fantastic map. They are not Northern European or Anglo-Celtic. They have to go back.

>>139072780
Wha about the Cossacks? They're not Russian are they?

Italy got unified basically for the same reason the EU is pushing for a unified Europe: more power against foreign countries. Plus, obviously economic reasons for Piemonte to get the whole Italy for itself. Most of the struggles of the South go way back to the unification, where one-size-fit-all laws, rules and schemes were applied to radically different societies.

I love Italy as a whole. It's a beautiful country for its incredible variety, but the unification meme should be changed with something more federalistic and respectful of the histories and cultures of the Italian regions.

We were and still very proud and different from each other. Changes and (((progress))) find some tough bones here. The reason we are speaking the same language is basically just the television, starting from the 50s. Imagine what must've felt to be in the army during the world wars, not being able to understand half of what the fuck were your comrades saying.

>>139073170
That Russian is drunk there are dozens of cultures in Russia.

Also, Garibaldi was just naive. Read his testament. It's quite heartfelt and bitter, knowing what happened afterwards.

He really just wanted a glorious nation to stand against the widespread jewery.

>>139073373
Good point about the army, but Switzerland gets by pretty fine with 4 different languages being spoken

Anyway I'm sure you could've done like a HRE thing

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>>139072956
So you're gonna deport like half the country?

>>139073735
The unholy not-roman Arch-Duchy was not an agreed on thing. It was the result of hundreds of years of wars and treaties, inbred dumb Emperors and French antics.

>>139073892
Wogs are what? 700k? 1,5-2 mil Asians? Not much cleansing to do. Not your homeland, never will be.

>>139073892
Hopefully.

>>139072729
Yea, Melbourne has the highest concentration of Greeks outside of Athens. Yes, that includes other Greek cities.

Germany is an artificial country too.
Invented by Bismarck.

>>139057334

Every nation is artificial, the only right its the right of conquest

>>139074851
t. Caracalla the Eurosemitic hybrid

>>139074851
In many cases, yes, but in others nations are made up of kindred peoples.

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>>139074851
Ain't that the truth. It's only a matter of time before this happens. Some people will be shocked. Not me.

>>139075344
Russians have the cringiest memes

>>139075926
Almost every country should be smaller than it is. It's small countries like Albania, or Greece that are fine

>>139076541
Agreed.

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>>139057334
XIX century nationalism was a leftist ideology by the spectrum of its times. The "right" were conservative christian monarchists, supporters of rule by divine right and heredity.
The leftists were all sorts of "republic of citizens" ideologues, supported a rule by "the people" whether on an internationalist class basis or on a national identity one.

Plus Garibaldi achieved more than you ever will.

>>139072310
t. Ying Fe

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>>139077311
>Plus Garibaldi achieved more than you ever will.
Blocks your path

>>139072310
t. (((Anglo)))

>>139067678
It's still geographically the Italian peninsula, hence all regional languages are Italian.

>>139079257
The regional languages are different. It became one in the 50s

>>139077311
Numerous reactionary and monarchist elements were rooted in folkish and racialist ideals
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>>139079051
Is he wrong? Meds didn't built Australia, Germanics and Anglos did.